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Regular Team Tournaments?

  • 31-05-2010 7:09am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭


    Okay , for those not there on Saturday, it wasn't all negative.

    We ran a team tournament instead. Random teams chosen, fiver in. All held on one machine. For the 1st time ever, we got direct recording of the entire thing. As well as the doom cam recording the players and crowd.
    I shall be putting the entire thing together and uploading during the week.

    Now this little event turned out to be really great fun. I had a blast despite playing horrible and getting knocked out early and letting down my teammate.:o
    Speedboat became the legendary giant killer and made for some very entertaining matches to watch.
    It was just a really good buzz I must say and everyone agreed that they'd love to do it again.

    So I'm putting forth the questions to the community. Would you like to have a regular team tournament , maybe.... once a month in between the inferno's?

    All aspects of this are up for debate :

    date, pricing, console, etc etc although I think a fiver and keeping it to 1 console works well.

    2ndly we need a name. So I'm looking for all suggestions for name as I'll need one for editing these vids!

    So please everyone I'd love to hear input on this. :D


    **edit**

    I'd also like to give a shout out to Terry for helping me with the direct recording, couldn't have got it going without yea m8.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,229 ✭✭✭Dreddybajs


    Definitely up for this, I vote for a fiver per person in, doesn't bother me what console it's run on though I agree it should be kept to one machine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭Sisko


    Also yeah the fact that it was random teams kinda worked nicely , keeps it more light hearted new player friendly - where anything can happen.

    We don't necessarily have to run it on a Saturday, might be something that could work on a Sunday or Wednesday too - not saying we should deffo do this, just saying its worth discussion.

    It can be more of a flexible kinda thing.

    These things really are great fun, I was on the edge of my seat watching sairus (my teammate) and speedboats fight , it makes an atmosphere for the spectators.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,850 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    I'm glad I got to see the tail-end of it, Speedboat repping Abel and beating those OTHER top-tier whores! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,229 ✭✭✭Dreddybajs


    I don't really like the idea of random teams every time


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    I really, really enjoyed Saturday is the funny thing!

    The ending to my and speedboats match must be awesome, that's twice he's ruined my day :)

    My only concern would be overkill with the SF tournaments. Especially as kneecap wants to run a league.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭Sisko


    Dreddybajs wrote: »
    I don't really like the idea of random teams every time

    Well thats up for debate of course but everyone there at the time thought it worked out nicely.

    How would we go about doing a non random one anyway?


    I really, really enjoyed Saturday is the funny thing!

    The ending to my and speedboats match must be awesome, that's twice he's ruined my day :)

    My only concern would be overkill with the SF tournaments. Especially as kneecap wants to run a league.

    Yeah was thinking that when I saw kneecaps thread , something to discuss alright too. Before kneecaps posted that , the talk of the day was to just to have inferno and this once a month.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,333 ✭✭✭Sairus


    Sisko wrote: »
    I had a blast despite playing horrible and getting knocked out early and letting down my teammate.
    Someday I may be able forgive you.

    However, I agree. Even being knocked out in the first round, it was a great event.

    I dont know how it'd be possible to slot these in along with the Infernos and the new League without oversaturating the scene with XGC tourneys though.
    Maybe not have these as a regular event and just stick one on whenever there's a break.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 599 ✭✭✭FoamyMushroom


    Im easily in for this, pity I wasnt there on Saturday.... Will be there next saturday though :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Orim


    Don't forget DoC! I want to get that established.

    I think it's too much, we already have a regular SSF4 tournament in Inferno. The team tournaments are good crack but I think they are best off as a random event depending on numbers etc rather than being an established event.

    I would also be against an established team tournament being random teams. That's fine when it's just something that's done on the day but if you say we have a team tournament on the second week of the month and advertise it, random teams doesn't cut it imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,085 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    Could we kill two birds with one stone and make DoC a team tournament from now on?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭Sisko


    Fair enough but I'd foresee problems with non random teams...

    but I'd deffo wanna see more of these, maybe no so regular I guess.


