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Is it time to give the catholic church back the power they once had?

  • 30-05-2010 10:36pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,763 ✭✭✭


    In light of everything that's going wrong with the country I think this is the only solution left. Give the catholic church the powers they once had over the state. Give people a decent catholic education and instill good catholic morals back in to people. Maybe then we'd be able to stop the government from stealing tax payers money from us and all this talk of abortion and gay rights that seems to have our country going off on a spiraling decline in to recession.


    Non-secular states seem to work pretty good in the middle east. Look at Iran for instance. Probably the lowest crime rate in the world, little to no government corruption and they're even basically a nuclear power at this stage. The only real problem is that they're not Christians. However, it's a good example to go by.

    What do you think?


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  • Posts: 1,427 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sigh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭we'llallhavetea_old


    yes, because we're all christian don't ya know. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Podge2k7


    No


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,763 ✭✭✭Sheeps


    yes, because we're all christian don't ya know. :rolleyes:

    Serious answers only please.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭TanG411


    Sheeps wrote: »
    Serious answers only please.

    Ha!

    Ha!!

    Not in AH buddy.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,145 ✭✭✭DonkeyStyle \o/


    Yeah and get rid of all this contraception stuff too... more unplanned pregnancies and STDs is just what the doctor ordered.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,054 ✭✭✭SadieSue


    I hear the 1950's calling! Sure set up a few industrial schools and orphanages that will sort out the employment crisis!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,806 ✭✭✭✭KeithM89_old


    Yeah - not enough kids are being molested these days...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭Takeshi_Kovacs


    No, the Catholic Church will not sort this countries problems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,763 ✭✭✭Sheeps


    No, the Catholic Church will not sort this countries problems.

    Yeah, it will.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭Takeshi_Kovacs


    How, it has had not such a glorious history up to now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭The Pontiac


    Christ, I hate trolls.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    It's too soon for us to have gone full circle yet.:mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭Kasabian


    While your at it OP can we clone Hitler and give him another chance .

    /yes I did it , It had to be done


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,763 ✭✭✭Sheeps


    Kasabian wrote: »
    While your at it OP can we clone Hitler and give him another chance .

    /yes I did it , It had to be done

    Hitler actually did a lot of good for Germany even though he killed loads of Jews.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    Might make lazy atheists grow a pair and be f*cking militant for once.

    Actually no the thoughts of Richard Dawkins waging a guerilla war are possibly more delusional than the earch being 10,000 years old.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 Mr Tickles


    Ok quite honest, please look into the history of this country. The Education system alone is still recovering from what the Church did to it and it is only now that serious developments and effective reforms are coming into place.

    Associating abortion and gay rights to the recession is just wrong and unfounded. You are asking for serious replies. That is one for you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,094 ✭✭✭jd007




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,228 ✭✭✭epgc3fyqirnbsx


    Oh what a grand little notion
    Bring back dancing at the crossroads, jigs 'n reels 'n poitín and comely maidens who wear their skirts below their knees and who will sit on the heather with you and proclaim their intentions to be a good faithfull catholic wife in return for your promise of children and land and a pletiful supply of potatoes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 216 ✭✭KJF


    Put down the bottle and go to bed. I find it hard to believe there are people who still think like this is this day and age.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    Sheeps wrote: »
    Hitler actually did a lot of good for Germany and even though he killed loads of Jews.

    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,698 ✭✭✭Risteard


    Considering the people in the government would have been educated whilst the Catholic church had a lot more power, I don't see how giving them more power changes anything?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭Kasabian


    Sheeps wrote: »
    Hitler actually did a lot of good for Germany even though he killed loads of Jews.

    Oh sweet Jesus , I have to leave this thread now , it has everything I hate

    I would hate to see what you think was bad


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Sheeps wrote: »
    Hitler actually did a lot of good for Germany even though he killed loads of Jews.

    As in the trains ran on time :pac:

    Trollers gonna Troll!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭Kasabian


    Oh what a grand little notion
    Bring back dancing at the crossroads, jigs 'n reels 'n poitín and comely maidens who wear their skirts below their knees and who will sit on the heather with you and proclaim their intentions to be a good faithfull catholic wife in return for your promise of children and land and a pletiful supply of potatoes


    Ah Mayo , you gotta love it . Such a simple place :P :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,588 ✭✭✭derfderf


    I think bringing back Glenroe would be a much more positive move for the country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Sheeps wrote: »
    In light of everything that's going wrong with the country I think this is the only solution left. Give the catholic church the powers they once had over the state. Give people a decent catholic education and instill good catholic morals back in to people. Maybe then we'd be able to stop the government from stealing tax payers money from us and all this talk of abortion and gay rights that seems to have our country going off on a spiraling decline in to recession.
    If only those politicians where brought up in a God fearing Catholic country like the one you describe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭RMD


    You realise back when the catholic church were the major authority in this country is was an economic ****hole of a country when most were prospering?

    The reason Iran has such a low criminal rate is not because it's religious, it's because their punishments are insanely harsh and their prison systems are pretty much inhumane.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,763 ✭✭✭Sheeps


    Duggy747 wrote: »
    As in the trains ran on time :pac:

    Trollers gonna Troll!

    That's a disgraceful joke to make.

