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Galway V Wexford

  • 04-07-2010 10:32pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭


    1. will Galway win
    2. if they don't should Joe Kernan go

    Ans
    1.probably/hopefully
    2.definitely

    toughts


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭teednab-el


    I think Galway should win but I dont think Kernan has done much for this Galway team and there are so far off an All Ireland at the present stage. His coaching style doesnt suit this team IMO. He should definately pack it in if Galway fail to beat Wexford.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 941 ✭✭✭CyberDave


    Galway have actually disimproved under Kernan. He is trying to impose the northern, physical style of play on a team, but it hasn't worked. Galway still depend on Joyce which shouldn't be the case. Meehan was unlucky to go off injured. It would have been interesting to see how it might have turned out, had to stayed uninjured...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭aidan24326


    I fancy we'll beat Wexford, though a fit Meehan will be essential. Hardly matters though, as this team are quarter-final material at best. This Galway team has a few outstanding players, and because of that the team as a whole tends to be overrated. There's a few players on this Galway team who probably wouldn't even make the panel in Kerry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,174 ✭✭✭hardybuck


    First of all, Galway will probably win. Probably.

    Secondly, Kernan is only in his first year, and it isn't like Galway fans to be so bloodthirsty. When he came in he was hailed as a great appointment, and ye guys were actually looking for him to impose a physical side to Galway's game, a lack of which ye have used as an excuse for falling short in recent years. Give him another couple of years, at least then he'd have had a decent chance to impose changes.

    Realistically, Connaught football is pretty poor at the moment, and whoever comes out is unlikely to challenge for an All Ireland anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭mink_man


    i dont think kernan should go if we lose...and i think sligo are being under rated, we ran them close and...and i think sligo will get to the semi finals this year, but yes galway reply on an old player although hes still got it...armstrong so far has been the best performer..


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  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Hopefully we can win this one but it will be no easy task especially if Mike Meehan is out injured, with him and Joyce on the field its a big boost for them team.

    On Kernan I was happy when he was appointed first and he has us playing better than last year, although a lot of that could be down to Joyce upping his performance a lot for the previous few years.

    But for instance the last day against Sligo he moved Clancy in Full forward when he was doing a great job winning breaking ball around midfield he eventually moved him out again and he was winning ball again, I failed to see why he moved him around and would question his reading of the game on doing this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 695 ✭✭✭RealityCheck


    On Kernan I was happy when he was appointed first and he has us playing better than last year, although a lot of that could be down to Joyce upping his performance a lot for the previous few years. .

    He has us playing better than Sammons 2nd year in charge but not the first. Regarding Joyce, to be fair he was playing in a completely different postion at centre forward, where he was able to run the show. He did a very good job there, especially in 2008 when he had a stormer and had we managed to overcome Kerry that year he would have been a certainty for another All Star, to add to the collection. He began to lose the legs last year so they moved him back into the full forward position, his most natural postion. He is having a rebirth there and long may it continue :). I hope the Wexford game is'nt his last. The best Galway player for the last 40 years.
    But for instance the last day against Sligo he moved Clancy in Full forward when he was doing a great job winning breaking ball around midfield he eventually moved him out again and he was winning ball again, I failed to see why he moved him around and would question his reading of the game on doing this.

    Yes, he did the exact same thing against Sligo at Pearse Stadium, had him in corner forward, which is not his best position. He is a hard worker with an awesome workrate and an ability to win breaking ball, in a similar way to Paul Galvin. He is not a scoring forward. I honestly thought the management had mixed him up with Eoin Concannon, as he was playin out the field and Clancy in the inside line. This to me this made no sense as Concannon is a scoring forward, although he does have good work rate. In the first game, Clancy did'nt get a touch of the ball and was substituted.

    Also the fact he made no substitutions the last day bar the two enforced ones is not a good sign as there were players on the bench that could have made an impact and stemmed the tide in the last few minutes. A dogged and strong player like Fiachra Breathnach is what we badly needed at the end of the second half. Other players like Cormac Bane and Darragh Mullaghy could and should have been deployed to freshen things up. Also a recognised midfielder on the bench could have been handy :rolleyes:. Paul Conroy is'nt a midfielder and never will be.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    I think we could beat Wexford but that never means that we do win. Wexford seem to have problems protecting leads (like ourselves) but they have the clinical Matty Forde.

