World Cup Draft Discussion Thread

Mr. Guappa

Archimedes wrote: »

Officially retired I take it. Not someone at the end of their career who has just stopped being called up without officially announcing their retirement.

This is another grey area.. how about anyone who previously played at a World Cup but is not at this one? That would take any ambiguity out of it.

The Volt

Mr. Guappa wrote: »

This is another grey area.. how about anyone who previously played at a World Cup but is not at this one? That would take any ambiguity out of it.

Yeah seeing as how it's a world cup draft that would make sense.

Necronomicon

I think retired from the game would be best - because if you pick a legend who's still playing in some capacity, I'd assume you're getting that player as he is now, rather than at his peak.

Peyton Manning

Necronomicon wrote: »

I think retired from the game would be best - because if you pick a legend who's still playing in some capacity, I'd assume you're getting that player as he is now, rather than at his peak.

Exactly. We al know who we're referring to. Ronaldo. As much as I'd love him in my team, his current ability doesn't justify a pick in Round 4, which is the only round he is eligible for. This game shouldn't have any grey areas, Round 7 should purely be for players who are not playing football anymore, club or international.

eagle eye

I think we should just not have that round.

curry-muff

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Agree 100%. Those of us in the top end of the draw for this round have a long wait while quality of the likes of Essien and Cambiasso got snapped up.

There are way more than 20 legends of the game to choose from so it's not unfair. If the goalposts are changed at this stage it's absurd because like yourself I've been making plans for future rounds, and also taking into account the fact many players won't be open to me in this round.

Not right that those of us with a long wait in Rd 4 should have potentially a long wait for Rd 7 too.

You've got to be joking, clearly its the top half of the draw that has the biggest advantage, they get first pick in the first round and the legends round, complaining about the bottom half getting first pick in round 4 is pathetic.

redzerdrog

Archimedes wrote: »

Exactly. We al know who we're referring to. Ronaldo. As much as I'd love him in my team, his current ability doesn't justify a pick in Round 4, which is the only round he is eligible for. This game shouldn't have any grey areas, Round 7 should purely be for players who are not playing football anymore, club or international.

i dont think you should have mentioned the name because some people might have taught he was a good pick for this round and have now changed their mind or the opposite some might be struggling for a pick and now have an idea

eagle eye

redzerdrog wrote: »

i dont think you should have mentioned the name because some people might have taught he was a good pick for this round and have now changed their mind or the opposite some might be struggling for a pick and now have an idea

Somehow I don't think so.

LuckyLloyd

curry-muff wrote: »

You've got to be joking, clearly its the top half of the draw that has the biggest advantage, they get first pick in the first round and the legends round, complaining about the bottom half getting first pick in round 4 is pathetic.

Yeah, it is a bit of a ridiculous complaint but so what. Getting one of the top five picks in this process was an absolutely massive advantage but thems the breaks.

Frisbee

Surely before the draft started was the time to raise these complaints?

You can't change the rules halfway through the game as people will already have strategies/players planned out.

LuckyLloyd

Hmm, surprised to see Alex go at all this round to be perfectly honest.

flahavaj

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Hmm, surprised to see Alex go at all this round to be perfectly honest.

Thought he was a great pick myself. First choice centre back at the champions of England. Had a really solid season too.

titan18

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Hmm, surprised to see Alex go at all this round to be perfectly honest.

Same, thought Beckham was a weird pick too, and I hadn't expected Modric to go, but it's an ok pick.

BigBenRoeth

titan18 wrote: »

Same, thought Beckham was a weird pick too, and I hadn't expected Modric to go, but it's an ok pick.

Thaught Beckham was a bit of an odd pick myself....was happy to have Modric myself



*EDIT* this coming from the sad person who picked Palacios first

redzerdrog

i have a shortlist of 5 players that i cant believe are still here but there is only xavi before me and i wont be on again till 2morro evening so if someone wants to take my picks i will pm them

The Volt

Yeah go on mate I'll take them from ya.

redzerdrog

Voltwad wrote: »

Yeah go on mate I'll take them from ya.

cheers i have it down to 2 players just have to try make up my mind who is my 1st choice

T-b0n3

Great game. I'll definitely be following this. Don't know if I'd be dedicated enough and good enough to be able to compete myself though. Some odd choices so far and some good teams being build.

