Are people getting less intelligent? (Yes)

Jackovarian

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niqrrmev4mA



Ahh shur shes great.

That_Guy

I spend most of my time on Facebook and Twitter talking crap about other people. Does that make me an exception?

Hank_Jones

How do you happen across someone called Lady Faghag?

What were you searching for?

That_Guy

Hank_Jones wrote: »

How do you happen across someone called Lady Faghag?

What were you searching for?

Mmmm. I'm tempted now.

Holy Jesus

/Adds to friends.

Jackovarian

Well it might aswell be her stage name!

120_Minutes

Op watch the film idiocracy and lament that it may be a prediction rather than fiction.

Jackovarian

Funny you say that, I watched it the other night!

Things are nearly that bad as it is!

Biggins

Jackovarian wrote: »

So I just happened across the new Lady Faghag video on the net, watched a bit of it and couldn't help but notice all the comments below it praising her and her "artsy" videos...

First off I'm ashamed at myself for watching some of the bloody thing, but people actually like this crap and think its somehow cutting edge and brilliant? Also, people seem to think shes quirky and "mad". Am I the only one that notices its all an act. She's not "mad" by any sense of the word. If anything shes mundayne and irrelevant.

The real problem is the number of people of this mindset (1 billion views or something on youtube). I'm sure 90% of you reading this disagree with me, mostly because you're part of this group and have long since lost any sense of critical thought.

Honestly, before you decide to bombard this thread with comments, ask yourself this:
1. What percentage of your day is spent talking about tv soaps and/or celebrities?
2. Do you buy crappy newspapers, womens mags or lads mags?
3. Do you spend a lot of time on Facebook/Twitter talking crap about yourself?
4. Do you describe yourself as "mad" or "crazy"?
5. When the weekend comes do you shout it from the rooftops that you are going out "woohoo"?
6. Do you shy away from intellectual conversation or say something witty like "Oh here we go again!" when somebody tries to talk about a relevant or important issue?

1. 0% - zilch.
2. Nope, none, nada.
3. You got to be kidding me! No.
4. No. Unique.
5. As my work is over any 7 days of the week, no.
6. I'm usually the one doing the boring (as some might see it) relevant talking.

Yes, parts of our world is fcuked - but others aren't.
You can either give up, swim in it in the same direction or chose one of your own.

dr.bollocko

Methinks somebodys prescription might have run out unexpectedly.

orourkeda

People are stupid.

Tell us something we dont know.

IITYWYBMAD

Jackovarian wrote: »

So I just happened across the new Lady Faghag video on the net, watched a bit of it and couldn't help but notice all the comments below it praising her and her "artsy" videos...

First off I'm ashamed at myself for watching some of the bloody thing, but people actually like this crap and think its somehow cutting edge and brilliant? Also, people seem to think shes quirky and "mad". Am I the only one that notices its all an act. She's not "mad" by any sense of the word. If anything shes mundayne and irrelevant.

So if somebody does not subscribe to your line of opinion they are somehow "less intelligent"?

The real problem is the number of people of this mindset (1 billion views or something on youtube). I'm sure 90% of you reading this disagree with me, mostly because you're part of this group and have long since lost any sense of critical thought.

You looked at it, did you not? And yet you are not of this mindset. Is it therefore, that hard for you to work out that maybe not all of the viewers are of the same mindset? A person of limited intelligence could see that ffs.

Honestly, before you decide to bombard this thread with comments, ask yourself this:
1)What percentage of your day is spent talking about tv soaps and/or celebrities?
2)Do you buy crappy newspapers, womens mags or lads mags?
3)Do you spend a lot of time on Facebook/Twitter talking crap about yourself?
4)Do you describe yourself as "mad" or "crazy"?
5)When the weekend comes do you shout it from the rooftops that you are going out "woohoo"?
6)Do you shy away from intellectual conversation or say something witty like "Oh here we go again!" when somebody tries to talk about a relevant or important issue?