    This is a match that could go either way IMO. It will be interesting to see how the Galway management respond to a defeat. It would have to mean the end of Kernan. It would also mean the end of an era of the 2001 team that followed up with several Connacht Titles.

    I'm definitely going to this match, apparently it's live on RTE.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,307 ✭✭✭cruiserweight


    Michael Meehan has been ruled out of the game on Saturday

    http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/championship/2010/0708/meehanm.html
    Michael Meehan is out of Galway's All-Ireland Senior Football Championship Qualifier against Wexford on Saturday.

    Meehan will miss the 2pm throw-in at Pearse Stadium after suffering an ankle injury in Galway's Connacht semi-final defeat to Sligo.

    'I got the injury scanned on Monday and while it is just a sprain it could take a few weeks,' said Meehan on hoganstand.com.

    'I will definitely not play against Wexford and if we get through I will just have to wait and see if it has recovered for the following week.'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,742 ✭✭✭blackbelt


    Galway to scrape a win here.Sligo are a pretty good team full of grafters.Team of the championship for me at the moment as they work hard for each other.So it is no shame for Galway to have been pipped by them in the fortress Markievicz Park.

    Surprised that all the emphasis is on Galway.If Wexford lose,which I think they will,it could be the end of Jason Ryan's managerial term as Wexford boss.I can see a situation similar to that of the Dublin game where Wexford will have their chances to have the game won but just lack the killer instinct.

    I'm not sure if Mattie Forde is half the player he once was.That nasty back injury has slowed him down quite a bit.

    I'd love to see a Wexford win but I think Galway and Kernan will survive this outing.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    That's a big blow or Galway. I honestly can see a Wexford win here. Our downward spiral is far from over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 807 ✭✭✭Divorce Referendum


    blackbelt wrote: »
    Galway to scrape a win here.Sligo are a pretty good team full of grafters.Team of the championship for me at the moment as they work hard for each other.So it is no shame for Galway to have been pipped by them in the fortress Markievicz Park.

    Surprised that all the emphasis is on Galway.If Wexford lose,which I think they will,it could be the end of Jason Ryan's managerial term as Wexford boss.I can see a situation similar to that of the Dublin game where Wexford will have their chances to have the game won but just lack the killer instinct.

    I'm not sure if Mattie Forde is half the player he once was.That nasty back injury has slowed him down quite a bit.

    I'd love to see a Wexford win but I think Galway and Kernan will survive this outing.

    This is Jason Ryan's final year anyway so he will step down no matter what happens. Mattie Forde was injured in 2008 as well and seemed to do ok ;). He can score points from distance which is an advantage with his loss of pace. Galway have home advantage but the teams are pretty evenly matched. I would go for a Wexford win by a point or two.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭aidan24326


    The nearer this gets the less confident I'm feeling. With Meehan definitely out, Nicky Joyce still injured and Finian Hanley a doubt aswell, we could be in trouble. Padraig Joyce is the only reason we're even competitive at the moment. This is not a good Galway team and it's there for the taking for Wexford if they're good enough. As things stand though, I don't think Wexford are anything to write home about either, so I think we'll probably just about survive this game. All we can hope for then is a reasonably kind draw in the next round and a chance for Meehan to shake off his injuries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,307 ✭✭✭cruiserweight


    Wexford have the same line out as for the London game

    Wexford Team: 1. Anthony Masterson, 2. Joey Wadding, 3. Graeme Molloy, 4. Brian Malone, 5. Adrian Flynn, 6. David Murphy, 7. Aindreas Doyle, 8. Eric Bradley, 9. Daithí Waters, 10. Colm Morris, 11. Redmond Barry, 12. Shane Roche, 13. Ciarán Lyng, 14. Matty Forde, 15. PJ Banville

    Subs: Jason Russell, Damien Carter, David Walsh, Conor Carty, Kieran Kennedy, Michael Furlong, David Fogarty, Brendan Doyle, Ben Brosnan, Collie Byrne, Ciarán Deely, Pat Naughter, Paddy Byrne, Dylan Kehoe, Stephen Banville


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭aidan24326


    Galway team for Saturday.

    Galway (SFC v Wexford) -
    1.Adrian Faherty,
    2.David Reilly, 3.Finian Hanley 4.Alan Burke,
    5.Garreth Bradshaw, 6.Kieran Fitzgerald, 7.Garry O'Donnell,
    8.Niall Coleman, 9.Joe Bergin,
    10.Gary Sice, 11.Fiachra Breathnach, 12.Matthew Clancy,
    13.Owen Concannon, 14.Padraic Joyce, 15.Sean Armstrong.

