Northern Ireland minister calls on Ulster Museum to promote creationism

SlabMurphy

The DUP's ( who else :rolleyes: ) Nelson McCausland believes that Ulster Protestants are one of the lost tribes of Israel and he has written to the Ulster museum for the inclusion of anti-Darwinian theories in the museum as "a human rights issue".

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/may/26/northern-ireland-ulster-museum-creationism

So folks, do you think they should be teaching McCausland's theories for the Leaving cert ?

Stinicker

I suggest as children of Israel that the DUP and its supporters should immediatley leave for Israel for the good of Zionism!

Superbus

This is silly, wacky, and all sorts of other things like that.

dlofnep

I don't think McCausland's views should be taught in anywhere except a church. That goes for catholic, muslim or any other religious views either. He's a numpty.

fontanalis

Is it true that when you enter Norn Iron you set your watch back 50 years?

SlabMurphy

Stinicker wrote: »

I suggest as children of Israel that the DUP and its supporters should immediatley leave for Israel for the good of Zionism!

Well the Zionists and DUPers would deserve each other indeed, where you'd put them I don't know. But when you think about McCausland is no more different than the vast majority of the citizens of Israel. Both come from countries 1,000's of miles away from the middle east and claim that their ancestors orginated there 2,000 years ago. So DUPism and Zionism are effectively similiar !!!!

SlabMurphy

fontanalis wrote: »

Is it true that when you enter Norn Iron you set your watch back 50 years?

Well in council areas controlled by the DUP such as Ballymena where even the kids swings used to be tied up on Sundays because Paisley and co. deduced that if kids were playing on the swings on a Sunday they wouldn't be observing Sunday the day of rest - serious.

stovelid

I hate the way I'm so sorely tempted to like nutcases like McCausland just to annoy other boards posters.

It's not fair.

Turtyturd

SlabMurphy wrote: »

The DUP's ( who else :rolleyes: )

Mary McAleese, she is as fond of a bit of proddy baiting as the next person.

TwoShedsJackson

Religion, the superstition that just keeps on giving.

PeterIanStaker

Religion: bringing hope to those whose lives have been torn apart by religion.

Dionysus

fontanalis wrote: »

Is it true that when you enter Norn Iron you set your watch back 50 years?

More like 350 years, to be historically accurate about it.

There was a tendency within the Irish post-Cromwellian poets to portray the dispossessed Irish as the lost Israelites sent into bondage by Cromwell. (Fear)Dorcha Ó Mealláin's 'Exodus to Connacht' from c. 1650 is probably the best representation of this. You won't hear much of that in the nationalist community today.

British Protestant settlers in Ireland of a Calvinist bent have been referring to themselves as 'Israelites' since at least the latter part of the seventeenth century. Edward Walkinton for instance gave a 1692 sermon: 'And now, o inhabitants of Jerusalem, and men of Judah, judge, I pray you, betwixt me and my vineyard. What could have been done more to my vineyard, that I have not done in it? Wherefore when l looked that it should bring, forth grapes, brought it forth wild grapes.'

PS: There is also the case of the "British Israelites" who dug up the Hill of Tara in the early 20th century looking for an ark.

Magill

fontanalis wrote: »

Is it true that when you enter Norn Iron you set your watch back 50 years?

eh ?

SlabMurphy

Turtyturd wrote: »

Mary McAleese, she is as fond of a bit of proddy baiting as the next person.

McCausland and his unionIist like him don't deserve a bit of baiting ?

Abrasax

Republicans up north tend to sympathise with the Palestinians, so naturally the prods side with the Israelis but claiming to be the lost sons of Israel is a bit much.
There must be some grant money in it or something.

Abrasax

SlabMurphy wrote: »

McCausland and his unionIist like him don't deserve a bit of baiting ?

All those who engage in internecine conflict or tribalism, be it of the mind or that actually requiring the construction of walls, deserve to be baited.

Herb Powell

funny troll is funny

Min

The Irish according to one theory has it that the Irish are descended from the Tribe of Dan - one of the lost tribes of Israel.
The prophet Jeremiah is believed to have come to Ireland - a time when the ten tribes of Israel existed.

