Resit a paper - exceptional Circumstances!!

luv-eirexx

Just wonderin is it possible to resit a paper during the summer and have the results of that included in your lc results in August?? I was involved in some very exceptional circumstances right before in an exam which caused me not to do well in it. I can get a note from the gardai as well if needs be!!

tracker-man

nope. There is no such facility unfortunately.

ihavequestions

luv-eirexx wrote: »

Just wonderin is it possible to resit a paper during the summer and have the results of that included in your lc results in August?? I was involved in some very exceptional circumstances right before in an exam which caused me not to do well in it. I can get a note from the gardai as well if needs be!!

I say you nearly could, obviously you'd get a different paper though! Which exam was it? It might have been easier if you didn't actually sit the exam at all! You'd wanna get onto the SEC about it!

And im sorry, the curiorisity is killing me, whats your exeptional circumstances?

Bob the Builder

Nope. Sorry, but I have never ever heard of a situation where a student has been allowed sit an exam on their own over the summer. But Contact the SEC and I'm sure they'll be able to offer you better advice than any of us could.

RomyF

i think we ALL want to know what the exceptional circumstances wer but considering we wernt told from the outset id say we can let her keep her privacy for this one

pathway33

There is no resitting of papers until next June. However I suppose there is no harm if you send a letter to the SEC with the documentary evidence from the gardai outlining what happened then, the circumstances may be taken into account when correcting your exam. However their normal policy from what I have heard is that if you do not inform the invigilator or school or SEC before the exam then there is nothing they can do for you after the exam. Best thing to do now is ring them asap on 090-6442700

luv-eirexx

Ok I think I'll have to get in contact with them so!! I didn't tell my exam supervisor but she knew what happened from being at the school!!

I'll pm anyone that wants to know what happened ... It's not that excitin but I don't want ppl knowin who I am by postin it publicly!! .. I'm from Cork btw but that's all ye're gettin

Bob the Builder

Ah, it's probably not our business to know! Just hope everything is okay though!

If the superintendent knows what happened, and you can get some form of written report from the Gardaí and you actually appeared for the exam, then I'm sure the SEC will make some arrangement to accommodate you.

At the end of the day, there's little anyone can do if something they have no control over goes wrong.

spurious

The time to arrange the reasonable accommodation for exceptional circumstances was before the exam was sat, not after. There is no facility to resit a paper you have already seen.

At the time, it could have been arranged for you to sit somewhere for a few hours quarantined and sit the paper after the others in your centre, but since you've seen the paper, there's no chance now.

Leah6

Yeah, I was thinking about that too. I was suffering post-traumatic stress after the Boland fiasco, was sick as a parrot and as a result did badly in French. That's certainly an exceptional circumstance and I should be allowed to sit the paper again. Come to think of it, my friend had a bad case of pmt and my boyfriend had a dodgy pint the night before. Yeah, I think we're on to something here...

BarnhallBull

Personally, I feel the World Cup being on at the same time should count as exceptional circumstances...

As for the OP's question, i'm 99% sure there's nothin you can do after the event unfortunately

ch252

spurious wrote: »

The time to arrange the reasonable accommodation for exceptional circumstances was before the exam was sat, not after. There is no facility to resit a paper you have already seen.

At the time, it could have been arranged for you to sit somewhere for a few hours quarantined and sit the paper after the others in your centre, but since you've seen the paper, there's no chance now.

I'm afraid that's true, I know one case where a SEC representative had to come to the house and take this persons phone at the time the exam started and stay with that person until they went to sit the exam. It is annoying that they don't have a better system but I guess if they were to put a system in place for that then people would begin to exploit it.

fufureida

You can resit papers In January. That's all.

Cipango

fufureida wrote: »

You can resit papers In January. That's all.

Since when?

fufureida

Cipango wrote: »

Since when?

Since i typed it into google and found out you could.

spurious

No you can't.

fufureida

spurious wrote: »

No you can't.

Yes you can. In January.

Lawliet

fufureida wrote: »

Yes you can. In January.

Link?

jreanor

fufureida wrote: »

Yes you can. In January.

Link?

randylonghorn

fufureida wrote: »

Yes you can. In January.

Provide link please?!!

fufureida

Ok hold on I'll look sheeeesh...

