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Large people 2 tickets.

  • 19-06-2010 09:50PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,736 ✭✭✭


    http://www.airfarewatchdog.com/blog/3802082/ryanair-proposes-surcharge-for-fat-passengers/

    I'm a big bloke myself. not huge, like 6'3" 200 pounds. I get the bus a lot and flights at least once a year. but a while ago Ryanair found themselves in trouble when they charged a women for 2 seats because she was obese. Needless to say she won the case on a discrimination basis and was awarded a small fortune. No we've all been on flights where a huge S.O.B. sat beside us and the armrest has to stay up and/or they're sitting on at least half your seat and you. So if someone very big gets on a bus or plane should they not have to pay double since they take up another seat that could be used by another paying customer. Like they give kids under 2 free seats because they most likely be sitting on their mother/father laps for the duration and not taking up the seat.

    So in my opinion when getting a bus or a train or on a flight they should have to pay for the extra seat they take up.

    I KNOW PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET ON ABOUT UNFAIR TREATMENT BUT THEY PAY MORE FOR LARGER SIZE CLOTHES ETC. ITS BLATENTLY OBVIOUS THAT THEY TAKE UP 2 SEATS AND SHOULD THEY NOT BE CONSIDERED TO BE COSTING A COMPANY MONEY BECAUSE THEY TAKE UP THE EXTRA ROOM.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,234 ✭✭✭thetonynator


    Having read the OP 3 times, I understand what you're saying, but what are we supposed to discuss about it??? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,736 ✭✭✭Gannicus


    Having read the OP 3 times, I understand what you're saying, but what are we supposed to discuss about it??? :confused:

    I'm putting it out there to see what way people think or if a large number of people agree with me because of the way that peoples health are getting worse and worse in the developed world it might actually become an issue


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,597 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    If a person has health problems and cant do much about their weight they are people I fell sorry for.

    Bu if person weighs 300 pounds and has bag at 15kg then why should person who weighs 150 pounds and has bag just 1kg over bag limit have pay extra to carry weight onto the plane.

    Stupid and unfair imo

    EVENFLOW



  • Subscribers Posts: 16,736 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    nothing worse that that dreadful sense of terror you feel when you see someone massive lumbering toward you, knowing if they sit beside you you'll only get half the small bit of room you are entitled too.

    (although the relief when some other poor fecker is the actual victim is pretty nice).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭Coriolanus


    Just install bigger seats. That way they have enough room without crowding people, and the slimmer people get loads more room!

    Oh wait, that would probably mean cutting back on the six figure bonuses for the execs. Can't be having that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,969 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Or just discriminate against a class of people, many of whom may simply be unable to control their weight due to emotional or hereditary reasons

    The OP mentioned a discrimination cases.
    If the person has a genuine issue (maybe like above) I suppose it can be medically certified and any airline surcharge wouldn't apply.

    But realy, that's only a minor percentage of people who are obese


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    O'Leary already has an issue with some people who take liberties with their weigt allocation ..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,234 ✭✭✭thetonynator


    The OP mentioned a discrimination cases.
    If the person has a genuine issue (maybe like above) I suppose it can be medically certified and any airline surcharge wouldn't apply.

    But realy, that's only a minor percentage of people who are obese


    Yeah but in this country, everyone is related to someone who knows someone whos a doctor and can give you the cert.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,234 ✭✭✭thetonynator


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    O'Leary already has an issue with some people who take liberties with their weigt allocation ..


    Don't be ridiiculous. Thats not a ryanair plane, theres a television in it!!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭tommyhaas


    Nevore wrote: »
    Just install bigger seats. That way they have enough room without crowding people, and the slimmer people get loads more room!

    Oh wait, that would probably mean cutting back on the six figure bonuses for the execs. Can't be having that.

    It would also cut down on the number of seats they can fit in a plane, hence a higher fare for everyone...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,736 ✭✭✭Gannicus


    The OP mentioned a discrimination cases.
    If the person has a genuine issue (maybe like above) I suppose it can be medically certified and any airline surcharge wouldn't apply.

    But realy, that's only a minor percentage of people who are obese

    No its everyone or no-one. Regardless of medical or emotional issues
    they should still have to pay you're still taking 2 seats at the end of the day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭Coriolanus


    tommyhaas wrote: »
    It would also cut down on the number of seats they can fit in a plane, hence a higher fare for everyone...
    Psh, don't try to use your logic here. This is AH. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,222 ✭✭✭robbie_998


    Don't be ridiiculous. Thats not a ryanair plane, theres a television in it!!!

    i see 3 tv's


    and ok for planes i agree if your gonna take up that seat then pay for it.

    for bus's like Dublin bus... no.. bus eireann seat booking - yes

    irish rail seat booking - yes.

