The license fee should go to the BBC

Cantona's Collars

Where I am I have a clear view of the RTE transmitter on Mt.Leinster yet can't get RTE on analogue so it's Sky for me.Wonder if I got the license inspector up and showed him the quality of picture and argue that part of my Sky sub goes to RTE anyway so theres no need for me to pay tv license again seeing as the analogue signal is unwatchable.I have to laugh at people who reckon RTE is great-U.S. imports I've seen on SKY (at a reasonable hour,not the middle of the night),UK soaps and current affairs that would drive you to drink are not my idea of entertainment.The statement "as long as I get my soaps" galls me.If RTE lost them,how many viewers would they lose.

watty

Sky doesn't pay RTE a cent.

We had TV licence before Irish TV even existed. Reception of RTE is irrelevant.

Minstrel27 wrote: »

Pat Kenny was given a pay increase? Last I heard he was on about €600,000

That is x10 too much

Elmo

carrolls wrote: »

The improvements cannot be made now as they are broke. Its too late. They have frittered away any capital that they had over the last 20 years on luxuries such as Marian Finucane, Eurovision, Ryan Tubridy, Eastenders, Joe Duffy, one manager for every six people in the organisation, FIVE orchestras, two presenters for the national lottery program. An average salary of €80,000. etc, etc.
The jury is out on Pat Kenny. €1,000,000 is high but he actually is a decent presenter.

Eurovision = Riverdance, I think RTÉ did alright out of that one.
EastEnders = But sure the BBC produce that and isn't that the point of this whole thread?
2 Orchestras, 1 Quartet and 2 Choirs= Do you think RTÉ want them? Oh and the BBC have 4 orchestras and 1 Choir, but I suppose that is just a waste of BBC money.
BBC spend allot more on there stars.

As for Winning Streak who cares how many presenters it has? I have more of an issue with the show itself. I have a similar view of "In it to win it".

Watty why are you suggesting RTÉ do a version of Total Exposure?

Minstrel27

zerks wrote: »

If RTE lost them,how many viewers would they lose.

You would be surprised. If RTÉ lost the soaps I certainly wouldn't be bothered.

Not everyone wants to get their news and current affairs from the UK. Believe it or not a lot of people don't watch RTÉ for US imports.

The tv licence is not for your reception of RTÉ. It is for having a television tuner capable of receiving any television signal.

STB

zerks wrote: »

Where I am I have a clear view of the RTE transmitter on Mt.Leinster yet can't get RTE on analogue so it's Sky for me.Wonder if I got the license inspector up and showed him the quality of picture and argue that part of my Sky sub goes to RTE anyway so theres no need for me to pay tv license again seeing as the analogue signal is unwatchable.I have to laugh at people who reckon RTE is great-U.S. imports I've seen on SKY (at a reasonable hour,not the middle of the night),UK soaps and current affairs that would drive you to drink are not my idea of entertainment.The statement "as long as I get my soaps" galls me.If RTE lost them,how many viewers would they lose.

RTE 1 commands 23.7% of viewership figures (the highest). In comparison RTE 2 command 10% of Irish viewing habits (the third highest).



And of that RTE output these are actually the most viewed programs:


1. Prime Time Tuesday 486k
2. Prime Time Thursday 486k
3. Prime time investigates Monday 449k
4. Fair City Monday 415k
5. The Frontline Monday 413k
6. Fair City Sunday 413k
7. The Sunday game live 401k
8. Fair City Wednesday 399k
9. Desperate Housewives 399k
10. Room to improve Wednesday 380k
11. My Showhouse Tues 360k
12. Eastenders Tues

2 IMPORTS in top 12. Rest is news or home produced content. Another myth dispelled ?

The likes of neighbours/CSI Miami.Home & away etc only command a reach of 170k and below

Cantona's Collars

I did mention the current affairs programmes,they cheer us up no end.I know knowledge of whats going on in the country is essential but the depressing tone of them hardly helps,Fair City!! God help us.Without the GAA coverage and World Cup the selection is pretty poor.BTW I don't rely on 'foreign' providers for my news coverage.Theres a similar thread on digital spy on the UK tv license.RTE pay inflated wages to presenters that a whole generation aren't interested in any more-stand up Pat Kenny.If any other service was of the quality of RTE a lot of people would get rid.Dunphy on the world cup panel is worth the money-love him or hate him we all listen to what he says,how many other personalities on RTE can claim that.RTE 2 goes for the younger demographic and the dominance of RTE 1 just proves the viewing age for RTE is old and getting older.

Minstrel27

zerks wrote: »

RTE 2 goes for the younger demographic and the dominance of RTE 1 just proves the viewing age for RTE is old and getting older.

