Do you believe there is life elsewhere in the universe?

Savage Tyrant

So do you believe there is life elsewhere than this tiny planet we live on?
And if you do, do you believe there is sentiant life? Civilisations and intelligence. Or just basic non-sentiant life?

Superbus

Probably. But none of us will ever know and even if we did it would be completely irrelevant.

KittyeeTrix

Has to be!!!!!!!!

What does sentiant mean???

Googled it.....Panic is over!!

DerekDGoldfish

I think there is sentint life but the sheer vastness of the universe means we will probly never meet them ...


until we invent our first warp drive that is

patakadarragh

:pac:

ICE HOUSE

Ignorant not to

caseyann

Is there something relevant about today with all these threads popping up

Carl Sagan

Yes. I believe there's some sort of life. Can't say whether or not it's of any significant intelligence though.

And here's me giving some sort of estimate as to that probability:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlikCebQSlY

stovelid

Savage Tyrant wrote: »

So do you believe there is life elsewhere than this tiny planet we live on?
And if you do, do you believe there is sentiant life? Civilisations and intelligence. Or just basic non-sentiant life?

There's sentient life in places like Longford so it's perfectly possible that it exists in the more desolate corners of the universe.

MagicMarker

Yes, but I'm not going to choose either sentient of non sentient in the options because I don't know which.

Cookie_Monster

there is no way there can't be IMO. out of all the billions of billions of billions of billion of planets how can only one be capable of supporting life?

We already reckon there is a very high chance of finding life of Europa, in our own solar system, maybe even within our own lifetimes.

owenc

Naw its been proven that the conditions aren't good enough i.e its too cold or too warm.

MagicMarker

owenc wrote: »

Naw its been proven that the conditions aren't good enough i.e its too cold or too warm.

I assume this is aimed at Cookie_Monsters last comment?

MrMatisse

well Brian Cowen certainly lives on another planet.

stovelid

owenc wrote: »

Naw its been proven that the conditions aren't good enough i.e its too cold or too warm.

Those lads have been busy: providing that feedback on the entire universe.

Sam Kade

ICE HOUSE wrote: »

Ignorant not to

Why?

dlofnep

Absolutely. I'd bet my life on it. And your life!

bullets

Doh!!!!!!! I opened two different threads at once that had Poll's and clicked NO for this one instead of Clicking YES.

The poll I thought I was clicking NO to was "Do you believe in the supernatural"

Yeah absolutly I believe that there is intelligent Life elsewhere in the Universe, and Life similar less and more advanced than ourselves.

But...I dont believe in little green men, alien abductions,
and all this UFO crap (even though I like reading about it)


~B

Cookie_Monster

owenc wrote: »

Naw its been proven that the conditions aren't good enough i.e its too cold or too warm.

so if its too cold at the surface and to warm in the core then surely the middle is just right?

Anyway if there is liquid water under the ice than the likely hood is fairly high, especially around any volcanic vents there maybe. Plenty of life lives at extremly high temps around vents in our oceans

Savage Tyrant

owenc wrote: »

Naw its been proven that the conditions aren't good enough i.e its too cold or too warm.

Ah well that's answered that then.
And by proven, you'd mean with evidence to support that right? Any chance you'd give the rest of us access to these groundbreaking findings?

karlog

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

so if its too cold at the surface and to warm in the core then surely the middle is just right?

Anyway if there is liquid water under the ice than the likely hood is fairly high, especially around any volcanic vents there maybe. Plenty of life lives at extremly high temps around vents in our oceans

I'm pretty sure you mean Europa not Io.

My name is URL

Depends on what our narrow definition of 'life' is.. Viruses are not 'alive'.. but they're as 'living' as any other organism as far as 'life' can observe them

Cookie_Monster

Sam Kade wrote: »

Why?

to think that earth as a planet is in anyway special or unique in the universe is a bit nieve at least, if not ignorant.

owenc

Savage Tyrant wrote: »

Ah well that's answered that then.
And by proven, you'd mean with evidence to support that right? Any chance you'd give the rest of us access to these groundbreaking findings?

Well by life i'm talking like humans or aliens lol (something big) not wee animals like mites or something.

dlofnep

owenc wrote: »

Well by life i'm talking like humans or aliens lol (something big) not wee animals like mites or something.

Do you believe that intelligent life exists outside of our Solar System?

