Record Label Looking For Bands *MOD WARNING IN POST #1*

impaacademy

Calling the irish unsigned entertainment industry.

Are you a rock, indie, heavy metal band or solo artist.
Are you sick to death of people trying to get you to pay for them to work with you. Òr pay to play gigs which are not providing you with access to labels, well if the answer is yes, then welcome to a new service called impa academy, we are currently looking for the best in new unsigned talent across all of ireland. It will cost you nothing, only your time. We are in the final stages of putting together a deal with major labels which will see irish bands get released worldwide. This is going to be the biggest drive in irish rock history, bands will be given access to recording studios , producers and engineers ,music tv and radio worldwide. We get paid everytime one of you get signed, so if you want a record deal, publishing deal then contact us on here, to earn money priavte msg us today, please note impa academy is new,we have a website being designed, we will never ask a single artist for a penny by email or phone, this service is totally free to bands and solo artists,

become a record producer/sound enigneer
it is your dream to become a record producer producing singles an albums for artists who are up for international release, become know to the record industry, build up a portfolio of production work so everybody knows who you are , who you have produced, for what label and chart placing worldwide your productions have reach, build you a cv of released productions which your paid for producing and engineering, well we will have the courses for you, and they wont cost a fortune and give nothing back. At impa you will be recording in professional recording studios in ireland and the uk. If your a person who wishes to train as a record producer or enigneer, but find other courses are to expensive then priave msg us and we will contact you to go over everything with you.

Are you a trained a producer/enigneer

finding it hard to gain work, after college most studios and labels want to see a cv of work outside your college course which will show them how good you really are. Them private msg us, we have a service for you that will see you gain work and a cv of productions across the world. This servive cannot be provided free . But it fairly priced for what we will do for you.all work provided is provided under a legal contract in ireland. So for roducers who wish to be the new timbaland or jay z or if your dream is to produce for some of the biggest bands in the world when your cv is out their then contact us toda

MOD WARNING:

Alright, ok. The dude doesn't have a great grasp of English. But really, if you don't have anything to add to this thread, why bother?

If you have no interest in responding to the guy, don't post. Simple. If you do, I will see it as thread spoiling and issue bans as I see deserve it.

MilanPan!c

That's a LOT OF CAPS

Zombienosh

impa academy returns no results on google

MilanPan!c

I actually applaud whoever is doing this (I just didn't dig all the painful caps)!

It's good that people are trying, at least trying, to help the Irish music scene.

I wish you guys a TON of success.

It's very painful to me to see all the bands that move to London and all the people that say, "you can't make it here in Ireland".

If this kind of thing helps change the scene and people's expectations, then I fully support it.

Malice

I've reformatted the first post so that it's actually readable. I've left the typos in though.

AlcoholicA wrote: »

impa academy returns no results on google

Yes it does. I got the International Marine Purchasing Association, the Inventory Management Practitioner - Advanced Course and about 33,300 more. Mind you, I found nothing about the IMPA referred to in the first post .

impaacademy

we are new and dont at this time have a website up online. we are different in that our music production courses will be though by real music industry professionals, our film and tv courses is though by a guy who has many hollywood years behind him. but is young enough to be able to give our students and bands the chance to reach their goal and make money along the way

impa team

Malice

impaacademy wrote: »

we are new and dont at this time have a website up online. we are different in that our music production courses will be though by real music industry professionals, our film and tv courses is though by a guy who has many hollywood years behind him. but is young enough to be able to give our students and bands the chance to reach their goal and make money along the way

impa team

I mean this as constructive criticism so don't take offense but please, if you're representing a professional organisation, take more care over your posts. What you've written on this thread so far is littered with mistakes that, to me, reflect very poorly on the message you're putting across (and that's without mentioning the original post that was written in all caps).

impaacademy

Malice_ wrote: »

I mean this as constructive criticism so don't take offense but please, if you're representing a professional organisation, take more care over your posts. What you've written on this thread so far is littered with mistakes that, to me, reflect very poorly on the message you're putting across (and that's without mentioning the original post that was written in all caps).

please understand that we are new and only posted to day., our new pr team will be taken the post another level shortly. but your views will be passed and thank you for taken the time to contact us

nitromaster

impaacademy wrote: »

please understand that we are new and only posted to day., our new pr team will be taken the post another level shortly. but your views will be passed and thank you for taken the time to contact us

