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BARKING DOG

  • 04-07-2010 12:34pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 366 ✭✭


    Just looking for a bit of advice. My nextdoor neighbours dog is barking all the time and Its driving me bonkers.
    I said it to him several times to no avail.
    The dog does be ok when its just myself and the Mrs in the back garden but if someone else comes into the garden and the dog doesnt recognice the voice he goes mental and he is very loud.Labradour.

    I just wondering if anybody has any advice because I am going out the council this week to get Form for offical complaint.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,534 ✭✭✭morganafay


    I don't really think there's anything the owner can do if the dog is only barking at strangers. I'd think most dogs would do that. It's annoying I know, but he's not barking all day and night right? Just when someone strange is in your garden?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,356 ✭✭✭NeVeR


    try this..
    http://cgi.ebay.ie/PETSAFE-ANTI-BARK-FREE-STOP-PUPPY-NO-DOG-BARKING-AID-/250607773391?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Pet_Supplies_Dogs&hash=item3a596326cf

    I guy i work with got one for the same reason as you. But i wouldnt leave it on all the time.. Dogs need to bark every now and again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,033 ✭✭✭thebullkf


    Just looking for a bit of advice. My nextdoor neighbours dog is barking all the time and Its driving me bonkers.
    I said it to him several times to no avail.
    The dog does be ok when its just myself and the Mrs in the back garden but if someone else comes into the garden and the dog doesnt recognice the voice he goes mental and he is very loud.Labradour.

    I just wondering if anybody has any advice because I am going out the council this week to get Form for offical complaint.



    give over ffs.



    get to know the dog-give him treats.




    he's a dog ffs¬!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,356 ✭✭✭NeVeR


    thebullkf wrote: »
    give over ffs.



    get to know the dog-give him treats.




    he's a dog ffs¬!!

    This is a better Idea !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 366 ✭✭Jake The Fat Ma


    I work nights he barks all day:(

    http://www.environ.ie/en/LocalGovernment/DogControl/#What can I do about barking dogs?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 53 ✭✭nukinfuts


    do you have a good relationship with the neighbours? Is your formal complaint going to cause unnecessary agro? If it were me, I'd be annoyed having my sleep interrupted constantly - however I love animals, and if I thought my formal complaint meant that dog ends up going to a pound or something, I couldn't do it. I suggest investing in earplugs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    nukinfuts wrote: »
    do you have a good relationship with the neighbours? Is your formal complaint going to cause unnecessary agro? If it were me, I'd be annoyed having my sleep interrupted constantly - however I love animals, and if I thought my formal complaint meant that dog ends up going to a pound or something, I couldn't do it. I suggest investing in earplugs

    A dog should not bark continually.

    is it being left all day alone in its garden?

    Ear plugs do not always block out close dog barks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 53 ✭✭nukinfuts


    Graces7 wrote: »
    Ear plugs do not always block out close dog barks.
    True - its merely a suggestion


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    nukinfuts wrote: »
    True - its merely a suggestion

    I know; sleep disturbance is dreadful though. I wear earplugs much of the day because of loud noise here. They are great for most noise. My collie still can be heard though.. Which is as it should be of course.

    Ear plugs will dim the noise considerably


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,033 ✭✭✭thebullkf


    or failing the above^^




    Jack Daniels;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,419 ✭✭✭tommy21


    Just looking for a bit of advice. My nextdoor neighbours dog is barking all the time and Its driving me bonkers.
    I said it to him several times to no avail.
    The dog does be ok when its just myself and the Mrs in the back garden but if someone else comes into the garden and the dog doesnt recognice the voice he goes mental and he is very loud.Labradour.

    I just wondering if anybody has any advice because I am going out the council this week to get Form for offical complaint.

    Don't listen to those on here saying "it's only a dog ... get to know him" etc. I put up with this for years with my neighbour's two alsatians, and you'll hate to hear it but there is not much you can do, particularly if you are not on good terms with your neighbours. You need to let them know in advance that you are making a complaint as far as I know in writing. The next stop is the council. We knew the city dog warden of the time and he called to the house as a favour. But even if that happens, as long as the dog is not in distress, obviously injured, dangerous or otherwise out of sorts, there is nothing that really can be done. There does not appear to be any legislation with teeth in it, and I've never heard of a dog been put down for barking unless it was dangerous (nor should it be - either the owner should be forced to look after it properly or the dog rehomed to someone who actually cares).

