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English Paper 2 Predictions

  • 06-06-2010 3:40pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,200 ✭✭✭


    Right, for paper 1 I'm grand, but I have mixed feeling about whats gonna come up for paper 2.

    Lear - Can;t really predict, but I know the characters and issues etc so I am pretty sorted

    Comparativ - Gen V&V in my opinion, aswell as maybe Cultural Context

    Poetry 0 This is where my mixed feelings come on. I have focused mainly on Boland, with a bit of Yeats as a back up, but I have a bad feeling that they are going to be scaby and choose rich and kavanagh. Is this just my bad feelings, or have I thrown away 30 marks(I can BS my way to get at least 20 marks on kavanagh if he comes up)?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 814 ✭✭✭NotExactly


    J.D.R wrote: »
    Right, for paper 1 I'm grand, but I have mixed feeling about whats gonna come up for paper 2.

    Lear - Can;t really predict, but I know the characters and issues etc so I am pretty sorted

    Comparativ - Gen V&V in my opinion, aswell as maybe Cultural Context

    Poetry 0 This is where my mixed feelings come on. I have focused mainly on Boland, with a bit of Yeats as a back up, but I have a bad feeling that they are going to be scaby and choose rich and kavanagh. Is this just my bad feelings, or have I thrown away 30 marks(I can BS my way to get at least 20 marks on kavanagh if he comes up)?

    I hoping for Boland to come aswell:D Your only doing Boland with a BIT of yeats as a back up? It's worth 50 marks not 30. You havn't trown away anything if Boland comes up and you have her coverd.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,200 ✭✭✭J.D.R


    Yeah, focused on Boland with only a BIT if yeats as a back up.

    When I say thrown away 30 marks, thats because if neither of them come up, I can still pull away 20 marks for kavanagh, therefore using my OL maths, 50-20=30 down the drain.

    And fingers crossed for boland. Her questions seem to be a bit tricky, but they have all been personal responses, so hopefully that doesn't change


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 96 ✭✭lucybrown


    sibling rivalry question on lear?

    with boland and yeats u will be fine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,200 ✭✭✭J.D.R


    Probably something about the Siblings, according to my teacher anyway, but he said something about how they affect Lear, and about their Evil -v- Good style.

    And ther will always be something about either Lear or Evil


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 96 ✭✭lucybrown


    yeah evil v good actually i should study that


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,200 ✭✭✭J.D.R


    Once you know the character and what they do in the play, you should be prepared for whatever question comes up (I still have trouble with the whole Goneril, Regan, and the husbands)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 96 ✭✭lucybrown


    do the minor characters like oswald and french matter? dont know a thing about them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,200 ✭✭✭J.D.R


    Maybe, if you want to raise your grade from an A2 to an A1. Otherwise, I'd say you'd be fine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭ajjmk


    lucybrown wrote: »
    do the minor characters like oswald and french matter? dont know a thing about them

    waiiiiit, whos french..!? :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 96 ✭✭lucybrown


    king of france........takes cordelia in to be his queen after she is banished from lear.....he isnt anything major


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭ajjmk


    ohhhh yeahhhh...phew, thanks! mini-freakout over..! :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 96 ✭✭lucybrown


    haha no probs sorry dunno why i said french!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 96 ✭✭Indigo Sunrise


    lucybrown wrote: »
    do the minor characters like oswald and french matter? dont know a thing about them

    And don't forget Burgundy too, quite an mportant character there.

    (not really)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 96 ✭✭lucybrown


    that jus shows u how little i know of lear and how screwed i am ha! ok good


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 Mark2006


    Do ye think Boland & Yeats will get me through the poetry?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 96 ✭✭lucybrown


    ye it should......if u defo wanna be safe u cud do boland or kavanagh aswell...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,200 ✭✭✭J.D.R


    Unless the examiner has decided to be a total prick this year, then yeah, one of them should defo come up, if not both (fingers crossed)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26 hmmmm52


    anyone heard the theory a female poet has to be asked therefor by studying Rich and Boland your covered??
    It's what practically my whole English class is relying on!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,200 ✭✭✭J.D.R


    That is not a theory, its near fact. A female poet has been asked for the past 9 years, which men you are pretty safe assumiing that one will come up. But, hte problem is, it's not written in stone, which mean they don't actually have to do it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭JoeyBuddy


