M8 abbeyleix Toll, ..avoid..

pa990

when travelling north bound on the M8, what exit should be taken to avoid the new toll at abbeyleix ?

freighter

pa990 wrote: »

when travelling north bound on the M8, what exit should be taken to avoid the new toll at abbeyleix ?

Urlingford/johnstown

Run_to_da_hills

If everyone did this the NRA would get no funding.

corktina

why would they want to? on a return journey from the capital to Dublin:cool: what would the total toll be? €10 or so? thats a drop in the ocean surely compared to the total spend of your day/weekend out in the Smoke....

Jomcc

Based on traffic in Abbeyleix this evening, many people are thinking the same way. For €1.80, I'd go thry the toll. Cost me 3:20 in a jeep and I will think twice about going thru toll next time. 3.20 too expensive in my opinion.

staker

Was it not €3.40 no?
If not it's cheaper than the Fermoy toll

Run_to_da_hills

Give it a few months and we will see an 80kph limit, round abouts and more traffic lights on the old road. :mad:

whippet

as some one who often tips on down to cork on a friday evening for the weekend €1.80 is a bargain not to be caught in those bottle necks. Leaving work at half five and then ordering a pint in kinsale at 8 o'clock does sound worth the toll.

Mind you I have been paying the toll on the M50 twice a day for the last 10 years so I'm well used to it. Probably brainwashed after having to queue up at a bottle neck to pay it before the freeflow system !!

Jomcc

staker wrote: »

Was it not €3.40 no?
If not it's cheaper than the Fermoy toll

0.90, 3.20, 3.50 and 5.70 are the rates.

Jomcc

whippet wrote: »

as some one who often tips on down to cork on a friday evening for the weekend €1.80 is a bargain not to be caught in those bottle necks. Leaving work at half five and then ordering a pint in kinsale at 8 o'clock does sound worth the toll.

I've no problem paying toll for a journey.......hate paying it to go from Portlaoise to Rathdowney twice a day, 5 days a week tho. Would never dream of trying to dodge any of the other tolls.

Another problem that I have with toll plaza's here is that they do not give change..........and on principle I certainly wouldn't put in 2.00 even if toll was 1.99.

KamiKazi

Here's my procedure for toll booths that don't have a bike lane:

Engine off.
Sidestand down.
Off the bike.
Gloves off.
Helmet off.
Music off.
Wallet out.
Change counted.
Pay toll.
Wallet back in.
Music on.
Helmet and gloves back on.
Back on the bike, and away

They'll eventually get the message.

MidlandsM

pa990 wrote: »

when travelling north bound on the M8, what exit should be taken to avoid the new toll at abbeyleix ?

Come off the M8 @ Exit 3 , then head for Ballacolla>Abbeyliex>Portlaoise

freighter wrote: »

Urlingford/johnstown

close, but no cigar.:D;)

Run_to_da_hills

KamiKazi wrote: »

Here's my procedure for toll booths that don't have a bike lane:

Engine off.
Sidestand down.
Off the bike.
Gloves off.
Helmet off.
Music off.
Wallet out.
Change counted.
Pay toll.
Wallet back in.
Music on.
Helmet and gloves back on.
Back on the bike, and away

They'll eventually get the message.

You missed one:
Drop your change on the tarmac and then spend 5 minutes looking for it.

drunkmonkey

Jomcc wrote: »

and on principle I certainly wouldn't put in 2.00 even if toll was 1.99.

Just open your door and pick up some change off the ground, you'd be surprised how many people miss the bucket and won't stop to pick it up because there's a car behind them.

Who knows you might even make a profit going through;)

Run_to_da_hills

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Just open your door and pick up some change off the ground, you'd be surprised how many people miss the bucket and won't stop to pick it up because there's a car behind them.

Who knows you might even make a profit going through;)

I got cautioned by your one in the booth from doing this on the old Westlink plasza from a motorbike.

KamiKazi

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I got cautioned by your one in the booth from doing this on the old Westlink plasza from a motorbike.

What's she gonna do, tell you to turn around and fvck off? lol

AugustusMinimus

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Give it a few months and we will see an 80kph limit, round abouts and more traffic lights on the old road. :mad:

Is it not 80kph now considering the old road has been automatically redesignated as the R639 which as a regional road carries a 80kph speed limit automatically.

I was always under the assumption that Laois County Council will have to put through bye laws to raise the limits back to 100kph afterwards.


As with the R639 around Fermoy and Rathcormack, expect squad cars everywhere doing speed checks. As long as I've been driving the Fermoy bypass, I still haven't seen a squad car doing speed checks on it.

