Wimbledon on TG4...why?

Oh_Noes

I don't understand why RTE let this go to TG4. I'm not really much of a tv watcher so I've never felt the need to get Sky/UPC but I always enjoyed watching Wimbledon, which I still do.

But it's on the Irish language channel now and short of asking to go to the bathroom or telling people to kiss me arse, I have no idea what the commentators are saying. I mean it's good and all that it's actually on tv and I can still watch it, but with no commentary

I don't understand the logic of putting wimbledon on TG4, I was never aware that tennis is more/less popular in the Gaelgoir community than it is everywhere else.

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I prefer its on TG4 - RTÉ wouldn't show it since, they're showing the world cup...
I rate TG4 more as a station than I do RTÉ anyway...
I don't see what logic has to do with this though? It's clear that you're just very anti-TG4... Personally it seems to me that the primary purpose of your post was to begin a TG4 bitching thread - If that's the case I feel you'll be quite disappointed as quite a few posters around here rate it highly as a TV station...

Minstrel27

Oh_Noes wrote: »

I don't understand why RTE let this go to TG4.

You say this like RTÉ had a choice.

Oh_Noes

CaptainNegative wrote: »

I prefer its on TG4 - RTÉ wouldn't show it since, they're showing the world cup...

They did during the previous three world cups.

CaptainNegative wrote: »

Personally it seems to me that the primary purpose of your post was to begin a TG4 bitching thread - If that's the case I feel you'll be quite disappointed as quite a few posters around here rate it highly as a TV station...

Nope, the purpose of the thread was to make the point that I don't understand why RTE would limit its audience for such a popular sporting event.

Sounds like YOU want to start an argument about how good/bad TG4 is, I watch it as much as the other stations, I'm not militant either way about it as you seem to be.

Melion

Oh_Noes wrote: »

They did during the previous three world cups.

I dont recall RTE having Wimbledon anytime recently

Oh_Noes

TG4 have had it for about four years, was on RTE every summer up until then.

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Oh_Noes wrote: »

Sounds like YOU want to start an argument about how good/bad TG4 is, I watch it as much as the other stations, I'm not militant either way about it as you seem to be.

No thanks, we only just had an debate about it here recently - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055897348

You can read my "militant" views on the matter there... :rolleyes:

Oh_Noes

CaptainNegative wrote: »

No thanks, we only just had an argument about it here recently - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055897348

You can read my "militant" views on the matter there... :rolleyes:

Then why would you try to start an irrelevant argument again in a different thread and then link the other thread? The pro/anti Irish language thing has been done to death and I've no interest in it.

phasers

More sport?

Oh dear God. Keep it on TG4!

dunleakelleher

Oh_Noes wrote: »

But it's on the Irish language channel now and short of asking to go to the bathroom or telling people to kiss me arse, I have no idea what the commentators are saying.

Why not, your Irish aren't you. That's the real question here. Why don't you understand what they are saying in your native tongue.;)

Micilin Muc

I was never aware that tennis is more/less popular in the Gaelgoir community than it is everywhere else.

I was never aware that tennis is more/less popular in the English-speaking community either than it is everywhere else. Why shouldn't TG4 have the right to show whatever they want?

mike65

Grass tennis is better in Irish? Its a cheap filler for TG4 under the guise of niche programming for those too cheap to subscribe to cable/Sky and too dim to fit an FTA system.

Oh_Noes

Micilin Muc wrote: »

I was never aware that tennis is more/less popular in the English-speaking community either than it is everywhere else. Why shouldn't TG4 have the right to show whatever they want?

I didn't say they shouldn't have the right to, I'm saying RTE should have made their best efforts to secure the rights to show it.

Why not, your Irish aren't you. That's the real question here. Why don't you understand what they are saying in your native tongue.

My native tongue is English. What you're really asking is why doesn't everyone in Ireland speak Irish. You'd have to do a bit of reading up and figure that one out for yourself...

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Oh_Noes wrote: »

Then why would you try to start an irrelevant argument again in a different thread and then link the other thread? The pro/anti Irish language thing has been done to death and I've no interest in it.

It's in no way irrelevant... It's very relevant to me... I'm not trying to start anything, but your original post was negative towards TG4, whether you meant it to be or not and as someone who has an opinion on the matter wanted to defend the statement.
My question to you is, why start a thread if you're only gonna disregard anyone who joins in the discussion?

