Another dole thread

hello932

See http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/weekend/2010/0605/1224271886605.html

Seems like a another bad decision by the government to cut people off the dole-where exactly are all these jobs that people are turning down for the dole? I for one would like to know...

Midnight_EG

Go home hobo.








Snap.

reallyrose

1) I think everyone on the dole should be shot

2) I think being on the dole isn't the fault of any individual and that it is hard enough to cope without additional stress

3) Danm scumbags

4) I am on the dole and I think you should stfu

Pick one. Are we done now?

galwayrush

I can't get the dole coz i am self employed, even the many weeks i have no income.:rolleyes:

Yakult

hah.

I havent been offered any job or training by them. All talk no action anyway.. Thank god Im gonna be off it soon enough. Thank you people for keeping me on my feet.

Might just add that if you get offered a job or training and dont take it. You deserve to be cut off.

Buford T Justice

hello932 wrote: »

See http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/weekend/2010/0605/1224271886605.html

Seems like a another bad decision by the government to cut people off the dole-where exactly are all these jobs that people are turning down for the dole? I for one would like to know...

Wow, you almost made it sound like the present incumbents have made a right decision at some stage in their tenure.

DarkJager

Those ****ing cretins we have parading as the government of this country should try the dole themselves for 2 weeks. Sheltered ****ing asshats who don't have the first clue as to as to what a misery it is to be a dole claimant. I want a ****ing job, not your handouts. No hope of Bastard Biffo sorting that anytime soon though.

tony1kenobi

hello932 wrote: »

See http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/weekend/2010/0605/1224271886605.html

Seems like a another bad decision by the government to cut people off the dole-where exactly are all these jobs that people are turning down for the dole? I for one would like to know...

www.jobs.ie

Pick one.

DarkJager

tony1kenobi wrote: »

www.jobs.ie

Pick one.

Pick thirty of them and you'll be lucky to get 1 response. The worst phantom jobs site in operation.

Zebra3

As somebody in full employment, it breaks my heart to see so many people who wanna work on the scratch. :mad: I'm only one corporate money making decision away from being there too.

Give your local FF TD f***ing hell!!!!!!! :mad::mad::mad::mad:

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Oh no, not again, the other dole bashing thread is still on the first page...

Dudess

tony1kenobi wrote: »

www.jobs.ie

Pick one.

LOL
Those jobs and the ones on irishjobs.ie are in the same category as Santa and the Tooth Fairy.

At least some guys can get a job as Santa at Christmas...

tony1kenobi

Dudess wrote: »

LOL
Those jobs and the ones on irishjobs.ie are in the same category as Santa and the Tooth Fairy.

At least some guys can get a job as Santa at Christmas...

Dwayne Johnson made plenty money as the Tooth Fairy.

DarkJager

Dudess wrote: »

LOL
Those jobs and the ones on irishjobs.ie are in the same category as Santa and the Tooth Fairy.

At least some guys can get a job as Santa at Christmas...

Yeah...some guys with forest stalker beards and excessive weight problems

starbelgrade

In theory, I can't see much wrong with the proposal. If you turn down a job or course that you are suitable for, then why should you recieve the dole?

In practice however, it's not that simple - there aren't a whole lotta jobs out there, FAS courses are a feckin joke & a lot of people who have kids would not be able to afford to take up a low paid job & pay creche fees too.

For something like this to work in practice, a lot more thought has to be put into it. State funded creches, courses that actually teach useful skills & proper job centres would all be a step in the right direction.

DarkJager

starbelgrade wrote: »

In theory, I can't see much wrong with the proposal. If you turn down a job or course that you are suitable for, then why should you recieve the dole?

In practice however, it's not that simple - there aren't a whole lotta jobs out there, FAS courses are a feckin joke & a lot of people who have kids would not be able to afford to take up a low paid job & pay creche fees too.

For something like this to work in practice, a lot more thought has to be put into it. State funded creches, courses that actually teach useful skills & proper job centres would all be a step in the right direction.

FAS have started a "work placement" scheme, where they will get you to work in a company for absolutely no wage at all. The best joke of this was an IT job I saw advertised, generally worth about 40-50k a year and they expect you to do it for free for the "experience". Sorry, but no matter how bad off I am for a job, I will not work for free for anybody.

