9 month old twins attacked by fox

Zombienosh

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Fox-Twin-Baby-Girls-Attacked-By-Fox-In-Bedroom-In-Stoke-Newington-North-London/Article/201006115644585?lpos=UK_News_Top_Stories_Header_3&lid=ARTICLE_15644585_Fox%3A_Twin_Baby_Girls_Attacked_By_Fox_In_Bedroom_In_Stoke_Newington%2C_North_London

Two baby twin sisters are seriously ill in hospital after apparently being attacked by a fox while sleeping in their cots in east London.

Mental, I always encounter foxes, never met a vicious one though...

Yeah, I seen that on Fox news

Darksaga87

Poor poor Megan...

orourkeda

Cockney fox cant

stovelid

Boom boom.

Zombienosh

maybe this is to increase fox hunting or furriers business?

Tar.Aldarion

attacked...like a fox.

how the fook they get in
/not reading it

Luap

What a "Sly Fox"

stovelid

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

attacked...like a fox.

how the fook they get in
/not reading it

It "crept into the house" is all that's said.

Bizarre story though.

WIZE

Poor kids

Tar.Aldarion

stovelid wrote: »

It "crept into the house" is all that's said.

Bizarre story though.

So it didn't even make loud noises? Jaysus!

tallaghtoutlaws

Makes you wonder did the family dog attack them and they put it down to a fox attack. Fox attacks on humans are surely a rare occurrence especially in an upstairs bedroom.

Blobby George

orourkeda wrote: »

Cockney fox cant

Can't what?

445279.ie

Why does the report say "two baby twin sisters". As opposed to how many?? Anyone ever heard of 3 twins or 4 twins, this bugs me alot :mad:

stovelid

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

Makes you wonder did the family dog attack them and they put it down to a fox attack. Fox attacks on humans are surely a rare occurrence especially in an upstairs bedroom.

Thought this too.

If they do have a family mutt, he's definitely going to come under suspicion.

Jimmy Garlic

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

Makes you wonder did the family dog attack them and they put it down to a fox attack. Fox attacks on humans are surely a rare occurrence especially in an upstairs bedroom.

Yeah, there is something very fishy about this sceal. Foxes are extremely reclusive animals. Jumping into cots in an upstairs bedroom in East London..... Yeah right, a likely story.

pensioner Margaret O’Shaughnessy was mauled in Edinburgh in 2004.

"Mauled" lol... A fox not big enough to "maul" anyone

tallaghtoutlaws

445279.ie wrote: »

Why does the report say "two baby twin sisters". As opposed to how many?? Anyone every heard of 3 twins or 4 twins, this bugs me alot :mad:

As a Twin this is one of my pet hates.

Cormac2791

Blobby George wrote: »

Can't what?

It's the accent mate =]

homerhop

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

"Mauled" lol... A fox not big enough to "maul" anyone

A fox is very capable of mauling a 9month old baby

445279.ie

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

As a Twin this is one of my pet hates.

I am not a twin, but I feel your pain

pickarooney

homerhop wrote: »

A fox is very capable of mauling a 9month old baby

It's hard enough to get humans to line up right and push, let alone a wild canine of limited intellect.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

AlcoholicA wrote: »

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Fox-Twin-Baby-Girls-Attacked-By-Fox-In-Bedroom-In-Stoke-Newington-North-London/Article/201006115644585?lpos=UK_News_Top_Stories_Header_3&lid=ARTICLE_15644585_Fox%3A_Twin_Baby_Girls_Attacked_By_Fox_In_Bedroom_In_Stoke_Newington%2C_North_London



Mental, I always encounter foxes, never met a vicious one though...

Have you ever been close enough to know? They can be vicious, it's a dog after all.

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

Makes you wonder did the family dog attack them and they put it down to a fox attack. Fox attacks on humans are surely a rare occurrence especially in an upstairs bedroom.

I have heard of people been bitten by foxes before, but not like this.

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

Yeah, there is something very fishy about this sceal. Foxes are extremely reclusive animals. Jumping into cots in an upstairs bedroom in East London..... Yeah right, a likely story.