    Irregular team tournaments might be better alright , again not always having to take place on a saturday etc etc


    Can the anti random people give more info on why they'd be against it and how set teams would work? I notice the anti random teams are people who missed the event , maybe yeas need to have been there :p


    Also , guys, either way, we still have one done and dusted and recored. I need a name for it! Help!!!:pac:
    Could we kill two birds with one stone and make DoC a team tournament from now on?

    Well personally I'd rather the team tourney to be a super sf4 thing anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭animaX


    Sisko wrote: »
    Would you like to have a regular team tournament , maybe.... once a month in between the inferno's?

    I'd also like to give a shout out to Terry for helping me with the direct recording, couldn't have got it going without yea m8.

    Whether not this goes through as a regular event i think it should be named after the winners of the inaugural event! So it should be called the "AzzamaX" tournament :P

    Even though i carried the team but you know, you have to give azza a mention for being there.

    I'm really glad we could test the recording and am looking forward to the vids but i've also been thinking about an alternative. Since we ended up playing in standard def anyway, it might be less laggy to go into a DVD recorder and then scart output to tv. This is what i did in my original recording in the direct feed thread and if i remember correctly, it would have been a bit less sluggish than saturdays setup. I might post more info in an update to the direct feed thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Orim


    Sisko, I was at the first team tournament, I was involved in organising the first team tournament so I know how much of a laugh they can be.

    However if you try to make it a regular event, then you might get people travelling specifically to enter the team tournament. What do you do then?

    Also it's too much SSFIV imo. I've no problem making some of the DoC games team tournaments but from the first one, it looks like they won't get enough interest to make it worthwhile.

    I would say keep it random in and of itself. Any casuals where there is a good number of people then try and run it but I think it's not the time for a regular team tournament.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭Sagat06


    I dont think these should be a regular 'event'. They are great fun and open up a different side to the game.

    But we are organising and scheduling a lot of stuff at the moment and I think something like this should be left to an impromtu suggestion at casuals, numbers permitting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 551 ✭✭✭Monkeyto


    I'm up for any team based tournaments. Count me in. Either established or random teams. Adds to the craic!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 800 ✭✭✭The Hound


    This sounds good, my only problem is playing xbox because its a major handicap for me as I'm terrible on the PS1/2 pad. Its just not the same. I think I'll be better using a standard xbox pad tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭Sisko


    Don't worry hound I'd push for this to be on PS3 , it makes far more sense to do it on that unless cobelcog turns up.

    Orim wrote: »
    Sisko, I was at the first team tournament, I was involved in organising the first team tournament so I know how much of a laugh they can be.

    Ah but how do you know the one you were at was as fun as this one eh? EH? :p :pac:

    Was it random and on a single machine?

    Orim wrote: »
    However if you try to make it a regular event, then you might get people travelling specifically to enter the team tournament. What do you do then?

    Eh... play the team tournament? I don't see the problem :confused:
    Orim wrote: »
    Also it's too much SSFIV imo.

    I'm not gonna force people to play a game they don't wanna play and I also don't think we should disallow events for a game people do wanna play just cause it's played too much for some peoples tastes. :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Orim


    The tournament was random teams and on a single machine.

    It was also single elim if that makes a difference.

    People travel to team tournaments in a team. They will will want to play together. Do you break them up or do you allow them to play together? If you allow them to play together, what if other people want to play together?

    Tournaments tend to take over on the day they are on regardless of how many machines they are on. With regular team tournaments that will be the third SSF4 tournament/event and that is too much imo.

    I have pushed for more team tournaments in the past but I don't think they should be a regular, planned event. They work just fine as once in a while event at casuals that have the numbers to sustain them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭Owwmykneecap


    Teams of 3, only one instance of each charcter per team.

    do it in a pub!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,229 ✭✭✭Dreddybajs


    Sisko wrote: »
    Can the anti random people give more info on why they'd be against it and how set teams would work? I notice the anti random teams are people who missed the event , maybe yeas need to have been there :p

    I don't even understand why this needs to be explained, and agree with what Orim said. Random teams are fine if it's just an on-the-spot thing but if you're running a regular teams tourney there's no reason for people not to be allowed to pick their teammate. I'm sure people who show up and don't have one sorted will be happy to team with each other on the day anyway.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭Sisko


    Orim wrote: »
    People travel to team tournaments in a team. They will will want to play together. Do you break them up or do you allow them to play together? If you allow them to play together, what if other people want to play together?

