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A cruise missile slammed into the Pentagon on 911

  • 24-06-2010 10:15AM
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWj-dUOWNzI
    Reporter says a cruise missile struck the building!
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    http://disclose.tv/viewVideo.php?video_id=44286

    The missile strike which must have come from high level classified sources, is at 1 minute 09 seconds of the above 3m 42s video, which also has footage of a cruise missile in American Airlines livery being loaded onto a B52 Bomber!

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    Another version of the same photo without the AA paint, turned up in a 2003 Joe Vialls story titled..

    CIA False Flag Attack on Kuwaiti Shopping Mall
    http://z10.invisionfree.com/The_Unhived_Mi...showtopic=29892

    The bystander's eyes in the upper shot have been blacked over proving the photo has been shopped, however it could have been done to confuse the fact that the AA paint has been shopped out of the lower shot! As well the actual missile that hit the building had a pointier nose than the one above, which does however illustrate that "they" have no qualms about disguising attack drones and missiles as civilian aircraft!

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    Looks like the cruiser had a device that homed in on the laser spot!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcWT2lQszEE

    Only minutes after the strike, a television reporter says there is nothing to indicate a plane struck the Pentagon.

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    The highlighted object in the small pic, which is the first frame in the only officially released footage of the Pentagon strike, resembles the nosecone on the cruiser and the streaking object in the moving video above!

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    Above is a shot of an aerial launch of a Russian CH 55 cruise missile, from a TU 160 aircraft.

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    Pentacon.com

    Now we must consider whether the plane climbing above the Pentagon, similarly launched the missile that hit that building.

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    It seems it did, a cruise missile on the test range.. looks exactly like the Pentagon strike.

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    Above N644AA2 Flght 77, the aircraft "they" say struck the building.

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    Pentacon.com

    This is the latest mystery plane, it is thought to be the same aircraft seen climbing over the Pentagon during its approach!

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    Above, from Pentacon.com, a computer animation of the flyover compiled from the testimony of numerous eye witnesses.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daNr_TrBw6E

    Major General Albert "Bert" N. Stubblebine III, former head of all intelligence says: "I do know that the Pentagon was not hit by an aircraft, no way, the press is saying what they have been told to say, the stories about 9/11 are false."

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUmr9dFbf2c

    911 Commission member says missile strike, then quickly corrects himself.

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    The previous mystery plane pictured over the White House at 9:44 am on 11 September 2001, was a highly modified E-4B Boeing 747 operated by the National Airborne Operations Center.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld7fn2qykv4

    This video shows no plane impact accompanied the explosion!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 240 ✭✭patrickk


    This footage with witness reports proves finally once and for all the commercial plane did not crash into Pentagon but rather flew over and either bomb or missile caused explosion .But this video concentrates on witness reports and key witness the taxi driver with pole number 1 which he even claims off camera says attack was planned .It would be funny only this attack on 9/11 was not funny many people died innocently .

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5FhQc-LJ-o&feature=player_embedded


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭Di0genes


    patrickk wrote: »
    This footage with witness reports proves finally once and for all the commercial plane did not crash into Pentagon but rather flew over and either bomb or missile caused explosion .But this video concentrates on witness reports and key witness the taxi driver with pole number 1 which he even claims off camera says attack was planned .It would be funny only this attack on 9/11 was not funny many people died innocently .

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5FhQc-LJ-o&feature=player_embedded


    As has been pointed out already.


    Pentagon witness spreadsheet (Excel file)
    104 directly saw the plane hit the Pentagon.

    6 were nearly hit by the plane in front of the Pentagon. Several others were within 100-200 feet of the impact.

    26 mentioned that it was an American Airlines jet.

    39 others mentioned that it was a large jet/commercial airliner.

    2 described a smaller corporate jet. 1 described a "commuter plane" but didn't mention the size.

    7 said it was a Boeing 757.

    8 witnesses were pilots. One witness was an Air Traffic Controller and Pentagon tower Chief.

    2 witnesses were firefighters working on their truck at the Pentagon heliport.