MidlandsM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I got cautioned by your one in the booth from doing this on the old Westlink plasza from a motorbike.

Finders Keepers - !!:)

drunkmonkey

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I got cautioned by your one in the booth from doing this on the old Westlink plasza from a motorbike.

Brilliant:D

You'd as much right to it as the NRA! It's no man's Money!

pa990

most of my cork/dublin/cork journeys are off peak..
I've never really had problems with abbeyleix

I don't think that the toll is worth the few minutes it will save me.

I just wanted to be sure of which exit to take on my next journey, so i don't accidentally get stung with the toll.

A trip from dub airport to cork, will now cost 5.70 each way in toll's alone i reckon..

Thats 11.40 on a return trip

Run_to_da_hills

MidlandsM wrote: »

Finders Keepers - !!:)

Not what she said, told her to fcuk off and kept at it.

nice_guy80

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Give it a few months and we will see an 80kph limit, round abouts and more traffic lights on the old road. :mad:

yeah, they've done that on the old N4. the backstards.
safety reasons, me arse

Berty

AugustusMinimus wrote: »

Is it not 80kph now considering the old road has been automatically redesignated as the R639 which as a regional road carries a 80kph speed limit automatically.

I was always under the assumption that Laois County Council will have to put through bye laws to raise the limits back to 100kph afterwards.


As with the R639 around Fermoy and Rathcormack, expect squad cars everywhere doing speed checks. As long as I've been driving the Fermoy bypass, I still haven't seen a squad car doing speed checks on it.

Try West Cork. Many R roads are 100kph.

Ali Babba

One little thin though..............WE'VE ALREADY PAID FOR THESE TOLL ROADS OVER AND OVER WITH OUR ROAD TAXES!!! Why are we so tolerant of being screwed over and over with taxes?????

Berty

Ali Babba wrote: »

One little thin though..............WE'VE ALREADY PAID FOR THESE TOLL ROADS OVER AND OVER WITH OUR ROAD TAXES!!! Why are we so tolerant of being screwed over and over with taxes?????

Who paid for these roads? Not us. The roads are a PPP using EU Money and Private investment otherwise they would never have been built.

This is the only way for the private investor to recoup their money. Try the Autoroutes in France. Nearly all of them are Tolled.

SomeGuyCalledMi

KamiKazi wrote: »

Here's my procedure for toll booths that don't have a bike lane:

Engine off.
Sidestand down.
Off the bike.
Gloves off.
Helmet off.
Music off.
Wallet out.
Change counted.
Pay toll.
Wallet back in.
Music on.
Helmet and gloves back on.
Back on the bike, and away

They'll eventually get the message.

And dont forget to jump the queue. You do own the road after all. :pac:

testicle

pa990 wrote: »

most of my cork/dublin/cork journeys are off peak..
I've never really had problems with abbeyleix

I don't think that the toll is worth the few minutes it will save me.

I just wanted to be sure of which exit to take on my next journey, so i don't accidentally get stung with the toll.

A trip from dub airport to cork, will now cost 5.70 each way in toll's alone i reckon..

Thats 11.40 on a return trip

You must have done Honours Maths in the Leaving!

glanman

Jomcc wrote: »

Based on traffic in Abbeyleix this evening, many people are thinking the same way. For €1.80, I'd go thry the toll. Cost me 3:20 in a jeep and I will think twice about going thru toll next time. 3.20 too expensive in my opinion.

does your jeep fit under the automatic toll? My pajero fits under the 2m barrier on the Cork one so can pay the 1.90... Hope to do the same on this toll too:)

pa990

testicle wrote: »

You must have done Honours Maths in the Leaving!

I didn't want to say that i would cost x amount.. Just in case i got one of the toll charges wrong..
God knows, some people are quick to jump in and point out any inaccuracey.

Btw. Well done on your observations of my math skills.

Berty

pa990 wrote: »

I didn't want to say that i would cost x amount.. Just in case i got one of the toll charges wrong..
God knows, some people are quick to jump in and point out any inaccuracey.

Btw. Well done on your observations of my math skills.

You have spelt that wrong. It's inaccuracy.

pa990

Berty wrote: »

You have spelt that wrong. It's inaccuracy.

LOL

Anan1

KamiKazi wrote: »

Here's my procedure for toll booths that don't have a bike lane:

Engine off.
Sidestand down.
Off the bike.
Gloves off.
Helmet off.
Music off.
Wallet out.
Change counted.
Pay toll.
Wallet back in.
Music on.
Helmet and gloves back on.
Back on the bike, and away

They'll eventually get the message.