    Eh , no like if it was a random team tourney event, obviously it'd be advertised as so , so they'd know well in advance that their teammate will be randomly chosen.


    Just for clarity I'm not putting this forward as 'my' idea , we ran that event, everyone loved it and everyone thought it'd be great to do another, I have vids recorded so I'm looking for a name for the event thus I made the thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Orim


    Sisko wrote: »
    Eh , no like if it was a random team tourney event, obviously it'd be advertised as so , so they'd know well in advance that their teammate will be randomly chosen.


    Just for clarity I'm not putting this forward as 'my' idea , we ran that event, everyone loved it and everyone thought it'd be great to do another, I have vids recorded so I'm looking for a name for the event thus I made the thread.

    People selectively read and I would bet that at a team tournament at least one pre-made team would turn up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭Xinkai


    Sisko you jerk i can't play on ps3 pad what now :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,085 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭ayjayirl


    The Hound wrote: »
    This sounds good, my only problem is playing xbox because its a major handicap for me as I'm terrible on the PS1/2 pad. Its just not the same. I think I'll be better using a standard xbox pad tbh.

    I have fightpads for both consoles..... Was unable to make Sat but Doom could have brought them :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,085 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    ayjayirl wrote: »
    I have fightpads for both consoles..... Was unable to make Sat but Doom could have brought them :)

    He plays on a regular Dual Shock 3 controller, which although looks very similar to a Dual Shock 2, it feels very different to use.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭Sisko


    Regarding the vids guys I'm just gonna put them up next week, in this thread and then maybe we talk a bit more about all this.

    Doom I've got all the footage on my HD now so I can give yea your card back.

    It seems some of the player footage is missing though, the 1st bit of footage on the card is lep v doom so we're missing me/sarius v speedboat/hakan player and then a doom v a vega players reaction shots (kneecaps I assume).

    But we have all the fights and all the other reaction shots from what I can see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭chunkis


    Londons exceed team tournament has fixed teams, but that rule isn`t enforced, if one of the team members can`t make it anybody can play to make up the numbers.

    I don`t mind either way, although having proper teams would be cool, am down for random select as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭Owwmykneecap


    yip thats me.

    A Team tourny would work really well in a pub only one xbox would be needed and the crowd would know who to support and who to boo ( terry's team)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭Sisko


    Lads anyone know the name of the hakan player that was at the random team tourney?

    There was 3 new guys in total, can people name them all actually?


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    If we were doing a pub I think I'd quite enjoy doing as chunkis says, proper teams. Get some mad hype going, but don't let it get too serious and rule bound if for example someone doesn't show up.

    I know a place that'd prob have a room we could rent.

    However, tis a bit of an old lads pub so there'd be no atmosphere save which we could provide.

    We'd have to pay for that though so we'd need numbers.

    I'll find out the cost.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    Sisko wrote: »
    Doom I've got all the footage on my HD now so I can give yea your card back.

    It seems some of the player footage is missing though, the 1st bit of footage on the card is lep v doom so we're missing me/sarius v speedboat/hakan player and then a doom v a vega players reaction shots (kneecaps I assume).

    One of my SD cards seems to be corrupt dude, so there's your answer :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭Sisko


    Blue one? Was perfectly fine for me. From the looks of it , seemed it was simply a forget to press record situation as video 19 was from some different event and video 20 is you sitting down to play leprakaun :p

    Tis no biggie at all have the 1st 20 mins of the tourney edited just but I can't begin uploading till I know the name of the hakan player :p

    Also I keep forgetting but whos the ryu player with the irish SE stick? Hounds teammate.

    Then there's the red 360 pad blanka player, dunno who he is and another guy, havnt got to his fight yet so I forget who he plays atm.

    Just gonna keep editing away , when I get names I'll start uploading till I reach a match with a nameless guy.