    I had some success by firing dog biscuits etc. over the wall (another neighbour's house was between us) when I was really sleep deprived. I even offered to walk the dogs (which my bitter old neighbour declined). I tried ear plugs that would never totally block out the sound, I would put on background music sometimes also, but always I could hear that grating bark in the distance. The worst thing is that you really become sensitised to it, so what might not be so annoying to one person is hell to you when you're on your 5th night of disturbed sleep. Your options are to try butter the neighbour up and get him to do something about it (it is possible that the dogs are not being walked enough), get on to the warden and hope that scares him, or wait for one dog to pass away, followed by the owner in quick succession and sale of the house - as what happened to me :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,356 ✭✭✭NeVeR


    NeVeR wrote: »
    try this..
    http://cgi.ebay.ie/PETSAFE-ANTI-BARK-FREE-STOP-PUPPY-NO-DOG-BARKING-AID-/250607773391?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Pet_Supplies_Dogs&hash=item3a596326cf

    I guy i work with got one for the same reason as you. But i wouldnt leave it on all the time.. Dogs need to bark every now and again.

    Did you see this ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,033 ✭✭✭thebullkf


    tommy21 wrote: »
    Don't listen to those on here saying "it's only a dog ... get to know him" etc. I put up with this for years with my neighbour's two alsatians, and you'll hate to hear it but there is not much you can do, particularly if you are not on good terms with your neighbours. You need to let them know in advance that you are making a complaint as far as I know in writing. The next stop is the council. We knew the city dog warden of the time and he called to the house as a favour. But even if that happens, as long as the dog is not in distress, obviously injured, dangerous or otherwise out of sorts, there is nothing that really can be done. There does not appear to be any legislation with teeth in it, and I've never heard of a dog been put down for barking unless it was dangerous (nor should it be - either the owner should be forced to look after it properly or the dog rehomed to someone who actually cares).

    I had some success by firing dog biscuits etc. over the wall (another neighbour's house was between us) when I was really sleep deprived. I even offered to walk the dogs (which my bitter old neighbour declined). I tried ear plugs that would never totally block out the sound, I would put on background music sometimes also, but always I could hear that grating bark in the distance. The worst thing is that you really become sensitised to it, so what might not be so annoying to one person is hell to you when you're on your 5th night of disturbed sleep. Your options are to try butter the neighbour up and get him to do something about it (it is possible that the dogs are not being walked enough), get on to the warden and hope that scares him, or wait for one dog to pass away, followed by the owner in quick succession and sale of the house - as what happened to me :)



    yeah don't listen to us.........use your influence and contacts to get a dog warden to visit an old person:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

    this gangsters advice is ultimately wait till the dog DIES!!!!



    FFS.


    NUFF SAID.

    *sure kill them yourself:rolleyes::rolleyes:


















    *obviously not serious


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,534 ✭✭✭morganafay


    If the dog is actually barking all day, then I do see why you're annoyed. The dog might be neglected and just left on its own all day and never walked, and if so then your neighbour is in the wrong there. But it might just be one of those dogs that always barks . . . I know you shouldn't have to put up with it, but I don't really know what to do either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,974 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    He said it only barked when he had a guest out his back garden. I am sure the dog is just being a good guard dog but this can be annoying when its not your dog. Try what NeVeR said, should work.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,419 ✭✭✭tommy21


    thebullkf wrote: »
    yeah don't listen to us.........use your influence and contacts to get a dog warden to visit an old person:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

    this gangsters advice is ultimately wait till the dog DIES!!!!



    FFS.


    NUFF SAID.

