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How did DCG go for ya???

  • 18-06-2010 4:23pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 115 ✭✭


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭Rossie17


    Was it just me or was that goegraphical goemetry far too easy... I hope I didnt make a mistake...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 115 ✭✭user12


    I only got part A of it but I thought that was dead easy!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 115 ✭✭user12


    I was abit annoyed that the triangle question was changed dramaticalll! :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭Rossie17


    Oh yeah, I got two separate lines for that. I think it was a simply inclined plane?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 515 ✭✭✭Cormac2791


    ****. ****. ****. Bastid. Bollox...

    Yep, I'm sure I did ****e! Got two questions almost fully out, part a of geographic geometry, 2.5 short questions, and just started b2 :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 233 ✭✭KealanOCarroll


    The tersecting planes were ABC and ABD so the line of intersection was AB....jus look perpendicular to it in plan, then along it and it gave dihedral angle (was around 160 r 170 degrees)

    The hyperbolic parabaloid was píss easy...the woman with the hat one....dead simple!

    The interpenetration took about 15mins....didn't even need an auxiliary!

    Geologica Geometry was easy....given the strike, dip took 2 or 3 mins to get, then jus measure 25mm away and draw another parallel line which gives the footwall....thickness of the stratum was just the shortest dist between headwall and footwall...

    Parabola in section A was dead simple, Oblique plane in section A was straightforward....

    ...finished over an hour early....reckon I got a solid A anyway:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭UpTheSlashers


    Pretty Tricky. I wonder how much Aviva paid the SEC for that question :p
    What did ye get for the thicnkess in geologic geometry? Roughly 40 or 50 mm?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 806 ✭✭✭Niall09


    Couldn't have gone better tbh. I think the only thing i didn't do great was getting the vertical and horizontal traces in the planes question. Depending on how good my project is, i could possibly get an A1! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭UpTheSlashers


    I officially hate anyone who thought it was easy. No offence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭Rossie17


    To get the dip what did you guys do... I just extended the strike and the points as a single line. Found the dip. Then I marked 25 back from f and found the perpendicular distance. That was too easy I hope I didnt miss something?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭Conor108


    Thought the Dynamic mechanisms was grand but jesus the assembly! I just couldn't picture what went where....Ended up drawing components randomly :D:D I'll lose marks for positioning I know...

    Anyone remember what angle they got for the cut plane yoke in Sec A?

    I'd be very, very happy to pass


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 575 ✭✭✭IrishKev


    The tersecting planes were ABC and ABD so the line of intersection was AB....jus look perpendicular to it in plan, then along it and it gave dihedral angle (was around 160 r 170 degrees)

    The hyperbolic parabaloid was píss easy...the woman with the hat one....dead simple!

    The interpenetration took about 15mins....didn't even need an auxiliary!

    Geologica Geometry was easy....given the strike, dip took 2 or 3 mins to get, then jus measure 25mm away and draw another parallel line which gives the footwall....thickness of the stratum was just the shortest dist between headwall and footwall...

    Parabola in section A was dead simple, Oblique plane in section A was straightforward....

    ...finished over an hour early....reckon I got a solid A anyway:D

    There wasn't an interpenetration, or I hope there wasn't anyway cos I was banking on it! Other than that I was very happy with the paper, Roads was easy and planes was grand aswell, did all of Section B but 2 of those q's weren't learnt by me so I'll lose some marks there. Overall it was a lot better than expected! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭Rossie17


    You had to find the angle? **** I must have missed that bit I just drew the object cut in plan + elevation..


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 119 ✭✭CantStandMeNow


    The tersecting planes were ABC and ABD so the line of intersection was AB....jus look perpendicular to it in plan, then along it and it gave dihedral angle (was around 160 r 170 degrees)

    The hyperbolic parabaloid was píss easy...the woman with the hat one....dead simple!

    The interpenetration took about 15mins....didn't even need an auxiliary!

    Geologica Geometry was easy....given the strike, dip took 2 or 3 mins to get, then jus measure 25mm away and draw another parallel line which gives the footwall....thickness of the stratum was just the shortest dist between headwall and footwall...

    Parabola in section A was dead simple, Oblique plane in section A was straightforward....

    ...finished over an hour early....reckon I got a solid A anyway:D

    There was no interpenetration was there:confused:?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭domrush


    45 degrees, They'll give anything between 40 and 50 degrees


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭mahonykid


    user12 wrote: »
    I was abit annoyed that the triangle question was changed dramaticalll! :(


    the only difference was that u were given the line of intersection this year as opposed to having to find it last year. my dihedral angle was about 165-170 degrees:P awesome test overall:P:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭johnmcdnl


    Rossie17 wrote: »
    Was it just me or was that goegraphical goemetry far too easy... I hope I didnt make a mistake...

    how big was the semicircle supposed to be.. i guessed 10mm... other than that it was really easy.. the rising road part was all embankments so it was just 10mm apart the whole way across and that was it..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 814 ✭✭✭JerCotter7


    There was no interpenetration was there:confused:?