Why not tape the coins to the tank before you leave home?;)

corktina

its a BIKE he has , not a TANK...gawd knows what the Toll would be on a Tank....

Rovi

corktina wrote: »

its a BIKE he has , not a TANK...gawd knows what the Toll would be on a Tank....

€0.00 perhaps?

L1011

AugustusMinimus wrote: »

Is it not 80kph now considering the old road has been automatically redesignated as the R639 which as a regional road carries a 80kph speed limit automatically.

A lot of it is now actually the N77, so is still 100km/h by default.

Lex Luthor

Can anyone tell me what the cost of this new toll is for a car with an eazypass tag in the car? Is the price different at other times of the day/week?

Also, what kind of times are they quoting that you save by taking the new road to Cork over the old road?

I am now down to 1hr58 from my gaf in Naas to the Dunkettle roundabout before this section was built and thats sitting on the limit all the way using cruise control. I am hearing something like 40min savings but I'm guessing this is during peak times.

My journey at the moment is 216km but it looks like the new motorway adds about 15-20km to my journey bringing it up to 230/235km. Sitting at roughly 125km/h with slowing down for 2 toll booths, I'd say it will only knock 10-15mins off my journey...next trip will tell

Amtmann

Lex Luthor wrote: »

Can anyone tell me what the cost of this new toll is for a car with an eazypass tag in the car? Is the price different at other times of the day/week?

Also, what kind of times are they quoting that you save by taking the new road to Cork over the old road?

I am now down to 1hr58 from my gaf in Naas to the Dunkettle roundabout before this section was built and thats sitting on the limit all the way using cruise control. I am hearing something like 40min savings but I'm guessing this is during peak times.

My journey at the moment is 216km but it looks like the new motorway adds about 15-20km to my journey bringing it up to 230/235km. Sitting at roughly 125km/h with slowing down for 2 toll booths, I'd say it will only knock 10-15mins off my journey...next trip will tell

At the risk of having people jump down my throat here, it amazes me why anyone would bother dodging that toll. Taking the new section and paying the toll will save you about four or five minutes assuming you don't get held up on the old road, potentially much more if you do. But it's not all about the time-saving. Statistically you are anywhere between 500 and 1000% safer when you drive on a motorway. That alone is worth the toll. That, and the reliability of knowing you won't get held up. The old road is windy and has no hard shoulder in places. Someone was killed on it three weeks ago around Durrow. How many people have died on the M8 since the new sections started to open in 2008? No one.
For a car the toll at Portlaoise is 1.80 with or without a tag. With an Easy Trip tag the M50 is just 2 euro.

bijapos

KamiKazi wrote: »

Here's my procedure for toll booths that don't have a bike lane:

Engine off.
Sidestand down.
Off the bike.
Gloves off.
Helmet off.
Music off.
Wallet out.
Change counted.
Pay toll.
Wallet back in.
Look back at poor pr!ck in the car behind who has been waiting a couple of minutes while you go through your little tantrum/demonstration
Music on.
Helmet and gloves back on.
Wave goodbye to the person in the toll booth who could not give a flying feck about your little routine, who is only trying to make a wage and has no influence on NRA policies, and thus on whom you have just wasted your tantrum/demonstration.
Back on the bike, and away


They'll eventually get the message.

FFS man grow up. That sh!te only delays the rest of us, a bit like the twats who stop to have a rant at the person in the booth that the tolls are too high. If you have an issue then use this forum, or bikers.ie or facebook or something else to get a case going against the NRA, but STOP DELAYING THE REST OF US!!!!!!



(and yes I kinow this is 4 months after the OP)

shedweller

You're right, we should just lie down and shut up. We should be happy to be able to drive on a safe road. Never mind paying nearly 1000 euro per year to use the m50. Think of the time saved!!:rolleyes: I love that statement.
I wouldn't object to the tolls as much if there was an alternative route that was designed to be as awkward as possible.
If we lie down and quietly accept the existing tolls then we'll get shafted with loads more in the future. Do you want that? I certainly dont. All my earnings are flying out the door as it is.
More tolls will result in less spending elsewhere. Scrap the tolls and the motor tax. Replace it with a suitable fuel levy so we ALL pay to use ALL the roads.

Is Boards pro-toll? Certainly looks that way to me.