    A number of things Hitler did that were good for Germany:
    1. Rebuilt German Industry
    2. Brought Germany out of recession after the wall street crash
    3. Built up Volswagen
    4. Built Roads
    5. Seperated church and state
    6. Rebuilt the German defence forces


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,825 ✭✭✭Fart


    Kasabian wrote: »
    While your at it OP can we clone Hitler and give him another chance .

    /yes I did it , It had to be done

    :eek:... You sicken me!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    Sheeps wrote: »
    Non-secular states seem to work pretty good in the middle east. Look at Iran for instance. Probably the lowest crime rate in the world, little to no government corruption and they're even basically a nuclear power at this stage.

    A simple bit of research would have shown you that Iran has a higher murder rate than Ireland, ranks as one of the ten most corrupt countries in the world and is not a nuclear power, basically or otherwise.

    Any other good examples?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,183 ✭✭✭storm2811




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,825 ✭✭✭Fart


    Sheeps wrote: »
    That's a disgraceful joke to make.

    A number of things Hitler did that were good for Germany:
    1. Rebuilt German Industry
    2. Brought Germany out of recession after the wall street crash
    3. Built up Volswagen
    4. Built Roads
    5. Seperated church and state
    6. Rebuilt the German defence forces

    *Started World War 2


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭Kasabian


    Fart wrote: »
    :eek:... You sicken me!!!

    I don't care , Fart


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,183 ✭✭✭storm2811


    Sheeps wrote: »
    1. Seperated church and state

    Doesn't this go against the point you're trying to make?:pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,763 ✭✭✭Sheeps


    no cause its a different topic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 972 ✭✭✭MultiUmm




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Sheeps wrote: »
    That's a disgraceful joke to make.

    A number of things Hitler did that were good for Germany:
    1. Rebuilt German Industry
    2. Brought Germany out of recession after the wall street crash
    3. Built up Volswagen
    4. Built Roads
    5. Seperated church and state
    6. Rebuilt the German defence forces

    We also know quite a lot about medical treatments like pneumonia and the genetics of twins because of the barbaric way the Jews were used like guinea pigs by the sick doctors (Dr.Death being the main culprit)

    "They see me trolling........they hatin'!....."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭Kasabian


    Sheeps wrote: »
    That's a disgraceful joke to make.


    A number of things Hitler did that were good for Germany:
    1. Rebuilt German Industry
    2. Brought Germany out of recession after the wall street crash
    3. Built up Volswagen
    4. Built Roads
    5. Seperated church and state
    6. Rebuilt the German defence forces


    Started a war that cost the lives of countless innocents ,

    Please give it a break your not very good at it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,763 ✭✭✭Sheeps


    I was talking about good things he did for Germany that were not at the same time Evil. Please stop trolling this thread.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭RMD


    Sheeps wrote: »
    Maybe then we'd be able to stop the government from stealing tax payers money from us and all this talk of abortion and gay rights that seems to have our country going off on a spiraling decline in to recession.

    How would raising people with a strict catholic background stop corruption in the government? Considering how corrupt the Catholic church is a whole it's not a good example at all of preventing corruption.

    And ye, how does talks of abortion and gay rights have anything to do with the recession? Noticed the entire world is in an economic recession?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I lived through and saw at first hand its neurotic hypocritical death throes and that was bad enough. The full on version? No. Just no.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,331 ✭✭✭✭bronte


    This is a fantastic idea. Fantastic.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Well I'm having fun.
    Is everyone else having fun?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    Sheeps wrote: »
    instill good catholic morals back in to people

    Unfortunately we'd have to instil those into the church first!

    Basic respect, fairness and common sense, combined with a lack of greed, is all that is required.......and I'd agree with you on that list; all of the above are sadly lacking in far too many people.

    But accountability is also required, and the catholic church as an organisation doesn't do accountability.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    Sheeps wrote: »
    In light of everything that's going wrong with the country I think this is the only solution left. Give the catholic church the powers they once had over the state.....

    What do you think?

    I think that you are quite mad.
    The Catholic Church is a primary source for a lot of the problems in the country and the main reason why the country is in the state that it is.

    Religion is immoral and the sooner that people live their lives for the 'day' and not spend 70 or 80 years trying to appease a mythological figure in order to achieve immortality, the better.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭Kasabian


    Sheeps wrote: »
    I was talking about good things he did for Germany that were not at the same time Evil. Please stop trolling this thread.

    Ultimately the mark left by him was that of sheer evil. The good things you profess he done where steps towards providing the mechanism to achieve his evil goals .

    Anyway back to the good old Catholic church............... where were we


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    Sheeps wrote: »
    Serious answers only please.

    Serious thread please.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Liam Byrne wrote: »
    Unfortunately we'd have to instil those into the church first!

    Basic respect, fairness and common sense, combined with a lack of greed, is all that is required.......and I'd agree with you on that list; all of the above are sadly lacking in far too many people.

    But accountability is also required, and the catholic church as an organisation doesn't do accountability.

    Though they are rather adept at accountancy. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,763 ✭✭✭Sheeps


    Also, if more people went to mass on a Sunday, with the donations they would give to the collection plate they'd be less likely to spend that money on drugs. Also we could start to use collection money to start pulling this country out of recession.


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