    There'd be war if they didn't do it though...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 LNags


    well you're meant to study 8 poets...
    so if there was uproar thats all they would say and they'd be right!

    we asked our teacher and she said that if a woman didnt come up then thats that and if people tried to give out they'd just get told that!

    she even told us of correcting scripts and being given answers on poets that weren't up along with a little message saying "sorry, i only learned keats.." or whatever... hahaha..hope thats not me this year!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 585 ✭✭✭LovexxLife


    mine are:

    Dancing at lughnasa: character(kate possibly)-thems family/change

    Compative-banking on literay genre

    Poets-yeats,eliot, boland, (longley or kavangh??)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 814 ✭✭✭NotExactly


    J.D.R wrote: »
    And fingers crossed for boland. Her questions seem to be a bit tricky, but they have all been personal responses, so hopefully that doesn't change

    Would FCUK*IG LOVE a personal response on Boland!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 814 ✭✭✭NotExactly


    hmmmm52 wrote: »
    anyone heard the theory a female poet has to be asked therefor by studying Rich and Boland your covered??
    It's what practically my whole English class is relying on!

    No rule saying a women has to come up and if a women doesn't come up i can't see the SEC getting done for being sexist.:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 568 ✭✭✭irish_man


    NotExactly wrote: »
    Would FCUK*IG LOVE a personal response on Boland!

    sorry but not a chance.
    A personal response, if it were to come up, would be on a poet that isn't that widely tipped. E.g rich, kavanagh
    Nearly everone in the country knows boland at this stage
    I doubt a personal response will come up at all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 814 ✭✭✭NotExactly


    irish_man wrote: »
    sorry but not a chance.
    A personal response, if it were to come up, would be on a poet that isn't that widely tipped. E.g rich, kavanagh
    Nearly everone in the country knows boland at this stage
    I doubt a personal response will come up at all

    Your forgiven:D You may be right..but i'd still love if it did!:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 JenM


    ajjmk wrote: »
    waiiiiit, whos french..!? :confused:
    His name is France,he's one of Cordelia's suitors at the beginning and then she goes to France with him after she gets banished.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 Dontfallover


    Ok so about poetry.. if the question dosnt directly ask for your personal response should you still include it?

    because i always thought you should.. but iv been hearing recently that that could be wrong:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Finical


    Ok so about poetry.. if the question dosnt directly ask for your personal response should you still include it?

    because i always thought you should.. but iv been hearing recently that that could be wrong:(
    Still include your personal response but it will be trickier because you will have to relate to the certain question!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭LC2010HIS


    thought Lit Genre was a dead ringer this year? :eek: I was only gona do GV and View and LGenre- should i learn cul context too???????? :confused::confused::confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 585 ✭✭✭LovexxLife


    LC2010HIS wrote: »
    thought Lit Genre was a dead ringer this year? :eek: I was only gona do GV and View and LGenre- should i learn cul context too???????? :confused::confused::confused:
    they are the only 2 that our class studied.
    Im bankin on LG


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Finical


    LC2010HIS wrote: »
    thought Lit Genre was a dead ringer this year? :eek: I was only gona do GV and View and LGenre- should i learn cul context too???????? :confused::confused::confused:
    Two have to come up so if you study two...one will definitely appear on the paper.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭dazco


    They literally always ask personal response, they just word it in different ways.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30 DnBMoloney24


    LC2010HIS wrote: »
    thought Lit Genre was a dead ringer this year? :eek: I was only gona do GV and View and LGenre- should i learn cul context too???????? :confused::confused::confused:

    The patterns in the previous exams point directly at G.V.V and Literary Genre. Despite the fact they don't have to follow the patterns, you'll be fine with G.V.V & L.G covered. Best of luck :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 182 ✭✭Mwah


    im doing so little for English 2

    gv+vp boland and lear.... thats it :P


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 PowerTaxi


    I did:

    Poets: Boland, Longley, Kavanagh
    Comparative: LG, GVV
    Lear: Imagery, Suffering, Self Knowledge, Lear(More sinned against then sinning) and Love

    I hope thats enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,900 ✭✭✭Eire-Dearg


    Poets: Boland and Longley
    Compartative: LG and VV
    Lear: Nothing :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 53 ✭✭FyeaG


    J.D.R wrote: »
    Right, for paper 1 I'm grand, but I have mixed feeling about whats gonna come up for paper 2.