    *sure kill them yourself:rolleyes::rolleyes:


















    *obviously not serious

    My comments had nothing to do with the elderly bar the fact that the person was elderly! They would have gotten the same response if they had been in their teens. I don't think you understand the situation because you've obviously never experienced the annoyance that comes with it. I'm sure jack daniels and dog treats will put the quickest end to the dog/owner ;P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    tommy21 wrote: »
    Don't listen to those on here saying "it's only a dog ... get to know him" etc. I put up with this for years with my neighbour's two alsatians, and you'll hate to hear it but there is not much you can do, particularly if you are not on good terms with your neighbours. You need to let them know in advance that you are making a complaint as far as I know in writing. The next stop is the council. We knew the city dog warden of the time and he called to the house as a favour. But even if that happens, as long as the dog is not in distress, obviously injured, dangerous or otherwise out of sorts, there is nothing that really can be done. There does not appear to be any legislation with teeth in it, and I've never heard of a dog been put down for barking unless it was dangerous (nor should it be - either the owner should be forced to look after it properly or the dog rehomed to someone who actually cares).

    I had some success by firing dog biscuits etc. over the wall (another neighbour's house was between us) when I was really sleep deprived. I even offered to walk the dogs (which my bitter old neighbour declined). I tried ear plugs that would never totally block out the sound, I would put on background music sometimes also, but always I could hear that grating bark in the distance. The worst thing is that you really become sensitised to it, so what might not be so annoying to one person is hell to you when you're on your 5th night of disturbed sleep. Your options are to try butter the neighbour up and get him to do something about it (it is possible that the dogs are not being walked enough), get on to the warden and hope that scares him, or wait for one dog to pass away, followed by the owner in quick succession and sale of the house - as what happened to me :)

    +1.

    As a victim of two constantly barking dogs I can identify with a lot of that post.

    I've two neighbours who've got a Westie each, and the barking is constant. Day & night, and its driving me wild.

    Calling around to them has been a total waste of time, both are out working all day and simply don't care about the dogs - so the dogs bark, and bark, and bark.

    In the last few weeks I've been perscribed sleeping tablets from the doctor, and he reluactantly gave me those only after I told him I was having a few glasses of brandy to get to sleep.

    Now I sleep with the TV on, and sometimes a radio too - but I can still hear the barking.

    OP, best of luck. If you've got money employ the services of a solicitor and feck the neighbours opinion of you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    +1.

    As a victim of two constantly barking dogs I can identify with a lot of that post.

    I've two neighbours who've got a Westie each, and the barking is constant. Day & night, and its driving me wild.

    Calling around to them has been a total waste of time, both are out working all day and simply don't care about the dogs - so the dogs bark, and bark, and bark.

    In the last few weeks I've been perscribed sleeping tablets from the doctor, and he reluactantly gave me those only after I told him I was having a few glasses of brandy to get to sleep.

    Now I sleep with the TV on, and sometimes a radio too - but I can still hear the barking.

    OP, best of luck. If you've got money employ the services of a solicitor and feck the neighbours opinion of you.

    A dreadful situation. I have been blessed in that the two times a near neighbours's dogs have done this, a word of concern for them has sorted it out, In one case, they were both deaf and had double glazing and had no idea the dog was barking. They were so upset and moved her. Much the same the second time; I asked another man if they were ok as the dog as barking nonstop and i was going to call the Gardai to check on him..

    Why do these people have dogs and leave them like that?

    There are some new better ear plugs out..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,658 ✭✭✭✭The Sweeper


    thebullkf wrote: »
    give over ffs.



    get to know the dog-give him treats.




    he's a dog ffs¬!!


    Happy dogs do not bark all day and all night.

    Happy dogs do not bark constantly.

    Happy dogs rarely bark, unless startled, or excited.

    Bored, anxious, frustrated, under-exercised, nervous, unhappy dogs bark at anything and everything, day and night.

    In Australia, a dog is considered to be exhibiting nuisance behaviour if you cannot walk on the public footpath passing the gate of the garden or the fence or wall of the garden without being barked and snarled at from inside the yard, even if the dog is contained and cannot get to you. I'd be interested to see if the irish and english dog laws have a similar clause.

