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X-Men: First Class *spoilers from post 215*

  • 28-05-2010 10:31am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,029 ✭✭✭✭


    Scottish actor James McAvoy (Wanted, Atonement) is pairing up with British director Matthew Vaughn (Layer Cake, Kick-Ass) for the next iteration in the X-Men franchise for Twentieth Century Fox. McAvoy has closed his deal to star as Charles Xavier in X-Men: First Class, the film that chronicles the younger years of Xavier and Erik Lensherr before they became archenemies Professor X (Patrick Stewart) and Magneto (Ian McKellan).
    X-Men: First Class centers on the two young men when they first discovered their powers. At first the two are the closest of friends, working together to stop a huge global threat, but Xavier and Lensherr then become enemies, leading to an eternal war between Magneto’s Brotherhood and Professor X’s X-Men.
    Fox is expected to announce the actor who will play Lensherr shortly. No word yet on whether Hugh Jackman will reprise his role as Wolverine. Bryan Singer, director of both the original X-Men and its sequel X2 will produce along with Lauren Shuler Donner and Simon Kinberg. Production is set to begin this summer in London. Fox has set June 3, 2011 for its release.

    I wonder will James shave his head :p now who to play Magneto maybe Jim Sturgess or Jonathan Reys Meyers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,398 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    I wonder will James shave his head :p now who to play Magneto maybe Jim Sturgess or Jonathan Reys Meyers


    Did they change the concept of this? I had read that it would feature the early days of Xaviers school and younger versions of Cyclops, Storm etc.

    Wouldn't have too high expectations for this and can't really picture McAvoy playing Xavier (expect a quick scene at the end of a bald Xavier after he uses his power to its limits to defeat the bad guy resulting in his hair loss). No doubt Wolverine will show up, he shows up in almost everything Marvel do. I am actually surprised there has been no mention of him for the Avengers film.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭paddyismaddy


    vaughan did well with kick ass it will be interesting to see what he does here singer is still on board as a producer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Turtyturd wrote: »
    Did they change the concept of this? I had read that it would feature the early days of Xaviers school and younger versions of Cyclops, Storm etc.

    Wouldn't have too high expectations for this and can't really picture McAvoy playing Xavier (expect a quick scene at the end of a bald Xavier after he uses his power to its limits to defeat the bad guy resulting in his hair loss). No doubt Wolverine will show up, he shows up in almost everything Marvel do. I am actually surprised there has been no mention of him for the Avengers film.

    Aside from the three X-Men movies and Wolverine, he hasnt been in any other Marvel movie as yet :confused: Or do you mean comic wise?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Mr. K


    krudler wrote: »
    Or do you mean comic wise?

    He probably does, Wolverine's is almost everywhere in the comics!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,019 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    I really wish they'd lay off with the spin-offs to this franchise. For me, some of appeal of X-Men was always the colourful cast of characters, origin stories alas lose some a lot of this. They should definitely just make an X-Men 4, with a competent director (i.e. someone who isn't Brett 'Mediocrity' Ratner) that can fix the damage done by the disgraceful conclusion to the trilogy. Matthew Vaughn is a promising choice (I don't fawn over Kick-Ass the same way other do, but it was very well directed on occasion and Stardust is just great) but Wolverine and X-3 have left sour tastes in my mouth.

    On the plus side, hopefully they've done away with that horrible CGI de-aging process!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭Ridley


    Hrn. That quote's first sentence raised my hopes before the second quickly dashed them. :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    McAvoy seems awfully young, especially since they used Stewart as Professor X in Wolverine.

    Even more nutty is the news that Aaron Johnson is supposedly earmarked to be Cyclops, you would expect there to be a considerable age difference between Cyclops and Xavier yet Johnson and McAvoy arguably look like they are the same age.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 15,001 ✭✭✭✭Pepe LeFrits


    Does this film take place in the same 'universe' as the other films? The ages of the different characters vary widely depending on the interpretation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    Does this film take place in the same 'universe' as the other films? The ages of the different characters vary widely depending on the interpretation.


    From what I can gather it is based on the comic run of the same name.

