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Record Label Looking For Bands *MOD WARNING IN POST #1*
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I've reformatted the first post so that it's actually readable. I've left the typos in though.
Yes it does. I got the International Marine Purchasing Association, the Inventory Management Practitioner - Advanced Course and about 33,300 more. Mind you, I found nothing about the IMPA referred to in the first postAlcoholicA wrote: »impa academy returns no results on google
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This may be of help to folks......
IMPA may refer to:- impa, the Finnish grammar Superlative formation of the adjective
- Impa (インパ, Inpa?), a recurring character in The Legend of Zelda series
- Impa shilup, or "Nalusa chito", the soul eater, one of the Choctaw mythology Shadow like beings
- IMPA1 (Inositol(myo)-1(or 4)-monophosphatase 1), a human gene
- Impasug-ong, a municipality in the province of Bukidnon, Philippines, whose name comes from the local terms "Impa" meaning "made to" and "sugong" meaning "return to its source"
- IMPA Tu-Sa, a civil aviation trainer aircraft developed in Argentina in the 1940s for aeroclub use
- International Marine Purchasing Association, a marine supply-chain organization that works in close association with the Maritime E-Commerce Association (MECA)
- Interplanetary Monitoring Platform-A (IMP-A or IMP 1), a Magnetospheric research satellite, launched 27 November 1963, in the United States's Explorer program
- International Motor Press Association, a trade association representing automotive journalists and Public Relations professionals in the United States
- Instituto Nacional de Matemática Pura e Aplicada, Brazil's National Institute for Pure and Applied Mathematics in Rio de Janeiro
- EET Nº7 Taller Regional Quilmes (IMPA), Argentinean High school
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greenpilot wrote: »This may be of help to folks......
IMPA may refer to:- impa, the Finnish grammar Superlative formation of the adjective
- Impa (インパ, Inpa?), a recurring character in The Legend of Zelda series
- Impa shilup, or "Nalusa chito", the soul eater, one of the Choctaw mythology Shadow like beings
- IMPA1 (Inositol(myo)-1(or 4)-monophosphatase 1), a human gene
- Impasug-ong, a municipality in the province of Bukidnon, Philippines, whose name comes from the local terms "Impa" meaning "made to" and "sugong" meaning "return to its source"
- IMPA Tu-Sa, a civil aviation trainer aircraft developed in Argentina in the 1940s for aeroclub use
- International Marine Purchasing Association, a marine supply-chain organization that works in close association with the Maritime E-Commerce Association (MECA)
- Interplanetary Monitoring Platform-A (IMP-A or IMP 1), a Magnetospheric research satellite, launched 27 November 1963, in the United States's Explorer program
- International Motor Press Association, a trade association representing automotive journalists and Public Relations professionals in the United States
- Instituto Nacional de Matemática Pura e Aplicada, Brazil's National Institute for Pure and Applied Mathematics in Rio de Janeiro
- EET Nº7 Taller Regional Quilmes (IMPA), Argentinean High school
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Brutally harsh, but fair.
Looks farcical already tbh.Its like they are using Google Translate to post here from a different language or something!!
But Malice is right, first impressions are too important to underestimate!
Its like if I represented a professional organisation and put up an advert like:
"Yo whatsup peeps? My company "AI: Awseom Instruments" sells alot of uniqe instruemnts and stuff so chek us out like, yeah? Cool beans!"
instead of:
"Greetings musicians of Ireland!
AI: Awesome Instruments are a new up and coming business enterprise that specialise in the retail and distribution of specialised instruments....." etc etc...
I know which ad I would take more seriously!artvandulet wrote: »Unfortunately, I can't figure out if this is going to be something legitimate or not. The wording and spelling of your posts are so bad that I immediately have doubts about your legitimacy. Otherwise it sounds interesting.
I strongly advise you to get someone else to post messages on behalf of your organisation before you do it any further damage.MilanPan!c wrote: »Boards is a harsh mistress.nitromaster wrote: »Still agree to the post you responded to,
If you're going to get proper PR who can write stuff properly then do it before you started posting publically. (PR=public relations)MilanPan!c wrote: »That's a LOT OF CAPSAlcoholicA wrote: »impa academy returns no results on google
Alright, ok. The dude doesn't have a great grasp of English. But really, if you don't have anything to add to this thread, why bother?
If you have no interest in responding to the guy, don't post. Simple. If you do, I will see it as thread spoiling and issue bans as I see deserve it.
This is the line btw. Cross it and you will be banned.0 -
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AlcoholicA wrote: »I was/am interested in this, I just said i couldnt see anything when i googled, I've pm'd and am waiting for an email response
Lettuce no how you get on with this. Sounds intriguing.0 -
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Learn to help yourself as much as you can is all I'll say.
Whats the harm in sending them a PM and finding out some more information?
What's the harm in going to see a palm reader either? It all depends on what you expect you will get out of it based on what evidence you have gathered beforehand.