    Barking all day is not normal, and it's not because 'it's just a dog'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭rebel10


    Taken from Citizens advice website:
    Excessive dog barking that causes a nuisance is an offence. Your District Court can make an order requiring the reduction of excessive barking by a dog, can limit the number of dogs that can be kept on a premises or can direct that a dog be delivered to a dog warden as an unwanted dog.
    You can make a complaint about excessive barking to the District Court under Noise Regulations. Before you do this, you must first inform the dog owner of your intention by completing a special form under the Control of Dogs Act, 1986. These forms are available from your local authority.

    I have 2 small dogs. The only time they go out in the garden is just to do their business. Would love to let them out more but one of my neighbours hates dogs. They don't bark at my neighbours unless someone strange to them is in their garden. I take them in once this happens.

    The neighbour is an a**hole. He has never complained to us about them but we know from actions in the past he dislikes them. Once he was having a party early in the evening, my dog went out and barked at all the noise next door. I went out to bring him in, when i see the neighbour with a hose out over my fence pointing at the dog, soaking him!!:eek::( The minute he saw me he pulled it in and started laughing amongst his guests. I was tempted to say something to him then and there but didn't want to embarress him in front of his guests, although they are just as bad having watching this happen and doing nothing, then i assume they are as bad as him.
    I am half tempted to call around to complain about his child who screams in the garden every morning keeping me awake.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,713 ✭✭✭lrushe


    OP you have my sympathies, I can totally relate to what you are going through living next to two constantly barkning dogs. I have 3 dogs and would be mortified if they were disturbing my neighbours but some people don't care:mad: My neighbour thinks that because its the day time that they bark most that its ok but not everyone works a 9-5 job. I work shift work so some days I would be in bed at 4pm. The only solution I had was to move my bedroom into the front of my house and I got double glazed windows, talking to the neighbours was useless. Best of luck, hope you have some success soon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭mymo


    Happy dogs do not bark all day and all night.

    Happy dogs do not bark constantly.

    Happy dogs rarely bark, unless startled, or excited.

    Bored, anxious, frustrated, under-exercised, nervous, unhappy dogs bark at anything and everything, day and night.

    ^^^This is so true.
    I have dogs myself, the first thing I did when I got them was talk to my neighbours and ask if they barked when I go out. Thankfully the don't but that's 'cos I walk them 4 times a day, never leave them long, keep them inside with TV or radio on and leave stuffed kongs to keep them busy.
    A dog a few doors down barks all day on and off and in the summer it often goes on until midnight, theres many nights I have fallen asleep with the ipod on(I get up at 6 or 7 so early to bed). I have never seen this dog, its always in the yard.

    If the neighbour isn't approachable or isn't doing anything I would go ahead
    with the notice and inform the council, dog barking is a serious problem and should be treated as such.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭Orla K


    I heard something on the news about a new law or something on noise, which will include dogs barking. Where the gardai will be able to actually do something and i did hear something about fines, but this of course is in the early stages.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭cocker5


    Steve30x wrote: »
    I wouldnt have my dog disturbing my neighbours. My dog was barking like crazy the other night and after a little while I went out to quieten him down. The next day I went to appologise for his behaviour to my neighbours.

    I am trying to rehome him with about five weeks now because I dont have room for him anymore since I moved house six weeks ago , Ive tried WSPCA , PAWS and advertised him on a few websites but nobodys interested.

    Can't believe what i am reading... another irresponsible dog owner... :confused:

    A DOG IS FOR LIFE!!!!!!!!!

    Pounds and rescue centres are BURSTING with dogs / cats dumped by neglectful owners.... how can you even think of giving your dog away??

    Cannot understand this mentalility!!! :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭stupidusername


    cocker5 wrote: »
    Can't believe what i am reading... another irresponsible dog owner... :confused:

    A DOG IS FOR LIFE!!!!!!!!!

    Pounds and rescue centres are BURSTING with dogs / cats dumped by neglectful owners.... how can you even think of giving your dog away??