    If the film adaptation follows the same line of thinking as the comic, then it will be in the same Marvel universe as the 3 X-men films, and will most likely finish with
    Professor X dispatching Cyclops and Storm to pick up Wolverine and Rogue
    at the start of the first X-Men film.

    What would be interesting though, is if they decided to bring it into the same universe as the Avengers/Thor/Iron Man/Captain America films, which looks to be a take on the Ultimate Universe. If it goes that way,
    then we have Magneto putting Prof X in a wheelchair after impaling him with a metal spike in the savage land.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Savage Land - dinosaurs :)

    Can't see it happening TBH. Arent the X-men movie franchise and the Avengers franchise owned by different companies? That would make sharing continuity difficult at best.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,029 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Ex-Bond girl Rosamund Pike is in the running to play Emma Frost in X-Men: First Class, according to Forces Of Geek.

    The British actress, whose credits include Pride & Prejudice and An Education, "has tested and very possibly [been] cast" in Matthew Vaughn's prequel to the X-Men series.

    Pike was recently spotted at X-Men casting director Lucinda Syson's office with an Emma Frost comic book. The character first appeared in an issue of Marvel's Uncanny X-Men in 1980 and is a mutant telepath known for her revealing white outfit.

    Tahyna Tozzi appeared as Frost in last year's X-Men Origins: Wolverine.

    James McAvoy is confirmed to star in X-Men: First Class as a young Charles Xavier, while Michael Fassbender, Aaron Johnson and Frank Dillane have been rumoured for the superhero project.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,019 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    JP Liz, I've said this to you before but please please please give the source of the articles you copy and paste. Actually, preferably just give a link / some personal opinion that people can click if they want to find out more info. It's totally unfair on the journalists who wrote the article in the first place, as you're effectively passing off the article as your own. I'll have to start deleting the posts if you don't start crediting those who deserve it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,090 ✭✭✭jill_valentine


    This sounds like they're borrowing a little from the IMHO sorely underrated Generation X strand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 216 ✭✭Smokin_Aces


    Michael Fassbender is being linked to the role of Magneto. Seems like an interesting choice. Could very well do the job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Im thinking there is very little Michael Fassbender can't do right now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,029 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2010/06/17/x-men-first-class/
    James McAvoy has found his nemesis. Twentieth Century Fox is in negotiations with German-Irish actor Michael Fassbender for the role of Erik Lensherr, the man who becomes Magneto in the X-Men origin story X-Men: First Class.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    I heard that a week or two back, he apparently passed on the role.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,169 ✭✭✭JohnnyRyan99


    Im looking forward to this.. Great direction to take the X-Men films in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,029 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/news/a229370/benjamin-walker-nabs-x-men-beast-role.html

    Benjamin Walker has been offered the role of Beast in X-Men: First Class, according to Showbiz 411.
    Walker, the star of New York stage show Bloody Bloody Andrew Jackson, is circling the role of Henry Philip McCoy, a scientist who possesses superhuman strength and a blue, cat-like appearance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Im looking forward to this.. Great direction to take the X-Men films in.

    Because everybody loves a prequel? Even moreso when they keep the same characters but replace the actors that killed in the roles first time round...AmIright...

    Ugghh, there are a ton of great storylines out there from the comics and the cartoon without having to resort to this rubbish.....I really hope I'm wrong but something tells me this is going to suck harder than Origins:Wolverine, and that would take some doing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,169 ✭✭✭JohnnyRyan99


    U clearly liked the original X-Mens, Which i thought were pure muck! And Wolverine was an aboration! Im pleased to see new actors come in.. And even more so to have Matthew Vaughan direct rather than the awul Ratner and Singer!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭Jazzy


    if Jonathan Rhys Myers plays magneto ill get physically ill. such a bad bad actor. one of the school of 'expressing ev-er-y syllable all of the time and then stare at the camera' actors. hes just a pretty face and not an actor.

    hopefully they get sinister to be a bad guy in this :) (with added hints of apocalypse)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Seems I was wrong on the last count and Fassbander really is back in the picture. Great news so!

