Dunnes stores because we,re irish

horse10

Dunnes stores slogan is because we,re irish and i was in my local dunnes and the girls on the tills weren,t irish so its a bit of false advertisement as i,m all for supporting irish companies and employees and would allways pick a irish worker if i was getting work done as i feel my moneys going bck into the economy and not some other countrys ,call me racist but i think i,m patriotic

mail4liam

scuse me I live in this ireland 2 years i am irish i work in the dunnes shop also

InReality

False advertising could be reported here.

http://www.asai.ie/

El_Drago

Fairly pathetic thread really.Once again the "foreigners" are the scape goats.There are jobs out there,you just have to be willing to keep on looking and working in places that you never thought you would.

wmpdd3

horse10 wrote: »

Dunnes stores slogan is because we,re irish and i was in my local dunnes and the girls on the tills weren,t irish so its a bit of false advertisement as i,m all for supporting irish companies and employees and would allways pick a irish worker if i was getting work done as i feel my moneys going bck into the economy and not some other countrys ,call me racist but i think i,m patriotic

Take it the OP didn't ask each person if they were born in Ireland, so they just assumed they were a different nationality. Lovely.....

Berty

Dunnes Stores - because we're Irish is a slogan for YOU to support Dunnes Stores because they BUY FROM IRISH COMPANIES and unlike Tesco they do not buy their stuff from the UK(incl Northern Ireland) and pass it off as Irish.

Musgrave(Centra, Daybreak, Supervalu) actually have been buying their stuff from the UK and screwing over Irish agents. Superquinn also stubbed their toes by having signs up saying something like "Why head to Northern Ireland, support you own" and then they bought their goods in Northern wholesalers.

So, YOU ARE asked to support an Irish employer, not an employer who employs Irish.

PURE UTTER RACISM. FAR TOO MUCH OF IT AROUND. :mad:

Reminds me of a funny story from an English guy I was working with in 2005. He said to me
"Im sick of all these foreigners coming here taking all the jobs"
"Where are you from again?"
"Yeah but thats different its only Ireland/England"

In 20 years you could have the Polish and others complaining about these foreigners coming from the US looking for work when their economy goes bang.

Buy from Dunnes and support Irish business where you can.

KatyaS

To: horse10

Im not saying that u a racist but u have to respect other nationalities.
Im not Irish but I live in Ireland for last 8 years and believe it or not I grew up in Ireland and I love it. I've been to other countries but I prefer Ireland. So u cant say that those girls a not Irish. I came to Ireland when I was 15 and I feel like I am an Irish now:)

bigeasyeah

The difference is there is no difference.

LaughOrDie

I usually try to shop anywhere except for Dunnes Stores. I used to work for them a few years ago and my experience of working for them left me fuelled with nothing but resentment for the company.

Mimojo

Berty wrote: »

Musgrave(Centra, Daybreak, Supervalu) actually have been buying their stuff from the UK and screwing over Irish agents.

This is wholly untrue - where did you get your info from there?!! Bit of a sweeping statement imo

punkindrublic

LaughOrDie wrote: »

I usually try to shop anywhere except for Dunnes Stores. I used to work for them a few years ago and my experience of working for them left me fuelled with nothing but resentment for the company.

A few of my friends used to work there and say the same thing. I don't mind dunnes too much but all of the staff on the tills look like they're on death row/hate life.

LaughOrDie

I think they actually train the managers to ensure that the staff feel unappreciated. Some of the assistant managers were sound enough, but store and area managers always seemed to be up their own A and rude to floor staff.

Berty

boozelerooze wrote: »

This is wholly untrue - where did you get your info from there?!! Bit of a sweeping statement imo

Professional Knowledge. Im unemployed for the same reason.

Mimojo

punkindrublic wrote: »

A few of my friends used to work there and say the same thing. I don't mind dunnes too much but all of the staff on the tills look like they're on death row/hate life.

From my current experience people working on tills have it tough - serious staff cut backs in all companies means that checkout staff are serious overworked and underpaid. They are getting shifts that are all over the place, and expected to do more and more for the same amount of money. Suppose it is just the way things are going right now, but from experience I think people who work on checkouts have a lot of deal with now, and people dont really ack that

punkindrublic

LaughOrDie wrote: »

I think they actually train the managers to ensure that the staff feel unappreciated. Some of the assistant managers were sound enough, but store and area managers always seemed to be up their own A and rude to floor staff.