PARARORY

Probably on www.wikipedia.com... I mean , they are one of the most reliable sites around ?

randylonghorn

What do you bet she was on the exams page in her prospective college, and ended up thinking she was reading about the LC?

fufureida

http://www.askaboutmoney.com/showthread.php?p=915740

'You can repeat one subject - any subject. Many students repeat Maths if it is an entry requirement for their chosen course. Your points won't change unless you repeat 6 subjects and improve on your existing points. To repeat Maths, you just need to register as an external candidate in a Leaving Cert exam centre by end of January. Look up State Examinations Commission for External Candidate details. If you don't attend school, to repeat one subject was €109 in 2009 but there are no fees if you have a medical card. If you just sat your LC you should review your exam paper in your school on 28th/29th August to make sure marks were awarded and added up correctly and to get a re-check done if necessary. I think private grinds one to one are the best way to repeat one subject such as Maths as you can get a job/sign on/do a PLC course at the same time.'

... Ok my mistake it's to register in January and not repeat in January... my bad guys muchos sorrys...

Carsinian Thau

It's also from a discussion forum. So not that reliable really...

randylonghorn

fufureida wrote: »

... Ok my mistake it's to register in January and not repeat in January... my bad guys muchos sorrys...

Would you like to borrow a *headdesk* image, spurious? ^_o

ChasingDreams.

My friend's Dad died last week, and he had to sit his exams. They had to arrange the funeral around his tests...

PARARORY

My friend's Dad died last week, and he had to sit his exams. They had to arrange the funeral around his tests...

Thats really sad...

At least though your friend was able to finish his/her exams , fair play. I mean what can the SEC do - sure he could have not done them but it means repeating and doing them next sure which would suck...

randylonghorn

PARARORY wrote: »

I mean what can the SEC do ...

In fairness, they do try in cases like that, and would even let him sit an exam earlier or later.

It means having a superintendent literally by your side every second of the time between the proper exam time and the time that you're doing it though, so it's often easier to organise the funeral around the exam instead.

So tough though!!

MavisDavis

fufureida wrote: »

You can resit papers In January. That's all.

No, you really can't. Some guy got appendicitis on Monday evening and couldn't sit his exams on Tuesday. His parents asked the SEC if he could resit the exams he missed at a later date, his doctors rang to tell them he couldn't possibly sit them, but they were told "he'll have to repeat them next June".

It might not be fair, but it's a case of "tough luck". There is no way to resit a Leaving Certificate exam if you miss it for any reason. You just have to do it again next year.

MonTheBiffy

This may or may not apply but in Art for the practical exam in May if from some reason you are unable to do your exam (i.e broken arm,wrint,finger,nail) your teachers tells the supervisor what they think you would get and thats your score. Apparently. I wonder could a similar agrrement be reached with regards to the OP? Probably not but hey worth ashot, if you dont buy a ticket you can't fix the raffle

randylonghorn

MavisDavis wrote: »

No, you really can't.

We've established that ... read the posts you skipped!

MonTheBiffy wrote: »

This may or may not apply but in Art for the practical exam in May if from some reason you are unable to do your exam (i.e broken arm,wrint,finger,nail) your teachers tells the supervisor what they think you would get and thats your score. Apparently. I wonder could a similar agrrement be reached with regards to the OP? Probably not but hey worth ashot, if you dont buy a ticket you can't fix the raffle

There are provisions to do the orals / practicals at a slightly later time in exceptional circumstances; they don't, to the best of my knowledge, include the teacher telling the Dept. what to give you!

That doesn't apply to the sit-down exams however.

fufureida

There really should be a way to resit papers that's bs...!!!

MonTheBiffy

randylonghorn wrote: »

We've established that ... read the posts you skipped!

There are provisions to do the orals / practicals at a slightly later time in exceptional circumstances; they don't, to the best of my knowledge, include the teacher telling the Dept. what to give you!

That doesn't apply to the sit-down exams however.

''Where, due to illness, a candidate is unable to take the practical test at the scheduled time in any of the
following :- Leaving Certificate subjects : Engineering, Construction Studies, Art – Craftwork / Design /
Imaginative Composition - Still Life / Life Sketching /, Junior Certificate subjects :- Metalwork (Higher
Level), Art Craft Design (Drawing), the candidate must be afforded the opportunity to sit the re-scheduled
Practical test at the earliest opportunity in the period up to the commencement of the written
examinations.''

What happens if, say, you broke your arm on the day the practical was done, couldn't do it. Your arm was still in a cast until after the written exam (in which somebody else wrote for you). What do you do then? Teacher gives you an A1 :rolleyes:

randylonghorn

MonTheBiffy wrote: »

What happens if, say, you broke your arm on the day the practical was done, couldn't do it. Your arm was still in a cast until after the written exam (in which somebody else wrote for you). What do you do then? Teacher gives you an A1 :rolleyes:

I don't know, maybe.