    Yeah I'd dig it if Sinister is the villain. I'd want a classic 616 portrayal though, they can GTFO if they adapt the ultimate incarnation. :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    Seems I was wrong on the last count and Fassbander really is back in the picture. Great news so!

    Yeah I'd dig it if Sinister is the villain. I'd want a classic 616 portrayal though, they can GTFO if they adapt the ultimate incarnation. :mad:


    Yep the 616 Sinister is the only way to go. Would be pretty easy to tie him into a storyline given his connection with Scott's early in the comics.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Somebody wanna clarify the diference between 616 Sinister and Ultimate Sinister?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    Galvasean wrote: »
    Somebody wanna clarify the diference between 616 Sinister and Ultimate Sinister?

    616 Sinister is a bad ass Mengle type, with a range of powers including regeneration, super strength, super durability and the ability to shape shift. Oh yeah he is a genius on top of that.

    616 Mr Sinister

    MrSinister3.jpg


    440px-Sinister.png


    Ultimate Sinister is covered in Tattoos, has a stammer,wears a beanie hat, needs guns as weapons. The only thing he has going for him is that Apocalypse can use him (when dead) to come into existence.



    Ultimate Mr Sinister


    Ultimate-sinister.jpg










    And in the last year or two we have had Miss Sinister.:)


    Miss_Sinister_Head.jpg


    465682-sinister_super.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    616 Sinister is the one I'm used to. Good character.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,090 ✭✭✭jill_valentine


    Basically, 616 Sinister's whole gimmick was that he was, er... well, sinister, rather than just an outright thug. He was a plotter who knew better than to do his own dirty work, and seems to have had a discreet hand in a load of significant events in X Men's history right back into the last century.

    He's a neat supervillain, because he's very businesslike about it all and he gets to do a lot of "Ah, but that's what I wanted you to think!" bits.

    A bit like yer man who used to present Crystal Maze.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭constitutionus


    jesus.

    that makes me glad i gave up on ultimate xmen years ago.

    616 sinister is WAY better , right down the the whole faustian element in doing a deal with apocalypse to gain immortality (IIRC that cyclops and jean grey mini) .

    hes got almost sympathetic elements to him.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,857 ✭✭✭Valmont


    Galvasean wrote: »
    Im thinking there is very little Michael Fassbender can't do right now.
    I believe he is rumoured to be the lead in the new Helen Keller musical.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,029 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Alice Eve has signed on to play telepath Emma Frost


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,029 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/news/a240704/nicholas-hoult-to-star-in-x-men.html

    Nicholas Hoult has joined the cast of prequel X-Men: First Class, Coming Soon has confirmed.
    Hoult, the former Skins and A Single Man star, will play Beast, a scientist who possesses superhuman strength and a blue, cat-like appearance. Benjamin Walker had previously been attached to role, but left due to a scheduling clash.
    In addition, Caleb Landry Jones has been cast as Sean Cassidy, a hero with a 'sonic scream' also known as Banshee.
    James McAvoy, Michael Fassbender, Alice Eve and Aaron Johnson are among the cast for Matthew Vaughn's First Class, which begins filming in London this summer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    I trust Vaughn to put a bit of effort in and make sure that Banshee doesn't have a diddley-I accent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »



    I hope that the description of Beast there is just a cock up by the person who wrote the article and not how Beast is to be in the film. He would still be in human form if the timeline is meant to be correct, and his cat like Beast look is the most recent of his animal looks.

    He was human looking first, then he had a grey animal like look, then came a blue version of that look, and finally came the more feline look when his secondary mutation kicked in years later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Basically, 616 Sinister's whole gimmick was that he was, er... well, sinister, rather than just an outright thug. He was a plotter who knew better than to do his own dirty work, and seems to have had a discreet hand in a load of significant events in X Men's history right back into the last century.

    I really enjoyed the episode from the 90s cartoon set in Charles Darwin times that explained his back story.
    Kess73 wrote: »
    I hope that the description of Beast there is just a cock up by the person who wrote the article and not how Beast is to be in the film. He would still be in human form if the timeline is meant to be correct, and his cat like Beast look is the most recent of his animal looks.

