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the point of house alarms

  • 05-06-2010 05:15PM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭


    apart from annoying the crap out of anyone in the same housing estate and actually make it more easy to burgle a place [you could start a farkin band session in them and no one would notice with the noise being made already]

    seriously scumbags start breaking into houses with alarms going off :pac: no one will ever know!

    and also apart from the point of reducing insurance costs for your house, they are the 21st centuries chocoltate fire guard :mad:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭Bob the Builder


    They are the most pointless things I have ever seen.

    Even the Gardaí must get sick of all the false alarms there are.

    They are useless.

    Where I work, there is one and there are nine people on the list of contacts if ther alarm goes off throughout the night, and usually not one of the people answers the phone when the alarm activates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    The idea is simply to make it more appealing to burgle your alarmless neighbour than it is to burgle you. That's why the boxes are usually prominently displayed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭Bob the Builder


    javaboy wrote: »
    The idea is simply to make it more appealing to burgle your alarmless neighbour than it is to burgle you. That's why the boxes are usually prominently displayed.

    You mean to say that my only neighbour is paying €400 to hope that my house gets burgled first?

    The cúnt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    javaboy wrote: »
    The idea is simply to make it more appealing to burgle your alarmless neighbour than it is to burgle you. That's why the boxes are usually prominently displayed.

    Is that what the rep told you. If everyone has one [and everyone does now] it becomes pointless, like a pyramid scheme.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭KerranJast


    If you get a proper alarm system with a UPS and GSM dialer then they are of value.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭Splendour


    Don't get alarms either. There was one in my house when I bought it and I've never used it. When doing any electrical work and need to turn off the main supply, the alarm goes off and drives me crazy... (And my neighbours too I imagine :rolleyes: )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    me@ucd wrote: »
    Is that what the rep told you. If everyone has one [and everyone does now] it becomes pointless, like a pyramid scheme.

    No it's not what a rep told me. :rolleyes: It's just me da always taught me to skip the houses with the alarm boxes. That advice has served me well over the years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    javaboy wrote: »
    No it's not what a rep told me. :rolleyes: It's just me da always taught me to skip the houses with the alarm boxes. That advice has served me well over the years.

    ba dum tis..


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,017 Mod ✭✭✭✭yoyo


    I heard there are tools readily available online that disable all kinds of alarm (not joking, even phonewatch can be disabled!), burglars will also only rob so much in each burglary apparently as if they only rob a certain amount they can be released on bail (maybe not the right term, dont know much about those legal terms, but they can get away with it!) :rolleyes:, the scumbags have it all worked out

    Nick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,495 ✭✭✭Abelloid


    My neighbours had one go off repeatedly one Christmas while they were away. I was tempted to break in and smear my own faeces across their bedroom walls, and leave a note saying the alarm not only drove me to do it but also provided the cover, as everybody else on the road was working hard to ignore it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,646 ✭✭✭Luap


    me@ucd wrote: »
    apart from annoying the crap out of anyone in the same housing estate and actually make it more easy to burgle a place [you could start a farkin band session in them and no one would notice with the noise being made already]

    seriously scumbags start breaking into houses with alarms going off :pac: no one will ever know!

    and also apart from the point of reducing insurance costs for your house, they are the 21st centuries chocolate fire guard :mad:


    Mmmmm. Chocolate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭bryaner


    javaboy wrote: »
    The idea is simply to make it more appealing to burgle your alarmless neighbour than it is to burgle you. That's why the boxes are usually prominently displayed.

    Correct!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭Indubitable


    I don't have an alarm and have never been robbed nor anyone in the immediate vicinity of my abode.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭bryaner


    I don't have an alarm and have never been robbed nor anyone in the immediate vicinity of my abode.

    I have an alarm and two people on the same street without alarms got burgled..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭Indubitable


    bryaner wrote: »
    I have an alarm and two people on the same street without alarms got burgled..

    Perhaps it is where I live? Where my parents and brother live, in the last 2 years 5 houses in their estate had their cars robbed by breaking into the house and grabbing the keys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 384 ✭✭Erica<3


    There's a house across the road from me and they leave their house on full alarm everyday, and they must have a cat or something, because it goes everyday for hours, until one of the owners comes home.

    It's gotten to the point where I have driven over and put a note through the letterbox, telling them about the alarm, how annoying it is, and would they please mind putting it on part-arm so that it won't go off at the slightest little thing.

    Have they taken heed?

    Have they fcuk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭smallerthanyou


    I've lived in about 6 or 7 different houses between college and work and everything. Never had a house alarm and never been robbed. Some of my friends have house alarm and have been robbed. Conclusions house alarms attract robbers!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭lionela


    Wait untill you become a victim....you will do anything to deter burglars..mark my words.
    In my area ..there has been a spate of break/ins..and it's no pleasure.

