Irish Paper 2... Honours

Ashashi

I finished at 11 30, don't know how but I answered everything, wrote a page on la bui bealtaine, page on fiche bhlian ag fas, page and a half on An Triail, and 2 and a half pages on poetry all together, and a page on stair na geailge.

what i wrote seems right, according to my teacher, but finishing after 2 hours, little bit worried. It's not one of my 6, but still, worried.

EuropeanSon

I did ****. Wrote great answers on the stories and decent ones on Stair, then went hypoglycaemic (I'm diabetic), couldn't concentrate and couldn't remember anything for An Triail (1.5 pgs) or poetry (3.5 pgs total). Left at 11:50.

EvilLlamaThingy

What poems came up? (Didn't do HL, but I used to so I'm curious)

Xevkin

EuropeanSon wrote: »

I did ****. Wrote great answers on the stories and decent ones on Stair, then went hypoglycaemic (I'm diabetic), couldn't concentrate and couldn't remember anything for An Triail (1.5 pgs) or poetry (3.5 pgs total). Left at 11:50.

Jeez

EuropeanSon

Xevkin wrote: »

Jeez

Oh well. I wasn't counting on Irish, so it's not too bad, and I'd say I passed.

chaoticmess

EuropeanSon wrote: »

I did ****. Wrote great answers on the stories and decent ones on Stair, then went hypoglycaemic (I'm diabetic), couldn't concentrate and couldn't remember anything for An Triail (1.5 pgs) or poetry (3.5 pgs total). Left at 11:50.

Ouch... is there anything you can do in an exam situation if that happens?

This is just another of those examples of why one or two exams is really making a mockery of all the work people put in. You put in two years of work into something and then if you have a bad day it might mess it up!
EuropeanSon I'm sure it won't affect you that much and I'm sure you still did great, I'm not saying it to worry you, I'm just saying it as I'm hoping the SEC might finally listen....... one day!! :rolleyes:

Ashashi

EuropeanSon wrote: »

I did ****. Wrote great answers on the stories and decent ones on Stair, then went hypoglycaemic (I'm diabetic), couldn't concentrate and couldn't remember anything for An Triail (1.5 pgs) or poetry (3.5 pgs total). Left at 11:50.

Oh man, that is bad luck. Sorry to hear.

I am only going for a C though, you going for an A?

zam

The pass poems were as predicted - Nil aon Ni and Jack and then Faoiseamh a Gheobhasa for the compulsory.
The honours poems were Uirchill a Chreagain and an Chead Drama. The CD question was a bit much, featured the word "allegorical"...
The first an Triail question was pretty hard, I stared at it for a good ten minutes before I realised what it actually meant!
And stair.... Fiannaiocht was the only thing I knew....... :P

Ashashi

zam wrote: »

The pass poems were as predicted - Nil aon Ni and Jack and then Faoiseamh a Gheobhasa for the compulsory.
The honours poems were Uirchill a Chreagain and an Chead Drama. The CD question was a bit much, featured the word "allegorical"...
The first an Triail question was pretty hard, I stared at it for a good ten minutes before I realised what it actually meant!
And stair.... Fiannaiocht was the only thing I knew....... :P

I liked an Chead Drama, I said that there was a lot of imagery. The stage is life, each scene is a person's life etc. I only wrote half a page though for a, but I got the point across. Wrote a page and a half for an Triail, which I am happy about.

I wrote about Peig Sayers and Padraig Pearce. Out of my hole :P

Mayoegian

EuropeanSon wrote: »

I did ****. Wrote great answers on the stories and decent ones on Stair, then went hypoglycaemic (I'm diabetic), couldn't concentrate and couldn't remember anything for An Triail (1.5 pgs) or poetry (3.5 pgs total). Left at 11:50.

Did you not bring something to drink or eat that would help? Make sure you do from now on....
I sound like your mother now....:p

EuropeanSon

Ashashi wrote: »

Oh man, that is bad luck. Sorry to hear.

I am only going for a C though, you going for an A?

No, I got a B in the mocks and was hoping for similar, but I have 5 subjects that are definitely better, and 1 other that's probably better so it's not so bad. Better it happened now than during Chemistry or Applied Maths!

EuropeanSon

chaoticmess wrote: »

Ouch... is there anything you can do in an exam situation if that happens?