"Mauled" lol... A fox not big enough to "maul" anyone

Just show's how little you know about the animal.

Foxes are quite common in built up areas, the town fox lives off your waste.


Poor kids though...

Mr Benevolent

Why is this news?

juice1304

stovelid wrote: »

Thought this too.

If they do have a family mutt, he's definitely going to come under suspicion.

no it would'nt all they have to do is check the bite marks, and why do you think they would lie it would be stupid to put your children at risk after they had already been attacked. and attacks are not rare.

Michellenman

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

Makes you wonder did the family dog attack them and they put it down to a fox attack. Fox attacks on humans are surely a rare occurrence especially in an upstairs bedroom.

This was my first thought too..

entropi

Confab wrote: »

Why is this news?

I just seen that the report comes from Sky News...so its not really news just more spam they put out:)

Wouldnt surprise me if the fox turned out to be something else altogether since sky like to embellish their stories a little...

juice1304

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

Yeah, there is something very fishy about this sceal. Foxes are extremely reclusive animals. Jumping into cots in an upstairs bedroom in East London..... Yeah right, a likely story.



"Mauled" lol... A fox not big enough to "maul" anyone

eh they are children so yes it is big enough, and there have been plenty of adults mauled by them too.

goat2

Michellenman wrote: »

This was my first thought too..

how do they know it was a fox, did they see fox in bedroom of house

upstairs bedroom, fox found window open downstairs then climbed upstairs, very tame fox then,
i have doubts that was fox

Steodonn

Confab wrote: »

Why is this news?

http://sendables.jibjab.com/originals/what_we_call_the_news

tallaghtoutlaws

juice1304 wrote: »

no it would'nt all they have to do is check the bite marks, and why do you think they would lie it would be stupid to put your children at risk after they had already been attacked. and attacks are not rare.

When is the last time you heard of a fox attack anyone in their own home? And not just downstairs of the home but in an upstairs bedroom. If this is a common occurrence well fook me I must be living under a rock. Sure people get bitten by foxes often but not mauled in their upstairs bedroom.

Skynews gave us this piece of news they are as good as any rubbish tabloid. Why wouldn't someone lie if the family pet actually did the damage. Some small dog bites can look a lot lot fox bites and Some people can make sh1t up on the spot if it meant keeping child services away.

But hey all we have to go on is that article. Sure it could have been a fox but it just seems odd upstairs bedroom and all.

Jimmy Garlic

juice1304 wrote: »

eh they are children so yes it is big enough, and there have been plenty of adults mauled by them too.

Have you ever seen a fox up close?. I have, they are not very big, certainly not big enough to "maul" an adult. A Doberman will maul you, I can guarantee you a fox won't. As for a fox going into a house, going upstairs and jumping into a cot to attack babies, I just don't believe it. Foxes are very reclusive and wary creatures, they won't put themselves in a situation where they could be cornered.

Calibos

T-Minus 24 hours before we hear that the twins uncle moved to a mates house with his pet Staffie minutes before the Police arrived.

stovelid

juice1304 wrote: »

no it would'nt all they have to do is check the bite marks, and why do you think they would lie it would be stupid to put your children at risk after they had already been attacked. and attacks are not rare.

Sadly a lot of people are happy to put their kids at risk.

I've seen tons of foxes in the vicinity of the house and garden but have just never heard of one in the house, let alone upstairs.

Wibbs

I've foxes that come into the garden every year on a regular basis. They're not very heavily built at all and not much bigger than a large cat. They wouldnt worry a 4 year old never mind an adult. 9 month old of course yea, but something doesnt add up. If the kids were in a pram in the garden getting a bit of air, I could possibly see it, but an upstairs bedroom? They're a very wary animal. The slightest noise and they're on edge. Doubly so if they're aware of humans being around. I've left out food for them when they were raising cubs which would normalise me to them somewhat, but the second they see me they're off. Ive found badgers more forward. Even tame foxes are twitchy. My uncle had one years ago and it was very nervous indoors. Something doesnt add up, unless the population pressures have made them more desperate or this was a diseased/unusual one.

pickarooney

He was probably on miaow miaow.

bnt

If a fox is hungry enough, I wouldn't put anything past it. None of the news reports I've seen have used the R-word, probably because the UK is supposedly free of it, but I bet they're thinking about that in the hospital ... :eek:

Asphyxia

My heart really goes out two those kids, stupid fox :mad:

I honestly don't believe it's a fox.. It got in a window, went upstairs, into a bedroom, in over the side of a pram and bit 2 babies a few times.
Unless of course the owner blocked it leaving and the authorities seen it.