    He was human looking first, then he had a grey animal like look, then came a blue version of that look, and finally came the more feline look when his secondary mutation kicked in years later.

    I wouldn't worry too much about it. Big media often cock up their descriptions of comic booky things.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Kevin Bacon is reportedly in talks to play a villain in X-Men: First Class, the mutant prequel you’ve heard so much about recently. That’s because the cast is coming together quickly for an August start date and Fox is not confirming any of the rampant rumors circulating the Web until they’re good and ready.

    Deadline isn’t sure which character Bacon will play, if he does sign the deal. Other sites have suggest Mister Sinister, a genetic mutant with superhuman mental and physical abilities, or Mastermind, an evil character capable of casting psychic images. One thing I haven’t seen much of is the possibility Bacon would play an ordinary, run-of-the-mill human, like the mutant-hating William Stryker of Bryan Singer’s X2.

    We already know the crux of the story will focus on the early friendship of Eric Lensherr (later Magneto and played by Michael Fassbender) and Charles Xavier (later Professor X and played by James McAvoy). Perhaps Bacon will be a Nazi at Auschwitz where Lensherr was held as a child, or a sinister person in Charles’ past. I’m just not sure Bacon will be the super-villain everyone is expecting, especially with a packed cast of powerful freaks already. Of course, that is purely speculation on my part, just like any other guess at this point.

    Please feel free to throw out your own possibilities, and hopefully we’ll know more soon about who just moved a few degrees closer to Kevin Bacon.

    One thing is for sure, Matthew Vaughn is assembling a great cast.

    http://www.newsinfilm.com/2010/07/09/kevin-bacon-playing-x-men-first-class-villain/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

    If Bacon does end up signing on then I would prefer if it was a character such as what I've bolded above. I think Bacon would be a great asshole type government official. I'm not sure if Bacon would be the right fit for Mr. Sinister.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    http://www.newsinfilm.com/2010/07/09/kevin-bacon-playing-x-men-first-class-villain/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

    If Bacon does end up signing on then I would prefer if it was a character such as what I've bolded above. I think Bacon would be a great asshole type government official. I'm not sure if Bacon would be the right fit for Mr. Sinister.



    Bacon as Sinister. Oh please no.


    As Jason Wyngarde though? Hmmm that could kinda work.



    As for Sinister, I tend to like the idea of Jason Isaacs as Mister S.


    .JASON-ISAACS-MrSinister-ACTOR-X-MEN-4-LEEE777.gif



    .JASON-ISAACS-MR-SINISTER.LEEE777.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Bacn is a great actor. I dont think he'd suit Mr. Sinister though. Wearing a green military general suit though, that'd be boss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭RoRoCullen


    Kess73 wrote: »
    Bacon as Sinister. Oh please no.


    As Jason Wyngarde though? Hmmm that could kinda work.



    As for Sinister, I tend to like the idea of Jason Isaacs as Mister S.


    I would LOVE him to be in it:)


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,531 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    It's official, Kevin Bacon has signed on as a villain, still no word on who though.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    In this special Secret Identity, we're offering a few of the "X-Men" villains we think Bacon is capable of playing in "First Class."

    Cameron Hodge: A cofounder of the original X-Factor squad, Cameron Hodge was secretly the head of anti-mutant organization The Right, attempting to break down human-mutant relations with a powerful inside position. Eventually, his head was severed by Archangel and reattached to a cybernetic body as he continued his anti-mutant campaign. A meaty role with plenty of room for the over-the-top flourishes Bacon is known for, Hodge would be a compelling nemesis to throw at the first class of Charles Xavier's mutants.

    Graydon Creed: Secretly the offspring of mutants Mystique and Victor "Sabretooth" Creed, Graydon Creed was the leader of Friends of Humanity, an anti-mutant terrorist group committing hate crimes against mutants and their human sympathizers. A less physically dramatic role than Hodge, Creed poses an ideological threat that could realistically divide Charles and Magneto on their paths towards achieving large scale mutant acceptance.