    If we can't find out someones name I'll just put ??? unless somone has a more amusing suggestion. :pac:


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    Sisko wrote: »
    Blue one? Was perfectly fine for me. From the looks of it , seemed it was simply a forget to press record situation as video 19 was from some different event and video 20 is you sitting down to play leprakaun :p

    Tis no biggie at all have the 1st 20 mins of the tourney edited just but I can't begin uploading till I know the name of the hakan player :p

    Also I keep forgetting but whos the ryu player with the irish SE stick? Hounds teammate.

    Then there's the red 360 pad blanka player, dunno who he is and another guy, havnt got to his fight yet so I forget who he plays atm.

    Just gonna keep editing away , when I get names I'll start uploading till I reach a match with a nameless guy.

    If we can't find out someones name I'll just put ??? unless somone has a more amusing suggestion. :pac:

    I think hounds team mate was bourke the jerk/ bourkenator.

    I think the pad player was odgenator.

    The Hakan I don't know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭Sisko


    Ah your right yes, bourke the jerk - bourkenator , sorry m8 if your reading this :p Haven't got around to chatting to you yet at the meets bar complementing the Irish SE.


    odgenator? Hmm I thought he was a PS3 player , anyway not got to his vids yet. We shall see.


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    Sisko wrote: »
    odgenator? Hmm I thought he was a PS3 player , anyway not got to his vids yet. We shall see.

    He might but he deffo plays on Xbox, I ran into him and said "oh you should totally come to our tournaments" and he said something along the lines of "yeah... so EVERYONE keeps telling me..." :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭animaX


    Sisko wrote: »
    Tis no biggie at all have the 1st 20 mins of the tourney edited just but I can't begin uploading till I know the name of the hakan player :p

    You could just upload the vids and edit the names later, no?

    As for the two northern guys (one played hakan, other played dudley), i don't think they post on boards so its doubtful that they'll respond here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭Speed Boat


    The Hakan player was called Stephen and the Blanka(red xbox pad) was Eamon, whom i think is ogiekeany on Xbox live.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭Sisko


    Right so I'm editing Terry and Azza's match against the 2 new guys who ended up on the same team.

    One is a mad catz pad using Ryu player and the other is the red 360 pad blanka player speedboat says is Eamon. Anyone any idea who the ryu player is?


    **edit**

    May as well through these up, I'm going to Rage Against the Machine tomorrow so I dunno how much if I'll have the next one on youtube by tomorrow.



    :o





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭animaX


    Thats great sisko, its so good to finally see some direct feed recording (even if it was dodgy to play on). Nice name overlays too.

    Nice to see the players in the crowd footage too!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,181 ✭✭✭✭Jim


    I'll be up for this. As people said, forming proper teams would be the best for the atmosphere etc. Get a team together before the tournament and have that team for future ones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭Sisko


    Cheers, production quality wise though things still aint at the level I'd like , the name overlays are only so so, I suck at the design elements of that kinda stuff and I dunno photoshop aint the best for creating shapes.

    But its a step in the right direction at least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭Sisko


    Sisko wrote: »
    Right so I'm editing Terry and Azza's match against the 2 new guys who ended up on the same team.

    One is a mad catz pad using Ryu player and the other is the red 360 pad blanka player speedboat says is Eamon. Anyone any idea who the ryu player is?

    Right I'll just put a question mark down I guess.

    its the guy standing up here just incase anyone thinks of it when they see him and can tell me before I upload this next one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-q5z9tlhNE#t=10m53s

    **edit**

    Chunkis calls out the guys name , sounds like mark mulholland ?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-q5z9tlhNE#t=10m41s


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭animaX


    Nevermind, looks like you found his name!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭Sisko




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭Sagat06


    Dooms reaction lol :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭Sisko


    Hehe yeah doom had some gas ones alright , I was also amused at how daigo like chunkis was, no reaction what so ever.

    Speedboats just all relaxed as hell while playing , until he wins , all this makes for a fun to watch video alright.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    Sagat06 wrote: »
    Dooms reaction lol :D

    I actually kind of feel bad about that, I walked off without shaking his hand.

    Hating myself for falling for Abels U2 15 times, for that I blame myself :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,878 ✭✭✭bush


    Sagat06 wrote: »
    Dooms reaction lol :D



    Salty.


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