This is just another of those examples of why one or two exams is really making a mockery of all the work people put in. You put in two years of work into something and then if you have a bad day it might mess it up!
EuropeanSon I'm sure it won't affect you that much and I'm sure you still did great, I'm not saying it to worry you, I'm just saying it as I'm hoping the SEC might finally listen....... one day!! :rolleyes:

Don't worry on my account, I wasn't counting on Irish. I did go out and get something in the canteen, but I was out of sorts afterwards. That'll teach me to be more careful, as I said, better now than later.

psycho mantis

zam wrote: »

The pass poems were as predicted - Nil aon Ni and Jack and then Faoiseamh a Gheobhasa for the compulsory.
The honours poems were Uirchill a Chreagain and an Chead Drama. The CD question was a bit much, featured the word "allegorical"...
The first an Triail question was pretty hard, I stared at it for a good ten minutes before I realised what it actually meant!
And stair.... Fiannaiocht was the only thing I knew....... :P

The poems on ordinary level were Jack, Faoiseamh a Gheobhasa and then Gealt for cumpulsory

Ashashi

EuropeanSon wrote: »

No, I got a B in the mocks and was hoping for similar, but I have 5 subjects that are definitely better, and 1 other that's probably better so it's not so bad. Better it happened now than during Chemistry or Applied Maths!

I got a C2, but I think my answers were better this time round, but I don't think I wrote enough.

Cormac2791

Thought everything was easy apart from higher level poems. Done uircheall an chreagain, just winged my way through it!! Was hoping for an a

s0ur_cherry

thought it was lovely altogether bar faoiseamh a gheobhadsa... 4 years in row? bit excessive. my answer for codarsnacht in that was more or less the same as my answer for codarsnacht in nil aon ni.

ak_123

what the hell sis the first question mean on antrial on higher paper? i got coimhint as struggle locht and dualici as faults.

then cosulacht means similar and love??? the struggle is made by the faults of the people as well as love?

cleirigh06

I wrote:
2 pages on Clare sa speir
1 line on Fiche Blian ag fas (lol)
1 page and a half on stair na gaeilge
5 pages on An Trial
5 or 6 on An Chead Drama
3 pages on Faoisimh
4 on Jack

MavisDavis

Lovely paper, overall. Had to make stuff up for Stair, but sure that's always the way isn't it?

Prose was nice and I was extremely happy with the poetry section. Faoiseamh, I love you!:D

Didn't know what the first An Triail question specifically meant. I had an idea,but it was sort of awkwardly phrased and I didn't want to chance it so I did the second one. Just over a page before I ran out of time!

Eire-Dearg

Hands up didn't do Stair na Gaelige!

Good riddance to the worst syllabus in history of bad syllabuses.

Psychedelia

ak_123 wrote: »

what the hell sis the first question mean on antrial on higher paper? i got coimhint as struggle locht and dualici as faults.

then cosulacht means similar and love??? the struggle is made by the faults of the people as well as love?

i thought it was:
the main conflicts grow from the humane(?) weakness/faults that are passed off as love?

heres the question for anyone who actually knows what it means

"fásann príomhchoimhlintí an dráma as lochtanna nó duáilcí daonna a cheltear faoi chosúlacht an ghrá"
dean plé blah blah

vivalaspoon

ak_123 wrote: »

what the hell sis the first question mean on antrial on higher paper?

It meant "the main conflicts in the drama come from the vices and faults that are hidden beneath the appearance of love."

Or at least that's what I thought.
If I'm wrong then the correcter who gets my paper will be really confused...:P

Enid.

It wasn't that bad! I was so surprised.

I managed to do the first An Triail question, I'm pretty sure it mean that the main conflicts in the story grow through human faults in the disguise of love! Thus Maire refuses to give her child up for adoption and then they all die. Her faults (innocence and naievety) allow the conflict/problem to grow. Or something.

tommycarey1

I was happy overall today. Everything went well. Just one thing an triail. I did the second one on dramatic effects. I said that the effects were tragedy and the influence of the church. I linked it in really well though. Do you think that is ok, I'm just thinking about it here. A dramatic technique is a technique that creates drama in a play. Surely that would work would it? I'm paranoid here:):)

OoOROiSiNOoO

handy enough paper like i took a massive risk and didn't revise Stair that came up last year, learned 2 HL poems (Chead Drama + An tOilean), 2 pros, 3 OL poems and everything I learned came up!! An Triail Q was very confusing but got 2.5 pages which is twice as much as i've ever done on that. Delighted with the paper!!!

BarnhallBull

Overall a nice paper I felt.

CSS questions were lovely, same with 20 bliain. Would've liked to do the wuestion about Muiris but I coudln't remember which lad was which so I had to do the other one :P
An Trial question was great but asked in a very complex way so i'd imagine people had issues with the translation.
Jack and Níl aon Ní were huge tips so that was great, not a fan of Faoiseamh but the questions were ok.
Love An Chéad Drama so was delighted to see that.
Stair sucked a bit, shocked not to see An Fhiannaíocht there.

Not certain I got an A1 on the paper but should have enough in hand from the other aspects to bring me up. Only 3 left...

roll on summer 10!

vivalaspoon wrote: »

It meant "the main conflicts in the drama come from the vices and faults that are hidden beneath the appearance of love."