    Diarmuid Blake dropped. Michael Meehan and Nicky Joyce both injured. Blake being dropped doesn't surprise me too much, as he's weak defensively. I don't really like the look of the half forward line though, all 3 are grafters so where are the scores going to come from? Alot of reliance on Joyce again I'm afraid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    He has been poor for a while. Only dropped because he handed a goal to Kelly on a golden platter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,506 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Blake carrying an injury from what I hear. Darren Mullahy must be wondering what he has to do to get a start; though not the worst the last day, O Donnell must be wondering he has to do to get dropped. Alan Burke surely on his last chance and Bergin near enough there too. At least if they line out that way and keep their shape, the scoring forwards are close to goal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭aidan24326


    He has been poor for a while. Only dropped because he handed a goal to Kelly on a golden platter.

    In fairness the goal was completely Bradshaw's fault.

    MfMan wrote: »
    Blake carrying an injury from what I hear. Darren Mullahy must be wondering what he has to do to get a start; though not the worst the last day, O Donnell must be wondering he has to do to get dropped. Alan Burke surely on his last chance and Bergin near enough there too. At least if they line out that way and keep their shape, the scoring forwards are close to goal.

    Mullaghy hasn't been getting a look in. Personally I think he's a better player than Gary O'Donnell, but Kernan obviously doesn't.

    I agree with you about Bergin. He's living on reputation at this stage and it's a reputation he scarcely deserves. When was the last time he had a really good game for Galway? As one of the more experienced senior figures in the team you'd be looking to someone like him to take a game by the scruff of the neck and be a leader, but he rarely does that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    MfMan wrote: »
    Blake carrying an injury from what I hear. Darren Mullahy must be wondering what he has to do to get a start; though not the worst the last day, O Donnell must be wondering he has to do to get dropped. Alan Burke surely on his last chance and Bergin near enough there too. At least if they line out that way and keep their shape, the scoring forwards are close to goal.

    I agree completely. The consensus seems to be that Mullahy is only good in the League which is completely unfair.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 695 ✭✭✭RealityCheck


    He's obviously trying to shake things up a bit. Dropping Blake is a good decision as I could see Redmond Barry destroying Blake, as he has absolutely no pace. As for whether Fitz is the man for the job, I suspect not. I would have gone with Bradshaw in that position or even Damien Burke if he was fit, as he generally lines out for Corofin in that position. Mullaghy is has been rather injury prone the last few years and it probably has effected his form. Was a good player for a good few years but was never really given a chance to shine at this level. Was impressed with Reilly when he came on the last day. Hope he keeps up that form. Although all three full backs are good players in their own right, I would be worried about the lack of a good man marker, someone to keep the shackles of Matty Forde.
    Fiachra Breathnach is a player I was surprised saw no action on Saturday, but unsure whether moving Armstrong out of Centre forward is a good idea. We have three grafters at half forward, that will invariably see them acting as defensive players, leaving 3 forwards inside. This could be quite similar to the way Dublin lined out against them, when Wexford had a storming first half.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭megadodge


    I agree with the moving of Armstrong into the full forward line. I think he's far more dangerous the nearer to goal, as he's a genuine finisher. At centre forward he was often just too deep to do any serious damage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 695 ✭✭✭RealityCheck


    megadodge wrote: »
    I agree with the moving of Armstrong into the full forward line. I think he's far more dangerous the nearer to goal, as he's a genuine finisher. At centre forward he was often just too deep to do any serious damage.


    He does have creative spark though, something we won't have that much of out the field. Breathnach is great at donkey work but is'nt the most creative. However, Armstrong tends to be a headless chicken at times and does'nt hold the centre forward position all that well. If we can supply the full forward line and assuming he lines out there, he could score a goal or two.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    He does have creative spark though, something we won't have that much of out the field. Breathnach is great at donkey work but is'nt the most creative. However, Armstrong tends to be a headless chicken at times and does'nt hold the centre forward position all that well. If we can supply the full forward line and assuming he lines out there, he could score a goal or two.