Mick Daly

Wimbledon was NEVER on RTÉ

mike65

It was, Jim Sherwin used to do the appalling commentary which largely consisted of saying "great shot"

Oh_Noes

CaptainNegative wrote: »

My question to you is, why start a thread if you're only gonna disregard anyone who joins in the discussion?

Where exactly is it negative towards TG4? I said nothing negative about TG4 yet because you interpret it that way makes it relevant?

There's GAA on RTE 1 and Wimbledon on TG4 at the moment. My point is that Irish terrestrial tv has its priorities arseways.

TG4 is terrible and I hate the Irish language.

TG4 is amazing and I love the Irish language.

Read whichever of the above lines you prefer, I'm not bothered either way.

Micilin Muc

Your comment about tennis being popular among Gaeilgeoirí is an ignorant one. Why wouldn't Gaeilgeoirí like tennis? Or any other sport?

I think TG4 are serving their audience well by broadcasting Wimbledon.

Mick Daly

What's the big deal? I wouldn't look at it anyway. If I did it would be on BBC but I wouldn't have much of an interest.

Unless you are a big fan of Aifríc and America tweeny dramas which are usually shown in the afternoons then it shouldn't be a big problem.

Minstrel27

Oh_Noes wrote: »

There's GAA on RTE 1 and Wimbledon on TG4 at the moment. My point is that Irish terrestrial tv has its priorities arseways.

Priorities are arseways because RTÉ One are showing GAA?

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Oh_Noes wrote: »

Where exactly is it negative towards TG4?

I think Micilin Muc has answered that question nicely:

Micilin Muc wrote: »

Your comment about tennis being popular among Gaeilgeoirí is an ignorant one. Why wouldn't Gaeilgeoirí like tennis? Or any other sport?

I think TG4 are serving their audience well by broadcasting Wimbledon.

Mick Daly

Minstrel27 wrote: »

Priorities are arseways because RTÉ One are showing GAA?

Maybe the OP means that TG4 should show the Irish sport as it's the Irish language station.

RTÉ should then show Wimbledon.

Mint Sauce

aren't they showing le tour de france as well?

i think its great, not everyone has access to the beeb and/or sky

Oh_Noes

Micilin Muc wrote: »

Your comment about tennis being popular among Gaeilgeoirí is an ignorant one. Why wouldn't Gaeilgeoirí like tennis? Or any other sport?

I think TG4 are serving their audience well by broadcasting Wimbledon.

My comment was "I don't understand the logic of putting wimbledon on TG4, I was never aware that tennis is more/less popular in the Gaelgoir community than it is everywhere else."

If you see that as some kind of attack then you're maybe being a tad sensitive,

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Oh_Noes wrote: »

My comment was "I don't understand the logic of putting wimbledon on TG4, I was never aware that tennis is more/less popular in the Gaelgoir community than it is everywhere else."

If you see that as some kind of attack then you're maybe being a tad sensitive,

It seems more likely to me that you're being a tad ignorant assuming that TG4 only caters for people with Gaeilge... There's no rule that you have to have Gaeilge to watch the station...

deisedude

The reason TG4 have Wimbledon is because there is **** all interest in Tennis here in Ireland and they can get the rights for cheap. If RTE thought it was worth their money they could easily financially outmuscle TG4 and buy the rights

Oh_Noes

CaptainNegative wrote: »

It seems more likely to me that you're being a tad ignorant assuming that TG4 only caters for people with Gaeilge... There's no rule that you have to have Gaeilge to watch the station...

I never suggested such a thing.

The commentary for Wimbledon is in Irish.

Micilin Muc

Oh_Noes wrote: »

My comment was "I don't understand the logic of putting wimbledon on TG4, I was never aware that tennis is more/less popular in the Gaelgoir community than it is everywhere else."

If you see that as some kind of attack then you're maybe being a tad sensitive,

I don't see it as an attack. I just think it's an ignorant comment. It shows lack of awareness of TG4's audience. Irish speakers are no different to non-Irish speakers and they enjoy more or less the same sports as anyone else. The logic of putting Wimbledon on TG4 is that their audience follow sport as much as the audience of any other station. It's quite a simple logic to follow.

If you really don't care about Irish one way or another, why didn't you entitle the thread "Why doesn't RTÉ show Wimbledon?"?

Elmo

Why Not?

In 1998 RTÉ took the decision not to air the Tournament because most people watch on the BBC, TG4 took up the tournament in 2005. They provide highlights in English with live shows in Irish. TG4 is an FTA broadcaster and a Public Service Broadcaster. It took the initivative in 2005 (a 7 year gap) to get rights to Wimbledon and Tour De France after years of neglect from both TV3 and RTÉ.