Bad news for the DUP is it would be Irish people in general who are descendants of the lost tribes of Israel and it doesn't mean anything in terms of creationism or evolution.

fontanalis

Min wrote: »

The Irish according to one theory has it that the Irish are descended from the Tribe of Dan - one of the lost tribes of Israel.
The prophet Jeremiah is believed to have come to Ireland - a time when the ten tribes of Israel existed.

Bad news for the DUP is it would be Irish people in general who are descendants of the lost tribes of Israel and it doesn't mean anything in terms of creationism or evolution.

Dan Boyle? The book of invasions tries to tie the irish leadership at the time of it being written into the old testament/god but it's all bobbins, glorified mormonism.

moonpurple

in reply to OP

the orange on our flag of the Irish republic and the good friday agreement protect irish protestants in any area of their self determination :pac:

bain teatneamh as

cloneslad

does the OP ever post anything here not related to protestant / catholic relations?


Troll food €5, get you troll food!!

Mike 1972

fontanalis wrote: »

Is it true that when you enter Norn Iron you set your watch back 50 years?

Asks the resident of a country most of which doesnt even have proper broadband...........

SlabMurphy wrote: »

Well in council areas controlled by the DUP such as Ballymena where even the kids swings used to be tied up on Sundays.

While sixty odd miles down the road thousands of films and books used to be banned and the sale of contraceptives used to be a criminal offence.............

Its getting very crowded in that glass house lads !

bigeasyeah

Wow really! Thats so interesting.Wow! How enriched my life has become after learning of this fascinating news.

Magill

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Asks the resident of a country most of which doesnt even have proper broadband...........



While sixty odd miles down the road thousands of films and books used to be banned and the sale of contraceptives used to be a criminal offence.............

Its getting very crowded in that glass house lads !

HAHA, you tell em mate !

Mmcd

dlofnep wrote: »

I don't think McCausland's views should be taught in anywhere especially a church. That goes for catholic, muslim or any other religious views either. He's a numpty.

FYP

davrho

So whats happening to this Ulster/Scots pish? Are they starting Ulster/Hebrew?

Biggins

Stabmurphy, your post, your attempt to sir things just fails.
It also says a lot about character. Something that has a mindset still in the dark ages.

Move on...

biko

Title change to reflect the issue linked.

Herb Powell

davrho wrote: »

So whats happening to this Ulster/Scots pish? Are they starting Ulster/Hebrew?

"Fare faw ye tae the Ards"

smk89

fontanalis wrote: »

Is it true that when you enter Norn Iron you set your watch back 50 years?

I thought that once. Then my house got broadband!!!
Oh and I remembered I don't feed trolls

Winty

Turtyturd wrote: »

Mary McAleese, she is as fond of a bit of proddy baiting as the next person.

Abrasax wrote: »

Republicans up north tend to sympathise with the Palestinians, so naturally the prods side with the Israelis but claiming to be the lost sons of Israel is a bit much.
There must be some grant money in it or something.

Can we not use terms like "proddy" or "prods" please

bigeasyeah

What do you call a tea drank by Jewish males?
A Hebrew

Aids By Google

Dionysus wrote: »

More like 350 years, to be historically accurate about it.

There was a tendency within the Irish post-Cromwellian poets to portray the dispossessed Irish as the lost Israelites sent into bondage by Cromwell. (Fear)Dorcha Ó Mealláin's 'Exodus to Connacht' from c. 1650 is probably the best representation of this. You won't hear much of that in the nationalist community today.

British Protestant settlers in Ireland of a Calvinist bent have been referring to themselves as 'Israelites' since at least the latter part of the seventeenth century. Edward Walkinton for instance gave a 1692 sermon: 'And now, o inhabitants of Jerusalem, and men of Judah, judge, I pray you, betwixt me and my vineyard. What could have been done more to my vineyard, that I have not done in it? Wherefore when l looked that it should bring, forth grapes, brought it forth wild grapes.'

PS: There is also the case of the "British Israelites" who dug up the Hill of Tara in the early 20th century looking for an ark.

I sleep tonight much with more knowledge that I woke up with.