    Lear - Can;t really predict, but I know the characters and issues etc so I am pretty sorted

    Comparativ - Gen V&V in my opinion, aswell as maybe Cultural Context

    Poetry 0 This is where my mixed feelings come on. I have focused mainly on Boland, with a bit of Yeats as a back up, but I have a bad feeling that they are going to be scaby and choose rich and kavanagh. Is this just my bad feelings, or have I thrown away 30 marks(I can BS my way to get at least 20 marks on kavanagh if he comes up)?



    Every year atleast one Female poet comes up, so i studied both Boland and Rich well, so im all set on this one, muohahahaaaa


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 53 ✭✭FyeaG


    Mwah wrote: »
    im doing so little for English 2

    gv+vp boland and lear.... thats it :P


    God bless ya :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 182 ✭✭Mwah


    i know ha, if boland and gv+vp dont come up i think ill just do lear and leave :P
    but its what most people i know are doing so im not the only one!! lol


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30 DnBMoloney24


    PowerTaxi wrote: »
    I did:

    Poets: Boland, Longley, Kavanagh
    Comparative: LG, GVV
    Lear: Imagery, Suffering, Self Knowledge, Lear(More sinned against then sinning) and Love

    I hope thats enough.

    Did basically the exact same. For Lear I did Love as a redemptive force, Sinners & Saints and contrast in characters. Do you reckon we'll be alright for the poetry with just them 3 done?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 53 ✭✭FyeaG


    LC2010HIS wrote: »
    thought Lit Genre was a dead ringer this year? :eek: I was only gona do GV and View and LGenre- should i learn cul context too???????? :confused::confused::confused:


    Oh yes indeed, i think if u kno VV and CC u all good and set, cuz ur defineatly will have a choice between these two, and they quite easy, i never did LG, i heard its harder and more complicated than VV and CC, so i just stick with em two, yup


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40 curlypops


    FyeaG wrote: »
    Every year atleast one Female poet comes up, so i studied both Boland and Rich well, so im all set on this one, muohahahaaaa

    my teacher reckons they might break this trend this year .. :eek:
    so i would study Yeats as well if i were you ..

    but i would love to see either of the women come up ..
    i know them the best!:D
    Yeats is my back-up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 PowerTaxi


    Do you reckon we'll be alright for the poetry with just them 3 done?

    Should be. I'm gonna throw a quick glance over Rich tomorrow, just in case.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 53 ✭✭FyeaG


    curlypops wrote: »
    my teacher reckons they might break this trend this year .. :eek:
    so i would study Yeats as well if i were you ..

    but i would love to see either of the women come up ..
    i know them the best!:D
    Yeats is my back-up



    Well thats what my teatcher told me, that always atleast one Female poet comes up, but if there would be only Males this year, im literally f'ed up, totaly, still i kno where my english teatcher lives, i would set her house on fire over next day, so one way or other, i still get some satisfaction :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 311 ✭✭H2student


    Poets: I did 4, because I thought that would be a safe number? (7 poets in the book, 4 comes up every year) Longley, Kavangh, Boland & Walcott(though he is unlikely to come up).

    Comparative: CC & GVVP because I hate LG.

    Lear: Er... I'm hoping for the best.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40 curlypops


    FyeaG wrote: »
    Well thats what my teatcher told me, that always atleast one Female poet comes up, but if there would be only Males this year, im literally f'ed up, totaly, still i kno where my english teatcher lives, i would set her house on fire over next day, so one way or other, i still get some satisfaction :D

    hey now! no need to get violent .. :D

    i agree with you - a female poet better come up
    but my english teacher is pretty good at predicting so i would take her seriously if she said something like that.

    i got yeats as my back-up but hopefully i wont need to use him! ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 53 ✭✭FyeaG


    curlypops wrote: »
    hey now! no need to get violent .. :D

    i agree with you - a female poet better come up
    but my english teacher is pretty good at predicting so i would take her seriously if she said something like that.

    i got yeats as my back-up but hopefully i wont need to use him! ;)


    Well the two Female poets Boland and Rich was the only ones i did, i should did somethin extra, by my own, but, oh well :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40 curlypops


    FyeaG wrote: »
    Well the two Female poets Boland and Rich was the only ones i did, i should did somethin extra, by my own, but, oh well :D

    yeah i know ..
    it a bit last minute to start someone else ..

    lets all pray for a woman in that case! :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭ciano1


    Anyone else totally f*cked for Lear :(


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