    Cannot understand this mentalility!!! :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

    As much as I agree with this mentality being way off, at least she hasn't just dumped the dog, like so many seem to be doing also..... this is just horrible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭cocker5


    As much as I agree with this mentality being way off, at least she hasn't just dumped the dog, like so many seem to be doing also..... this is just horrible.

    give him a few weeks of no joy re-homing and im sure he will resort to this...

    cannot believe how humans can be at times!! :mad::mad::mad::mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    I mean't to get back to this thread.

    I've found a cure, at least in the short term. And by chance too!.

    During the hot weather I had a fan blow around the room, and as mad as this sounds, the gentle whirl & breeze from it is drowning out the barking!..

    I've been around to the neighbours again since the last time I posted here, and I swear to good God at this stage I feel like choking both the owner's and the damned dog.

    Someone here posted about becoming sensatised to the sound, and its true.

    Its gotten to the stage now when there's been a break in it barking, and it starts again its like I experience a mini panic attack!.

    If anyone here has a barking dog, please for the love of God don't think for a moment your neighbours don't notice it - or curse you from a height.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭cocker5


    as a dog owner myself... i have to say i CANNOT stand dogs barking all day and all night...

    Our guy only barks for the post man.... other than that he is as quiet as a mouse... he wasnt always like that... he was a whingy pup.. but we trained him...

    He sleeps in the kitchen so no barking at night and has a dog walker during the day and other days im home with him etc... all our neighbours have young children and the last thing we would want is our dog scremaing all day...

    last thing i would want is a dog beside me barking all day /all night.... very unfair on neighbours.. so i do feel very sorry for anyone who has to listen to that all day...

    I do agree with one poster... most dogs who bark all day are bored and stuck in a garden 9 hours a day...., its not really their fault.. but its the owners responsibility to make sure you can live along side your neighbours without distrubing them etc... :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭cocker5


    Steve30x wrote: »
    Ive moved into a smaller house. Can you not read. Get mad all you want. Also I am not female. This sort of attitude makes me just as mad as me trying to rehome the dog makes you.



    Yes because I should be classed the same as everybody else that dumps the dog. No I will not dump the dog. I will continue to try and rehome him.

    I know you guys are dog lovers but for the love of god please back off with the attitude.

    No 1
    I can read

    No 2
    Why would moving to a smaller house have any baring on your decision to re-home your dog?? a dog doesnt require alot of room, they can be excercised and live happily without having a huge house and garden.

    No 3
    When moving house why would you even consider a home than you felt wouldnt be suitable for your family..... that includes your dog.

    No 4
    its not attitude, its the truth...

    No 5
    you have very little hope of re-homing your dog, as i already stated rescues centres are FULL to the brim with dogs /cats in the same situation....


    Maybe next time you should think long and hard before getting a dog.... :confused: a dog doesent understand why you are giving him away and they feel abandoned / depressed... as your are there owners... and thats supposed to last for life, not for as long as you have time, room or space!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭cocker5


    Steve30x wrote: »
    Its a council house where I had no choice where to go.

    He gets excersized twice a day

    Yes it is an attitude.

    Rehoming a dog doesnt neccesarily mean giving him to a rescue centre. In my book rehoming him means getting him a HOME in a house

    Also I have a cavalier king charles that is with me until the day she dies.

    Right so...

    let me get this straight... your in a house?? so you have a garden?
    even if small??

    and your keeping one dog and not the other???

    thats even worse than i thought :mad::mad::mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,534 ✭✭✭morganafay


    Whatever your opinion Cocker, you don't know Steve, so you don't really have the right to judge him and say he is irresponsible. You don't know that, he has said he doesn't think he has the space to properly look after the dog, and is trying to rehome it. Sometimes people can't keep a pet, doesn't make them irresponsible neccessarily.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭cocker5


    At the end of the day you have to live with your decision...

    You have a house and a garden...

    and your still trying to off load your dog... sorry one of your dogs... the other one get to stay

    ridiclous excuse....

    Cannot understand your mentalility :confused::confused::confused:

    next time think LONG and HARD before getting another dog...
    just to prevent another dog being giving away by his/her famliy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭cocker5


    morganafay wrote: »
    Whatever your opinion Cocker, you don't know Steve, so you don't really have the right to judge him and say he is irresponsible. You don't know that, he has said he doesn't think he has the space to properly look after the dog, and is trying to rehome it. Sometimes people can't keep a pet, doesn't make them irresponsible neccessarily.