    4 made radio calls to inform emergency services that a plane had hit the Pentagon.

    10 said the plane's flaps and landing gear were not deployed (1 thought landing gear struck a light pole).

    16 mentioned seeing the plane hit light poles/trees, or were next to to the poles when it happened. Another 8 mentioned the light poles being knocked down: it's unknown if they saw them hit.

    42 mentioned seeing aircraft debris. 4 mentioned seeing airline seats. 3 mentioned engine parts.
    2 mentioned bodies still strapped into seats.

    15 mentioned smelling or contacting aviation/jet fuel.

    3 had vehicles damaged by light poles or aircraft debris. Several saw other occupied vehicles damaged.

    3 took photographs of the aftermath.

    Many mentioned false alarm warnings of other incoming planes after the crash. One said "3-4 warnings."

    And of course,

    0 saw a military aircraft or missile strike the Pentagon.

    0 saw a plane narrowly miss the Pentagon and fly away.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭fontanalis


    Di0genes wrote: »
    As has been pointed out already.


    Pentagon witness spreadsheet (Excel file)

    Maybe it was a missile with a hologram disguising it?
    http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2006/12/your_friday_dose_of_woo_and_now_for_some.php


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 240 ✭✭patrickk


    Di0genes wrote: »
    As has been pointed out already.


    Pentagon witness spreadsheet (Excel file)

    Very impressive listing but fact is there are police officers in this youtube video who all are 100% sure they saw commercial flight go north on flight path of Citgo station and one police officer in south park saw a commerical flight not fighter jet go over Pentagon and over his head in south park.Also these 3 officers have been told to not talk to media since these interviews took place especially roosevelt cop in south park on the opposite side of explosion zone of pentagon.I would call that very interesting indeed.If not interesting it is convenient for the official line .


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭Di0genes


    patrickk wrote: »
    Very impressive listing but fact is there are police officers in this youtube video who all are 100% sure they saw commercial flight go north on flight path of Citgo station and one police officer in south park saw a commerical flight not fighter jet go over Pentagon and over his head in south park.Also these 3 officers have been told to not talk to media since these interviews took place especially roosevelt cop in south park on the opposite side of explosion zone of pentagon.I would call that very interesting indeed.If not interesting it is convenient for the official line .


    Yeah I'm more than familiar with the pentaconned team.
    It was just after 9:30 on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, and Walter, then a senior correspondent for USA Today Live, the newspaper's television division, was stuck in traffic across the street from the Pentagon, listening to National Public Radio updates about the terrorist attacks against New York's World Trade Center earlier that morning. He knew that if he didn't reach work soon, somebody else would get the choice assignment of flying to New York to cover the deadliest sneak attack on U.S. soil since Pearl Harbor. "I was getting upset because I was stuck," Walter says.
    He rolled down a window to get some fresh air. That's when he noticed the American Airlines passenger jet arcing down from the sky. "I saw the jet bank and watched as it dove down toward the Pentagon. . . . I saw it crash," he recalls. "It exploded. The wings folded back, and it went right into the Pentagon. All the people around me started panicking, and when everyone said it hit the Pentagon, it registered that it was another terrorist attack."
    Walter ran out of his car and waited for a USA Today photographer to show up to take pictures. Scattered pieces of wreckage lay strewn across the lawn and several light poles had been knocked down by the jet in a diagonal line pointing to the smoldering southwest wall of the building. "I saw pieces of the wreckage," he says. "There were people taking pictures of themselves with pieces of the wreckage. The next morning, I was interviewed by all the network shows."
    Those interviews made Walter probably the most well-known eyewitness to what happened at the Pentagon on 9/11, which is why, a little more than five years later, in November 2006, he found himself hosting a barbecue for a group of eager young men who were making Loose Change, a documentary about the terrorist attacks. After getting a telephone call from a self-described 9/11 researcher named Russell Pickering, Walter invited Pickering and Dylan Avery, the film's director, to his house in Fairfax, Virginia.
    They showed up with a couple of other people Walter had never spoken with: Craig Ranke, a fast talker with wild eyes, and Aldo Marquis, a heavyset guy who didn't talk much. The two said they were helping Avery and Pickering with research for their film. Walter chatted casually with the pair, and at one point, he realized that Ranke was surreptitiously tape-recording the conversation.
    That was weird, he thought. And increasingly, so was the conversation itself. Although Pickering and Avery seemed relatively normal, Ranke and Marquis appeared to be on a mission to prove that the Pentagon plane crash never happened. They wouldn't listen to anything that contradicted this notion.
    "I understand why people have certain feelings about this government," Walter says. "There are things this administration did that I'm not pleased with, but facts are facts. I was on the road that day and saw what I saw. The plane was in my line of sight. You could see the 'AA' on the tail. You knew it was American Airlines."
    Marquis and Ranke simply refused to believe Walter saw what he saw. "They were saying things like, 'Are you sure the plane didn't land [at Reagan airport] and they set off a bomb?' They kept coming up with all these scenarios.
    "Some of those guys [at the party] were young and nice and disaffected [about] their government," Walter concludes. "And some of them were crazy."