1)0%
2)No, but I'd like you to define what you consider crappy.
3)No, don't have an account, but millions do.....
4)No
5)No, who does? Do you?
6)Intellectual conversation...hmmmmm..only when it actually is more benign than the starter actually thinks it is.

The world is F*!$%*

Indeed it is, and thank f**k we have people like you to save us!! Yawn...

alwaysadub

So,if we answer no to most of your questions,we're just like you then OP?

Think i'd prefere to be classed as stupid tbh.

rovert

Jackovarian wrote: »

So I just happened across the new Lady Faghag video on the net, watched a bit of it and couldn't help but notice all the comments below it praising her and her "artsy" videos...

First off I'm ashamed at myself for watching some of the bloody thing, but people actually like this crap and think its somehow cutting edge and brilliant? Also, people seem to think shes quirky and "mad". Am I the only one that notices its all an act. She's not "mad" by any sense of the word. If anything shes mundayne and irrelevant.

The real problem is the number of people of this mindset (1 billion views or something on youtube). I'm sure 90% of you reading this disagree with me, mostly because you're part of this group and have long since lost any sense of critical thought.

Honestly, before you decide to bombard this thread with comments, ask yourself this:
What percentage of your day is spent talking about tv soaps and/or celebrities?
Do you buy crappy newspapers, womens mags or lads mags?
Do you spend a lot of time on Facebook/Twitter talking crap about yourself?
Do you describe yourself as "mad" or "crazy"?
When the weekend comes do you shout it from the rooftops that you are going out "woohoo"?
Do you shy away from intellectual conversation or say something witty like "Oh here we go again!" when somebody tries to talk about a relevant or important issue?

Yes? Well then you are of this mindset! There is some good news for you though, your kind are growing in number everyday!

The world is F*!$%*

^ This lad doesnt get it. Your intelligence is dragging everyone else down. So the answer is yes.

Renn

dr.bollocko wrote: »

Methinks somebodys prescription might have run out unexpectedly.

Says the guy that's a mod of ranting and raving...

stovelid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClgfwBMsB1w

bonerm

Me stoopid? That's unpossible.

mikom

Jackovarian wrote: »

long since lost any sense of critical thought.

Here's some critical thought.
Same shit, different decade/century.............. delete as applicable.

Jackovarian

At what point did I claim to be intelligent?

You really missed the point of the post.

I also said that I'm ashamed for watching the video.

Again thats irrelevant overall.

The questions I posed weren't supposed to be interpreted as some kind of life rules.

I seem to have touched a nerve however.

orourkeda

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhdhH3cVhUE

rovert

Jackovarian wrote: »

At what point did I claim to be intelligent?

You really missed the point of the post.

I also said that I'm ashamed for watching the video.

Again thats irrelevant overall.

The questions I posed weren't supposed to be interpreted as some kind of life rules.

I seem to have touched a nerve however.

:rolleyes:

I pine for the more cerebal days of Madonna too.

Biggins

Jackovarian wrote: »

...I seem to have touched a nerve however.

Naa, you just touched your keyboard.
Now thats where you should have stopped.

weiland79

Ra la oh la la, uh la lalala......

Say's it all really

That_Guy

Jackovarian wrote: »

At what point did I claim to be intelligent?

Jackovarian wrote: »

The real problem is the number of people of this mindset (1 billion views or something on youtube). I'm sure 90% of you reading this disagree with me, mostly because you're part of this group and have long since lost any sense of critical thought.

This would leave me to believe that you would consider yourself as part of the 10%.

ScumLord

I've thrown out my tele, I haven't a clue what's happening in the world other than what I read here. I assume that's makes me super intelligent as I pay no attention whatsoever to traditional media.

