Where to go for shoulder problem

discombobulate

I had a fall in January and damaged my shoulder. I've been for a couple of physio sessions and was given exercises to do which I did but they have made no difference.

Its muscle rather than bone damage and colapses when I try to bench or shoulder press or do anything in the motion range in between.

I'm not looking for any medical advice as per the rules here but was wondering if anyone would have an idea of where I could go to have this looked at properly or recommend anyone they have been to.

Thanks

brianthebard

How long have you been doing/going to the physio sessions and do you do them every day/as prescribed?
If you're not happy with your treatment either tell your physio or if you don't have confidence in them start back at your gp, ask what are your options regards mri, recommending a new physio, etc.

beagle001

I had a shoulder problem 2 years ago all muscular based and it took a full year to recover from it.
I did not do any physio but had good advice from family etc who had a similar ailment.
I found the bench press and shoulder press actually worsened the problem and I was unable to sleep on it after a session.
My advice is rest as much as possible,consult a gym instructor to show you exercises to build up around the shoulder and continue stretching it regularly,low intensity swimming is good also.

discombobulate

I only went for 2 physio sessions. The first I was given exercises to do and took 35 mins for €60. The second took less than half an hour for the €60 which was meant to be for an hour so didn't bother going back. That was nearly 3 months ago now and she said doing the exercises it should be better within a month.

I went back on some weights last week. I was able to deadlift and barbell row as well as isolation exercises on biceps, ab work and can do pretty much all leg work. Its pretty much anything that brings the triceps into play that I struggle with. I can do a few push ups before the arm just gives way but only did this once as I felt was probably going to do more harm than good.

TommyKnocker

I am going to endorse what Brianthebard has said.

I can give you the name of a good physio who is based in Dun Laoghaire. PM me for details if you want them.

Also I believe there is a sports injury clinic in Santry somewhere, which although I have never attended apparenly has a good reputation.

There is also O'Neills sports injury clinic. They provide services at both DCU and UCD and used to have a premises on Dorset St I think.

Just a few options to consider.


N.B. I would not be taking advice on shoulder rehabilitation exercises from a gym instructor. I would only take this kind of advice from a trained medical professional

Best Regards,

M

discombobulate

Dun Laoighaire is a bit far out for me but will look into the one in UCD. Kind of limited to places open after 6 as well which can be a problem.

Somewhere in Dublin 2 or 6 would be ideal for me. To be honest I don't trust GP's or standard doctors when it comes to this kind of thing. The doctor in A & E told me I should be back to normal after 1-2 months, didn't spot a crack in my shoulder and ribs until sent to a specialist and sent me off without a sling which I was then told I should have been using.

Also don't want to walk into a GP hand him another €60 and be told to go to a physio.

Going to look into that place in Dorset Street. Thanks

TommyKnocker

I live around the Donaghmeade area myself, but IMHO the guy in Dun Laoghaire is so good that I have no problem traveling when I require treatment.

Also there is no clock watching and his fees are fair again IMHO.


Best Regards,

M

discombobulate

B-Builder wrote: »

I live around the Donaghmeade area myself, but IMHO the guy in Dun Laoghaire is so good that I have no problem traveling when I require treatment.

Also there is no clock watching and his fees are fair again IMHO.


Best Regards,

M

Do you know what his operating hours are? And how much does he charge? Thanks

TommyKnocker

discombobulate wrote: »

Do you know what his operating hours are? And how much does he charge? Thanks

Hours wise he can be fairly flexible and cost wise it will depend how long treatment takes. However €60/hr is probably about right but it will a full hour or a little more.

I will send you his details via PM and you can give him a call. Can't hurt to ask right?


Best Regards,

M

discombobulate

That'd be great if you could send them details on. Thanks

TommyKnocker

PM Sent


M

beagle001

Actually B-Builder,it was the gym instructor in my gym that sorted me out with exercises which eventually helped me recover.
The notion that only trained over priced physicians can give genuine advice is nonsense.
Plenty of gym instructors are well trained and if you trust one who has a good knowledge of the muscular groups then I do not see the harm in asking or investigating his problem,frankly I find it a bit snobbish to totally dismiss it.

cardio,shoot me

beagle001 wrote: »

Actually B-Builder,it was the gym instructor in my gym that sorted me out with exercises which eventually helped me recover.
The notion that only trained over priced physicians can give genuine advice is nonsense.
Plenty of gym instructors are well trained and if you trust one who has a good knowledge of the muscular groups then I do not see the harm in asking or investigating his problem,frankly I find it a bit snobbish to totally dismiss it.

i have a fairly decent idea what type of exercises he will be reccomended, but it only takes me to mention one for him to fck up his shoulder, theres a reason that they specialise in that area, everyone is different, what worked for the other person that came to the PT might harm this person.

TommyKnocker

beagle001 wrote: »

Actually B-Builder,it was the gym instructor in my gym that sorted me out with exercises which eventually helped me recover.
The notion that only trained over priced physicians can give genuine advice is nonsense.
Plenty of gym instructors are well trained and if you trust one who has a good knowledge of the muscular groups then I do not see the harm in asking or investigating his problem,frankly I find it a bit snobbish to totally dismiss it.

Hi beagle001

Frankly I have no problem if you take injury rehab advice from a PT in your gym. And that he helped you overcome an injury, that's great.

However personally speaking, as I am an active person, if I ever have an injury that requiries attention, I will only visit a trained and qualified profesional who understands the injury and who can help me get back training as quickly as possible. So this will either be a physio (I am lucky here as I know of 2 highly competent physio's) or a sports doctor (who specifically deals with sports injuries), not just any general GP.

I don't see this as snobbish in any way. I see it as common sense. What happens if a PT (who has absolutely no diagnostic skill) gives incorrect advice and causes more damage to the injured part? I doubt that the gyms insurance will cover you as I would expect they would not stand over the PT if he was not hired for his sports injury treatment skills. So unless he has his own personal insurance, you are left funding any and all treatments which may be necessary to resolve the issue.

Going to an unqualified person for advice on injury rehab could end up being penny wise and pound foolish along with possibly taking longer to get back active again.


Best Regards,

M

Transform

B-Builder wrote: »

Hi beagle001

Frankly I have no problem if you take injury rehab advice from a PT in your gym. And that he helped you overcome an injury, that's great.

However personally speaking, as I am an active person, if I ever have an injury that requiries attention, I will only visit a trained and qualified profesional who understands the injury and who can help me get back training as quickly as possible. So this will either be a physio (I am lucky here as I know of 2 highly competent physio's) or a sports doctor (who specifically deals with sports injuries), not just any general GP.

I don't see this as snobbish in any way. I see it as common sense. What happens if a PT (who has absolutely no diagnostic skill) gives incorrect advice and causes more damage to the injured part? I doubt that the gyms insurance will cover you as I would expect they would not stand over the PT if he was not hired for his sports injury treatment skills. So unless he has his own personal insurance, you are left funding any and all treatments which may be necessary to resolve the issue.

Going to an unqualified person for advice on injury rehab could end up being penny wise and pound foolish along with possibly taking longer to get back active again.


Best Regards,

M

i agree and i work closely with two of the best physical therapists i know and it really helps to give clients a complete approach to any recovery from injury.

Plenty of good therapists out there you just have to ask

beagle001

I understand the necessity of qualified personnel in society I have a medical background in my family and I have access to very good physio therapists if it was required.
In the case of consulting a gym instructor if you know the person and they have a good knowledge of physiology as the instructor in my gym has it does no harm to ask advice.
The op had no luck with his physio and was out of pocket as a result,I am also a very active person and will research any advice someone gives me regarding exercise or strength recovery.