    I understand where you are coming from, but thats my opinion, keeping one dog and not the other... selective in my opinion.... its his decision....

    Hopefully he will think twice before getting another dog....
    my only concern is for the animal (s)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭cocker5


    Steve30x wrote: »
    I dont like arguing with anybody , but your selective reading is annoying at most.


    you can try and justify your decision all day...and pick up on everything.... and try and be smart...........it doesnt change the facts... im not interested anymore.... its your decision...

    i just feel for the dog and what he/she will go through... :eek:

    I'm just glad my dog will be with me for life.

    AGAIN please think long and hard before getting another dog... :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭cocker5


    Steve30x wrote: »
    I dont like arguing with anybody , but your selective reading is annoying at most.



    Its a small house with a tiny garden and theres absolutely no room here. Ive lived in an appartment that was just two foot shorter than this house. Im not like most of you on here with a big house , but you just dont understand because you dont have a house this small.

    Also did you even read the posts I posted links to?

    Sorry just had to point out...

    you dont know anything about me or my house.... how big it is or how small.... or anything for that matter. you seem to have the opinion that people on here have big houses etc??
    not sure where you get that from.

    I can only speak for MYSELF and say my dog is part of my family and will be with me for life.

    I am sorry your house is small.... and its obsiviously upsetting you... but please dont assume that we all have big houses and gardens.... :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84 ✭✭Pudding11


    Not sure I understand the attitude against the person trying to rehome the dog?! If they have had to move to a smaller place, surely its more cruel to have a big dog forced to live in a small space (and with another dog!) than it is to rehome it to somewhere it will have plenty of room to live and exercise. I sincerely doubt its an easy decision and from the sounds of it, they are doing their best to find a new home that will be better for it than where it is now. when it comes to council houses, you dont always have a choice in where you are moved to and their garden/outdoor space isnt always big enough for 1 dog let alone two.
    You might not agree with it but it doesnt make them a terrible animal owner!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭cocker5


    Steve30x wrote: »
    Fair enough. But I only take advice from people who dont jump at me like you just did. Ive been given that advice by nicer people on here who I will listen to though.

    PS> your on my ignore list.

    im really upset :rolleyes: ignore people if you dont agree with them very mature!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 557 ✭✭✭Steve30x


    cocker5 wrote: »
    Sorry just had to point out...

    you dont know anything about me or my house.... how big it is or how small.... or anything for that matter. you seem to have the opinion that people on here have big houses etc??
    not sure where you get that from.

    I can only speak for MYSELF and say my dog is part of my family and will be with me for life.

    I am sorry your house is small.... and its obsiviously upsetting you... but please dont assume that we all have big houses and gardens.... :confused:

    You dont know anything about me or my house either but you made an assumption about me. Yes it does upset me a bit that I am in such a tiny house and the fact that there isnt enough room here for him , but its a lot better than what a lot of people in third world countries have. Also my Cavalier is part of my family also and she is with me until the day she dies or until the day I die. Whichever happens first. Sorry for assuming you guys have big houses but I can almost guarantee what ever your house is its bigger than this house.
    cocker5 wrote: »
    im really upset :rolleyes: ignore people if you dont agree with them very mature!

    No I had you on ignore because you are rude.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭cocker5


    Pudding11 wrote: »
    Not sure I understand the attitude against the person trying to rehome the dog?! If they have had to move to a smaller place, surely its more cruel to have a big dog forced to live in a small space (and with another dog!) than it is to rehome it to somewhere it will have plenty of room to live and exercise. I sincerely doubt its an easy decision and from the sounds of it, they are doing their best to find a new home that will be better for it than where it is now. when it comes to council houses, you dont always have a choice in where you are moved to and their garden/outdoor space isnt always big enough for 1 dog let alone two.
    You might not agree with it but it doesnt make them a terrible animal owner!

    Agreed... its just at the mo there seems to be sooooooo many animals owners re-homing their dogs.... they cant all be legitimate reasons...