    Unfortunately, their film, The PentaCon, doesn't provide any evidence of this. What it does show is a series of interviews Ranke and Marquis have filmed over the past few years on location in Arlington, Virginia, usually within a stone's throw of the Pentagon building. They've interviewed Pentagon police officers, journalists, gas-station employees, local residents, a boat captain and several Arlington National Cemetery gravediggers, all of whom believe they witnessed an American Airlines jet crash into the Pentagon on Sept. 11, 2001.
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    The fact that all those eyewitnesses and many more believe they saw the jet hit the Pentagon—which happens to be both the official version of what happened that day as well as the accepted truth among most conspiracy theorists—doesn't bother Ranke and Marquis.

    If you actually watch the video and listen to the witness statements none of the people interviewed believe anything other than United 77 hit the Penatgon.
    Where some might find contradictory eyewitness accounts a normal outcome of an intense, traumatic event, Marquis and Ranke view any eyewitness statement placing the plane on the north side of the gas station as clear evidence that the NTSB data is phony and further proof that the military was behind 9/11. They seized on Lagasse's e-mail as a smoking gun. Marquis and Ranke interviewed the manager of the gas station while Avery and Pickering filmed background shots of the Pentagon from a small hill next to the gas station. The manager claimed that one of her employees, Robert Turcios, had also seen the plane on the north side of the station. Marquis and Ranke couldn't believe their ears.
    In the clip, Lagasse also makes repeated references to the fact that he saw the plane hit the Pentagon—and didn't see any plane fly away from the area. When reached at the Pentagon Force Protection Agency (PFPA)—the official name of the Pentagon police agency, where he's now a lieutenant—Lagasse groaned when he heard the names Craig Ranke and Aldo Marquis and said he couldn't comment without permission from a press officer.
    Chris Layman, a PFPA spokesman, said the agency now prohibits officers from speaking directly to the media, but he sent the Weekly a brief, written statement saying the Pentagon "was hit by American Airlines Flight 77 at 9:37 a.m., killing all 64 passengers and crew and 15 Pentagon employees," that the event was "witnessed by hundreds of people," and while some "have their own theories," the "facts have been verified and are clear."
    Marquis and Ranke also interviewed several Arlington National Cemetery employees after receiving permission to bring cameras to the facility. The cemetery is next to the Pentagon. In footage in The PentaCon, several employees state the plane was flying on the north side of the CITGO gas station. More important, all of them—who without exception believe the plane struck the Pentagon—claim the plane started to bank in the sky just before they saw the explosion. To the filmmakers, that banking motion, along with the plane's location north of the CITGO station, proves that the aircraft actually flew over the Pentagon, not into it.
    The Researcher's Edition of The PentaConalso includes an interview with Keith Wheelhouse, who was at Arlington National Cemetery on 9/11 to bury his brother-in-law. In the interview, Wheelhouse tells Marquis and Ranke that he saw an American Airlines jet crash into the Pentagon. He also claims to have seen a second plane that seemed to be shadowing the first one. But Marquis and Ranke apparently don't believe Wheelhouse saw the crash because, their film notes, a line of trees partially obscures the view of the building from the location where he claimed to have been standing.
    Another witness Marquis and Ranke suspect is part of a deliberate disinformation campaign to trick people into thinking the plane that actually flew over the building at the precise moment someone ignited an explosion was actually a second plane shadowing the phantom American Airlines jet.
    USA Todayeditor Joel Sucherman backs the second-plane claim and also appears in The PentaCon. "I'm very confident that what I saw was a jet passenger airplane, silver, the 'AA' on the tail," he says, adding that he also saw a second plane that was "much higher in the sky than the passenger jet was."
    Also included in the film is a tape-recorded telephone call with USA Today reporter Vin Narayanan. "Yeah, there was another plane off in the distance," Narayanan says. "It was a jet; it was definitely a jet."
    * * *