    Get yourself a good wired system.
    By the way the phone text thinngy is optional and you pay extra for that .. It's an additional panel added to your system and you can have one or several phone alerts via text it's up to each user.

    It's handy if you left your house and forgot to close an inner door or such..and your alarm goes off and you get a text message. Easy peasy ..return home and put things right.

    Also I might add ..present day alarms stop ringing after 20 minutes. Regulations when fitting new systems.

    Cheers . He's behind you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭RATM


    JustinOval wrote: »
    My neighbours had one go off repeatedly one Christmas while they were away. I was tempted to break in and smear my own faeces across their bedroom walls, and leave a note saying the alarm not only drove me to do it but also provided the cover, as everybody else on the road was working hard to ignore it.

    Reminds me of a mate of mine who was having his head wrecked for over 3 months by an alarm across the road going off more or less every day at around 3pm when the owners were out and he was trying to sleep after a night shift. He lived in quite a rough area of Dublin and didn't fancy approaching them at all, some in the house had a rep in the area is the best way to put it.

    So he went down to an internet cafe and printed a sheet stating

    Your alarm has been going off at 3pm every day for the last 12 weeks. If it goes off tomorrow or the day after I'm going to chuck a brick through your window. You've been warned. Sort it out.

    It duly got sorted by the next day. I asked him why didn't he just approach them and ask nicely to which he replied 'Chances are I'd get told to F. Off. When you're dealing with scumbags the best way to go about it is to act like a scumbag yourself. It's the only language they know'


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    When I was shopping for house insurance, I noticed that if you have an alarm, it reduces the yearly cost by over €30, so I got one in Homebase for €50 in a sale, installed it & never used it, but it's saved me €90 over three years already in premiums.

    So, I'm up €40 already. That's the point of house alarms to me!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,495 ✭✭✭Abelloid


    Erica<3 wrote: »
    There's a house across the road from me and they leave their house on full alarm everyday, and they must have a cat or something, because it goes everyday for hours, until one of the owners comes home.

    It's gotten to the point where I have driven over and put a note through the letterbox, telling them about the alarm, how annoying it is, and would they please mind putting it on part-arm so that it won't go off at the slightest little thing.

    Have they taken heed?

    Have they fcuk.

    How wide is your road?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,503 ✭✭✭adamski8


    dogs>alarms


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 799 ✭✭✭Alias G


    When I was shopping for house insurance, I noticed that if you have an alarm, it reduces the yearly cost by over €30, so I got one in Homebase for €50 in a sale, installed it & never used it, but it's saved me €90 over three years already in premiums.

    So, I'm up €40 already. That's the point of house alarms to me!

    But couldn't your insurance company technically refuse a payout on the basis that your alarm wasn't turned on when the burglary occurred.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    My German Shepherds don't require an alarm, burglars wouldn't make it to the house anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Alias G wrote: »
    But couldn't your insurance company technically refuse a payout on the basis that your alarm wasn't turned on when the burglary occurred.

    If I get broken into, I'll just rip out the control panel & say it was thw burglars. Problem solved.

    Or I could actually read the manual & program the thing, but it seems like an awful lot of hassle!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭Mayo Exile


    One of these under each window should do the job nicely.......... Put them away before the kids wake though. :D.

    http://www.eightpointsnineseconds.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/bear-trap.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 450 ✭✭taytothief


    Whats the point in having an alarm if all it does is annoy people enough to ring the cops? Gardai can enter a house and turn off an alarm afaik (breach of peace/noise pollution/something) but they don't, cos they're cnutfishes and there is far too much paperwork involved in something like that I'd reckon. Set-up booby traps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,712 ✭✭✭lorebringer


    Don't see the point of alarms if they are not monitored - they just go off, reset and go off again for hours on end with nothing happening except angry neighbours! We have ours monitored so that if it goes off we get contacted and the Guards get called. Our neighbours have the same system and they have had the Guardi out a few times due to drunken mistakes so it works! We also have dogs and the barking is nearly lounder than the alarm when it goes off ;) We have a few neighbours whos alarms have gone off for nealy the entire day, probably until they come home from work, and it is so annoying. - but do they give s sh!t?!?! No, because they don't have to listen to it all bloody day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 ronan0


    I hate alarms. They always go off on me when I'm trying to switch them off, and there's nothing worse than a neighbours triggering for no reason when they're away and no one there to turn them off.

    I always thought alarms nurtured a kind of chicken and egg scenario in terms of how secure people feel in society if you know what I mean.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,350 ✭✭✭skywalker_208


    Ive been burgled twice (not where I live now)
    Both places had no alarm. 2nd time was a row of houses and we were the only 1 with no alarm - and we were the only one that got burgled

    I have an alarm now, and GSM dialler and a prominently displayed box with nice flashy lights :)

    They are designed to work as a deterent.


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