    I work for a rescue centre as you can imagine its very rewarding and upsetting the amounts of dogs i see day in day out... getting droopped in the the smallest reason (not taking about steve here) after awhile it REALLY gets you down.... so for me, after years of seeing it im more concerned about the animal than upsetting the owner....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84 ✭✭Pudding11


    Cocker 5, I cant imagine how hard that job must be sometimes. nothing sickens me more than people who just treat animals cruelly or could just dump them for reasons that cannot be justified. I dont know Steve30x obviously but it sounds like (and I would hope) he has a good reason for needing to rehome one of his dogs and I hope he finds it a good home soon. I adopted two cats last year (as much as i would love a dog I dont have the room for even 1!) and it was so heartbreaking not to be able to bring them all home!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭cocker5


    Pudding11 wrote: »
    Cocker 5, I cant imagine how hard that job must be sometimes. nothing sickens me more than people who just treat animals cruelly or could just dump them for reasons that cannot be justified. I dont know Steve30x obviously but it sounds like (and I would hope) he has a good reason for needing to rehome one of his dogs and I hope he finds it a good home soon. I adopted two cats last year (as much as i would love a dog I dont have the room for even 1!) and it was so heartbreaking not to be able to bring them all home!

    We have had vets calling us to see if we could take some cats as their owners didnt want them anymore and wanted them put to sleep... perfecrly healthy cats!!! :eek::eek:

    so the vet contacted us to see if we could take them in.... we have had soooo many cases like this i cannot even explain.... so i suppose in my case i just cant take anymore ... and it makes my blood boil..... so i am more sympathic with the animals than the owners... its the nature of where i work... you can get defensive and protective over animals....

    I have one dog at the mo... would love another but i just couldnt stop at two... and it would break my heart to have to choose :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84 ✭✭Pudding11


    I really admire you being able to do that kind of work at all, I dont think I would be emotionally able for it . Just the thought of putting down a healthy animal because you dont want it any more makes me so very angry. I really wish there was some way people could be screened before owning an animal at all, not just rescuing one. Ive seen terrible neglect from a neighbour many years ago when I was only a kid and even then I was so furious. Some people just dont deserve to own pets at all. Fair play to anyone who adopts them from a centre or something similar, at least they are giving them a home. Whenever I have the room to get a dog, I personally could never buy one knowing that there are plenty of other ones out there needing to be rehomed.
    Totally off the topic of a barking dog i know!


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,885 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Right here goes.

    Ive had 5 reports about this thread mainly regarding Cocker5`s opinion ramming.


    Cocker5--While I understand your frustration with dogs being abandoned--Here is not the place to ram your opinion down other users throats-namely steve30x.

    Now I suggest you calm it down a bit--Theres at least one post here that I could have banned you for personal insults.The rules here ar "attack the post not the poster"
    So consider this a warning.


    Steve30x--Theres no point in deleting posts as mods can still read them--in future just report the post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭cocker5


    Hellrazer wrote: »
    Right here goes.

    Ive had 5 reports about this thread mainly regarding Cocker5`s opinion ramming.


    Cocker5--While I understand your frustration with dogs being abandoned--Here is not the place to ram your opinion down other users throats-namely steve30x.

    Now I suggest you calm it down a bit--Theres at least one post here that I could have banned you for personal insults.The rules here ar "attack the post not the poster"
    So consider this a warning.

    I would just like to respond.

    this is a forum....and forums in general are for people expressing opinions... and as I have already stated on previous occasions after years of working with abandoned animals I only have the animals interests on my mind...... and their best interests at heart.

    and as for ramming down my opinions, it seems to me the expressing your opinion and not agreeing with other posters is seen ramming opinions? Cannot see the logic.

    in future i will make sure i comment about the post and not the poster.
    but to be fair i think they are one in the same... not ramming this time... just expressing my opinion.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,885 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    cocker5 wrote: »
    I would just like to respond.

    this is a forum....and forums in general are for people expressing opinions... and as I have already stated on previous occasions after years of working with abandoned animals I only have the animals interests on my mind...... and their best interests at heart.