Sofa King Great

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=A%20dingo%20ate%20my%20baby

refers to the Azaria Chamberlain disappearance. The incident occurred in Australia in 1980 - a baby disappeared under mysterious circumstances near Uluru (Ayers Rock). The mother, Lindy Chamberlain, camping with her family, claimed to have seen a dingo carrying her baby from their tent, and immortalised the phrase, "The dingo's got my baby!". She was convicted of murdering her baby but later acquitted when new evidence suggested that the baby was, in fact, killed by a dingo.
-"Hey Lindy, where is your baby?"
-"A dingo ate my baby!"

Truley

My money is on a child abuse cover up or an attack from the family mutt. No way was it a fox.

Smartypantsdig

the only time I have heard of a fox biting a human was when the animal was threatened. That said, I cannot believe or dis-believe this story unless I see definite evidence of the attack.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

Have you ever seen a fox up close?. I have, they are not very big, certainly not big enough to "maul" an adult. A Doberman will maul you, I can guarantee you a fox won't. As for a fox going into a house, going upstairs and jumping into a cot to attack babies, I just don't believe it. Foxes are very reclusive and wary creatures, they won't put themselves in a situation where they could be cornered.

You seen a fox up close? That makes you an expert on the subject? Ever see a foxes perly whites? Daunting to say the least. How can you guarantee what an animal will or will not do, especially an animal you know nothing about?

They won't put themselves into a situation where they can be cornered? You mean they would never go into an enclosed pheasant or chicken pen? They don't live in a den (a hole in the ground)?

Truley wrote: »

My money is on a child abuse cover up or an attack from the family mutt. No way was it a fox.

Child abuse? How? Quite possible that it was a dog, but I wonder why they chose to place the blame on such an unlikely animal? No way it was a fox? How so?

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

When is the last time you heard of a fox attack anyone in their own home? And not just downstairs of the home but in an upstairs bedroom. If this is a common occurrence well fook me I must be living under a rock. Sure people get bitten by foxes often but not mauled in their upstairs bedroom.

Skynews gave us this piece of news they are as good as any rubbish tabloid. Why wouldn't someone lie if the family pet actually did the damage. Some small dog bites can look a lot lot fox bites and Some people can make sh1t up on the spot if it meant keeping child services away.

But hey all we have to go on is that article. Sure it could have been a fox but it just seems odd upstairs bedroom and all.

So, beacuse it has not happened before, it will never happen? WTF is that logic?

It's quite plausable.

goat2 wrote: »

how do they know it was a fox, did they see fox in bedroom of house

upstairs bedroom, fox found window open downstairs then climbed upstairs, very tame fox then,
i have doubts that was fox

Fox hairs, smell etc etc. Quite different to that of a dog.

Lots of people have doubts about it, that's fair enough, but at least base your doubts of some sort of facts, and don't make crap up.

Anybody even know anything about foxes? Highly doubt it. You will find that foxes live quite close to humans, and they are not as timid as you may think. Those that live in the countryside are different.

Think of a pigeon in Dublin city, and a pigeon in the country.

Donkey Oaty

The BBC has found a fox expert to comment on this story:

John Bryant, a pest control consultant who specialises in foxes, said the attack did not sound like typical fox behaviour.
He said: "They will walk into houses, walk round, mess on the bathroom floor and sometimes sleep on the bed if people are not around.
"I see no reason why [it would attack] unless it jumped into the cot and then found itself with squirming children underneath it and couldn't get out.
"It just doesn't make any sense to me."

Curiouser and curiouser.

kraggy

No proof that it was a fox.

So thread title is misleading.

goat2

Stetson Putrid Sailor wrote: »

You seen a fox up close? That makes you an expert on the subject? Ever see a foxes perly whites? Daunting to say the least. How can you guarantee what an animal will or will not do, especially an animal you know nothing about?