It just seems as if this crowd shot itself in the foot by not having a website set-up, and the nature of the post as well for that matter gives off the impression of good intentions soaked in amateurism. Again, nothing wrong with wanting to help, but in order to be taken seriously, one has to present some level of professionalism. Otherwise, as a band, you don't know what kind of person/people you're dealing with and how useful they actually are.
Case in point, a few years ago I was in band very briefly with a guy who was very much looking to get signed and tour the world. He had big ideas, and big ambitions. Yet just like you see on Dragon's Den when it goes all wrong, he was one of those manic, nonsensical, crazy, all over the place people – his "pitches" just sounded like those of a dreamer every time he spoke to the rest of the band and other people about us doing something that would help the band and further our progress, all based in unreality too. I think he had some deep issues about succeeding and wanting to make something of himself. I felt sorry for the guy.
Anyways, we went our separate ways but then months later he resurfaced, putting together his own “production company” for unsigned bands to help them get signed, get their music out there, make money, forge a career, etc – pretty much the kind of thing that this crowd here are offering it seems. Yet, in my example, this is the last person you would want to get involved with or waste your time listening to. Again, he had no website yet (just a myspace page), said everything was in the making, he was negotiating with record labels, the list goes on...
In the end it never went anywhere.
I'm not suggesting the people running the IMPA are anything like this now, but it's just something to think about in general. Don't overestimate what other people can do for you just because they have good intentions. That guy I mentioned had good intentions too, though I wouldn't entrust him with others people's music because he couldn't even handle his own affairs. He was a mess.
Again, people set-up these things to help. But there's no criteria for qualifications. It could be a bedroom warrior who just wants to feel important by having a “production company” that promotes bands no more effectively than you or I could by spending an evening on MySpace/Facebook messaging people.
Then again, tons of bands act like amateurs in a state of arrested development so no wonder they're open to working with such people. But I think you'll find bands and artists who have their heads screwed on tend not to waste their time and energy with such ventures. They can see the wood for the trees.
Have you ever been approached by someone at a gig who claims they have a website that will review your music, or have a podcast and will play your music? Of course, there's no harm in giving them a disc you say, but what if the amount of people they reach is almost no one, or worse, they don't even have a website and just scored a free disc from you for nothing? These people are out there.
It's just food for thought. That's all I'm offering.0 -
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In fact Ive seen plenty of people after gigs giving out their CDs for free. I dont see how it can be a bad idea when you never know who might hear it. It doesnt cost much to get a few blank Cds and burn a few copies at very least, its not like your giving out bars of gold!
Have a look at most review websites. They typically state, “NO MP3's or copied discs. We require an original copy for review”. Giving out blank copies is one thing; handing out original demos to people who claim they'll give you a review in their site with zero readership is another thing. That's what I'm talking about.
Now, Zendali, would you like a hug?
As I began reading the thread and noticing how the OP was being assailed from all sides by an excitable lynch mob
I'll agree some of the initial posts were sarcastic but this is the Internet, it's trial by fire. Someone makes claims that appeal to people's desire to further themselves musically, and people will naturally look for some evidence that they can back those claims up with. A lack of a web presence in this day and age just isn't a smart move. Sorry.The "amateur" inference is a tad annoying, as "Waking-Dreams" sits on the fence sniper-like while taking pot shots at those trying to help, while offering zilch himself by way of support or opportunity for unsigned acts.
Sits on the fence? Offering zilch to bands? So some words of advice and observation is deemed zilch by your standards unless it leads to a pat on the back for “good effort” or an opportunity for unsigned bands (I offer them some industry contacts?). I have received PM's from people thanking me for my input into the various threads here and there's a few thanks from some users at the bottom of my posts in this forum. So, yeah, zilch offered indeed.
I know you don't like what I have to say Zendali but with respect, this is a public forum where everyone should have their say. I think I have been most diplomatic in not wanting to piss people off but sometimes you have to ask the hard questions like, “is this for real?” People tend to get defensive when their self-esteem is threatened, but that's a part of life. You have to learn to take a bit of criticism and stand up for yourself and your ideas. Why haven't the IMPA come back and defended their venture by posting more info which would put people's concerns to rest? I'd love it if they did. I'm happy to be proven wrong. But my posts aren't really about IMPA, but about these kind of ventures in general. Bands should think things through and make smart choices, otherwise they're just acting on impulse. Like a consumer who buys a product they thought they wanted but turned out they didn't need.
But pointing out where the guys went wrong is somehow “negative” in your mind and is a “personal attack, rude insult, or put-down”? So, we all have to be nice to each other? No one can say anything “negative” or make a criticism because we all come here to feel good about ourselves, and it's the thought that counts.
All I have ever said on this forum, is that bands can help themselves more than they think. Instead, many of them are convinced they're powerless and badly need the help of anyone (even people who have no proven track record of their qualifications or use). I mean, what do bands usually ask of musicians when they try-out at an audition?
“Who have you played with before? What experience do you have? OK, let's hear you play.” Imagine, the reply they got was, “Emm, I'm working on it, I'll get back to you soon, but I really can help your band's sound!”