Niall Keane

Someone politically incorrect might add that such people often start breeding in their early teens, while educated career orientated persons have a couple of sprogs in their mid-late thirties, by the time the original wasters highly developed individuals are grandparents. So someone who could educate their child, pass on their knowledge and experience, and progress the human race's intellectual and creative abilities does so after 30 years while the fools in action have 6 kids and 4-5 grandchildren, in that same time period, nurtured as well as they could be by teenage parents. But it would be wrong to suggest that teenagers / children cannot raise children to the same standards as a world wary 35+ parent? After all they certainly have no problem financially as the 35 year old pays for their welfare in tax.

mikom

Jackovarian wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niqrrmev4mA



Ahh shur shes great.

They should send you out to sort the Israeli palestinian conflict.......... intelligence and staying power is what is required to solve that particular situation.

Jackovarian

Finally, someone rational.

I was referring to Niall by the way.



And whats the point saying whats already been said? Couldn't be arsed fighting my corner on this one. People on here have honed their nit picking skills and honestly dont seem to give a crap anyway.

Wazdakka

I know I am...
Daily

I call it "the dumbening"

It's ok tho,
Ignorance is bliss

bonerm

Niall Keane wrote: »

Someone politically incorrect might add that such people often start breeding in their early teens, while educated career orientated persons have a couple of sprogs in their mid-late thirties, by the time the original wasters highly developed individuals are grandparents. So someone who could educate their child, pass on their knowledge and experience, and progress the human race's intellectual and creative abilities does so after 30 years while the fools in action have 6 kids and 4-5 grandchildren, in that same time period, nurtured as well as they could be by teenage parents. But it would be wrong to suggest that teenagers / children cannot raise children to the same standards as a world wary 35+ parent? After all they certainly have no problem financially as the 35 year old pays for their welfare in tax.

I used to think the same but then I came to the conclusion that somehow the West needs consumers more than it needs producers or innovators (certainly in terms of a ratio at least). There's no other explanation as to why certain sections of the population are allowed (and even encouraged) to perpetuate. Basically we need more people doing mcjobs than we need doing "real" jobs and our society is being shaped and funneled in that direction to fit the demand.

mikom

Jackovarian wrote: »

Couldn't be arsed fighting my corner on this one. People on here have honed their nit picking skills and honestly dont seem to give a crap anyway.

René Descartes said something similar once.

PeterIanStaker

Stupiding? me no know.

Dudess

Jackovarian wrote: »

I seem to have touched a nerve however.

Anyone else hate this smug, presumptuous expression which always gets resorted to as part of a toys-being-thrown-out-of-the-pram-wah-wah-mammy-they're-mean-they-don't-agree-with-me exercise? It implies people are defensive because deep down they know the OP is right, but actually it's the OP getting stroppy because people don't share their opinion.
OP, you haven't "touched a nerve", you have however barged on here insulting people.

Niall Keane wrote: »

Someone politically incorrect might add that such people often start breeding in their early teens, while educated career orientated persons have a couple of sprogs in their mid-late thirties, by the time the original wasters highly developed individuals are grandparents. So someone who could educate their child, pass on their knowledge and experience, and progress the human race's intellectual and creative abilities does so after 30 years while the fools in action have 6 kids and 4-5 grandchildren, in that same time period, nurtured as well as they could be by teenage parents. But it would be wrong to suggest that teenagers / children cannot raise children to the same standards as a world wary 35+ parent? After all they certainly have no problem financially as the 35 year old pays for their welfare in tax.

What about all those people who were having children very young in previous generations?

Jackovarian wrote: »

Finally, someone who agrees with me, therefore they're rational.

FYP

Couldn't be arsed fighting my corner on this one. People on here have honed their nit picking skills and honestly dont seem to give a crap anyway.

Translation: people don't agree with me and I am incapable of holding a reasoned argument.

Doesn't mean people here don't think Lady GaGa, celeb gossip etc are sh1te though - they just don't appreciate being talked down to by you.

Min

Some people are stupid.