    Not in B anyway. Also this year was a lot easier than last year. Hopefully they mark the projects harder to make up for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭mahonykid


    johnmcdnl wrote: »
    how big was the semicircle supposed to be.. i guessed 10mm... other than that it was really easy.. the rising road part was all embankments so it was just 10mm apart the whole way across and that was it..


    ya i did 10 too it was right :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11 mmmmmmmKayyyy


    Yeah grandest.. For the hyperbollic parabaloid (hat) question, did anyone else get the horizontal trace parallel to BC? If not, how did you do it? ha:pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,900 ✭✭✭Eire-Dearg


    Can't believe how easy it was.

    Section C was piss easy. We've been doing those hard surface geometry Qs out of the Folens books and this was ten times easier, plus our teacher just went over it this morning in due time.

    Road and mining was a little weird, why did the division of lines one of the lines on the triangle?

    The perspective was tricky but I think I got it completely right, aux VPs and all!

    The one thing I didn't get was the last part of the planes one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭mahonykid


    Yeah grandest.. For the hyperbollic parabaloid (hat) question, did anyone else get the horizontal trace parallel to BC? If not, how did you do it? ha:pac:


    ya it was meant to be parralel to bc you have it so that it contains ad then bring it over to contain bc extend it ti touch the gound line and bring it straight up and bring B on elevation across to touch it ( thats your point on vertical trace) then just join wher ad touches the gound line to that point and there u have it


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 119 ✭✭CantStandMeNow


    Was easy apart from the assembly was fairy horrible..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭mahonykid


    Was easy apart from the assembly was fairy horrible..


    assembly looked aweful alrite ...avoided it like the plague


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11 mmmmmmmKayyyy


    mahonykid wrote: »
    then just join wher ad touches the gound line to that point and there u have it
    did u mean that u get where BC touches the ground line ya?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭brianorourke


    You know when you walk into a Korean restaurant and you're not entirely sure of the language. You basically pick something at random and hope for the best, you're optimistic about your choice. Next thing the waiter comes out with a brain hemorrhage on a bed of toenails. Ladies and gentlemen.... That is how the Design exam went


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭dazco


    Can someone just tell me in Q B-2 Part D what's the true angle between traces?
    I wrote at the bottom of the page that it would be 90 degrees, cause they're on the vertical and horizontal planes.....
    I got the angle of inclination to the horizontal plane just in case though as well cause I didn't really understand it......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭mahonykid


    did u mean that u get where BC touches the ground line ya?
    ya thats it .hard to explain


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11 mmmmmmmKayyyy


    mahonykid wrote: »
    ya thats it .hard to explain
    job thanks, if thats the case, i made that exam my bitch:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭mahonykid


    job thanks, if thats the case, i made that exam my bitch:D


    i was surprised on how easy it was ...i failed the pre like.... i feel as if a b1 is on my way now:p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11 mmmmmmmKayyyy


    mahonykid wrote: »
    i was surprised on how easy it was ...i failed the pre like.... i feel as if a b1 is on my way now:p
    ya same, our whole class thought it was handy. ya id be hopin b1 maybe a if the examiner is a good person haha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭Conor108


    I too failed the pre but that wasn't too bad at all. Sure Im only after a C3 overall. Remember the exam is only 60%


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭mahonykid


    Conor108 wrote: »
    I too failed the pre but that wasn't too bad at all. Sure Im only after a C3 overall. Remember the exam is only 60%
    id say lots failed pre cos we were workin right up to the pre on the project and didnt do a tap on the practical stuff


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 MyHair


    Short questions, easy-peasy got them done without any hassle.

    I did B1,B3,C2 and C3.

    B1- Completely screwed up on the perspective drawing, but got the plan and elevation done fine.

    B3-All done apart from finding the traces of the plane.

    C2-All done apart from finding the traces (again)

    C3- Fully done, no hassle.

    So, all in all I was happy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭3_BOoYA_X


    THAT WAS AMAZING! :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 805 ✭✭✭Mmcd


    MyHair wrote: »
    Short questions, easy-peasy got them done without any hassle.

    I did B1,B3,C2 and C3.

    B1- Completely screwed up on the perspective drawing, but got the plan and elevation done fine.

    B3-All done apart from finding the traces of the plane.

    C2-All done apart from finding the traces (again)

    C3- Fully done, no hassle.

    So, all in all I was happy.
    You didnt have to draw the elevation on b1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 233 ✭✭KealanOCarroll


    Dont have the paper here now but there was an interpenetration!