So if the band were to criticise and disregard this person, by your definition, they would be “negative”.
And the FF comment was bit absurd but ironic coming from yourself.
I noticed in the “looking for a record deal thread” you ignored the very first question you were asked.What will your role be in brokering these deals? Can you direct the readers of this board to previous deals you have been involved with? What is your track record? Out of , say, 200 artists that you have brought to publishers or labels how many have been offered deals?
I overlooked this, but someone brought it up after I left the thread. Yet, your answer would have put the tactics of most politicians to shame.While living in London for several years I ran a music night in a pub venue. I also managed a couple of acts, studied Contract Law, and attended music industry seminars. I networked extensively during this time and scouted on a freelance basis for several labels including Epic, Polydor and Nude (Suede`s label). I also scouted songs for a couple of publishers, so I`m not exactly wet behind the ears as to how this industry works - or at least what`s left of the industry.
That still didn't answer the initial question at all of what deals/bands you were involved with and how they got on. But well played nonetheless.
Look, Zendali, I know it seems like I'm out to sh*t in your cereal but it's nothing personal. I'm speaking my mind like everyone else here does. I have studied music business for 3 years and have been out there in the real world playing in bands, locally and across Canada, interacting with lots of musicians and listening to the myriad testimonies, stories, and viewpoints of other seasoned players. I have my own views on the whole topic of the music industry and what people think about it and what they want from it. It's a fascinating subject about the human condition, to want validation and acceptance from people but on a larger scale than their social circle can provide.
You and I are on polar opposites, like an atheist and a faith head, so I'm happy to stay clear because I have nothing constructive or useful to offer from your point of view.0 -
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MilanPan!c wrote: »I think in this day and age emailing a MySpace link is far more likely.
It's not that you should NEVER do it, but I think it's a silly policy, if you're trying to be serious.
Definitely true about the myspace link but then you could have that link on the CD itself as well or a website link to tell people where they can find out more about you. I suppose I just think the more you put it out there in as many mediums as possible the better chance there is of someone hearing it...not just a talent scout or someone to do with a record label but people who may potentially become fans of your music.
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Waking-Dreams: I`m not looking for an ego massage or even a modicum of thanks I was angered because of your barbed comments to the OP and, by implication, to myself or anyone else who`s trying to give added exposure to unsigned acts. I agree that we`d both like to hear more from the OP of this thread, though from my own experience he`s probably
submerged under an avalanche of music replies. The main point to consider is that he, like I, is offering a free service to unsigned bands and musicians. From my own experience over the past few months, such a voluntary service can be unbelievably time-consuming, even though hearing such a variety of new music can be a compensation of sorts. But above all else, it`s the most practical solution for unsigned acts to further their careers...in my opinion anyway.
Artists and bands need industry support to progress to the next level. Fact. And I realise that you and I are diametrically opposed on this point, where you advocate that acts should be self-reliant and carve out their own careers independently of labels, management etc. While it may seem like an admirable goal, where the band or artist do everything for themselves and maximise the resources of the net, it`s frankly a romantic notion and a chronically inept business model. Facebooking and online hustling is all well and good but it pales beside the impact that a concerted industry campaign can have. Ask yourself,how many acts in Glastonbury this weekend are playing there without industry support, or at least have had some input from the industry along the way?
It`s pointless citing examples of bloggers who have generated massive online followings. These are writers and fashion/music/movie reviewers, not unsigned music acts. And even Crystal Swing and Susan Boyle are just freakish examples of a viral in bushfire mode. Many of those who replied to me would echo my views on this and have grown exasperated with the type of approach you propose.They tried the DIY route and came to the conclusion that the net is merely another tool or means to an end - but never an end in itself. Essentially they want investment to fund a producer and a quality recording, along with some money for tour support. They also want management to help structure their plans and to tout on their behalf to labels and publishers. Personally I think it borders on rank stupidity to ignore a whole array of industry specialists, people with vast years of experience and an in-depth knowledge of promoting bands and artists.
If I was planning on opening a garage then I`d first have to source my stock. I`d be loathe to open a showroom with no cars on view. In the same way my website is a work in progress, where I`m currently liaising with the web designer on design and content issues while compiling a list of acts to showcase. I`ve no burning wish to blow my vuvuzela here and boast of past achievements, inviting a further damburst of management requests on top of the music replies I`m already trying to cope with. And besides, it`s totally irrelevant to the purposes of my website, which is to showcase new talent to the various strands of the industry. As I`ve stressed before, all I`m doing here is asking acts to mail me their myspace links, from which I`ll compile a (subjective) list of 20 acts to appear in my site`s Gallery page. I`ll then hit the industry trail and notify them of the site`s existence. If any deals come about because of the site, then that`s entirely between the industry party and the relevant act. The bands and artists who appear on the site will be doing so free of charge. My primary goal will be to generate visitor hits, in order to attract sponsors to fund the site. `0 -
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