BigBenRoeth

I've a question about the legends round actually.
Can dead players be picked?
I assume they can?

The Volt

BigBenRoeth wrote: »

I've a question about the legends round actually.
Can dead players be picked?
I assume they can?

As long as they played in the tournament finals and are retired then yes.

BigBenRoeth

Voltwad wrote: »

As long as they played in the tournament finals and are retired then yes.

Sorted so,cheers!

Peyton Manning

Voltwad wrote: »

As long as they played in the tournament finals and are retired then yes.

So no George Best then?

The Volt

Archimedes wrote: »

So no George Best then?

Nope, arguably the greatest player to have never competed in the finals

BigBenRoeth

Voltwad wrote: »

Nope, arguably the greatest player to have never competed in the finals

Paolo di Canio being another one,but that's another story for another thread

Frisbee

Xavi ya bollox, you've destroyed my round

Mr.Nice Guy

curry-muff wrote: »

You've got to be joking, clearly its the top half of the draw that has the biggest advantage, they get first pick in the first round and the legends round, complaining about the bottom half getting first pick in round 4 is pathetic.

Bollocks.

Take me. I picked Drogba in round 1 being the number 6 in the draw. Now he is a very good acquisition, but not exactly on a different level to other players taken in the other levels of the draw. Eto'o for instance (number 17). I had to wait a long time to get my number 2 pick as well. Fair enough.

This round, I've seen top players get snapped up who I would have loved. This disadvantages me does it not? I knew I could rule out the likes of Cambiasso and Modric. Again, fair enough as the legends round balances it out. There are more quality players available in the legends round than in this round. You have to work with your advantages and your disadvantages.

Why should people in my area of the draw potentially have to be disadvantaged in Rd 7 when we have had to deal with that this round? That's pathetic and a bloody ludicrous notion.

curry-muff

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Bollocks.

Take me. I picked Drogba in round 1 being the number 6 in the draw. Now he is a very good acquisition, but not exactly on a different level to other players taken in the other levels of the draw. Eto'o for instance (number 17). I had to wait a long time to get my number 2 pick as well. Fair enough.

This round, I've seen top players get snapped up who I would have loved. This disadvantages me does it not? I knew I could rule out the likes of Cambiasso and Modric. Again, fair enough as the legends round balances it out. There are more quality players available in the legends round than in this round. You have to work with your advantages and your disadvantages.

Why should people in my area of the draw potentially have to be disadvantaged in Rd 7 when we have had to deal with that this round? That's pathetic and a bloody ludicrous notion.

First of all I was just posting asking people in the top half to stop crying about being on the low end of the draw for one round, despite being on the best end of two of the 3 most important rounds.

Secondly you said

This round, I've seen top players get snapped up who I would have loved. This disadvantages me does it not?

Boo hoo this happens the bottom half on 6/11 rounds!!!

Thirdly, not once did I suggest that anyone should be 'disadvantaged' as you put it in the 7th round, so don't call me pathetic after your stupid post, just accept that you are on the most favourable side of the draw and stop whinging about one round :rolleyes:

eagle eye

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Bollocks.

Take me. I picked Drogba in round 1 being the number 6 in the draw. Now he is a very good acquisition, but not exactly on a different level to other players taken in the other levels of the draw. Eto'o for instance (number 17). I had to wait a long time to get my number 2 pick as well. Fair enough.

This round, I've seen top players get snapped up who I would have loved. This disadvantages me does it not? I knew I could rule out the likes of Cambiasso and Modric. Again, fair enough as the legends round balances it out. There are more quality players available in the legends round than in this round. You have to work with your advantages and your disadvantages.