There's a lady in my local dunnes.. I do my shopping on the same day/time and always see her. She runs around in a suit with a clipboard and I assume she's a manager but you can just see the look of fear in everyones eyes when she's around!

punkindrublic

boozelerooze wrote: »

From my current experience people working on tills have it tough - serious staff cut backs in all companies means that checkout staff are serious overworked and underpaid. They are getting shifts that are all over the place, and expected to do more and more for the same amount of money. Suppose it is just the way things are going right now, but from experience I think people who work on checkouts have a lot of deal with now, and people dont really ack that

yeah I understand though I don't think it's because of the recession because I had friends working there years ago when the economy was good and they were all depressed too, they just said that anyone who worked stocking shelves, tills, etc was treated like they were less of a person by people who were higher up in there. Even one of the guys who worked the night shift hated it because of the way he got treated and I always the night shift wouldn't be bad! Tescos staff do seem a little happier but I stopped shopping in there because they always forget to take the security tags off things every single time I buy something, then the alarms go off and everyone looks at me like I'm a thief! Ack.

shayno90

Haha labelling him a racist, basically seems like people can't criticize other nationalities without being called that.

In fairness, you can understand why some Irish people are frustrated as they might be unemployed and see other nationalities in jobs while they are on the job, normal in a recession.

Better to buy from Dunnes than Tesco anyday, support Irish suppliers and producers!

Mimojo

punkindrublic wrote: »

yeah I understand though I don't think it's because of the recession because I had friends working there years ago when the economy was good and they were all depressed too, they just said that anyone who worked stocking shelves, tills, etc was treated like they were less of a person by people who were higher up in there. Even one of the guys who worked the night shift hated it because of the way he got treated and I always the night shift wouldn't be bad! Tescos staff do seem a little happier but I stopped shopping in there because they always forget to take the security tags off things every single time I buy something, then the alarms go off and everyone looks at me like I'm a thief! Ack.

Sounds like Dunnes is a bad place to work, with or without a recession! I recently started work in a shop (not Dunnes!) in an office position and see first hand how checkout/shop floor staff are treated. Regardless of nationality it is shocking the s~~~e they have to put up with, managers etc treat them like they are nothing. I always though, same as you, that Tesco staff seemed a bit happier in their jobs, and I still do.

On the Irish products angle, even Aldi now are promoting themselves as selling a majority of "Irish" products, hard to tell who is promoting Irish and what is simply "Irish"washing!

Mrs OBumble

I wonder if Dunnes know exactly how that slogan makes foreigner people who are shopping in their stores feel. Remembering the proportion of foreign nationals living in some cities, I'm surprised that they want to alienate this many people.

Personally, every time I hear it over the PA, I think to myself: "Yup, overpriced, disorganised, and really big on being mean to folks at the bottom of the pecking order - you're Irish alright."

coco0981

boozelerooze wrote: »

This is wholly untrue - where did you get your info from there?!! Bit of a sweeping statement imo

I can tell you that this is completely true. I work in the trade and its happening with musgraves the whole time (don't relayy blame them tbh though in some ways)

Celly Smunt

shayno90 wrote: »

Haha labelling him a racist, basically seems like people can't criticize other nationalities without being called that.

In fairness, you can understand why some Irish people are frustrated as they might be unemployed and see other nationalities in jobs while they are on the job, normal in a recession.

Better to buy from Dunnes than Tesco anyday, support Irish suppliers and producers!

well when you criticise or label a whole race or nation,i suppose you are being racist to be honest

Nermal

horse10 wrote: »

call me racist

you're a racist

K-9

Every country should follow this policy. Pity it couldn't be back dated to say, about the early 1800's on.

El_Drago

shayno90 wrote: »

Haha labelling him a racist, basically seems like people can't criticize other nationalities without being called that.

In fairness, you can understand why some Irish people are frustrated as they might be unemployed and see other nationalities in jobs while they are on the job, normal in a recession.

Better to buy from Dunnes than Tesco anyday, support Irish suppliers and producers!

Nope, I can't understand Irish people being fustrated by "foreigners taking all the jobs". There are jobs out there and if you bother spending long enough looking for one you'll find one,simple.Gone are the days where working in McDonalds was a "I'll never do that".Beggars can't be choosers in the current climate.