If you have a kid(s) and a job doesn't cover creche costs, then it's hardly "suitable" employment. I doubt you'd lose your welfare payment.

If someone offered you a job, you'd need to have applied for it, so I doubt you'd turn it down. Not one person has called to my front door with a job opportunity.

Same for courses/training.

jimmycrackcorm

DarkJager wrote: »

Those ****ing cretins we have parading as the government of this country should try the dole themselves for 2 weeks. Sheltered ****ing asshats who don't have the first clue as to as to what a misery it is to be a dole claimant. I want a ****ing job, not your handouts. No hope of Bastard Biffo sorting that anytime soon though.

Those cretins on the dole should try the governments job of balancing an income of 34 billion and spending 40 billion on social welfare and the public service. I'd like to see what they'd think of the dole then.

dr.bollocko

reallyrose wrote: »

1) I think everyone on the dole should be shot

2) I think being on the dole isn't the fault of any individual and that it is hard enough to cope without additional stress

3) Danm scumbags

4) I am on the dole and I think you should stfu

Pick one. Are we done now?

This chap. Catching on quick he is.

starbelgrade

DarkJager wrote: »

FAS have started a "work placement" scheme, where they will get you to work in a company for absolutely no wage at all. The best joke of this was an IT job I saw advertised, generally worth about 40-50k a year and they expect you to do it for free for the "experience". Sorry, but no matter how bad off I am for a job, I will not work for free for anybody.

Well, that won't work at all - you could hardly call working for free, a "suitable job" for anybody. That's just slave labour.

starbelgrade

starbelgrade wrote: »

Well, that won't work at all - you could hardly call working for free, a "suitable job" for anybody. That's just slave labour.

Unless they claim the placement program is "training" then it doesn't matter anyway. If you're not paid, it's not employment. If it's not employment, it doesn't fall under "suitable employment".


I'm fairly sure people aren't even attempting to realise that they can't just be offered a job or training program out of the blue. As I've already said, no one has called to my door offering me a job.

You'll only be offered a job you applied for. If you turn it down, then why did you apply in the first place?

Onesimus

hello932 wrote: »

See http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/weekend/2010/0605/1224271886605.html

Seems like a another bad decision by the government to cut people off the dole-where exactly are all these jobs that people are turning down for the dole? I for one would like to know...

if the thermometer where an inch longer, we'd all be freezing to death, what a whinging nation we live in

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

tony1kenobi wrote: »

www.jobs.ie

Pick one.

Hi, welcome to reality...

Biggins

Christ, this fcukin' roundabout again!

Buford T Justice

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

Those cretins on the dole should try the governments job of balancing an income of 34 billion and spending 40 billion on social welfare and the public service. I'd like to see what they'd think of the dole then.

People with two salaries, two pensions, oh dear, what a tough life they lead up there in their governmental ivory tower. And they say the age of the job for life is dead

P.S. if they sorted out the job situation, then there wouldn't be as much spent on the dole.

TheInquisitor

DarkJager wrote: »

FAS have started a "work placement" scheme, where they will get you to work in a company for absolutely no wage at all. The best joke of this was an IT job I saw advertised, generally worth about 40-50k a year and they expect you to do it for free for the "experience". Sorry, but no matter how bad off I am for a job, I will not work for free for anybody.

Ya your not working for free. Your getting your social welfare and normal benefits and at least your getting some experience for 6-12 months instead of sat at home scratching your arse. You can keep looking for work during this time.

moonpurple

ivor callelly is not available for work, he is a senator or else on his 10 hour commute between bantry and dublin

From: Clontarf (Dublin), Dublin
To: Bantry, Cork
Distance: 345.20 km (Show in Miles)
Time: 4 hr 34 min
Avoid Motorways Avoid Tolls Show Traffic
:pac:

Truley

All in favour of post-natal abortions for people who start dole threads in AH?

On another note, we haven't had a good oul' abortion debate in a while...

speedboatchase

The jobs are out there - I left my job to take a new job last sept. Didn't work out and I was let go after 4 months (it was a sales role). I got another job in feb and after 3 months I was offered a new job (I did journalism and was freelancing while working), which is exactly what I've always wanted to do - I've moved halfway down the country to take it too.

Fact is - the jobs are there if you make getting a job a full-time job in itself - when I got that job in feb I was getting calls about my applications and couldnt remember what they were for - because I was sending out about 6 CV's a day.