    The building in florida or whereven it was....B2 i think....
    It was a cylinder interpenetrating the basic rectangular building, was one of the cut types rather than the two solid bodies intersecting type?

    The thickness of the stratum hadto be less than 25mm because the headwall was 25mm from the footwall perpendicular to X1 Y1 so the 25mm was the hypotenuse....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 SolarCreed


    Conor108 wrote: »
    Thought the Dynamic mechanisms was grand but jesus the assembly! I just couldn't picture what went where....Ended up drawing components randomly :D:D I'll lose marks for positioning I know...

    Anyone remember what angle they got for the cut plane yoke in Sec A?

    I'd be very, very happy to pass

    I think it was in and around 40degree's.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 mrkrgn2


    easiest paper i've ever seen and probably will ever do. did all the shorts, all the b's and c-1 and c-2. i hope they don't change up the marking scheme because too many people got A's


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,624 ✭✭✭double GG


    It actually wasn't that bad. I got 3 out of 4 long questions "done" and then i started two others and did them as far as I could.

    I made a few mistakes though, mainly in the Surface gemoetry one, where you had to make a seperate development of Sides B+C, I simply got the true lengths and "attached" them to the sides of the existing elevation, shouldn't lose too much marks though hopefully :)

    Another was in the Intersecting planes where I, by my own laziness, was marking the "up-20" and "down-70" of point C I think it was, I marked up 20 by placing the set square on 20 at the "xy" line and Of Course I only mesaured down 50mm then instead of 70 :o ... I got the Dihedral angle etc, Just it will be a little bit different. For the True shape I just used the true length of the other side :) ... I also left a little note on the sheet about this mistake :cool: :P

    Didn't go too bad, looking for a C2 so Hopefully I should get it :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 SolarCreed


    I think that exam was worryingly easy, I keep thinking did I miss something or not like that question B-3 where they gave you the intersection, at first glance it was like, *t **** is goin on here* but twas handy out! And those short questions were a joke, along with C-2!
    All in all very happy with that exam, on to physics!
    Id say marking will be rough......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 SolarCreed


    mrkrgn2 wrote: »
    easiest paper i've ever seen and probably will ever do. did all the shorts, all the b's and c-1 and c-2. i hope they don't change up the marking scheme because too many people got A's

    Couldn't agree more!*high5*haha


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11 mmmmmmmKayyyy


    i just realised i screwed up the auxiliary vanishin point in perspective,, so pissed with myself.. how much do ye reckon Id lose for that ha?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 Titan9


    Was that auxiliary vanishing point above or below the drawing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,943 ✭✭✭wonderfulname


    Not too shabby a paper, easy C, hard A, just the way it should be really.

    Dynamic was beautiful, couldn't have asked for a nicer question! Blanked on Geologic though, still cant get over something as easy as B-2 being on the paper (I'm assuming thats what everyones calling interpenetration, its not!) although I forgot how to do the D part, lovely short questions too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 00cruzer


    i was very happy with that,perspective was sound,got full marks in that,da question with 2 triangles was tricky,i jus got true lenght of the line and then a point view of that to get dihedral angle.the point B was not touchin the line so it 90 degrees until it touched.the road question seemee to easy if you ask me,jus hope i got it right,My thickness was 30mm.the actual road part was simpledynamin mechanisms was sooo easy,got like a heart shape for the locus.short questions wer easy nuf too.Thats a good B in the bag!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52 ✭✭Fernicia


    Titan9 wrote: »
    Was that auxiliary vanishing point above or below the drawing?

    It was below the left vanishing point and drawing but a bit above the ground line (if I recall correctly).
    i just realised i screwed up the auxiliary vanishin point in perspective,, so pissed with myself.. how much do ye reckon Id lose for that ha?

    Well according to the marking scheme of the perspective drawing from last year (albeit a part A) "Finding AVP" was 2/20 marks, presuming you drew in the sloped edges with some sort of AVP (right or wrong). If you did a method which got you an AVP which still worked relatively well I reckon you'll only lose about 4/45 marks for that.

    ----

    Also, there was no interpenetration question this year. Yee're confusing it with whatever B-2 was.
    Exam papers for DCG are up already btw. Here's section A (i.e. the one you couldn't bring home)
    http://examinations.ie/archive/exampapers/2010/LC562ALP014EV.pdf


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    I think I did OK but I'll probs scrape a C3 (Hopefully including my NES project).

    To all those who said it was hard, it could have been sooooooooooo much worse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,055 ✭✭✭WallyGUFC


    No interpenetration. It was just like a weird balloon-cock shaped dent in the front.:D
    Shorts were piss.
    B2, B3, C1 and C2...were easy.
    I am delighted!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭blacklionboy


    Titan9 wrote: »
    Was that auxiliary vanishing point above or below the drawing?

    i put it below the horizon line


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