They won't put themselves into a situation where they can be cornered? You mean they would never go into an enclosed pheasant or chicken pen? They don't live in a den (a hole in the ground)?



Child abuse? How? Quite possible that it was a dog, but I wonder why they chose to place the blame on such an unlikely animal? No way it was a fox? How so?



So, beacuse it has not happened before, it will never happen? WTF is that logic?

It's quite plausable.



Fox hairs, smell etc etc. Quite different to that of a dog.

Lots of people have doubts about it, that's fair enough, but at least base your doubts of some sort of facts, and don't make crap up.

Anybody even know anything about foxes? Highly doubt it. You will find that foxes live quite close to humans, and they are not as timid as you may think. Those that live in the countryside are different.

Think of a pigeon in Dublin city, and a pigeon in the country.

what makes you such an expert, definately i think this is a cock and bull story about a hungry fox, after all food in kitchen downstairs would have been closer to fox, foxes are afraid of humans, sounds like the fox lived with them and was a pet, but no that is not the story, wild fox come in window, no locking downstairs windows then ( dont beleive that either) fox knows exactily where children are, climb stairs, goes to right room, knows that there are two children in cot, pull the other one

Red Hand

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

Makes you wonder did the family dog attack them and they put it down to a fox attack. Fox attacks on humans are surely a rare occurrence especially in an upstairs bedroom.

Mmmmm...that occurred to me too.

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

Have you ever seen a fox up close?. I have, they are not very big, certainly not big enough to "maul" an adult. A Doberman will maul you, I can guarantee you a fox won't. As for a fox going into a house, going upstairs and jumping into a cot to attack babies, I just don't believe it. Foxes are very reclusive and wary creatures, they won't put themselves in a situation where they could be cornered.

True. They are just trying to pin the blame on the Fox. They would actually have to have proof in that someone saw the Fox doing this for me to be convinced.

Donkey Oaty

kraggy wrote: »

No proof that it was a fox.

So thread title is misleading.

There's an eyewitness account of the fox being in the bedroom from the mother, and the police are treating it as as a fox attack, plus the fact that they've since caught a fox in a trap in the garden.

Not conclusive proof, but I would imagine police forensics could determine this fairly quickly.

tallaghtoutlaws

Stetson Putrid Sailor wrote: »

So, beacuse it has not happened before, it will never happen? WTF is that logic?

It's quite plausable.

Good man for taking what I wrote out of context. Read the piece I quoted next time. I was responding to the fact the other poster said it has happened before. I never said it couldn't happen, but I did say it was odd and isn't a common occurrence.

furiousox

Video update here...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30xG0LOC3qQ

Donkey Oaty

Fox attacks are very rare indeed, but not unheard of...

http://news.scotsman.com/foxes/Fox-attacks-baby-in-house.2340001.jp

Edit: This is a story from 2002, widely reported in the British press.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

goat2 wrote: »

what makes you such an expert, definately i think this is a cock and bull story about a hungry fox, after all food in kitchen downstairs would have been closer to fox, foxes are afraid of humans, sounds like the fox lived with them and was a pet, but no that is not the story, wild fox come in window, no locking downstairs windows then ( dont beleive that either) fox knows exactily where children are, climb stairs, goes to right room, knows that there are two children in cot, pull the other one

I never claimed to be an expert, but i'm not completely ignorant towards the animal, like some in here. I have a certain amount of experience with foxes. Educated by my dad and his dad. Why don't you believe the downstairs windows were not locked? Foxes are not as fearful of humans as you think. But keep ignoring the posts, it's suits your agenda, right?

Maybe the fox chanced upon the children? Highly doubtful that he was hunting them as a food source, although, he would have absolutely no problem finding them. Why is this difficult to believe? A dogs sense of smell is pretty damn good.

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

Good man for taking what I wrote out of context. Read the piece I quoted next time. I was responding to the fact the other poster said it has happened before. I never said it couldn't happen, but I did say it was odd and isn't a common occurrence.

That's how I understood your post. Sorry...