Avoid agencies - get any job that pays ok - look for the job you want while you're in your new job, it will help hugely for the employer to see you're already employed

People that are on the dole 12 months+ are lazy, unmotivated leeches - harsh but true. This ruling makes complete sense - if you're turning down jobs you can f**k right off and we'll take that dole from ya, cheers

K-9

speedboatchase wrote: »

The jobs are out there - I left my job to take a new job last sept. Didn't work out and I was let go after 4 months (it was a sales role). I got another job in feb and after 3 months I was offered a new job (I did journalism and was freelancing while working), which is exactly what I've always wanted to do - I've moved halfway down the country to take it too.

Fact is - the jobs are there if you make getting a job a full-time job in itself - when I got that job in feb I was getting calls about my applications and couldnt remember what they were for - because I was sending out about 6 CV's a day.

Avoid agencies - get any job that pays ok - look for the job you want while you're in your new job, it will help hugely for the employer to see you're already employed

People that are on the dole 12 months+ are lazy, unmotivated leeches - harsh but true. This ruling makes complete sense - if you're turning down jobs you can f**k right off and we'll take that dole from ya, cheers

450,000 jobs out there?

speedboatchase

K-9 wrote: »

450,000 jobs out there?

There's not 450,000 jobs - what I'm saying is if you REALLY want a job you can get one, then you get the job you want a lot easier if you keep looking while you're employed. And if you really want a job you're not going to spend 12 months+ on the dole - too many people get stuck in a rut and 450,000 are NOT looking for a job right now

Buford T Justice

speedboatchase wrote: »

There's not 450,000 jobs - what I'm saying is if you REALLY want a job you can get one, then you get the job you want a lot easier if you keep looking while you're employed. And if you really want a job you're not going to spend 12 months+ on the dole - too many people get stuck in a rut and 450,000 are NOT looking for a job right now

I was made redundant two weeks ago
So should I take a low paid job and then not be able to afford childcare or my mortgage just because it makes you feel better that I'm off the dole?

Its Called the poverty trap.

JONJO THE MISER

Awww, ewwwwww stretches......:eek: did someone say something about taking my dole away?

maxxie

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

Those cretins on the dole should try the governments job of balancing an income of 34 billion and spending 40 billion on social welfare and the public service. I'd like to see what they'd think of the dole then.

Its amazing that somebody with an attitude like you exists.
Makes you lose a little bit of hope in humanity!

Biggins

Brumm... brumm... I bored driving around this constant roundabout. I think I'll turn on the radio to hear some tunes.
It might break the monotony. I wonder what's playing?

mikom

Biggins wrote: »

I wonder what's playing?

Its a FAS triple play.

Working on the Highway — Bruce Springsteen & the E Street Band

Working in a Coal Mine — Lee Dorsey

Working Class Hero — John Lennon

Mr Benevolent

Wait, wait. The government is going to do our job searching for us? WOOHOO!

boboirl

speedboatchase wrote: »

People that are on the dole 12 months+ are lazy, unmotivated leeches - harsh but true. This ruling makes complete sense - if you're turning down jobs you can f**k right off and we'll take that dole from ya, cheers

I'd have to disagree with you there... not everyone on the dole >12 months are "lazy, unmotivated leeches". Just because you got very lucky it doesn't mean everyone else can do the same.

I know a few people on the dole >12 months who are doing their very best to remedy their situation and would be justifiably angry of such an arrogant attitude.

Ostrom

speedboatchase wrote: »

There's not 450,000 jobs - what I'm saying is if you REALLY want a job you can get one, then you get the job you want a lot easier if you keep looking while you're employed. And if you really want a job you're not going to spend 12 months+ on the dole - too many people get stuck in a rut and 450,000 are NOT looking for a job right now

What a steaming populist pile of ****e. I hope you never have to experience how soul destroying it is to be made feel like scum for reclaiming your contributions. Did all 450000 decide to down tools with a more attractive dole package? (note: all) There is nothing attractive about it to the majority who want out. Thanks to people like yourself reproducing this nonsense, these proposals may just pass.

bigeasyeah

Any chance of a few pics of hot women?

reallyrose

dr.bollocko wrote: »

This chap. Catching on quick he is.

And yet, noone listened.

I swear, everyone is just copy-pasting posts from other blahblahdoleblah threads.