Amalgam

Berty wrote: »

Dunnes Stores - because we're Irish is a slogan for YOU to support Dunnes Stores because they BUY FROM IRISH COMPANIES and unlike Tesco they do not buy their stuff from the UK(incl Northern Ireland) and pass it off as Irish.

Musgrave(Centra, Daybreak, Supervalu) actually have been buying their stuff from the UK and screwing over Irish agents. Superquinn also stubbed their toes by having signs up saying something like "Why head to Northern Ireland, support you own" and then they bought their goods in Northern wholesalers.

So, YOU ARE asked to support an Irish employer, not an employer who employs Irish.

PURE UTTER RACISM. FAR TOO MUCH OF IT AROUND. :mad:

Reminds me of a funny story from an English guy I was working with in 2005. He said to me
"Im sick of all these foreigners coming here taking all the jobs"
"Where are you from again?"
"Yeah but thats different its only Ireland/England"

In 20 years you could have the Polish and others complaining about these foreigners coming from the US looking for work when their economy goes bang.

Buy from Dunnes and support Irish business where you can.

Dunnes play off their (dwindling) Irish suppliers like Mike Vicks manages dogs.. Enjoy your shirts from Macau and UAE.. Flip Flops from a state in the Pacific Rim you have to Google..

Companies 'handling' Dunnes stock employ foreign labour because they're 'easier to manage'. There's descrimination there, but it is as much against the local population.

I shop at Tesco, at least you know where you're at, there's no attempt at wrapping the flag around themselves with misleading jingoistic ****e.

Lando Griffin

Racist. Always check your receipt before you leave the shop. I got charged €79.00 for some chops instead of €7.90, irish person served me, and on doubt originna pricing done by irish manager.

Amalgam

Lando Griffin wrote: »

Racist. Always check your receipt before you leave the shop. I got charged €79.00 for some chops instead of €7.90, irish person served me, and on doubt originna pricing done by irish manager.

Is that directed at myself? Such an easy word to trot out and use, but a very difficult one to defend against..

K-9

Amalgam wrote: »

Dunnes play off their (dwindling) Irish suppliers like Mike Vicks manages dogs.. Enjoy your shirts from Macau and UAE.. Flip Flops from a state in the Pacific Rim you have to Google..

Companies 'handling' Dunnes stock employ foreign labour because they're 'easier to manage'. There's descrimination there, but it is as much against the local population.

I shop at Tesco, at least you know where you're at, there's no attempt at wrapping the flag around themselves with misleading jingoistic ****e.

The Tesco buy me, I'm Irish flags are funny though, but if people think Dunnes wouldn't love to be in Tescos position, they are deluded. Dunnes are just out to make a profit and this thread is proof of it.

They are just using a slogan to appeal to their market strength and position. The OP has taken the slogan a bit too seriously seriously and is applying it literally.

I'm now thinking of the Dunnes strike during the eighties. That strike would never have happened if we followed through and only bought Irish.

Lando Griffin

Amalgam wrote: »

Is that directed at myself? Such an easy word to trot out and use, but a very difficult one to defend against..

Apologies, directed at OP.

Amalgam

Lando Griffin wrote: »

Apologies, directed at OP.

Apology accepted.

testicle

Nermal wrote: »

you're a racist

No, you're a racist!

dermothickey

One vote here for not liking the slogan, sounds a bit stupid really. We got to also look at the fact that Tesco sell Irish products all over the world and up to 2008 it was a well-known fact that Tesco stocked more Irish products than Dunnes. " The only Difference is they didn't advertise it":pac:

It was an agreement put in place when they bought up Quinnsworth off ould Maurice Pratt if anyone remembers him. I'm not sure if that is still true since they introduced a lot of the extra brands from the North recently.

