Supra vs R34

martydunf

If you were in the lucky position to be able to afford and run either a Supra TT (Mk 4) or a R34 GTR which would you choose and why?

This is purely out of interest and I didnt bother posting this in the main motoring section as I'd get the typical response of "If I had that kind of money to spend Id get this or that instead etc!"

So if it came down to these 2 big hitters which would you go for and why?

Bonito

R34. I love the look of it and love having 4wd, It's grown on me TBH.

Atomic Pineapple

R34, no competition

martydunf

draffodx wrote: »

R34, no competition

Why so?

Atomic Pineapple

martydunf wrote: »

Why so?

Looks better, 4 wheel drive, massive road presence, massive tuning potential, better handling, better grip

--Kaiser--

R34 GT-R

Better Handling (due to AWD and All Wheel Steering) and better looking (IMO).
This is conjecture, however, never having driven either

martydunf

draffodx wrote: »

Looks better, 4 wheel drive, massive road presence, massive tuning potential, better handling, better grip

Agreed. But I think the Supra also has quite a large road presence and it has a huge tuning potential too (e.g. the Supra from Hell!:eek: re:YouTube)

Graham_B18C

GTR anyday!!! That Supra from hell looks like it's a drag car, would never take corners as quick as a GTR

But to be fair the GTR is my 'someday' car! They're far less common than the Supra too

Blitzkrieger

Supra is common?

TBH I'd be tempted to go for the Supra just because the R34 has been tuned to death. The Supra isn't far behind, but if I see another 1000+ bhp R34 I think I'll scream.

I suppose it depends what you're looking for. If I was looking for a road car or a track car I'd probably go for the R34 every time. That fancy 4wd system probably would save my life. But for straight line speed that 2J-GTZ (guessing) is hard to beat. Sometimes there's no replacement for displacement....

Graham_B18C

If you see another 1000bhp R34 you'll scream, I've only ever seen TWO R34 GTRs, I've seen countless supras. Neither of the GTRs were putting down anything close to 1000hp. You do realise the ones that do put out that much power are very special cars right?

Tefral

R34 without question, better looking, better handling, sounds better too for some reason...

The supra is more of a cruiser

Id love to be in the position of having to choose though!:D

SV

It'd be the GTR everytime for me.
love the look of them..seriously stand out big time.

I see a supra nearly every day, they're as common as muck around these parts, not neccesarily all TT though but they just don't stand out at all anymore.

the one time I seen an r34GTR passing me into a shopping centre car park I had to follow and ask if I could take pics of it

whereas I can look out my window right now and see a Supra TT!



Also, aren't the r34GTRs far bigger money to buy than the Supras?
that'd be a fairly deciding factor for me really if it was an issue, otherwise..GTR all the way

martydunf

SV wrote: »

Also, aren't the r34GTRs far bigger money to buy than the Supras?
that'd be a fairly deciding factor for me really if it was an issue, otherwise..GTR all the way

Depends on the spec really. There are a few R34 GTR's going on Pistonheads between the ranges of £20000 up to £40000.

OTOH there are a lot of cheap Supras on PH but any of the rarer desired ones (i.e Twin Turbo, Manual and 1996 up) seem to be going for £10000+, so I dont think the price differnce between the two cars is that much

ShadowHearth

R34 GTR, i was a sucker for skylines since i was 15... :rolleyes:

I got one now thought, next one will be only GTR. Or rb26det in my skyline.

on the ather hand i love supras, 2jz is amazing engine. thought i wouldnt go anything lower then TT model

Graham_B18C

ShadowHearth wrote: »

R34 GTR, i was a sucker for skylines since i was 15... :rolleyes:

I got one now thought, next one will be only GTR. Or rb26det in my skyline.

on the ather hand i love supras, 2jz is amazing engine. thought i wouldnt go anything lower then TT model

Is the engine from the GTR not an RB26DETT though?

What has the 2.6L single turbo lump?

Midnight_EG

There is no RB26DET!

SV

Midnight_EG wrote: »

There is no RB26DET!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_RB_engine#RB26DETT

it's only an extra letter man

Midnight_EG

SV wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_RB_engine#RB26DETT

it's only an extra letter man

It's an extra bloody turbo :P

SV

Midnight_EG wrote: »

It's an extra bloody turbo :P

letter..turbo..

sure what use would an extra turbo be to ya?