Or at least that's what I thought.
If I'm wrong then the correcter who gets my paper will be really confused...:P

No you're right that's what it means, bitch of a question! Took me a while to figure it out and i asked my teacher afterwards!

aoife365

Omg its was crap!
Im fluent in irish and was hoping for a A! The question on the triail was horrible!
Eh nw im expecting a B2 or B3

ceol18

overall it went quite well for me, great as i was the only one in my centre doing higher level so i had an hour of complete silence at the end =D =D hopefully got me the A :P

BarnhallBull

The question on An Trial was no different from most other years, they just like to twist the question to make it seem more complex.

As log as you mentioned how people who should have shown her love, or pretended to, contributed to the conflict you're on to a winner. This isn't an English exam, they don't expect the same in-depth discussion.

PARARORY

Nice enough paper.

I wrote;
An Triail wasnt great but i will get at lest 20 / 40 minimum i'd say - 1.5 pages
Jack - 2.5 pages
Faoiseamh - almost 2 pages
Calre Sa Speir - 4 pages
Fich B - 1.25 pahes
An Chead Drama - 3 pages
Stair - 1.5 pages on canuinti then 1 page on bealoideas..

My writing is average!

roll on summer 10!

Psychedelia wrote: »

i thought it was:
the main conflicts grow from the humane(?) weakness/faults that are passed off as love?

heres the question for anyone who actually knows what it means

"fásann príomhchoimhlintí an dráma as lochtanna nó duáilcí daonna a cheltear faoi chosúlacht an ghrá"
dean plé blah blah

It means the main themes of the play grow from the fault of those who hid behind the appearance of love. I talked bout the Mum being a bitch, Padraig being an ass and society in general just being pure stingy! My teacher said that should be okay cos Maire's mum and Padraig should've loved Maire but didn't and only pretended etc

roll on summer 10!

PARARORY wrote: »

Nice enough paper.

I wrote;
An Triail wasnt great but i will get at lest 20 / 40 minimum i'd say - 1.5 pages
Jack - 2.5 pages
Faoiseamh - almost 2 pages
Calre Sa Speir - 4 pages
Fich B - 1.25 pahes
An Chead Drama - 3 pages
Stair - 1.5 pages on canuinti then 1 page on bealoideas..

My writing is average!

I wrote about 13/14 pages altogether, hope that's enough

BarnhallBull

It means the main themes of the play grow from the fault of those who hid behind the appearance of love. I talked bout the Mum being a bitch, Padraig being an ass and society in general just being pure stingy! My teacher said that should be okay cos Maire's mum and Padraig should've loved Maire but didn't and only pretended etc

That's exactly what I did

pa4

lovely paper in my opinion. Better get an A :P
I got a good 4 pages out of an triail wasn't to bad.
2.5 pages on clare sa speir
1.5 on fiche blian ag fas
5 all together for poetry
1.5 for stair na gaelge

Paper 1 was tough though my essay was good but i was lost for the reading comrehensions but i reckon i could scrape that A:)

PARARORY

I wrote about 13/14 pages altogether, hope that's enough

Its quantity not quality - quality not quantity!

If the question if out of 40. You get 35 is for evidence that you know your text and 5 for your Irish.

So even if your irish isnt perfect you could easily still get a High B , possibly an a depending on how generous the examiner is feeling

So happy that irish english and maths are fully finished...

ceol18

i don't know why everyone puts such faith in writing pages and pages...it's really quality over quantity in these things not dissing anyone, just saying

student01

roll on summer 10! wrote: »

It means the main themes of the play grow from the fault of those who hid behind the appearance of love. I talked bout the Mum being a bitch, Padraig being an ass and society in general just being pure stingy! My teacher said that should be okay cos Maire's mum and Padraig should've loved Maire but didn't and only pretended etc

Yeah I did pretty much the same...
I said the mother should be showing love towards her daughter but failed at this and instead her main worry was about what others would think.
Then for Padraig, I talked about his lies and promises... and how Maire was led on and believed Padraig loved her but in fact it was all just pretense.
I also used Bean Uí Chinsealaigh as well, and I just kept referring back to the question saying that these characters' faults have led to the groth of the conflicts in the play, etc

Overall, I was delighted with the paper... especially since I was sick last night and couldn't study

pa4

ceol18 wrote: »

i don't know why everyone puts such faith in writing pages and pages...it's really quality over quantity in these things not dissing anyone, just saying

ya most of the marks go for the quality of irish u could write loads but stil do really bad

roll on summer 10!

PARARORY wrote: »

Its quantity not quality - quality not quantity!

If the question if out of 40. You get 35 is for evidence that you know your text and 5 for your Irish.