    Mister Sinister: Fans have long pined for the arrival of Mister Sinister on the big screen. The pale skinned Sinister wields telepathic and telekinetic powers, molecular manipulation and an unhealthy obsession with the Summers brothers, Cyclops in particular. Sinister would present Xavier, Magneto and the rest of the young mutants with a physically and intellectually powerful opponent. Like Hodge and Creed, it's a grand role that Bacon could have limitless fun with.

    Steven Lang: Much like Hodge and Creed, Steven Lang is an outspoken opponent of mutant rights, going so far as to come up with a dangerous, tangible solution: the creation of Master Mold and the Sentinels. Bacon would work just fine as Lang, but the real upside of him inhabiting this role would be the arrival of Sentinels in an "X-Men" movie, something we haven't seen outside of their brief appearance in a Danger Room sequence in "The Last Stand." I think we can all agree that a major Sentinel presence is long overdue.

    Trevor Fitzroy: Future-born criminal Trevor Fitzroy is a time terrorist, traveling back to the X-Men's present much to the chagrin of Bishop. Not only is Bacon a perfect fit for the arrogant Fitzroy, the character's inclusion would serve to reset the Bryan Singer and Brett Ratner era of "X-Men" films much in the same way that J.J. Abrams recently rebooted the "Star Trek" franchise. It's not the craziest idea in the world — after all, there are rumors that future shapeshifter Willow is somehow a part of "First Class," so don't be surprised if Fox takes a cue from Paramount in using Bacon as Fitzroy to reboot the "X-Men" property.

    http://splashpage.mtv.com/2010/07/12...n-first-class/

    I would prefer if he got Lang or Hodge, however I wouldn't mind if he played Fitzroy for the reasons mentioned above. I think these type of characters are perfect for Bacon, we know he can play that hateful arrogant asshole role to perfection. I just don't see him as Sinister.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Mr. K


    Bacon would be an excellent Cameron Hodge. I haven't thought about the character in years, but I remember really hating him for his betrayal!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,029 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2010/07/15/x-men-first-class-kevin-bacon-joins-the-cast/
    Sources confirm that Kevin Bacon has joined Matthew Vaughn’s X-Men: First Class cast. Details of his role are being kept under wraps, but sources tell us he will play a villain, sparring against protagonists Charles Xavier, played by James McAvoy, and Magneto, Michael Fassbender’s role. It’s not clear who Bacon’s character is specifically, or how he’ll figure into the X-Men universe, but it will be fun to watch. Deadline Hollywood first reported this last week.
    Also joining the team is up-and-comer Jennifer Lawrence who received raves earlier this year for her leading role in the Sundance smash Winter’s Bone. The 19-year old actress will play Mystique, the role originated by Rebecca Romijn in the X-Men trilogy. The Hollywood Reporter first reported this news today.
    Twentieth Century Fox declined to comment on either casting addition. Filming is set to begin this summer in London.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,531 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    I could see him as any of those apart from sinister. Were all those villains in the X-Men: First Class comic though? I've not read it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    http://splashpage.mtv.com/2010/07/12...n-first-class/

    I would prefer if he got Lang or Hodge, however I wouldn't mind if he played Fitzroy for the reasons mentioned above. I think these type of characters are perfect for Bacon, we know he can play that hateful arrogant asshole role to perfection. I just don't see him as Sinister.



    Yeah would have to agree that he would suit a Lang or Hodge role. Not sure about Fitzroy but it would not be much of a stretch to imagine Bacon doing a good job in that role too. Although now I am picturing Bacon's head on the cyborg body that Hodge eventually got. :)


    Him as Sinister is just a no. Just cannot see him in the role at all. The Sinister role would lose impact with Bacon in it imho. Based on past roles and how he looks, I always tend to lean towards Isaacs for the Sinister slot.

    Would be surprised if they put the Graydon Creed character into the film as it would be hard to put him in and not go over old ground. If they stay somewhat faithful to the character, ignoring timelines somewhat, then it would be similar to the first X Men film where a political figure is campaigning against mutants, and using the later story line where Bastion
    brings him back to life
    would not fit at all.

