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Studying King Lear?

  • 06-06-2010 7:27pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 467 ✭✭


    I was just wondering, how do you guys study King Lear? Do you study characters and their quotes, key moments, themes etc......

    OR....... do you learn off questions?(I don't want to go down this route...)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 LNags


    i CANNOT learn off questions!!! at all!!

    we've got quotes n stuff...and we've talked about all the characters...

    for a q on love(or goodness):Kent and cordelia...edgar too maybe the fool?

    for evil: edmund and goneril and regan... also cornwall and oswald!

    em iv heard the fool is likely to come up although i reckon theres not a whole pile to write on...the fool used to be played by the same person who played cordelia although i think this would be an unfair question really. it wouldnt be a solid answer, they'd only be getting themselves into trouble you know.

    key scenes should be well known to be honest...storm scene can be used in almost all questions! reason in madness..yadda yadda.....

    best of luck!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 467 ✭✭pbowenroe


    Thanks alot for replying, that actually helped alot. Best of luck to you too:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 LNags


    ok i hope this works..just found am email from my teacher! i'll try post it here...but i could like email u the thing if ur interested??


    i think id fail tryin to put it up here...let me know asap cos i wanna go sleep :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 LNags


    its quite good too...brief notes and some sample answers...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 467 ✭✭pbowenroe


    Ill PM u my email addy


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 LNags


    work away! im not very...technical..it may take me a minute :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭fufureida


    LNags wrote: »
    i
    em iv heard the fool is likely to come up although i reckon theres not a whole pile to write on...the fool used to be played by the same person who played cordelia although i think this would be an unfair question really. it wouldnt be a solid answer, they'd only be getting themselves into trouble you know.

    key scenes should be well known to be honest...storm scene can be used in almost all questions! reason in madness..yadda yadda.....

    best of luck!!

    Wrong. I have a 5 page essay on the fool that received a nice 60/60. It's likely to come up too so here's hoping.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 230 ✭✭MaggieNF


    i really hope the fool doesn't come up.


    but i read over notes, and learn quotes if you have quotes you can fill the points in around it


    but if you know the story well you can change it for the question so with the time left i would say do that


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 FairyWings


    fufureida wrote: »
    Wrong. I have a 5 page essay on the fool that received a nice 60/60. It's likely to come up too so here's hoping.

    any chnce you could forward that on?!?1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭Ashashi


    You can't expect him to give you his full mark essay do you? If I was him, I would keep it in a bloody safe, as if it does come up, then he is miles ahead the rest of us.


    But I am hoping the Fool doesn't come up.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭fufureida


    Ashashi wrote: »
    You can't expect him to give you his full mark essay do you? If I was him, I would keep it in a bloody safe, as if it does come up, then he is miles ahead the rest of us.


    But I am hoping the Fool doesn't come up.

    *she

    I'm happy to share the main ideas. We are all in this together we should give eachother a hand and expect gratitude ie don't learn off peoples answers..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 FairyWings


    Ive heard the fool is coming up-but just in case im learning of others aswell. No I wasnt asking to learn your essay off.. sorry if you thought that.Ive just limited notes on the fool and anything would be helpful


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭fufureida


    Yep I know but I will post stuff up whn I have the time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 FairyWings


    thanks a million


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 MagsK93


    Does anyone know what the main points are for love as a redemptive force are?? its the only thing im stuck on!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭Ashashi


    fufureida wrote: »
    *she

    I'm happy to share the main ideas. We are all in this together we should give eachother a hand and expect gratitude ie don't learn off peoples answers..

    Oops, you can't tell on these things anyway, sorry :)

    I think I have the main ideas, but I am wondering how many quotes you have?

    I haven't anyway, except for the "I would offer you my coxcomb for ypur crown" when speaking to Lear, but that's about it.

    I amn't looking for your quotes, just a general idea :)

    Cheers, MISS fufureida:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 Pineapple123


    Hi :-)

    I'm COMPLETELY new to all this, so be nice :D

    My english teacher says that as The Fool is a completely minor character there's an extremely small chance of him coming up...he could be wrong of course, but he generally produces a lot of A's (60% of his students:))

    But...

    1.Lears transformation
    2.Language and Imagery
    3.Blindness
    4.Love
    5.Sibling Rivalry or Good vs Evil

    Who knows though :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭Conor108


    Lads.....I REALLY hate English...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 LNags


    me too!! :(

    if anyone wants the notes pm me with ur email address!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭Ashashi


    Lear's transformation would be a beaut. Fingers crossed :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭Victoria.


    Ashashi wrote: »
    Oops, you can't tell on these things anyway, sorry :)

    I think I have the main ideas, but I am wondering how many quotes you have?

    I haven't anyway, except for the "I would offer you my coxcomb for ypur crown" when speaking to Lear, but that's about it.