Savage Tyrant

My name is URL wrote: »

Depends on what our narrow definition of 'life' is.. Viruses are not 'alive'.. but they're as 'living' as any other organism as far as 'life' can observe them

That is why I included the options of "sentiant" or "non-sentiant" in the poll.
Non-sentiant would cover life such as virus', bacteria, single celled organisms, right up to animals of any size, capable of reproducing but not the ability to perceive or question their existance. Or feel emotion.

Prof.Badass

I'd put the chances at 99%.

Although, I'd imagine the chances that humans will ever come in contact with sentient aliens are much more modest.

The_Minister

Btw, we are pretty sure we already found the remains of life on Mars, albeit microbial.

What makes me doubt that there is other sentient life out there is how many species, and millions of years, it took before we came around, and we have only been sentient for a tiny amount of time; also we may be dead within 400 years or so.

It is unlikely that there si another sentient species at the exact same time as us - although octopuses are sentient.

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

there is no way there can't be IMO. out of all the billions of billions of billions of billion of planets how can only one be capable of supporting life?

We already reckon there is a very high chance of finding life of Europa, in our own solar system, maybe even within our own lifetimes.

Europa surely?

Cookie_Monster

The_Minister wrote: »

Europa surely?

yep. as per your quote

Bajingo

Savage Tyrant wrote: »

That is why I included the options of "sentiant" or "non-sentiant" in the poll.
Non-sentiant would cover life such as virus', bacteria, single celled organisms, right up to animals of any size, capable of reproducing but not the ability to perceive or question their existance. Or feel emotion.

A virus isn't seen as living although bacteria is alive..even though they act as if they are alive..

Yes, I think there is life out there on other planets, it's just that getting there is a problem and potentially, at least, I believe discovering life on another planet could affect us quite a bit.

Mike 1972

basic and non-sentiant
Advanced sentiant life.

Why is it either/or when both exist here on earth ?

And shouldnt there be probably/definitely/not options ?

And are there atari jaguars on other planets?

falan

There absolutely has to be intelligent life out there. Not in our solar system maybe. Just think how big the universe is.

Just has to be,though its highly doubtful we'll be meeting up any time soon:)

NASA have the co-ordinates of earth printed on the side of all their rockets and equipment just in case.

Brendog

Watch this video

it will seriously open your eyes to how large the universe is.

Basically its impossible for us to be the only sentient life in the universe.


on the bad side its also impossible to visit these other galaxies....even when going at the speed of light

Savage Tyrant

The_Minister wrote: »

Btw, we are pretty sure we already found the remains of life on Mars, albeit microbial.

What makes me doubt that there is other sentient life out there is how many species, and millions of years, it took before we came around, and we have only been sentient for a tiny amount of time; also we may be dead within 400 years or so.

It is unlikely that there si another sentient species at the exact same time as us - although octopuses are sentient.

I don't see why you'd discount the possibility of other sentiant life at the same time as us.
In my opinion (and it is only an opinion) there are thousands of other civilisations out there. All in different stages of evolution and progression. Many less advanced than us, and many more advanced. Possibly capable of far distant travel. (Though I don't believe in the abduction stories you hear. If they have been here it has been without our knowledge and only observational) I also believe there are many that have already died out. And my opinion is that we here on Earth will die out/or destroy ourselves to be more exact, long before we ever manage to develop a means to travel into far space.

Yakult

Considering the size of the universe, yes. Its impossible to say tho.

My name is URL

Savage Tyrant wrote: »

That is why I included the options of "sentiant" or "non-sentiant" in the poll.
Non-sentiant would cover life such as virus', bacteria, single celled organisms, right up to animals of any size, capable of reproducing but not the ability to perceive or question their existance. Or feel emotion.

I voted sentient.. assuming that all possible non-cellular life is not sentient is just as the same as assuming that all sentient life can only exist on earth.

There's a lot we don't know about yet.. and even more that we don't know we don't know about

Life as in microbes?

Without a shadow of a doubt

AtomicHorror

When you look at the numbers as we know them now, 460+ planets around other stars discovered since 1990 (the vast majority in the last 10 years), it seems likely that there are far more planets out there than there are stars. And there are a whole lot of stars. If there's only two or three planets per star on average, with billions of stars per galaxy and easily 100 billion galaxies, well... the notion that not one other of these places has hit the jackpot seems very unlikely to me. There is life, but whether it would be recognisable to us in physical form or in the nature of its sentience, I really don't know. What we've seen on Earth is that evolution often produces similar solutions to similar problems (think fishes and dolphins) but all life here is inter-related, which does confound that observation a bit. Take that away and start the whole thing from scratch and who knows what the results might be?