    How witnesses who saw a second plane high in the skies above the Pentagon could possibly be part of a conspiracy to fool the public into thinking that a plane that nobody saw fly over the Pentagon actually crashed into a building is a question that is as ridiculously convoluted and inherently illogical as the very theory embraced by Marquis and Ranke. In fact, other than a few interesting interviews with people who saw a plane fly on one side of a gas station when the official data places it on the other, ThePentaCon includes no evidence of anything whatsoever, just a lot of questions and innuendo set to an ominous hip-hop beat.
    Among the "suspicious coincidences" that Ranke and Marquis have "exposed," none is as instructive as the fact that several USA Today employees—Walter, Sucherman and Narayanan, to name a few—rank among the "supposed" eyewitnesses to the Pentagon plane crash. The obvious fact that so many USA Today workers were near the Pentagon that morning because they drive past the building on their way to work every morning is something that apparently doesn't impress the Citizen Investigation Team.

    http://www.ocweekly.com/2008-08-14/features/pentaconned/1


    A pair of delusional conceited idiots.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,771 ✭✭✭Dude111


    104 directly saw the plane hit the Pentagon.
    HOW MANY OF THOSE WERE PAID WITNESSES?? (I reckon almost all of them)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,705 ✭✭✭thebiglad


    Dude111 wrote: »
    HOW MANY OF THOSE WERE PAID WITNESSES?? (I reckon almost all of them)
    Perhaps someone should check whether all 104 have since died in suspicious circumstances.

    Wouldn't be a cover up with 104 potential leaks able to walk around:p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭fontanalis


    Dude111 wrote: »
    HOW MANY OF THOSE WERE PAID WITNESSES?? (I reckon almost all of them)

    I "reckon" you should go into crime fighting. Old murders would be solved in an instant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    A little less of the sarky comments, please.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 240 ✭✭patrickk


    Di0genes wrote: »
    Yeah I'm more than familiar with the pentaconned team.








    If you actually watch the video and listen to the witness statements none of the people interviewed believe anything other than United 77 hit the Penatgon.







    http://www.ocweekly.com/2008-08-14/features/pentaconned/1


    A pair of delusional conceited idiots.

    they might have believed it hit the pentagon but didnt see it hit because they had natural reaction of turning their back on Pentagon and run away in those last few seconds .The irrefutable witness is police officer in the south park who he said defintely saw a commercial liner just fly over the pentagon noone can take that witness apart .All it takes sometimes in life is one witness to seal an argument and that police officer is only one who has come forward with that sighting .I doubt if he was seeing things very hard to mix up a fighter get with a commerical airline slight bit bigger I would think .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,672 ✭✭✭seannash



    Only minutes after the strike, a television reporter says there is nothing to indicate a plane struck the Pentagon.


    i really hate when people throw this out there.what you watched was an edited version of the full report.

    he was reporting on the claim of an eye witness saw it land short of the pentagon.


    here is the full report which shows the full context of the report



    early in the report he says he saw alot of debris too.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭Di0genes


    patrickk wrote: »
    they might have believed it hit the pentagon but didnt see it hit because they had natural reaction of turning their back on Pentagon and run away in those last few seconds .