    Cinema taking up two seats then yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭TheTosh


    One of my fears when flying especially to America is being stuck in the middle seat with 2 big fat b*stards either side of me just like the Foo Fighters video


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Nevore wrote: »
    Just install bigger seats. That way they have enough room without crowding people, and the slimmer people get loads more room!

    Oh wait, that would probably mean cutting back on the six figure bonuses for the execs. Can't be having that.

    Why would an executive not be worth a six figure salary? Should they be on 30k?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,659 ✭✭✭unknown13


    I pay for a seat and I have room within the seat, there is no reason why someone should take that off me particularly if they are overweight.

    Then again take that extra room off me. Ryanair would if they could.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,423 ✭✭✭tinkerbell


    If I pay for my seat, then there's no way that a fat person sitting beside me should be able to take up half my seat just because they were too busy eating 100 meals a day making themselves that fat.

    It's ridiculous - especially on airplanes. If you are too fat, then either (a) lose the weight so you can fit into one seat or else (b) pay for the god damn extra ticket. Other people sitting beside you shouldn't have to suffer just because you can't keep your weight in line.

    Sorry, don't mean to be harsh but this sort of thing really irritates me.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,835 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    copacetic wrote: »
    nothing worse that that dreadful sense of terror you feel when you see someone massive lumbering toward you, knowing if they sit beside you you'll only get half the small bit of room you are entitled too.
    Indeed!

    This thread seems to focus on the rights (or abuse) of large people, rather than rest of us? I workout daily, I'm tall and thin, and refuse to raise the arm rest. If someone overweight for any reason, medical or otherwise, cannot fit in the seat next to me without raising the arm rest (and overflowing into my seat), the airlines should either move them, or allow me to move, even if it costs them a business or first class seat to accommodate someone without additional charges for upgrade.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,473 ✭✭✭R0ot


    Fatties shouldn't fly.

    On serious note, it's simple maths if you take up the better part of two seats you should pay for two seats!


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  • Subscribers Posts: 16,736 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    Indeed!

    This thread seems to focus on the rights (or abuse) of large people, rather than rest of us? I workout daily, I'm tall and thin, and refuse to raise the arm rest. If someone overweight for any reason, medical or otherwise, cannot fit in the seat next to me without raising the arm rest (and overflowing into my seat), the airlines should either move them, or allow me to move, even if it costs them a business or first class seat to accommodate someone without additional charges for upgrade.

    but what about the ones who overflow over and under the arm rest even when you don't raise it!!! eaughhh!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,835 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    copacetic wrote: »
    but what about the ones who overflow over and under the arm rest even when you don't raise it!!! eaughhh!
    Indeed, but at least a part of the flow is barricaded. I've had words with an over weight passenger that insisted on raising the arm rest, which resulted in the flight attendant moving me to a vacant business class seat from economy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,088 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    Nevore wrote: »
    Just install bigger seats. That way they have enough room without crowding people, and the slimmer people get loads more room!

    Oh wait, that would probably mean cutting back on the six figure bonuses for the execs. Can't be having that.
    tommyhaas wrote: »
    It would also cut down on the number of seats they can fit in a plane, hence a higher fare for everyone...

    That's the exact conversation I had with myself when I read the topic first (that's when there was no replies too!).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭Chuchoter


    Yes they should. And another thing, a size 18 should cost more than a size 6. I always find it unfair they cost the same, maybe I'm just being a bitch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,554 ✭✭✭✭alwaysadub


    mars bar wrote: »
    That's the exact conversation I had with myself when I read the topic first (that's when there was no replies too!).

    You know there are professionals out there to help with them problems:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,088 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    Yes they should. And another thing, a size 18 should cost more than a size 6. I always find it unfair they cost the same, maybe I'm just being a bitch.

    If you're a size six, you should probably be spending more money on food.
    alwaysadub wrote: »
    You know there are professionals out there to help with them problems:pac:

    :D


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,115 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    robbie_998 wrote: »
    i see 3 tv's

    Oh do you now

    drugs thread that way
    >


  • Subscribers Posts: 16,736 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    Oh do you now

    drugs thread that way
    >

    eyes bump of edge of screen, back to arrow, shakes head, edge of screen, back to arrow...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭tony1kenobi


    If a person has health problems and cant do much about their weight they are people I fell sorry for.

    Don't feel sorry for them....they live in a world where unicorns and fairy dust is real.......


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,115 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Perfect plan, you found the last legal drug, now get dizzy amigo


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