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Will Cardio ruin my efforts with the weights

  • 05-07-2010 12:20pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30


    Hi

    Quick question, I sometimes do weight training in the morning/afternoonish and then at around 19:00 I do cardio and Thai boxing. My question is, will the later cardio reduce effects of the earlier weight trainging session. I was told I should keep them on seperate days by some people but I would have thought 5-6 hours break in between would be enough, any thoughts?

    Thanks
    Dave


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,254 ✭✭✭Esse85


    Depends what your goals are really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    chilli wrote: »
    will the later cardio reduce effects of the earlier weight trainging session.

    Nah, you'll be fine. If anything, having done the weights earlier may reduce the effort you can expend during the later cardio / thai session.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 chilli


    Thanks guys

    My goals basically are to increase muscle mass but not too much, not like a bodybuilder, just build muscle and strength increase my fitness and body conditioning. Also to decrease body fat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,863 ✭✭✭kevpants


    chilli wrote: »
    Thanks guys

    My goals basically are to increase muscle mass but not too much, not like a bodybuilder, just build muscle and strength increase my fitness and body conditioning. Also to decrease body fat.

    At the risk of opening that can of worms again...

    If you're brand new to any type of training you can do what you want to do and get to a certain point of fairly low level muscle mass & strength but if you want constant progression towards a goal of a certain amount of strength & a certain amount of lean-ness then you can't just bust your ass at weights and bust your ass at cardio and wacth them both improve. Not going to happen.

    So you might be able to notice improvements in both for a short time but you will stall and now at least you hopefully know why.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    chilli wrote: »
    Hi

    Quick question, I sometimes do weight training in the morning/afternoonish and then at around 19:00 I do cardio and Thai boxing. My question is, will the later cardio reduce effects of the earlier weight trainging session. I was told I should keep them on seperate days by some people but I would have thought 5-6 hours break in between would be enough, any thoughts?

    Thanks
    Dave

    In my experience, provided your rest and nutrition are spot on it shouldn't be a problem, at least in the short/medium term.

    In the long term issue's may arise when your coming up to competition when you'll have to try fit in the extra training with everyday life, this can be a pretty stressful time for most fighters preparing for competition.

    Your coaching staff should be better placed to provide you with advice.

    if your a casual trainer, and not competitive you should be fine even in the long term.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 881 ✭✭✭ray jay


    kevpants wrote: »
    At the risk of opening that can of worms again...

    If you're brand new to any type of training you can do what you want to do and get to a certain point of fairly low level muscle mass & strength but if you want constant progression towards a goal of a certain amount of strength & a certain amount of lean-ness then you can't just bust your ass at weights and bust your ass at cardio and wacth them both improve. Not going to happen.

    So you might be able to notice improvements in both for a short time but you will stall and now at least you hopefully know why.
    I was wondering about this lately. At the moment I'd like to hit the intermediate level listed here and run 5km in 25 mins - neither of which I'd see as being particularly advanced or incompatible with each other. My worry would be that working on the two at the same time is going to lead to slower progress all around. Would you say that those strength and cardio goals are low enough not to cause interference?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭carwash106


    To lose bodyfat and keep muscle mass at the same time its essential to work all your muscle groups once a week.
    you wont lose muslce mass while doing cardio as long as you use the muscle.

    If you are a beginner then 3 days a week at the gym with moderate sets reps weights workout is good along with your cardio routine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,863 ✭✭✭kevpants


    ray jay wrote: »
    I was wondering about this lately. At the moment I'd like to hit the intermediate level listed here and run 5km in 25 mins - neither of which I'd see as being particularly advanced or incompatible with each other. My worry would be that working on the two at the same time is going to lead to slower progress all around. Would you say that those strength and cardio goals are low enough not to cause interference?

    You're definitely approaching it in the right way in that you have a predetermined weight/time to hit rather than the usual "I want big muscles and no fat". I'd say to try to progress towards both and see if one stalls (it will be the strength that stalls). If it doesn't work I'd say to concentrate on the strength goal and follow up with the 5k time. It would be easier to maintain strength while increasing running time than vice versa. IMO!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,396 ✭✭✭COH


    kevpants wrote: »
    concentrate on the strength goal and follow up with the 5k time. It would be easier to maintain strength while increasing running time than vice versa. IMO!

    This. And not necessarily maintain strength but improve it. I've recently incorporated more (as in from zero to some) cardio into my training. Heavy compound lifts followed my moderate-high intensity cardio. My 5k time has improved from ~29minutes to 24.30 in the past month, during the same time I increased my squat/bench/deadlift.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 chilli


    This is my weekly routine. The weight training I have been doing for a good while and I'm new to the Muay Thai. The weight training is different muscle group each day I train. I also have good nutrition. Before I was doing the weight training just to build myself up but now I'm doing it to supplement the Muay Thai as I want to get stronger, the cardio is to get myself as fit as possible,

    Mon
    12:00 -13:00 – Weight training
    19:00 – 21:00 – Muay Thai

    Tues
    19:00 – 20:00 Cardio/Bag work at home

    Wed
    12:00 – 13:00 – Weight training
    19:00 – 19:20 – 20mins on an exercise bike at home

    Thurs
    19:00 – 21:00 – Muay Thai

    Fri
    12:00 – 13:00 - Weight training
    19:00 – 20:00 - Cardio/Bag work/maybe 20mins on bike at home

    Sat
    Sometimes some bag work or weight training


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