Absurdum

R34 every time, it's better in every department imo

tezzy_v2

R34 GTR

I've never driven a GTR but i had a Supra VVTi TT for a year and it was a weapon. Mine had leather and all the toys inside and was definitely a machine for crossing continents in. I had an Altezza at the same time and while the tezza handled well, the supra was definitely more sure footed going into a corner at speed, despite having an extra 150bhp

I think a supra in the right colour is a nicer looking car, with the factory high rise spoiler and decent set of rubber poking out it's is still one of the best looking rear ends on the roads today

You can have fun in a Supra at 50mph flicking out of bends etc, very rewarding on the back roads. The GRT with all the electronic trickery and 4wd i think you would need to be doing seriously illegal speeds to get the same thrills.

Real world the Supra TT is the more usable car and far cheaper to buy than a GTR. Mine was a 99 facelift and eventually let it go for €7.5k

ShadowHearth

SV wrote: »

letter..turbo..

sure what use would an extra turbo be to ya?

lol so much noise just becouse i missed one "T" lol

ShadowHearth

tezzy_v2 wrote: »

I've never driven a GTR but i had a Supra VVTi TT for a year and it was a weapon. Mine had leather and all the toys inside and was definitely a machine for crossing continents in. I had an Altezza at the same time and while the tezza handled well, the supra was definitely more sure footed going into a corner at speed, despite having an extra 150bhp

I think a supra in the right colour is a nicer looking car, with the factory high rise spoiler and decent set of rubber poking out it's is still one of the best looking rear ends on the roads today

You can have fun in a Supra at 50mph flicking out of bends etc, very rewarding on the back roads. The GRT with all the electronic trickery and 4wd i think you would need to be doing seriously illegal speeds to get the same thrills.

Real world the Supra TT is the more usable car and far cheaper to buy than a GTR. Mine was a 99 facelift and eventually let it go for €7.5k

take out the fuse and its RWD lol

david....

id take a standard gtr34 over a well modded 550 bhp approx supra :eek:

bmw535d

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id take the skyline!

Armin_Tamzarian

R34 GTR

The R34 is a newer car and TBH I'd imagine most people would opt for it given the choice.
It's a matter of personal taste though and personally I prefer the Supra.
I love the styling of it plus it's handy to get 400BHP out of a TT without doing too much to it.
The stock traction control in the TTs is terrible but most have been replaced with the Race Logic system so cornering is fine with them.
I do prefer Supras to R34s but only barely.

martydunf

Armin_Tamzarian wrote: »

The R34 is a newer car and TBH I'd imagine most people would opt for it given the choice.
It's a matter of personal taste though and personally I prefer the Supra.
I love the styling of it plus it's handy to get 400BHP out of a TT without doing too much to it.
The stock traction control in the TTs is terrible but most have been replaced with the Race Logic system so cornering is fine with them.
I do prefer Supras to R34s but only barely.

May be slightly biased there Armin...;)

But yeah it does come down to personal taste.

Mini-E

Hi folks,
Just stumbled accross this and though id give my opinion...

Iv happened to own both these cars; a white Supra TT RZ and a bayside blue R34 GTR V-Spec. I had the supra for about 3 years, which i changed for an R34, which I still have, about 2 years now...

The supra was a fantastic car, it was mildly tuned(380bhp), but was uber reliable considering the power it had, id classify it as a powerful cruiser, but always regret never bringin it out on track. As noted above, the traction control was sh1t, but this could just be turned off. Iv never driver a car before that could light up the rear wheels so easily,...

I eventually changed it for an r34 gtr. BTW the price differecnce between two is HUGE, the gtr was over DOUBLE the price of the gtr, and i find it much more expensive to run than the supra, (its runnin 439bhp). The gtr is definetly more of a performace car compared to the supra, and although it runs mostly rwd(sendin power to the front when needed) its hard to lose traction unless your pushin really hard, huge amounts of grip(unlike supra) but powerslids is still posssible, not avisable on the road, track only:D

I dont think im goin to vote, iv enjoyed ownin both:D:D:D

Graham_B18C

R34 in bayside blue is my dream car, it's the wallpaper on my computer and phone!!! Any chance of sticking up some pics of it please?

Bonito

Graham_B18C wrote: »

R34 in bayside blue is my dream car, it's the wallpaper on my computer and phone!!! Any chance of sticking up some pics of it please?

There's one where I live. I'll ask the owner can I take a few pics next time I see him and throw it up for ya.

v300

R34 GTR

Supra TT, when you get bored with 330bhp, for €8k you can bring her up to a reliable 550bhp.

Marty at SSI in Antrim does this kind of work and works on about 70% of all the over 500bhp 1JZ GTE's and 2JZ GTE's in Ireland.

http://www.supraspecialists.moonfruit.com/

The reason I'm posting the link is that he makes massive power Supras vaguely affordable. Prior to Marty and Colin at SSI, I had to go to the UK and be man raped with prices to get professional work done.

Armin_Tamzarian

R34 GTR

v300 wrote: »

Supra TT, when you get bored with 330bhp, for €8k you can bring her up to a reliable 550bhp.