2manyconditions

boozelerooze wrote: »

From my current experience people working on tills have it tough - serious staff cut backs in all companies means that checkout staff are serious overworked and underpaid. They are getting shifts that are all over the place, and expected to do more and more for the same amount of money. Suppose it is just the way things are going right now, but from experience I think people who work on checkouts have a lot of deal with now, and people dont really ack that

+1


That and as bad as some customers were during the boom, I'd say staff are getting alot more hassel from customers now regarding prices, taking peoples crap when they have a sh, it day - people do that all the time.

coco0981

dermothickey wrote: »

One vote here for not liking the slogan, sounds a bit stupid really. We got to also look at the fact that Tesco sell Irish products all over the world and up to 2008 it was a well-known fact that Tesco stocked more Irish products than Dunnes. " The only Difference is they didn't advertise it":pac:

It was an agreement put in place when they bought up Quinnsworth off ould Maurice Pratt if anyone remembers him. I'm not sure if that is still true since they introduced a lot of the extra brands from the North recently.

What irish products do tesco sell all over the world??

munstergirl

Guinness
Baileys

DublinWriter

horse10 wrote: »

would allways pick a irish worker if i was getting work done as i feel my moneys going bck into the economy and not some other countrys ,call me racist but i think i,m patriotic

Yes of course all the money they earn is sent back directly to Poland and they don't pay any money to Irish speculative middle-class landlords or buy any food here or pay any tax to the Irish Government.

We should adopt the economic isolationist policies of Hitler and Pol Pot because they were so successful, weren't they?

We are the nation that invented wholesale economic migrancy. It's the same as the BNP complaining about immigration from Pakistan when the British nation raped the national resources of India for 200 years.

In my personal experience, the Irish people who complain most about immigration are those who are themselves in receipt of generous welfare handouts.

coco0981

munstergirl wrote: »

Guinness
Baileys

I'd imagine dunnes also sell irish products in their stores outside ireland

Amalgam

DublinWriter wrote: »

Yes of course all the money they earn is sent back directly to Poland and they don't pay any money to Irish speculative middle-class landlords or buy any food here or pay any tax to the Irish Government.

We should adopt the economic isolationist policies of Hitler and Pol Pot because they were so successful, weren't they?

We are the nation that invented wholesale economic migrancy. It's the same as the BNP complaining about immigration from Pakistan when the British nation raped the national resources of India for 200 years.

In my personal experience, the Irish people who complain most about immigration are those who are themselves in receipt of generous welfare handouts.

Oh give over would you, can a discussion not take place on a middle ground, why always Hitler and Pol Pot, it's a crap way of coming back at someone and just slams any discussion into the ground.

gordongekko

Wait till Dunnes announce lay offs in the next few weeks and then we will see some more rubbish posted on this thread

Tchaikovsky

JustMary wrote: »

I wonder if Dunnes know exactly how that slogan makes foreigner people who are shopping in their stores feel. Remembering the proportion of foreign nationals living in some cities, I'm surprised that they want to alienate this many people.

I know, I mean you wouldn't want these people to feel like they were in a foreign country or whatever.
I personally feel that the Polish food shops alienate me!

Magenta

horse10 wrote: »

Dunnes stores slogan is because we,re irish and i was in my local dunnes and the girls on the tills weren,t irish so its a bit of false advertisement as i,m all for supporting irish companies and employees and would allways pick a irish worker if i was getting work done as i feel my moneys going bck into the economy and not some other countrys ,call me racist but i think i,m patriotic

And have Irish people never gone abroad looking for work?

Berty

Magenta wrote: »

And have Irish people never gone abroad looking for work?

The Aul' Wild Geese and some are STILL Illegal Immigrants in certain countries.

ceolgodeo

LaughOrDie wrote: »

I think they actually train the managers to ensure that the staff feel unappreciated. Some of the assistant managers were sound enough, but store and area managers always seemed to be up their own A and rude to floor staff.

Just has to be said that is a patheic, stereotypical and completly unture generalisation of 'store and area mangers'. I've have been a staff member in Dunnes for many years and have only ever come accross genuine,honest hard working store and area mangers who are very down to earth and decent people,whom have always treated me with profound respect. Just beacause you may have problems with those in authority gives you no right to make such uninformed, false comments.

dermothickey

Ive gone in around the back doors of Dunnes for a very long time. Had to wait for four or five hours many a day just to get them to sign off on an order. Some stores are hard to deal with and others not so much. Some of them do have terrible communication skills. And have seen many people walk out the back door, shaking their heads, refusing to merchandise in Dunnes because of them. Often had Dunnes girls beside me getting lectured in an aggressive manner by the dunnes managers too. Some of them are plain bullies and it's quite sad as there on great money and shouldn't have a need to bully people.