    If Armstrong can play well again (he had a good game last week) then we have a great chance of winning. We need so much more than just a Padraic Joyce individual performance to get through the qualifiers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,055 ✭✭✭WallyGUFC


    Not surprised about Blake but I am surprised about Fitz centre-back. Would have dropped O' Donnell and swao the Burkes. Big games needed from Bergin in particular, but also Armstrong and obviously Joyce. Not too confident, but we should have enough to get past this. Gaillimh Abu!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Bad weather for the match. If you're going for the terraces bring an umbrella!


    /Mothering


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭DH2K9


    As much as I hate the way Joe Kernan coaches his teams, you are not going to get instant sucess when a new manager comes in. A good manager needs a good 3 years to implement his way of coaching.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Pretty horrific weather. Doubt it will be called off at this stage though. Reminds me of the Sligo match years ago that was postponed because of a massively water-logged pitch.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    My friend was let in for free. Less than 800 expected in attendance.


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,346 ✭✭✭wixfjord


    What a difference the rain makes. Both for crowd and type of football. Really really doesnt suit Wexford at all.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 5,346 ✭✭✭wixfjord


    Anyone see the hands of Forde with that offload, unreal!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,307 ✭✭✭cruiserweight


    Half time score is Galway 0-6 Wexford 0-5

    How is it looking on the TV? I am listening on the radio, sounds like Wexford have missed a few frees


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,028 ✭✭✭TheMilkyPirate


    Good game to watch except for the last ten minutes. Wexford have to stop handpassing the ball around the full back line they'll look like right dopes when joyce steals it and sticks it in the net.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,307 ✭✭✭cruiserweight


    baraca wrote: »
    Wexford have to stop handpassing the ball around the full back line they'll look like right dopes when joyce steals it and sticks it in the net.

    That has been their style for the last while, can be heart in mouth at times


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Galway dominated the first ten minutes. Fairly even until the 20th minute when Wexford came into the match.

    Galway are having discipline issues ATM. A lot of stupid fouls.


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,346 ✭✭✭wixfjord


    Bull**** mcstay! Theres no way its as clear as that!

    Good man lyngy! COME ON!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,307 ✭✭✭cruiserweight


    wixfjord wrote: »
    Bull**** mcstay! Theres no way its as clear as that!

    Good man lyngy! COME ON!

    Leave the room for a minute, I come back and Wexford are winning, what happened?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭Royal Seahawk


    Whats the yellow writing on the top of the back of the Galway jersey?


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,346 ✭✭✭wixfjord


    Leave the room for a minute, I come back and Wexford are winning, what happened?

    Wexford pen, foul on Matty I think, Galway man tackled from behind just as he was about to strike for goal. 50/50 call but Mcstay seems to think different!

    Lyngy buries the penalty. Two bad wides from Wexford since.


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,346 ✭✭✭wixfjord


    Wexfords lack of street smarts showing again, and fitness is an issue with the type of game we play.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Wexford have been wasteful today. A lot of wides in front of goal


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  • Site Banned Posts: 5,346 ✭✭✭wixfjord


    Tired kicking from Wexford.

    Youd have to question tactic of playing Forde out the field in the first half.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,307 ✭✭✭cruiserweight


    Come on Wexford


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,346 ✭✭✭wixfjord


    YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭Browney7


    Congratulations Wexford.

    A sad day for Galway football. Kernan will surely get the boot after this.


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,346 ✭✭✭wixfjord


    At Boolavogue as the sun was setting...Come on Cruiser!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭dartsfan


    Browney7 wrote: »
    Congratulations Wexford.

    A sad day for Galway football. Kernan will surely get the boot after this.

    Doubtful, he's a 3 year term, doubt it's up for review.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Referee helped Wexford out. Ye deserved a win though for the amount of wides ye had.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭Randyleprechaun


    Said it before on another thread but here goes.

    Still only one footballer in Galway and that's Padraic Joyce. God help us when he hangs up the boots.

    Some decisions against them but it shouldn't have even come down to that.
    The rest of the players needeed to step up to the plate.

    I feel sorry for Joyce, tried hard.....no help!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭Randyleprechaun


    KERNAN OUT


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,346 ✭✭✭wixfjord


    Referee helped Wexford out. Ye deserved a win though for the amount of wides ye had.

    He did indeed, though still maintain the penalty was 50/50, but the tackle on Masterson, and two handpass frees at very crucial stages, as well as a few tough tackles from Wexford all went our way.


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