It proves nothing. Younger people will watch a far wider number of television channels.

Elmo

zerks wrote: »

There's a similar thread on digital spy on the UK tv license.RTE pay inflated wages to presenters that a whole generation aren't interested in any more-stand up Pat Kenny.If any other service was of the quality of RTE a lot of people would get rid.Dunphy on the world cup panel is worth the money-love him or hate him we all listen to what he says,how many other personalities on RTE can claim that..

Pat Kenny seems to have a love/hate relationship going on here in this thread.

I could just as easily turn around and say

I hate soccer (spectator sports in general) and Dunphy is an insufferable bore. Why should my licence fee go on so much sports? And on the inflated wages of a Panel of Sporting experts. For that matter why should RTÉ spend money on Children's TV I never watch it, iCarly feck off. And Daytime TV FFS waste of money people should be at work. Fair City and the Soaps axe them all. Lets see more Quality Drama and Documentary in HD and close the Newsroom so that RTÉ can pay for it.

However I understand that there are more people out there than just me and my TV viewing habits.

watty

RTE current affairs and News would be even better if they treated FF the same way as they treated Labour or FG.

News, Documentary, Current affairs and Local Sport are indeed the most important for any indigenous or PSB broadcaster.

None of the highly paid people on ITV, BBC or RTE are "worth the money", in the sense the that the programs would be as good or better with anyone else sensibly chosen and paid a 1/10th or less of the obscene salaries. The only talent and skill they have (and some oddly not even that) is to be able to talk.

STB

zerks wrote: »

RTE 2 goes for the younger demographic and the dominance of RTE 1 just proves the viewing age for RTE is old and getting older.

The figures above are accross all demographics and are both RTE 1 and 2 content.

BrianD

zerks wrote: »

Where I am I have a clear view of the RTE transmitter on Mt.Leinster yet can't get RTE on analogue so it's Sky for me..

Is Mt. Leinster the transmitter covering your area. Just because you can see it serves you. Have you explored the reasons as to why the poor reception? In regard to paying for TV delivery by Sky it doesn't excuse the neccesity for the licence. Plenty of people pay for UPC in cabled areas etc.

zerks wrote:

RTE 2 goes for the younger demographic and the dominance of RTE 1 just proves the viewing age for RTE is old and getting older.

Which is inline with the general population - it is aging!

Cantona's Collars

To clarify things,my TV license is paid EVERY YEAR. My main gripe is the fact that a huge amount of the population have to pay twice to view RTE.Be it with SKY or UPC because the reception is so poor.And yes MT.Leinster does service where I live,you'd think with a mast that size I'd get decent reception without having the outside of the house ending up like NASA. That is a common problem nationwide,I was in a house lately and the owner had a 50" plasma with rabbits ears "to see the soaps"-the reception was shocking,she thought because the picture was so good in the shop that it would be like that at home.I couldn't get through to her that the picture on it in store was from satellite.A waste of a good tv.The other posters are right,a huge amount of money is being wasted on 'personalities' to talk inanely at us.As for daytime tv it's soul destroying rubbish but each to their own.

Minstrel27

zerks wrote: »

My main gripe is the fact that a huge amount of the population have to pay twice to view RTE.Be it with SKY or UPC because the reception is so poor.

I do not believe that. Sure some areas of the country have dire reception but a huge amount of the population? Most people with bad terrestrial reception have it because of poor aerial installation.

Cantona's Collars

Trust me it's more widespread than you'd like to believe.That's not a spurious claim-if you met as many people with bad RTE reception as I have you wouldn't blame poor ariel installation for the problem and accept that it is poor in a lot of Ireland. Here's hoping the DTT rollout will cure this.

Minstrel27

zerks wrote: »

Here's hoping the DTT rollout will cure this.

It should do. I can get faultless reception of the trials with an aerial in my attic that hasn't been setup correctly.

dunworth1

zerks wrote: »

Trust me it's more widespread than you'd like to believe.That's not a spurious claim-if you met as many people with bad RTE reception as I have you wouldn't blame poor ariel installation for the problem and accept that it is poor in a lot of Ireland. Here's hoping the DTT rollout will cure this.

how would you know its widespread did you go driving around the country with an Ariel and check the reception?
because there is know way you could know how good people are receiving rte

Sam Russell

If you look at any housing estate with aerials on rooftops, they all point in slightly different directions, sometimes in significantly different directions. They have obviously been put up without a meter to get best direction, meerly to get a signal that was 'good enough'. I have seen apalling reception in peoples house, some where the TV was set up with completely wrong setting for shape, contrast, brightness and colour, all on the same set. What the aerial was doing was not that important as perfect reception would be ruined anyway.

With DTT, at least 'good enough' should be good enough.