    Thats pure speculation on your part.
    The irrefutable witness is police officer in the south park who he said defintely saw a commercial liner just fly over the pentagon noone can take that witness apart .

    Except er the police officer himself.
    In the clip, Lagasse also makes repeated references to the fact that he saw the plane hit the Pentagon—

    All it takes sometimes in life is one witness to seal an argument

    So all the witnesses are wrong except the one that agrees with you and even he's wrong.

    and that police officer is only one who has come forward with that sighting .I doubt if he was seeing things very hard to mix up a fighter get with a commerical airline slight bit bigger I would think .

    Yeah. Because the plane flew so low it clipped light posts over an eiht lane freeway packed with morning commuters.

    Hence we know it was a 737

    flight-path.jpg


    fighter jets don't have the wing span of a 737 so it could not have done the damage created by United 77.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    patrickk wrote: »
    they might have believed it hit the pentagon but didnt see it hit because they had natural reaction of turning their back on Pentagon and run away in those last few seconds .The irrefutable witness is police officer in the south park who he said defintely saw a commercial liner just fly over the pentagon noone can take that witness apart .All it takes sometimes in life is one witness to seal an argument and that police officer is only one who has come forward with that sighting .I doubt if he was seeing things very hard to mix up a fighter get with a commerical airline slight bit bigger I would think .
    That's a bit of an odd conclusion. Lots of people say they say the plane hit, but can't be trusted. 1 says he saw that it didn't hit and must be telling the truth. Why is is more likely that over 100 people are lying/wrong, and 1 must telling the truth?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


    humanji wrote: »
    That's a bit of an odd conclusion. Lots of people say they say the plane hit, but can't be trusted. 1 says he saw that it didn't hit and must be telling the truth. Why is is more likely that over 100 people are lying/wrong, and 1 must telling the truth?

    100 are likely to be either bought off or scared off,while always will be one who wont :p


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭Di0genes


    caseyann wrote: »
    100 are likely to be either bought off or scared off,while always will be one who wont :p
    You mean the one who publicly stated in the interview he thought a plane hit the pentagon. Doh!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭TalkieWalkie


    Here is the truth.. flightpath, poles, the lot. Other 7 parts on YT



    Or Full 121 minutes. 200,000 views in 15 or so days



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭PirateShampoo


    That video is completely flawed.

    Few issues off the top of my head.

    1, it compares non comparable crashes as an example for the pentagon crash. How is a aircraft that skidded off a run way comparable to 1 that slammed into a building.

    2, have you any idea how much metal is in a aircraft engine? Its a jet engine there is hardly any weight in them yet tries to say that they didn't cause enough damage. Of course they didn't, they would of disintegrated on impact.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭PirateShampoo


    Or Full 121 minutes. 200,000 views in 15 or so days

    July 15 2009


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭TalkieWalkie


    That video is completely flawed.

    Few issues off the top of my head.

    1, it compares non comparable crashes as an example for the pentagon crash. How is a aircraft that skidded off a run way comparable to 1 that slammed into a building.

    2, have you any idea how much metal is in a aircraft engine? Its a jet engine there is hardly any weight in them yet tries to say that they didn't cause enough damage. Of course they didn't, they would of disintegrated on impact.

    A 121 minute is "completely flawed" because of your 2 flawed points ? lmfao


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭PirateShampoo


    A 121 minute is "completely flawed" because of your 2 flawed points ? lmfao


    Yes, if he is selling me bull**** in the first 5 mins then why would i continue to watch the other 116 minutes?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭TalkieWalkie


    Yes, if he is selling me bull**** in the first 5 mins then why would i continue to watch the other 116 minutes?

    Best stick to the unflawed official version then:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,283 ✭✭✭rameire


    everything is flawed as its only 81 min.