Still agree to the post you responded to,
If you're going to get proper PR who can write stuff properly then do it before you started posting publically. (PR=public relations)

MilanPan!c

nitromaster wrote: »

Still agree to the post you responded to,
If you're going to get proper PR who can write stuff properly then do it before you started posting publically. (PR=public relations)

Boards is a harsh mistress.

artvandulet

impaacademy wrote: »

please understand that we are new and only posted to day., our new pr team will be taken the post another level shortly. but your views will be passed and thank you for taken the time to contact us

Unfortunately, I can't figure out if this is going to be something legitimate or not. The wording and spelling of your posts are so bad that I immediately have doubts about your legitimacy. Otherwise it sounds interesting.
I strongly advise you to get someone else to post messages on behalf of your organisation before you do it any further damage.

Malice

impaacademy wrote: »

our new pr team will be taken the post another level shortly.

Jesus wept, what does that even mean?

drumdrum

Its like they are using Google Translate to post here from a different language or something!!

But Malice is right, first impressions are too important to underestimate!

Its like if I represented a professional organisation and put up an advert like:

"Yo whatsup peeps? My company "AI: Awseom Instruments" sells alot of uniqe instruemnts and stuff so chek us out like, yeah? Cool beans!"

instead of:

"Greetings musicians of Ireland!
AI: Awesome Instruments are a new up and coming business enterprise that specialise in the retail and distribution of specialised instruments....." etc etc...

I know which ad I would take more seriously!

MilanPan!c

artvandulet wrote: »

Unfortunately, I can't figure out if this is going to be something legitimate or not. The wording and spelling of your posts are so bad that I immediately have doubts about your legitimacy. Otherwise it sounds interesting.
I strongly advise you to get someone else to post messages on behalf of your organisation before you do it any further damage.

I agree.

I think this is def intended to be a VERY serious thing, which would be cool, but it needs a different approach to communicating it's goals, etc.

Yer, man, who I PM'd to try and sus this out, was very responsive and nice, for the record, and was prolly just over excited by the project to hold off on posting.

That can all be forgiven and even overlooked completely if the project turn out to be 10% as promising as the OP made it sound.

Come OP, follow through with this! We're all pulling for ye to be legit!

greenpilot

This may be of help to folks......
IMPA may refer to:

• impa, the Finnish grammar Superlative formation of the adjective
• Impa (インパ, Inpa?), a recurring character in The Legend of Zelda series
• Impa shilup, or "Nalusa chito", the soul eater, one of the Choctaw mythology Shadow like beings
• IMPA1 (Inositol(myo)-1(or 4)-monophosphatase 1), a human gene
• Impasug-ong, a municipality in the province of Bukidnon, Philippines, whose name comes from the local terms "Impa" meaning "made to" and "sugong" meaning "return to its source"
• IMPA Tu-Sa, a civil aviation trainer aircraft developed in Argentina in the 1940s for aeroclub use
• International Marine Purchasing Association, a marine supply-chain organization that works in close association with the Maritime E-Commerce Association (MECA)
• Interplanetary Monitoring Platform-A (IMP-A or IMP 1), a Magnetospheric research satellite, launched 27 November 1963, in the United States's Explorer program
• International Motor Press Association, a trade association representing automotive journalists and Public Relations professionals in the United States
• Instituto Nacional de Matemática Pura e Aplicada, Brazil's National Institute for Pure and Applied Mathematics in Rio de Janeiro
• EET Nº7 Taller Regional Quilmes (IMPA), Argentinean High school
• :D

greenpilot

greenpilot wrote: »

This may be of help to folks......
IMPA may refer to:

• impa, the Finnish grammar Superlative formation of the adjective
• Impa (インパ, Inpa?), a recurring character in The Legend of Zelda series
• Impa shilup, or "Nalusa chito", the soul eater, one of the Choctaw mythology Shadow like beings
• IMPA1 (Inositol(myo)-1(or 4)-monophosphatase 1), a human gene
• Impasug-ong, a municipality in the province of Bukidnon, Philippines, whose name comes from the local terms "Impa" meaning "made to" and "sugong" meaning "return to its source"
• IMPA Tu-Sa, a civil aviation trainer aircraft developed in Argentina in the 1940s for aeroclub use
• International Marine Purchasing Association, a marine supply-chain organization that works in close association with the Maritime E-Commerce Association (MECA)
• Interplanetary Monitoring Platform-A (IMP-A or IMP 1), a Magnetospheric research satellite, launched 27 November 1963, in the United States's Explorer program
• International Motor Press Association, a trade association representing automotive journalists and Public Relations professionals in the United States
• Instituto Nacional de Matemática Pura e Aplicada, Brazil's National Institute for Pure and Applied Mathematics in Rio de Janeiro
• EET Nº7 Taller Regional Quilmes (IMPA), Argentinean High school
• :D

Savman wrote: »

Brutally harsh, but fair.