    While you I agree that you have the animals best interests at heart--its the tone of responses that are the problem here.

    and as for ramming down my opinions, it seems to me the expressing your opinion and not agreeing with other posters is seen ramming opinions?
    Youre well entitled to your opinion but as I stated above its the manner in which you do it
    Cannot see the logic.

    The logic is that while its all well and good to post your opinion it must be done in a non-confrontational way.
    in future i will make sure i comment about the post and not the poster.
    but to be fair i think they are one in the same... not ramming this time... just expressing my opinion.

    Well most peeps wouldnt say that theyre the same.Hence the reason we warn over it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,062 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    Sorry if this is off topic but it's kind of related imo - what do you guys think is acceptable barking? Eg barking when there's a knock on the door etc? Our retriever pup would bark outside if there's say a workman up on a ladder next door but we always bring him in straight away for fear of somebody reporting him! He also barks/cries if his ball rolls under his kennel and he can't get it - but he's only 1 lol :rolleyes:
    He's a bit clingy and really needs to learn how to be on his own but this means he'll be barking while we're in the other room etc and my mam is worried the neighbors next door will complain! They had a dog themselves that barked 24x7 because they dumped it and went away for the day/weekend/2 weeks with him chained up outside and it drove everyone in the area mad to the point somebody complained. They've already "complained" by roaring at the pup after their guests we're banging our fence and teasing him to make him bark! :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭cocker5


    tk123 wrote: »
    Sorry if this is off topic but it's kind of related imo - what do you guys think is acceptable barking? Eg barking when there's a knock on the door etc? Our retriever pup would bark outside if there's say a workman up on a ladder next door but we always bring him in straight away for fear of somebody reporting him! He also barks/cries if his ball rolls under his kennel and he can't get it - but he's only 1 lol :rolleyes:
    He's a bit clingy and really needs to learn how to be on his own but this means he'll be barking while we're in the other room etc and my mam is worried the neighbors next door will complain! They had a dog themselves that barked 24x7 because they dumped it and went away for the day/weekend/2 weeks with him chained up outside and it drove everyone in the area mad to the point somebody complained. They've already "complained" by roaring at the pup after their guests we're banging our fence and teasing him to make him bark! :mad:

    To be very honest here... no i dont agree with barking (i mean lots of barking) there are two types of barking... a dog will bark to express himself or just barking for attention / excess barking.......

    they are both very different.. your little dog is very young... one he is still learning... he barks when his balls rolls under the kennel beacuse he a pup and its annoys him so thats his way of expressing how annoyed or angry he is... what your neighbours are doing banging on the fence and roraing at your pup... i wouldnt have that i would complain to be honest....

    when my dog was a pup and when we played ball with him if he didnt get the ball after awhile he would bark at us!!! His way of saying "my turn gimme the ball"... we told him no and he stopped but learning takes times for all dogs...

    a dog barking all day and night is bored and neglected... they are barking for attention as they get NONE.... regardless if the attention is negative a dog isnt choosey... they just want attention ANY sort of attention...

    We are lucky now our dog at 5 is very quiet... but we did have to work on him...

    your mentioned your dog is clingy... my dog was the same as a pup... he cried at the kitchen door even if we went to the toilet.... after some time your dog will be comfortable on his own and he will stop this behaviour...

    you should make try and squirt a small bit of water at him when he is crying / barking for no reason this will soon stop his behaviour...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 557 ✭✭✭Steve30x


    Hellrazer wrote: »
    Steve30x--Theres no point in deleting posts as mods can still read them--in future just report the post.

    I deleted the posts so that I wouldnt get attacked by any other members. Just trying to keep the peace.

    PS: Frank went to a home in a farm yard this evening where he will be trained to herd sheep.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,885 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Steve30x wrote: »
    I deleted the posts so that I wouldnt get attacked by any other members. Just trying to keep the peace.

    Steve30x---No user should have to delete their own posts in order to avoid being attacked by other members.

    In future if you feel that way report the posts and I`ll deal with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 557 ✭✭✭Steve30x


    Will do :)


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