    🌞 3.8kwp, 🌞 Clonee, Dub.🌞



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭Di0genes


    Best stick to the unflawed official version then:rolleyes:


    Perhaps as a courtesy you could lay out what you feel are the flaws in the United 77 crashes into the pentagon. Not (sic) "unflawed" just the flaws.

    Please don't link up yet another video, but please explain exactly what you feel are the flaws in the "official" version.


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭Di0genes



    The word Talkie Walkie is looking for is "flawless".

    Perhaps instead of engaging in tedious pedantry you could actually point out the "flaws" in the idea that United 77 hit the pentagon.

    That'd require you to up your game from insinuations about jews though I suppose.


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Di0genes wrote: »
    The word Talkie Walkie is looking for is "flawless".
    :D
    Unflawed and flawless mean the same thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭TalkieWalkie


    Di0genes wrote: »
    Perhaps as a courtesy you could lay out what you feel are the flaws in the United 77 crashes into the pentagon. Not (sic) "unflawed" just the flaws.

    Please don't link up yet another video, but please explain exactly what you feel are the flaws in the "official" version.

    I am not out to convince anyone of what I think happened, I have given up on that. And that goes for all CT's I am just here to share information for all of us to benefit and all hopefully arrive at the truth. As you asked so nicely though, I'll give my thoughts one more time.

    It is so blatantly obvious to me it was an inside job and the main reason for this is that history does indeed repeat itself. It's happened before and will inevitably happen again.
    Avoiding everything else that happened that day.... Take a look at the thread on American false flag wars, most if not all wars/invasions America has ever been involved in have been false flag and if you don't agree with that FACT then you must at least agree to some of them as they are common knowledge. We know very well what they are capable of
    Look at what happened since 911, the invasions of Afgan and Iraq all based on more lies that have been proven to be lies, again and again. Resulting in the slaughter of millions of innocent lives !!

    Would you suggest they they are capable of doing something like this but the evidence suggests that they didn't do it this time ? :rolleyes:

    Can you honestly say you take the word of or trust the Elites "official version" of anything, knowing what they are capable from history ?

    Obviously the impact hole, 16 feet across, it's to small, no impact marks from the wings or engines or vertical stabilizer and no drag marks on the ground from the belly of the plane or the engines.
    These points alone should cause everyone to question the original version.

    Why would they not shoot down a plane that was heading toward the pentagon ? (please don't give me the answer that you hears from the proven liars).

    Why don't they release the footage from the plane hitting the pentagon ? again.. (please don't give me the answer that you hears from the proven liars)

    We know the part that the part of the pentagon that was hit was conveniently under construction at the time, meaning there far less staff in that area at the time. Isn't that nice... My point being, It would have been simple to place parts of a plane inside that part of the building prior to the missile striking.


    You posted something on page 1 about 140 witnesses this that and the other. Well, where are they ? it's just words, excel or not.
    This video I posted a while ago contains actual witness, police men, pilots etc making their statements on film. Many individuals who don't know each other and all their versions are the same.

    Why not watch it ? How can you make an informed judgement without looking at all the evidence ???

    The simple answer is... you cant, and you shouldnt try.

    I find it hard to believe that you come here only to try debunk some of these theories. If that were the fact.. I would think it quite sad.
    No, you are here for truth but the truth seems so scary to you so you are desperately trying to come up with ways to avoid facing up to it which is quite sad too but at least you are on the right path.

    Good luck

    Unflawlessness


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭Di0genes



    Obviously the impact hole, 16 feet across, it's to small, no impact marks from the wings or engines or vertical stabilizer and no drag marks on the ground from the belly of the plane or the engines.

    There are. One wing even hit a generator on the lawn outside the pentagon.
    Why would they not shoot down a plane that was heading toward the pentagon ? (please don't give me the answer that you hears from the proven liars).

    How? The Pentagon has been equipped with missile and anti aircraft defences exactly twice. During the Cuban Missile Crisis and on the anniversary of 9/11 on 09/11/02.
    Why don't they release the footage from the plane hitting the pentagon ? again.. (please don't give me the answer that you hears from the proven liars)

    What footage? Why exactly are you convinced the footage would have contained footage of the plan.