Looks farcical already tbh.

drumdrum wrote: »

Its like they are using Google Translate to post here from a different language or something!!

But Malice is right, first impressions are too important to underestimate!

Its like if I represented a professional organisation and put up an advert like:

"Yo whatsup peeps? My company "AI: Awseom Instruments" sells alot of uniqe instruemnts and stuff so chek us out like, yeah? Cool beans!"

instead of:

"Greetings musicians of Ireland!
AI: Awesome Instruments are a new up and coming business enterprise that specialise in the retail and distribution of specialised instruments....." etc etc...

I know which ad I would take more seriously!

artvandulet wrote: »

Unfortunately, I can't figure out if this is going to be something legitimate or not. The wording and spelling of your posts are so bad that I immediately have doubts about your legitimacy. Otherwise it sounds interesting.
I strongly advise you to get someone else to post messages on behalf of your organisation before you do it any further damage.

MilanPan!c wrote: »

Boards is a harsh mistress.

nitromaster wrote: »

Still agree to the post you responded to,
If you're going to get proper PR who can write stuff properly then do it before you started posting publically. (PR=public relations)

MilanPan!c wrote: »

That's a LOT OF CAPS

AlcoholicA wrote: »

impa academy returns no results on google

Alright, ok. The dude doesn't have a great grasp of English. But really, if you don't have anything to add to this thread, why bother?

If you have no interest in responding to the guy, don't post. Simple. If you do, I will see it as thread spoiling and issue bans as I see deserve it.

This is the line btw. Cross it and you will be banned.

Zombienosh

I was/am interested in this, I just said i couldnt see anything when i googled, I've pm'd and am waiting for an email response

Jibbs

AlcoholicA wrote: »

I was/am interested in this, I just said i couldnt see anything when i googled, I've pm'd and am waiting for an email response

Lettuce no how you get on with this. Sounds intriguing.

Pawsome54

I pm'd the guy who put this up the other day and have to say, he was bang on, helpful as he could be and no bullsh*t about him.
Strongly reccomend others get in touch too

SpittinStuff

+1

gibson

I pm'ed too just waiting for reply, ill let you know how I get on!

all the stars

Pm'ed also

Waking-Dreams

Are you guys PM'ing this crowd out of some morbid curiosity, as in, looking for red flags? Or do you actually believe they can do something for your music/band that you're somehow incapable of doing for yourselves?

It's good that people are trying, at least trying, to help the Irish music scene.

I can't disagree with that sentiment at all. It just seems there's a vast sea of people who are all for “helping” but haven't put together something that doesn't smack of amateurism masquerading as semi-professionalism.

If you have no interest in responding to the guy, don't post. Simple. If you do, I will see it as thread spoiling and issue bans as I see deserve it. This is the line btw. Cross it and you will be banned.

I'm all for people helping out, but in the same fashion that bands are sometimes given harsh criticism of their music from would-be listeners, these kind of start-ups should not be exempt from sceptical analysis either. To be clear, I don't condone personal attacks or rude insults and put-downs (which is all too frequent on the internet) but placing certain ventures into a protective box where they can't be commented on reasonably isn't the solution.

Let this thread be a good lesson to bands on what to look for when you encounter others who give you a great pitch on helping you out.

If it sounds too good to be true... it probably is... you don't get something for nothing...

Remember, no one else creates the appeal and demand for your music. YOU create the appeal and demand for your music.

Malice

Waking-Dreams wrote: »

Remember, no one else creates the appeal and demand for your music. YOU create the appeal and demand for your music.

So Jedward created the appeal and demand for their music? Louis Walsh and their record label had nothing to do with it?

Waking-Dreams

I think my point has been misunderstood.

So let's take your example of Jedward. They're the ones up on that stage aren't they? If they were totally useless (which is open to debate of course), no marketing or PR could convince people to like them unless they found some kind of entertainment value in them. The music industry has a long history of flops (I think it's something like an 80% rate of commercial “failure”), acts which had all the marketing and record label promo behind them; still didn't turn 'em into successes at the end of the day.