So even if your irish isnt perfect you could easily still get a High B , possibly an a depending on how generous the examiner is feeling

So happy that irish english and maths are fully finished...

My irish is grand and normally I don't care about the quantity, plus I've tiny writing! :P just the fact everyon is posting up how much they've written is freaking me out! Anyway watevs, never have to write anything in Iriah again!!

PARARORY

don't know why everyone puts such faith in writing pages and pages...it's really quality over quantity in these things not dissing anyone, just saying

Your completely right , but if if you have the time and ability to keep writing then why not do so and impress? Like Irish is one of my best subjects and i've put in tonnes of work over the last two years , yeah sure i could have stopped my peotry question after a page , but I was able to write more and I had the time! Its hard to translate 2 years of work into a 3 hour exam!

Wolfe Tone

I though it was hard

BarnhallBull

ya most of the marks go for the quality of irish u could write loads but stil do really bad

Not on paper 2. For the rest of the Irish exam this is true, but the vast majority of marks on paper 2 go for content, very few for quality of language. Paper 2 is where the majority of fluent speakers fall down as they neglect the texts thinking they can make up for it with nice language. Can't be done.

emchugh

couldn't understand some questions but wrote what I knew! worst syllabus in history though! too much to learn:(

ajjmk

my an triail question was bruuutal! i did the 1st question, but i didnt understand it! so i practically just wrote a summary, and re-wrote the question at the end of each paragraph... :eek::L ...i got 2 & a half pages outa it tho.. :P:cool:

annainez

Anyone here do 'A Thig Na Tit Orm'? I freaking loved the Chicago question, just wondering what ye thought?

My prós was really bad, I did Cearrbhach Mac Cába and the first 2o bliain question... Yuck. But then again I hadn't studied for prós. Happy with the rest of it though Hoping a got a dacent B!

greener greene

annainez wrote: »

Anyone here do 'A Thig Na Tit Orm'? I freaking loved the Chicago question, just wondering what ye thought?

My prós was really bad, I did Cearrbhach Mac Cába and the first 2o bliain question... Yuck. But then again I hadn't studied for prós. Happy with the rest of it though Hoping a got a dacent B!

Yeah I did A Thig NA Tit Orm. Both the questions were great, I did the other one about music as I though I could waffle on for a bit longer :pac:

Orlaladuck

Nearly screamed when I saw an chead drama I was so happy it was there! I thought it was grand! Nearly flipped when I saw the An Triail Q but then i saw 'two dramatic techniques' which was all I knew so I was fine! So happy about it!

fauxshow

I thought it was a much harder paper than last year's... I mean writing about the faults and vices of humanity as opposed to writing about the men of the play for An Triail, the trick question for An Chead Drama about it being allegorical but really about the poet...

Maybe I just let nerves get the better of me but I messed this paper up... my Irish is near fluent and I've put a huge amount of work into Irish over the past two years, and on bringing my fluency up over the last six years. I got an A1 on Paper II in my mock and 89.3% overall in my mock and I've always really enjoyed Irish as a subject, had a brilliant teacher who worked us hard... and now it feels like it was all for nothing

ceol18

fauxshow wrote: »

I thought it was a much harder paper than last year's... I mean writing about the faults and vices of humanity as opposed to writing about the men of the play for An Triail, the trick question for An Chead Drama about it being allegorical but really about the poet...

Maybe I just let nerves get the better of me but I messed this paper up... my Irish is near fluent and I've put a huge amount of work into Irish over the past two years, and on bringing my fluency up over the last six years. I got an A1 on Paper II in my mock and 89.3% overall in my mock and I've always really enjoyed Irish as a subject, had a brilliant teacher who worked us hard... and now it feels like it was all for nothing

i felt the exact same yesterday, my essay didn't go half as well as planned =( i'm just counting on the oral and aural bringing me up because i know i well in them (and seeing as you're almost fluent i'm sure you did too =D) try not to focus on one bad part...and i'm sure it wasn't half as bad as you think!

EuropeanSon

fauxshow wrote: »

I thought it was a much harder paper than last year's... I mean writing about the faults and vices of humanity as opposed to writing about the men of the play for An Triail, the trick question for An Chead Drama about it being allegorical but really about the poet...

Maybe I just let nerves get the better of me but I messed this paper up... my Irish is near fluent and I've put a huge amount of work into Irish over the past two years, and on bringing my fluency up over the last six years. I got an A1 on Paper II in my mock and 89.3% overall in my mock and I've always really enjoyed Irish as a subject, had a brilliant teacher who worked us hard... and now it feels like it was all for nothing

Don't worry. If you are as good as you say you are, you will be in the top few %, and the top few % get As. Marking schemes are redone to make sure of this.