    We know the part that the part of the pentagon that was hit was conveniently under construction at the time, meaning there far less staff in that area at the time. Isn't that nice...

    What are the odds of them hitting that side?Ohhhh say one in five?
    My point being, It would have been simple to place parts of a plane inside that part of the building prior to the missile striking.

    So they blew up the plane. Before 9/11 And then painstakingly placed debris, body parts, DNA evidence etc, around the building and none of the thousands of people who work in the building didn't notice.

    You posted something on page 1 about 140 witnesses this that and the other. Well, where are they ? it's just words, excel or not.


    The document links to the original sources. Indeed theres another witness at least a friend of mind e-mailed me on 12/01 she was stuck on traffic and witnessed the plane crash.

    Do you understand how would it work? How could they fake a 737 flying across a 8 lane freeway at 9am?
    This video I posted a while ago contains actual witness, police men, pilots etc making their statements on film. Many individuals who don't know each other and all their versions are the same.

    All of whom think a plane hit the pentagon, miss that part?
    Why not watch it ? How can you make an informed judgement without looking at all the evidence ???

    I watched it several years ago. It's been around awhile. It's nonsense.
    The simple answer is... you cant, and you shouldnt try.

    Oh diddums.

    I find it hard to believe that you come here only to try debunk some of these theories. If that were the fact.. I would think it quite sad.
    No, you are here for truth but the truth seems so scary to you so you are desperately trying to come up with ways to avoid facing up to it which is quite sad too but at least you are on the right path.

    Good luck

    Unflawlessness


    Thats pretty desperate going for the pity and sneering attitude towards people who mock the pentacon.


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    Why would they not shoot down a plane that was heading toward the pentagon ? (please don't give me the answer that you hears from the proven liars).

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    Could you tell us what that large gray area just to the south south east. of the pentagon is?
    The one with the runway pointed in the direction of the Pentagon?


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    Di0genes wrote: »
    There are. One wing even hit a generator on the lawn outside the pentagon.

    No it didn't.
    Di0genes wrote: »
    How? The Pentagon has been equipped with missile and anti aircraft defences exactly twice. During the Cuban Missile Crisis and on the anniversary of 9/11 on 09/11/02.

    They could have shot it down from fighter jets. If they werent off on a training mission that day :rolleyes:
    Di0genes wrote: »
    What footage? Why exactly are you convinced the footage would have contained footage of the plan.

    They admitted to having the footage but in the interest of national security they cant release it. :rolleyes:
    Di0genes wrote: »
    What are the odds of them hitting that side?Ohhhh say one in five?

    :rolleyes:
    Di0genes wrote: »
    So they blew up the plane. Before 9/11 And then painstakingly placed debris, body parts, DNA evidence etc, around the building and none of the thousands of people who work in the building didn't notice.

    It could have been at out of service plane. DNA can easily and had been before, falsified. They say they have DNA evidence ? have you seen it t? they are proven liars remember :rolleyes:
    Di0genes wrote: »
    The document links to the original sources. Indeed theres another witness at least a friend of mind e-mailed me on 12/01 she was stuck on traffic and witnessed the plane crash.


    She witness a plane and a crash. She was most likely threatned. :rolleyes:
    Di0genes wrote: »
    Do you understand how would it work? How could they fake a 737 flying across a 8 lane freeway at 9am?


    If you did actually watch the documentary you stated you did, you would know that there was indeed a plane there. I have stated this. Did you just lie when you said you watched it ? :rolleyes:
    Di0genes wrote: »
    All of whom think a plane hit the pentagon, miss that part?

    THINK :rolleyes:
    Di0genes wrote: »
    I watched it several years ago. It's been around awhile. It's nonsense.

    There's the LIE
    Di0genes wrote: »
    Oh diddums.

    Indeed

    Di0genes wrote: »
    Thats pretty desperate going for the pity and sneering attitude towards people who mock the pentacon.

    Thats pretty desperate cohersing a moderator to come along and give out to me :rolleyes:


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