So when I say, you create the appeal and demand for your music, the key word is you, because you are the artist/band and it is your performance that seals the deal, not whether the record label buys you tons of advertising space and hypes your music through the media, etc. YOU still have to deliver the goods. You are the appeal that's in demand by consumers.

Pawsome54

Waking-Dreams wrote: »

I think my point has been misunderstood.

So let's take your example of Jedward. They're the ones up on that stage aren't they? If they were totally useless (which is open to debate of course), no marketing or PR could convince people to like them unless they found some kind of entertainment value in them. The music industry has a long history of flops (I think it's something like an 80% rate of commercial “failure”), acts which had all the marketing and record label promo behind them; still didn't turn 'em into successes at the end of the day.

So when I say, you create the appeal and demand for your music, the key word is you, because you are the artist/band and it is your performance that seals the deal, not whether the record label buys you tons of advertising space and hypes your music through the media, etc. YOU still have to deliver the goods. You are the appeal that's in demand by consumers.

I disagree, you can be the best, most incredibly talented band in the world, but if you don't have the right people behind you and the right contacts, you're never gonna get anywhere.

Yes, i do agree that it's up to a band to create their appeal, and make themselves good enough so that people would maintain interest in them, however without the right marketing and help along the way, unfortunately all that hard work and effort will go to waste.

Waking-Dreams

That's a horrible, short-sighted mentality to have; that all your efforts are in vain if commerce isn't behind you and you don't attain the levels of success your musical icons and heroes once did.

Although at 16 years of age, I certainly believed that too.

There's no yard stick to measuring success; it means different things to differnet people. Success for some can mean having more money than your neighbour; having more friends; a bigger or faster car, a wife with huge breasts, a more interesting job, or... being in a band that tours the world.

A band that are “talented” get a label, promotion and gain “success”. Most musicians (particularly unsigned ones) attribute a large part of their “success” to the label's involvement.

Similarly, when another talented band get a label, promotion, yet gain no success (they fail to sell enough records), musicians tend to attribute a large part of the band's failure down to the band's lack of ability to win over the public, and the label are still held in high esteem.

So if you succeed; thumbs up for the label; if you lose; it's your own fault... kinda.

Warped thinking or what?

Pawsome54

Well I'm not going to get into an ethical debate with you about the measure of success.

What I mean by the above is that most musicians wish to pursue a career professionally, and not just in their spare time after their day-job.
That's what I mean by success, that a band can get by just with their music.
Now I completely accept that some people only want to have a laugh with their mates, play a couple of gigs, have a pint and enjoy the music. However, there are others who yes, do dream of being your rock stars or pop stars etc. And these people do, in general, need help from record labels and the likes to help them get by, and get where they want to be.

Either way its the love of the music that counts, not just wanting to make money or be famous.

Waking-Dreams

there are others who yes, do dream of being your rock stars or pop stars etc. And these people do, in general, need help from record labels and the likes to help them get by, and get where they want to be.

I think you misunderstand what I'm trying to say here. That's not in dispute. If you read the "looking for a record deal?" thread, you'll see I don't write off a label's involvement if the goal is to become a big music star.

In the above example I gave here, where band A succeeds and band B fails, the common denominator in both is still the band's music; their appeal, not the label's input and organisation skills presenting the band to consumers. You can take the horse to water but you can't make him drink. It's the label's job to try and convince the public to drink whatever is put in front of them, whether the music is crap, good, great, or amazing... but in any case, the band's appeal is what wins over the crowd and this is something that they can and do work on themselves.

So when I say, you create the appeal and demand for your music, the key word is you, because you are the artist/band and it is your performance that seals the deal, not whether the record label buys you tons of advertising space and hypes your music through the media, etc. YOU still have to deliver the goods. You are the appeal that's in demand by consumers.

gibson

Waking-Dreams wrote: »

Are you guys PM'ing this crowd out of some morbid curiosity, as in, looking for red flags? Or do you actually believe they can do something for your music/band that you're somehow incapable of doing for yourselves?

.

Whats the harm in sending them a PM and finding out some more information?

Pawsome54

Oh ok, sorry for the misunderstanding, in that case I do agree with you Waking-Dream. Marketing can be difficult for a band on its own to do though without good management and such, so having a record label would still help in that respect, and there's no harm in being open to taking all the halp you can get.