Marty at SSI in Antrim does this kind of work and works on about 70% of all the over 500bhp 1JZ GTE's and 2JZ GTE's in Ireland.

http://www.supraspecialists.moonfruit.com/

The reason I'm posting the link is that he makes massive power Supras vaguely affordable. Prior to Marty and Colin at SSI, I had to go to the UK and be man raped with prices to get professional work done.

What power are you putting out now?
Have you put any pics up in this thread?

Mini-E

Graham_B18C wrote: »

R34 in bayside blue is my dream car, it's the wallpaper on my computer and phone!!! Any chance of sticking up some pics of it please?

As requested....

Armin_Tamzarian

R34 GTR

Atomic Pineapple

Mini-E wrote: »

As requested....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v518/mini-e/gtrback.jpg?t=1269710675

I want!

How much?

Graham_B18C

Mini-E...absolute perfection! Someday...

Richie_c

For me its a GTR hands down simply because its my favourite car. I am a fan of the Supra but the R34 has my heart!

Its much cheaper to buy a Supra than it is to buy an R34 GTR so that would have an influence in any decision to buy anything!

4g92mit

If it was between a GTR vs NSX-R you'd have me thinking.

Armin_Tamzarian

R34 GTR

4g92mit wrote: »

If it was between a GTR vs NSX-R you'd have me thinking.

Well you've certainly got me thinking.
Thinking of what possible reason anyone would buy an NSX-R over a GTR
They're a nice car but they're not in the same class as GTR or a TT Supra.

Graham_B18C

Armin_Tamzarian wrote: »

Well you've certainly got me thinking.
Thinking of what possible reason anyone would buy an NSX-R over a GTR
They're a nice car but they're not in the same class as GTR or a TT Supra.

An NSX-R is in a class above both. They cost stupid money and are seriously rare.

Mini-E

Graham_B18C wrote: »

An NSX-R is in a class above both. They cost stupid money and are seriously rare.

And an r34 gtr z-tune is a class above that again:D

Graham_B18C

Mini-E wrote: »

And an r34 gtr z-tune is a class above that again:D

Is that an aftermarket mod or could they be bought new? I've only ever heard of a v spec and nur spec.

The rarity of the NSX-R is the main appeal for me. I read somewhere before that the recaros from the R are completely carbon fibre and cost 5k, I can't remember if that was each or not though

Mini-E

Graham_B18C wrote: »

Is that an aftermarket mod or could they be bought new? I've only ever heard of a v spec and nur spec.

The rarity of the NSX-R is the main appeal for me. I read somewhere before that the recaros from the R are completely carbon fibre and cost 5k, I can't remember if that was each or not though

There a final edition of the R34, factory built by nismo with 500bhp+, retailed at over uk£25 more than an R35 gtr


But a hell of alot more sought after than an R35 for any skyline fan....

Bonito

Nismo Z-tune R34. Apart from that stupid bonnet it's all gravy.

Graham_B18C

Mini-E wrote: »

There a final edition of the R34, factory built by nismo with 500bhp+, retailed at over uk£25 more than an R35 gtr


But a hell of alot more sought after than an R35 for any skyline fan....

I'll have to have an our read into these when I have some spare time. The NSX-R is still a very special car all the same but this GTR does sound nice.

Mini-E

Graham_B18C wrote: »

I'll have to have an our read into these when I have some spare time. The NSX-R is still a very special car all the same but this GTR does sound nice.

Due to the limited run of these there probably collectors items more than anything at this stage, there cost over uk£80 new, but think there worth more now.

An NSX-R is some machine too, id wouldnt mind one myself but very expensive for such an older car now and just isnt near as practical as the GTR, nor tunable...

zero19

I'd still take an NSX over a GTR personally

Midnight_EG

zero19 wrote: »

I'd still take an NSX over a GTR personally

Not even I would say that...and most here would know that's a big thing for me to say :P




Honestly nothing can beat the GT-R in terms of desirability!

4g92mit

5 NSX-R gt's were made so they could race in the GT500 in Japan & priced at a :cool: $462,400 or 357,019 euro.
http://www.rsportscars.com/honda/2005-jdm-honda-nsx-r-gt/

Pdfile

i'd take the gtr on the basis that their are a few around but most are body kit conversions....

also i suppose the same goes for the supra ( n/a with the fake BOV b/s )

skyline is a great car... can not only take some abuse but give some back !

Armin_Tamzarian

R34 GTR

Graham_B18C wrote: »

An NSX-R is in a class above both. They cost stupid money and are seriously rare.

I have a recurring problem where I confuse NSXs with 200SXs.
Not sure if I'm convinced they're a class above both but they're certainly at least in the same class.