I never examined practical subjects, spurious might give you a better answer.

If so, it's a pretty unreliable way of doing things though.

BarnhallBull

Doesn't your teacher grade your Ag. Science oral? Or did I make that up?

DL Saint

BarnhallBull wrote: »

Doesn't your teacher grade your Ag. Science oral? Or did I make that up?

yes they do and an examiner comes in to examine a small fraction of the class to make sure your teacher is grading it right!

randylonghorn

BarnhallBull wrote: »

Doesn't your teacher grade your Ag. Science oral? Or did I make that up?

No, you're right, Barnhall, and as DL Saint says, there is cross-verification by an Extern on a sample of students.

That's a bit different though from "what do you think s/he would have got if s/he had been able to do the practical?".

Titan9

ChasingDreams. wrote: »

My friend's Dad died last week, and he had to sit his exams. They had to arrange the funeral around his tests...

Same happened my friends dad, the Tuesday night before the exams started, and they still done them. So there is no exceptions.

NotExactly

Does your Teacher grade your Construction project then the examiner grades it? Surely your teacher would give you a better mark then you deserve maybe?

spurious

NotExactly wrote: »

Does your Teacher grade your Construction project then the examiner grades it? Surely your teacher would give you a better mark then you deserve maybe?

In a situation where a local teacher marks practical work, an experienced examiner (monitor) visits every school to check the standard is the same as nationally. So, if the local teacher had given high marks to a bad project, all their marks would be brought down by the monitor to match the national standard.

rainbowtrout

NotExactly wrote: »

Does your Teacher grade your Construction project then the examiner grades it? Surely your teacher would give you a better mark then you deserve maybe?

It's exactly as spurious said above. Most teachers mark accurately because they don't want a couple of grades putting their whole class at risk. I'm an external monitor in ag science and I've brought grades down and up, but most teachers mark fairly because they don't want to screw over their own students

Cook!eMonster

quick question, family member passed away there yeaterday, and the funerals on tuesday, when Im due to sit the spanish exam Does anybody know if there is anything the SEC can do for me?

challengemaster

Cook!eMonster wrote: »

quick question, family member passed away there yeaterday, and the funerals on tuesday, when Im due to sit the spanish exam Does anybody know if there is anything the SEC can do for me?

Ring them and find out

randylonghorn

Cook!eMonster wrote: »

quick question, family member passed away there yeaterday, and the funerals on tuesday, when Im due to sit the spanish exam Does anybody know if there is anything the SEC can do for me?

How close, Cook!e?

Cook!eMonster

randylonghorn wrote: »

How close, Cook!e?

How close of a relative? My aunt. We were very close.

randylonghorn

Best bet is to talk to the school first thing Monday morning, and enlist their help with the SEC.

I honestly don't know how good the chances are ... they certainly make special arrangements in cases of parent etc, but I don't know what their cut-off is.

If they do agree to help, it will mean a super breathing down your neck for any time that's relevant ... e.g. if you sit it early, from that time until everyone else starts, or, if you're later, from the time the exam starts until you start.

Cook!eMonster

randylonghorn wrote: »

Best bet is to talk to the school first thing Monday morning, and enlist their help with the SEC.

I honestly don't know how good the chances are ... they certainly make special arrangements in cases of parent etc, but I don't know what their cut-off is.

If they do agree to help, it will mean a super breathing down your neck for any time that's relevant ... e.g. if you sit it early, from that time until everyone else starts, or, if you're later, from the time the exam starts until you start.

Really? I just have to be there I don't think I could live with myself knowing I didn't go. I wonder if they would let me sit the exam earlier that morning. Thanks for your help

randylonghorn

Cook!eMonster wrote: »

Really? I just have to be there I don't think I could live with myself knowing I didn't go. I wonder if they would let me sit the exam earlier that morning. Thanks for your help

That's often the preferred way ... then once it hits the start time for the normal exam, they can forget about bodyguarding you.

Cook!eMonster

randylonghorn wrote: »

That's often the preferred way ... then once it hits the start time for the normal exam, they can forget about bodyguarding you.

well i'd rather do the exam early than be in the funeral knowing I have to do it like. They'll probably keep me in the school until the actual exam starts will they?

randylonghorn

That would be simpler for both of ye probably. How long is the exam? ... and what time is the funeral?

(Sorry for being nosey, just trying to think it through)