    I amn't looking for your quotes, just a general idea :)

    Cheers, MISS fufureida:)

    Quotes for the Fool: (ones I used in Fool essay)

    'thou hadst little wit in thy bald crown when thous gavest thy golden one away'

    'truth's a dog must to kennel he must be whipped out, when the lady brach may stand by the fire and stink'

    'they'll have me whipped for speaking true, thoul't have me whipped for lying'

    'and I'll go to bed at noon' (his final line)

    'nuncle' (what he calls Lear)
    'my boy' (Lear calls Fool)

    'let go thy hold when a great wheel runs down a hill lest it break thy neck with following it'

    'the hedge sparrow fed the cuckoo so long that it had it head bit off by its young'

    Hope that helps, those are the main quotes by the Fool in the play.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭Ashashi


    Victoria. wrote: »
    Quotes for the Fool: (ones I used in Fool essay)

    'thou hadst little wit in thy bald crown when thous gavest thy golden one away'

    'truth's a dog must to kennel he must be whipped out, when the lady brach may stand by the fire and stink'

    'they'll have me whipped for speaking true, thoul't have me whipped for lying'

    'and I'll go to bed at noon' (his final line)

    'nuncle' (what he calls Lear)
    'my boy' (Lear calls Fool)

    'let go thy hold when a great wheel runs down a hill lest it break thy neck with following it'

    'the hedge sparrow fed the cuckoo so long that it had it head bit off by its young'

    Hope that helps, those are the main quotes by the Fool in the play.


    That is brilliant, cheers :D


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 327 ✭✭zoom!


    For Lear you need to know:

    Lear's character (how it changes)
    The Sub plot
    Imagery in the play


    For good v evil/redemptive forces the layout is the same.

    A typical intro would be:

    There are many redemptive forces in the play King Lear. Throughout the play there is much suffereing inflicted on both Lear and Gloucester. However, these characters are redeemed by their children and in Lear's case, his loyal servant.

    Then go on to talk about how Lear does evil in the play and beings suffering upon himself and gloucester too and then talk about how edgar and cordelia save them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,586 ✭✭✭Healium


    What sort of imagery is required? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 814 ✭✭✭NotExactly


    Ashashi wrote: »
    You can't expect him to give you his full mark essay do you? If I was him, I would keep it in a bloody safe, as if it does come up, then he is miles ahead the rest of us.

    SHHHHHHH :D Don't say that!:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 MagsK93


    zoom! wrote: »
    For Lear you need to know:

    Lear's character (how it changes)
    The Sub plot
    Imagery in the play


    For good v evil/redemptive forces the layout is the same.

    A typical intro would be:

    There are many redemptive forces in the play King Lear. Throughout the play there is much suffereing inflicted on both Lear and Gloucester. However, these characters are redeemed by their children and in Lear's case, his loyal servant.

    Then go on to talk about how Lear does evil in the play and beings suffering upon himself and gloucester too and then talk about how edgar and cordelia save them

    thank you, sorted :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Finical


    I hope the theme of nature or the theme of power come up.

    Anyone reckon they have a good chance of coming up?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭fufureida


    Ashashi wrote: »
    Oops, you can't tell on these things anyway, sorry :)

    I think I have the main ideas, but I am wondering how many quotes you have?

    I haven't anyway, except for the "I would offer you my coxcomb for ypur crown" when speaking to Lear, but that's about it.

    I amn't looking for your quotes, just a general idea :)

    Cheers, MISS fufureida:)

    I am posting everything for fool up tommorow. Be patient please. :

    oh and by the way, my essay only has 5 quotes and received an A1)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 LNags


    ok guys heres a small bit on redemptive forces of love vs evil.. or something!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 LNags


    a few more bits...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,900 ✭✭✭Eire-Dearg


    Healium wrote: »
    What sort of imagery is required? :confused:

    Animal imagery and clothes imagery.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40 curlypops


    LNags - you have lovely writing!:D

    thanks a million!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭fufureida


    LNags wrote: »
    a few more bits...

    You have no idea how thankful I am... If I was near you I would probably do special favours for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 LNags


    haha no probs lads..! hope they helped..im starting to worry :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 53 ✭✭FyeaG


    ...i got everythin' else i need covered for 2morrow, only king lear, anyone any ideas where to start?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89 ✭✭dodgystuff


    If imagery comes up I will jump out of my seat and kiss the nearest person to me. It's so easy to answer on compared to all the crappy character questions.

    I'm studying:
    Imagery
    Goneril/Regan
    Edmund
    Cordelia
    Lear
    Fool
    Madness (looking over roughly just in case because my English teacher seems adament on this)
    Good v Evil (same as above)

    Still need to go back everything though, that's what i've done over the space of a week so..

    My teacher, whose predictions always seem right thinks it'll be LEar with Cordelia, something to do with their relationship.

    I HATE LEAR


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