Our education minister is stupid, she has asked for a grade E in maths to be acceptable for third level education.

raah!

There are too many threads on here with people calling others stupid in an attempt to show that they aren't.

conorhal

90 per cent of people are ignorant as pig****. That's the way its always been.

But never have the unwashed masses been so aggressively anti-intellectual in western Europe, nor has learning been possessed of so little value or admiration.
Never has a substantive, informed argument counted for so little or the brainless, Joe Duffy calling, chattering, troglodytes counted for so much.
It used to be that great men shaped nations, and not every gob****e that had the dexterity to text Newstalk.
It used to be that the lowest common denominator knew it was the lowest common denominator and shut it's mouth for any purpose other than breathing.
The barbarians are at the gates I tell ya and the hero's of the Enlightenment must be rolling in their graves! Great empires are rarely destroyed, they merely rot from within.



BTW, does anybody know if Katie Price has really been knocked up by that cage fighter bloke? Inquiring minds need to know!

Killer Pigeon

Apparently people are getting higher results in such exams as the Leaving Cert. But there's also allegations of grade inflation and the like for the Leaving cert and college exams. This might suggest in fact that the average person's intelligence is either the same as it was 100 years ago or it is a little lower. One must not excuse the fact that intelligence and knowledge aren't exactly the same. One should ask if the average person's ability to rationalise has changed over the past one hundred years.

However, according to evolution an average humans ability to rationalise should be increasing and only after a period of several thousand years would a noticeable difference be recognised. Of course, an increase of intelligence would not increase in a linear fashion, most likely in an exponential fashion to a global maximum. Perhaps human are close to that global maximum in terms of intelligence ...

Killer Pigeon

Min wrote: »

Some people are stupid.

Our education minister is stupid, she has asked for a grade E in maths to be acceptable for third level education.

I agree that one's ability to do maths can often reflect that person's understanding of logic. However, that said why should someone need to have passed maths at all if they wanted to have a degree in a certain field of the Arts or Humanities. Obviously, you'd need a good grasp of maths if you wanted to do something in the field of Science, technology or Engineering so the requirement for maths should in no way be lowered for those areas.

ScumLord

The human animal is an incredible piece of machinery. The brain is just magical in it's processing ability. We're all the same machine so I just don't buy the most people are stupid argument because that would mean we're all stupid.

These people have just been lured into filling their amazing brains full of pointless trivial nonsense. They've bought into it hook line and sinker so are in no mood to go changing a successful method of survival in the modern world.

If you want to change that destroy the media.

Min

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

I agree that one's ability to do maths can often reflect that person's understanding of logic. However, that said why should someone need to have passed maths at all if they wanted to have a degree in a certain field of the Arts or Humanities. Obviously, you'd need a good grasp of maths if you wanted to do something in the field of Science, technology or Engineering so the requirement for maths should in no way be lowered for those areas.

I see what you are saying and we agree to some degree. However it is dumbing down education if a fail grade is good enough. It is just the principle and the message it sends out, don't worry if you get an E in maths, it doesn't matter.
I would guess only a small percentage of people fail maths.

Min

ScumLord wrote: »

The human animal is an incredible piece of machinery. The brain is just magical in it's processing ability. We're all the same machine so I just don't buy the most people are stupid argument because that would mean we're all stupid.

These people have just been lured into filling their amazing brains full of pointless trivial nonsense. They've bought into it hook line and sinker so are in no mood to go changing a successful method of survival in the modern world.

If you want to change that destroy the media.

I would say some people's machines are top of the range, others are like models years out of date with a hard drive that doesn't collect information in a proper manner so it can be accessed when required.
This is why some have a below average IQ, most are average IQ and the rest have an above average IQ.

I think the OP used the correct language when they used intelligent instead of stupid.

Killer Pigeon

Min wrote: »

I would guess only a small percentage of people fail maths.

Well it depends on what level of maths. The failure rate is much higher for HL maths than OL maths.