    Actually there is a character that would have been interesting to see onscreen in a big way in an X -Film. Bastion. Although it could be argued that he could get turned into another Stryker by film writers rather than portrayed as he was in the comics.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Kess73 wrote: »
    Yeah would have to agree that he would suit a Lang or Hodge role. Not sure about Fitzroy but it would not be much of a stretch to imagine Bacon doing a good job in that role too. Although now I am picturing Bacon's head on the cyborg body that Hodge eventually got. :)


    Him as Sinister is just a no. Just cannot see him in the role at all. The Sinister role would lose impact with Bacon in it imho. Based on past roles and how he looks, I always tend to lean towards Isaacs for the Sinister slot.

    Would be surprised if they put the Graydon Creed character into the film as it would be hard to put him in and not go over old ground. If they stay somewhat faithful to the character, ignoring timelines somewhat, then it would be similar to the first X Men film where a political figure is campaigning against mutants, and using the later story line where Bastion
    brings him back to life
    would not fit at all.

    Actually there is a character that would have been interesting to see onscreen in a big way in an X -Film. Bastion. Although it could be argued that he could get turned into another Stryker by film writers rather than portrayed as he was in the comics.

    Fitzroy would be a stretch, you'd have to bring Cable into the fold and it would be too much of a departure from the source material.

    Totally agreed on Sinister, I just think whoever plays Sinister needs to have fuller facial features than Bacon has and slightly more physically imposing presence.

    I'm just all for him playing a normal human who has an intense hatred for mutants, but unfortunately, that doesn't look to be happening. :(

    http://www.forcesofgeek.com/2010/07/kevin-bacon-playing-sebastian-shaw-in-x.html




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    Fitzroy would be a stretch, you'd have to bring Cable into the fold and it would be too much of a departure from the source material.

    Totally agreed on Sinister, I just think whoever plays Sinister needs to have fuller facial features than Bacon has and slightly more physically imposing presence.

    I'm just all for him playing a normal human who has an intense hatred for mutants, but unfortunately, that doesn't look to be happening. :(

    http://www.forcesofgeek.com/2010/07/kevin-bacon-playing-sebastian-shaw-in-x.html





    Be even harder to leave Bishop out of a Fitzroy backstory than Cable. And as you pointed out already, the Cable link would be too much of a departure from the source material so trying to shoehorn Bishop in would be nigh on impossible.



    Oh crap just noticed the link you had up. Bacon as Shaw????? Now I would have no problem with the Hellfire club having some involvement but Bacon as Shaw?!?!?!?!

    No just no.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,029 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Jason Fleming also on board now for this


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    So Bryan Singer just called regarding Matthew Vaughn's X-MEN: FIRST CLASSmag-glass_10x10.gif... I'm quite excited now.

    Hey folks, Harry here with a great update on X-MEN: FIRST CLASS that just came from Producer: Bryan Singer - who tells me he's been working on X-MEN: FIRST CLASS for over a year now and with the looming August 31st, filming date approaching - he wanted to clarify some of what it is they're doing.

    First off - the film takes place in the 1960's. John F Kennedy is the President of the United States. Martin Luther King and Malcolm X are on TV doing marches. There is a spirit of a hopeful future that was prevalent in that time. We will see how Xavier and Erik Lehnsherr met - and how they dreamt of a future with Mutant & Human kind. They're going to be in their late twenties. Xavier - as played by James McAvoy will not be in his wheelchair to begin the film - but we will see how he wound up in a wheelchair. I asked if McAvoy would have a nice shiny chrome dome - and folks. We're going to see Professor X when he still had hair. We'll see McAvoy and Fassbender's Magneto formulate what it is they are attempting by creating the X-MEN.

    Now Bryan wanted us to know this is not the conventional FIRST CLASS comic - but rather a new beginning for X-MEN. Set in the 60s - Vaughn is technologically inspired by JAMES BOND's tech of the time. The costumes will be far more comic bookish than we've seen before - and while Scott and Jean aren't here - Cyclops' brother Alex Summers aka Havoc will be, as played by Lucas Till.