Why should people in my area of the draw potentially have to be disadvantaged in Rd 7 when we have had to deal with that this round? That's pathetic and a bloody ludicrous notion.

No this is a load of bollocks.

A legends round is so unfair and unbalanced, its the best of the best all time. Its way more uneven than a round containing world cup players or non-world cup players currently playing football.

You got to pick at no.6 in the first round. I got to pick at no.20.
I got first pick at the players not in the World Cup you get to pick at 15 in that round.
Everything is fair.

This legends round makes it unfair. I'm not looking to be first to pick in the round of the legends, I just think that round should be omitted.

If you are going to have a legends round then you have to have two to try and balance it up. And tbh its something that could be a whole other draft instead of bothering with it in this draft.

Mr.Nice Guy

curry-muff wrote: »

First of all I was just posting asking people in the top half to stop crying about being on the low end of the draw for one round, despite being on the best end of two of the 3 most important rounds.

Eh nobody was 'crying' about that. The issue came about due to suggestions those in the bottom half were hard done by in Rd 7 and that perhaps the draw should be altered for that round. It was pointed out by some of us that it actually worked out quite fairly overall.

curry-muff wrote:

Boo hoo this happens the bottom half on 6/11 rounds!!!

Wow, well done. You make it look like I'm whingeing by editing out the bit where I went on to say in the next sentence:

...Again, fair enough as the legends round balances it out. There are more quality players available in the legends round than in this round. You have to work with your advantages and your disadvantages.

Wise up ffs. :rolleyes:

curry-muff wrote:

Thirdly, not once did I suggest that anyone should be 'disadvantaged' as you put it in the 7th round, so don't call me pathetic after your stupid post, just accept that you are on the most favourable side of the draw and stop whinging about one round :rolleyes:

Firstly, you introduced the word 'pathetic' not me. It acutally reads like you came in with all guns blazing without actually looking at the other posts in the thread. You may not have suggested anyone should be disadvantaged but it was mooted that this ought to happen in Rd 7. This is the whole point and was what Necro and myself disagreed with.

There was no 'boo hoo' whingeing and we were not complaining about the fact that those in Rd 4 got to pick first. We were pointing out this round was FAIR ENOUGH and that therefore Rd 7 was also fair. Again, if you had actually looked at the issue instead of coming in with all guns blazing you might have seen that.

I haven't been whingeing about my place in this round at all. I've said it's FAIR on the overall scheme of things. If you tried looking at things more carefully and didn't alter my posts in such a petty manner you might have spotted that.

Mr.Nice Guy

eagle eye wrote: »

No this is a load of bollocks.

A legends round is so unfair and unbalanced, its the best of the best all time. Its way more uneven than a round containing world cup players or non-world cup players currently playing football.

You got to pick at no.6 in the first round. I got to pick at no.20.
I got first pick at the players not in the World Cup you get to pick at 15 in that round.
Everything is fair.

This legends round makes it unfair. I'm not looking to be first to pick in the round of the legends, I just think that round should be omitted.

If you are going to have a legends round then you have to have two to try and balance it up. And tbh its something that could be a whole other draft instead of bothering with it in this draft.

I don't really go along with that as the nature of the draw system is that while you got number 20 in Rd 1 which is a disadvantage, you also got number 1 in Rd 2 which is surely an advantage? Is that not levelling the playng field? I got what, 14 in Rd 2? Too late to know if that's right. :pac:

The legends round certainly requires thinking outside the box as for example I know about 4 players I can definitely write off, even though I have a far handier draw that round than you, but I think Rd 4 levelled that playing field on your end as I had to write off a lot of quality acquisitions.

I recognise it is the best of all time and I think we both know the players who will go first, second etc. but every team should have a star player there since the list of possiblities in Rd 7 is massive.

The main problem I have is, like Necro, having to plan for factors such as a tricky Rd 4 draw and a decent Rd 7 draw. It was said there would be two special rounds and that some of us would have it tough in one and handy in another. If the goalposts get changed at this point then it becomes farcical.