Amtmann

bijapos wrote: »

(and yes I kinow this is 4 months after the OP)

:eek: Oops - I'd no idea I'd just bumped a zombie thread. *Backs slowly out of the forum*

heebusjeebus

I find that I'm exhaused at the end of the Dublin - Cork trip when I stay on the motorway. When I take the detour down the old road to Urlingford/Johnstown I find that the change in road "wakes" me up somewhat.
I don't find it ads much to the duration of the journey either.

I don't do it to save money, I do it out of boredom.

brownej

bijapos wrote: »

FFS man grow up. That sh!te only delays the rest of us, a bit like the twats who stop to have a rant at the person in the booth that the tolls are too high. If you have an issue then use this forum, or bikers.ie or facebook or something else to get a case going against the NRA, but STOP DELAYING THE REST OF US!!!!!!


(and yes I kinow this is 4 months after the OP)

People being slow at the booth are really annoying. Thats why I use a tag and go through the free flow lane.

Perhaps you might like to do the same.
www.tagcompare.ie

KamiKazi

bijapos wrote: »

FFS man grow up. That sh!te only delays the rest of us, a bit like the twats who stop to have a rant at the person in the booth that the tolls are too high. If you have an issue then use this forum, or bikers.ie or facebook or something else to get a case going against the NRA, but STOP DELAYING THE REST OF US!!!!!!



(and yes I kinow this is 4 months after the OP)

I'll be sure to turn around and give you a wave, thanks for the tip

seriouslywhat

KamiKazi wrote: »

I'll be sure to turn around and give you a wave, thanks for the tip

Whats your problem?! What are ya 5 years old? Do you really think the guys taking a few bob from ya care if you take an hour or 2 seconds. No!! They dont. Sure its probably better for them if you take an hour as they only have to do one transaction. For christ sake grow the hell up, put your money in the basket yolk and move on so the rest of us dont have to be backed up because of your selfishness!!! :mad::mad::mad:
If you dont like paying the toll protest some other way that doesnt involve innocent people who just want to get on with their day.

God it reminds me of the stupid taxi ****** that held up the traffic last year to prove some point or other. I had to get home to the wife and kids and instead got caught behind these selfish selfish people. Theres things in this world I dont like but I dont involve other people in my protest!

GROW UP.

Rant over.

KamiKazi

Seriously.

What?

Esel

Furet wrote: »

:eek: Oops - I'd no idea I'd just bumped a zombie thread. *Backs slowly out of the forum*

Sure, you didn't know..... ;)How did you find the thread then?

Amtmann

esel wrote: »

Sure, you didn't know..... ;)How did you find the thread then?

By looking at a user's previous posts. A post in this thread was his second last post, so, without looking at the dates, I assumed it was a recent post.

bijapos

shedweller wrote: »

You're right, we should just lie down and shut up. We should be happy to be able to drive on a safe road. Never mind paying nearly 1000 euro per year to use the m50. Think of the time saved!!:rolleyes: I love that statement.
I wouldn't object to the tolls as much if there was an alternative route that was designed to be as awkward as possible.
If we lie down and quietly accept the existing tolls then we'll get shafted with loads more in the future. Do you want that? I certainly dont. All my earnings are flying out the door as it is.
More tolls will result in less spending elsewhere. Scrap the tolls and the motor tax. Replace it with a suitable fuel levy so we ALL pay to use ALL the roads.

Is Boards pro-toll? Certainly looks that way to me.

I agree with a lot of what you are saying but taking it out on another road user helps nobody. The biker above got something off his chest but it won't change anything. If you have an issue contact the people at the top, not those on the ground or the others who are using the toll.

ShadowHearth

It costs me to get from my house to dublin airport about 6eu. I dont drive there too often so i really dont mind. As its pure motorway: easy and fast.

But i do understand local people who are forced to yse tolled roads everyday to get to work. Arent there some monthly payment deal or something?

PAULWATSON

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Give it a few months and we will see an 80kph limit, round abouts and more traffic lights on the old road. :mad:

You got that right. Reminds me of when they started to charge for parking at dart stations. People parked outside on the road for years, then suddenly when the charges are introduced, well for "safety reasons" double yellow lines are installed for miles around.

"you havin' a laff mate".

PAULWATSON

KamiKazi wrote: »

Here's my procedure for toll booths that don't have a bike lane:

Engine off.
Sidestand down.
Off the bike.
Gloves off.
Helmet off.
Music off.
Wallet out.
Change counted.
Pay toll.
Wallet back in.
Music on.
Helmet and gloves back on.
Back on the bike, and away

They'll eventually get the message.

Here's my procedure, take bike up to lorry booth, normally on the far left, drive around barrier and proceed.