I think they are right to show the tournament when no other Irish Broadcaster is all that interested.

Also Sports don't need commentators you can see the scoreboard and the game, if you were at the tournament you would not have the commentators. Sport = International Language.

Here is a dictionary of Irish words for the tournament. http://www.tg4.ie/clar/wimb/dict.asp?WID=1

Regardless of Language TG4 is providing an excellent service.

Minstrel27

Mick Daly wrote: »

Maybe the OP means that TG4 should show the Irish sport as it's the Irish language station.

RTÉ should then show Wimbledon.

As RTÉ is a channel that caters for an irish audience it would be rather stupid if they weren't to show GAA because it is an Irish sport.

Elmo

Oh_Noes wrote: »

There's GAA on RTE 1 and Wimbledon on TG4 at the moment. My point is that Irish terrestrial tv has its priorities arseways.

RTÉ 2 has the WC hence why RTE 1 is showing GAA.

So The English Games should be on the English Channel. I see your job at the Assimilation committee isn't working out. I won't shoot the messenger

civis_liberalis

Mick Daly wrote: »

Wimbledon was NEVER on RTÉ

It was on every summer.

Oh_Noes

Elmo wrote: »

RTÉ 2 has the WC hence why RTE 1 is showing GAA.

So The English Games should be on the English Channel. I see your job at the Assimilation committee isn't working out. I won't shoot the messenger

Do you reckon the GAA would be on for allowing tennis to be played in Croke Park?

K4t

For those who don't have access to sky or bbc I think it's great that tg4 are showing it. I myself watch it on bbc due to the excellent commentary and analysis (plus it's in English). I'm not sure if there's even a subtitles option on tg4 for wimbledon which is poor form tbh.

I like tg4, they tend to do their wn thing and aren't afraid of not playing to the masses. Remember, it was tg4 that aired possibly the greatest tv drama ever in the Wire whereas rte, even if it had somehow decided to air it, would have got rid after one season due to poor ratings. This from a state broadcaster. Tg4 also aired Oz, another great hbo drama.

p.s. I'd just like to add that wimbledon has been head and shoulders above the world cup in terms of a sporting spectacle and in terms of sporting quality over the past week. Apart from a handful of decent games the world cup has been desperate. Hopefully it does pick up in the knockout stages though.

Mr Keek

Why don't you just put your TV on Mute and watch the game and stream the Live UK commentry from your Laptop or through your phone?

Seehttp://www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/interactive/radio/index.html

Problem = Solved!

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Jesus, some of you people are unbelievably over-sensitive or else just plain bitchy.

sam34

Mick Daly wrote: »

Wimbledon was NEVER on RTÉ

emmm, yes it was, for many years

TonyD79

Some people have very short memories!!!

murpho999

K4t wrote: »

For those who don't have access to sky or bbc I think it's great that tg4 are showing it. I myself watch it on bbc due to the excellent commentary and analysis (plus it's in English). I'm not sure if there's even a subtitles option on tg4 for wimbledon which is poor form tbh.

Sorry but you're asking a lot there...you want TG4 to provide translated subtitles on screen from live commentary....can you tell me where else you have seen this?

Minstrel27

K4t wrote: »

I'm not sure if there's even a subtitles option on tg4 for wimbledon which is poor form tbh.

It is? Why would you need English subtitles for tennis?

rovert

Cant wait for TG4's live coverage of the Queens visit.

K4t

murpho999 wrote: »

Sorry but you're asking a lot there...you want TG4 to provide translated subtitles on screen from live commentary....can you tell me wheree else you have seen this?

Ah fair enough, didn't think of that. BBC for me so.

Minstrel27 wrote: »

It is? Why would you need English subtitles for tennis?

Personally, I find the commentary adds an awful lot to a sporting event. I think the majority of sports fans would agree.

Minstrel27

I and many others have no problem watching football in other languages. Until a survey is carried out I will have to disagree thaty the majority would want subtitles on the screen.

JackBrgs

Mick Daly wrote: »

Maybe the OP means that TG4 should show the Irish sport as it's the Irish language station.

RTÉ should then show Wimbledon.

Oh, so there shouldn't be rugby on France 2?

Elmo

JackBrgs wrote: »

Oh, so there shouldn't be rugby on France 2?

They should only show bowls