    With January Jones and Kevin Bacon playing Emma Frost and Sebastian Shaw - we will be getting the HELLFIRE CLUB. I commented that the HELLFIRE CLUB has always felt like something that it would be wrong to modernize, as it felt as though it were something specific to the swinging Hefner era of the 60s... and Bryan said that's exactly why they're making use of the HELLFIRE CLUB... the dress and the costumes associated with that glorious period of the X-MEN... belong in the 60s. I asked if Kevin Bacon would be sporting that little ponytail with the ribbon - Bryan laughed and said, "We'll see".

    In regards to the cast, Bryan was especially excited to land Nicholas Hoult as Hank McCoy/Beast. Nicholas was set for FURY ROAD, but their start date shifted which opened up his availability for FIRST CLASS. Also - Rose Byrne is playing Moira MacTaggert, I liked her in KNOWING. And I think she's fairly perfect for Moira. The cast list over on IMDB is correct (with the exception of the Rosamund Pike rumor).

    Looks like filming will begin with Xavier at Oxford University in the 60s. And Bryan is excited that the film is going to have a much more international feel than the prior X-MEN movies. They'll be shooting in England & the United States - and they'll be representing other locales around the globe as well, but would only tell me that Russia (aka The Soviet Union... CCCP) will be amongst them. He doesn't want to show all the cards just yet. But the International flavor will give the film a more James Bond vibe... I get the idea that this is going to be something quite special.

    How can I say that based on a quick conversation with Bryan? Well... folks, this is the first time that we're going to get a silver age MARVEL story. That's incredibly exciting to me. Hearing Bryan actually saying that the costumes will be far more reflective of what we saw in the comics - well that is exciting. But more than that... I just can't wait to see young vital versions of Xavier and Magneto played by excellent actors in their prime.

    But more so... This is the time for Matthew Vaughn to shine. I loved KICK ASS, but it didn't have the namebrand of X-MEN or the scope that those stories have. Here, everything that Vaughn has can be put on display. Having Vaughn work in a James Bond-esque period - that was the period that the X-MEN first came to life. There's potential for something amazing.

    There are characters that we're not being told about though. Bryan said so. And we can all speculate as to who they are. We know we're going to have Darwin, Young Raven Darkholme, Banshee, Havok, lil Mystique, Azazel, Emma Frost, Beast, Xavier, Magneto and a female Angel. So... who's missing? Well - I'm kinda hoping for Donald Pierce and Harry Leland - myself. How about you?

    http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/106051-major-x-men-first-class-details-emerge

    Hmmmmm. An X-Men film without Wolverine, Cyclops, Jean Grey and Storm will be a hard sell. However I think that as long as Singer & Vaughn put a strong trailer together, that fully showcases the mutant powers that will be on show, then the film will get people in seats.

    Bacon is indeed Sebastian Shaw, sorry Kess. :pac: I think it's best that Bacon isn't Sinister because I don't think that kids, only exploring their powers for the first time. would be quite ready for a villain of Sinister's magnitude. Ditto in regards to Apocalypse.

    Not too sure about reverting back to the gimmicky costumes of the comics, I mean Singer himself did rip on them already with Wolverine's quip about yellow spandex. :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/106051-major-x-men-first-class-details-emerge

    Hmmmmm. An X-Men film without Wolverine, Cyclops, Jean Grey and Storm will be a hard sell. However I think that as long as Singer & Vaughn put a strong trailer together, that fully showcases the mutant powers that will be on show, then the film will get people in seats.

    Bacon is indeed Sebastian Shaw, sorry Kess. :pac: I think it's best that Bacon isn't Sinister because I don't think that kids, only exploring their powers for the first time. would be quite ready for a villain of Sinister's magnitude. Ditto in regards to Apocalypse.

    Not too sure about reverting back to the gimmicky costumes of the comics, I mean Singer himself did rip on them already with Wolverine's quip about yellow spandex. :confused:



    One really has to wonder about what timeline they are using for this. It is not going to fit in with any of the other X- movies if this one is set during the 1960's.

    Also if the some of the character names listed are going to be the first X-Men team, then they will be creating new timeline that does not tie in with any of the films or with the comics.


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