It all does boil down to the individual, some have never opened a book on leadership or supervisory management or management in general. It's very clear by their communication methods. Then some others of them are the soundest people you could come across.

In some stores there is a hush when the manager walks on to the shop floor. It's easy to understand their frustration, all different companies with different requests of where they want their stock positioned etc, but in fairness that's the job, and a little more respect in SOME stores would be a beautiful thing.

Berty

ceolgodeo wrote: »

Just has to be said that is a patheic, stereotypical and completly unture generalisation of 'store and area mangers'. I've have been a staff member in Dunnes for many years and have only ever come accross genuine,honest hard working store and area mangers who are very down to earth and decent people,whom have always treated me with profound respect. Just beacause you may have problems with those in authority gives you no right to make such uninformed, false comments.

I guess it depends on which side of the grass you are looking at it from.

I was looking at Dunnes Managers from a Sales Reps position and they were, bar ONE Manager, all COMPLETE B*STARDS! The amount of disrespect they would show Sales Reps and Merchandisers is incredible. When I left FMCG and moved into another field I was soo glad.

One even remembed my face when I was in his store SHOPPING but I was stupidly talking on the phone(how dare I?), as a CUSTOMER, and he took the phone out of my hand and hung up on it and told me "You know that I do not allow you to speak on MY shop floor on your phone".

dermothickey

I believe you there berty there a tough bunch when your going in the back door of a friday evening before christmas(seems to be their narkiest time)

horse10

typical i air my opinion and get compared to the bnp you can,t sat anything these days without being called a racist by the pc brigade

DublinWriter wrote: »

Yes of course all the money they earn is sent back directly to Poland and they don't pay any money to Irish speculative middle-class landlords or buy any food here or pay any tax to the Irish Government.

We should adopt the economic isolationist policies of Hitler and Pol Pot because they were so successful, weren't they?

We are the nation that invented wholesale economic migrancy. It's the same as the BNP complaining about immigration from Pakistan when the British nation raped the national resources of India for 200 years.

In my personal experience, the Irish people who complain most about immigration are those who are themselves in receipt of generous welfare handouts.

Corruptedmorals

If you knew what's it's like to work there in a recession you wouldn't blame staff for not looking chirpy. Also really the slogan relates to the company itself and not staff.

ButtercupTheCow

Corruptedmorals wrote: »

The entire employer ethic is bad from the top down. They are just not nice employers full stop. Nothign wrong with breaks lunches general rights or holidays though. The owners, head office, regional managers- absolutely NO regard for staff whatsoever. I have worked there since 2007 and the difference the recession made is unbelievable. Drapery in my store is operating on less than half the staff. But since the prices were slashed it's much busier than what it was then. It's a nightmare and we're killing ourselves trying to clear queues get everything done and get out of the place, frequently getting out at the maximum time- an hour and a half after the store's closed. Voluntary redundancy meant a good few who get the top rate are gone. They've stopped hiring part-timers because they're not flexi enough, and because we only do lates we're under immense pressure to be available 5 days a week for the busiest days and to work the fullest weekend shifts. What they're doing now is offering 3 month temp contracts- the staff turnover is unbelievable. All of these people have to fully inducted and till trained, but necause they're new existing staff have to carry more workload and by the time they have a grasp on things..they're gone. Hours are generally cut January-April. Most people who get 37.5 hours can be cut to 15 hours- and this does happen. It also means that I have been alone for 2/3 horus on Sundays and bank holidays to man a massive tillbank which caters for ladieswear/footwear/hosiery/accessories and lingerie. There used to be a good atmosphere and there is still great nights out but it all means that yes people do go around miserbale but I wouldn't blame them!

You should really be careful about what you post. It's not unheard of for companies to Google themselves (many show up to defend themselves on this very site) and since your location is in your profile it won't be too hard for Dunnes to work out who you are.

Tchaikovsky

ButtercupTheCow wrote: »

You should really be careful about what you post. It's not unheard of for companies to Google themselves (many show up to defend themselves on this very site) and since your location is in your profile it won't be too hard for Dunnes to work out who you are.

Dunnes would make the Stasi look like Keystone Cops.. sure they have files on everyone! And they're looking at you right now.

dermothickey

They'd do well to listen in on these conversations, they might educate themselves on what others think and feel about them.