My name is URL wrote: »

Depends on what our narrow definition of 'life' is.. Viruses are not 'alive'.. but they're as 'living' as any other organism as far as 'life' can observe them

No they're not, because they're entirely inert unless they're actually inside a cell hijacking all of the bits the cell uses to be genuinely 'alive' as we typically think of it. Our definition of life can be really broad and still exclude viruses. Now that said, I lean more towards calling them a life form (because my definition of life is broader still)- but certainly wouldn't say they're "as 'living' as any other organism" as you put it.

Savage Tyrant

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Why is it either/or when both exist here on earth ?

And shouldnt there be probably/definitely/not options ?

And are there atari jaguars on other planets?

It's not really an either/or. I would assume those that vote for sentiant life would also then agree there has to be non-sentiant there also. I don't see how one species of sentiant life could exist without also having had non-sentiant life alsongside them. Possibly as food sources.

And as for probably/definately it makes the answers more vague. I hate people sitting on the fence. just give an opinion. Not like you're gong to be hung drawn and quartered if you got it wrong. (In this question though we'll likely never find out one way or the other in this lifetime)

And Atai Jaguars?? really?? you need to ask?? I think their very existance is as close to 100% proof of life elsewhere than we'll ever likely get. I believe the very first inter-galactic spaceship was infact an Atari Jaguar.

bazza1

Statistically, there is a strong probability of life elsewhere. Obviously not locally! Should we be spending time/money on the search? Probably not, considering the vastness of the universe. If we are smarter than them, they will not understand our messages and if they are smarter than us, they will find US!

Or kill and eat us lol!:D

The_Minister

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

yep. as per your quote

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caseyann

bazza1 wrote: »

Statistically, there is a strong probability of life elsewhere. Obviously not locally! Should we be spending time/money on the search? Probably not, considering the vastness of the universe. If we are smarter than them, they will not understand our messages and if they are smarter than us, they will find US!

Or kill and eat us lol!:D

They are obviously not that smart as they are eating and killing us already,Not such a healthy diet:
Insert mary harney :P

My name is URL

AtomicHorror wrote: »

No they're not, because they're entirely inert unless they're actually inside a cell hijacking all of the bits the cell uses to be genuinely 'alive' as we typically think of it. Our definition of life can be really broad and still exclude viruses. Now that said, I lean more towards calling them a life form (because my definition of life is broader still)- but certainly wouldn't say they're "as 'living' as any other organism" as you put it.

They're entirely inert to life as we know it, but probably wouldn't exist without it. They mutate to facilitate the make up of different life-forms and conditions to how those survive.

I couldn't think of them as non-living simply because of that. They're observably alive when viewed in juxtaposition with what we consider to be life.

Ruu_Old

Oh yes, I saw a documentary called Star Trek, it was brilliant. They went to all sorts of planets and other star systems. The ship was captained by this great man called Jean Luc Picard. Oh the fun they had!

Hank_Jones

We'll be attacked by aliens, they'll want our planet.
Thankfully we have Randy Quaid to save us though.

Mike 1972

Savage Tyrant wrote: »

And as for probably/definately it makes the answers more vague. I hate people sitting on the fence.

I dont like giving absolute answers when there is no evidence to support them

Savage Tyrant

Mike 1972 wrote: »

I dont like giving absolute answers when there is no evidence to support them

It's not an absolute answer though, it's an opinion.

Mike 1972

Savage Tyrant wrote: »

It's not an absolute answer though, it's an opinion.

My opinion is "probably"

Ickle Magoo

I think bearing in mind the vastness of the cosmos, the odds are that there is life existing somewhere other than earth - what form that life takes, I can only imagine.

Duggy747

Given how vast the universe is it would be silly to deny that another sort of intelligent life exists out there.

Then again, even if there is life-forms (say like animals) abroad it could be just as plausible that we're smartest things around................though, I like to entertain the idea there's life-forms thousands of years more advanced than us. :pac:

If they do come here looking to take over I'm gonna send my C.V onto them.............might get some work. :P

I'd just love to see one type of life-form that's compeletly out there from our understanding of what organisms should look like. (formation of eyes, body, limbs, etc) Sorta like the bizzare stuff we have from the sea (octupus, jellyfish, nasty rank things from the deep-sea)

Odats

I watch alot of those universey type programs on National Geographic so I believe there is other life forms in other universes but intelligent lifeforms on the other hand maybe so but if they were anyway more intelligent than humans they would've found us by now in some shape or form.
I love the terraform of Mars idea looks so cool.