Thanks

Mike 1972

There is a movement called British Israelism which maintins that (depending on which variant/faction yer havin yourself) the people of the British Isles in general/Ulster Protestants in particular are one of the mythical lost tribes of Israel (Some factions of the BI movement allegedly espouse far right neo-nazi idealogy which suggests that joined up thinking may not be their strong point).

Some even maintain that the six pointed star in the "Ulster flag" (The red/white version with the crown) has its origins in the Star of David (Actually its just represents the six counties of Ulster Northern Ireland).

While its completly loopy it isint really significantly more or less so than any other religion.

Lentil

If I get enough people believing that a giant teapot sits in orbit around Jupiter, will oul Nelson get that in the Ulster Museum too?

Mike 1972

Only if it contains Nambarrie tea

SlabMurphy

cloneslad wrote: »

does the OP ever post anything here not related to protestant / catholic relations?


Troll food €5, get you troll food!!

Where on this thread did I post anything here to related to protestant / catholic relations ? The OP is about a unionists bigot's insane belief that Ulster Protestants are one of the lost tribes of Israel and he has written to the Ulster museum for the inclusion of anti-Darwinian theories in the museum as "a human rights issue".

Mike 1972 wrote: »

While sixty odd miles down the road thousands of films and books used to be banned and the sale of contraceptives used to be a criminal offence.............

Its getting very crowded in that glass house lads !

Well we're geting a little off topic but 60 miles down the road and on the 'mainalnd' thousands of films and books used to be banned and the sale of contraceptives used to be a criminal offence though I would say that their laws contraceptives were changed before ours. Still whatever about us at least we don't have laws that make it illegal that the head of state cannot be or married to a Catholic.

ejmaztec

Oy veh, no surrender.

aDeener

Biggins wrote: »

Stabmurphy, your post, your attempt to sir things just fails.
It also says a lot about character. Something that has a mindset still in the dark ages.

Move on...

what the hell? the op's post was true?! :rolleyes:


this is just because its a unionist politician thats been shown in a bad light

Mike 1972

SlabMurphy wrote: »

Well we're geting a little off topic but 60 miles down the road and on the 'mainalnd' thousands of films and books used to be banned and the sale of contraceptives used to be a criminal offence though I would say that their laws contraceptives were changed before ours.

Eh ?

SlabMurphy wrote: »

we don't have laws that make it illegal that the head of state cannot be or married to a Catholic

Not that we want to be going off topic or anything mind.............

mcmickey

Dionysus wrote: »

More like 350 years, to be historically accurate about it.

There was a tendency within the Irish post-Cromwellian poets to portray the dispossessed Irish as the lost Israelites sent into bondage by Cromwell. (Fear)Dorcha Ó Mealláin's 'Exodus to Connacht' from c. 1650 is probably the best representation of this. You won't hear much of that in the nationalist community today.

A poem 350 years ago comparing the dispossessed Irish to the lost Israelites is one thing, a politican affirming that the Ulster Protestants are the lost tribe of Israel is quite another.

recylingbin

Don't forget, God invented retards. So it's a sin to laugh at this guy.

moonpurple

slab murphy above protesting his cuddly nature and brotherly love, yet calls himself after one of the border county nutters who are best described by one word....omagh

what a tool you are slabmurphy

mcmickey

It shouldn't surprise anyone what the unionists come out with :rolleyes: They invented a theory back in the 70's that they were the desendants of a tribe of people called the Cruthin and said that they were the original inhabitants of Ireland, arriving long before the Gaels . They claimed the Gaels came and drove the Cruthin to Scotland but, during the 17th century Plantations of Ulster, the Cruthin returned. Like Zionism they tried to claim they were the original inhabitants and the 'chosen people' who had returned to their 'Promised Land'.

Mike 1972

mcmickey wrote: »

It shouldn't surprise anyone what the unionists come out with :rolleyes: They invented a theory back in the 70's ........'.

And one million + people got into a room together one day and came up with this little theory ? :rolleyes:

mcmickey

Mike 1972 wrote: »

And one million + people got into a room together one day and came up with this little theory ? :rolleyes:

Well since it was a unionist councilor called Ian Adamson from Queen's uni in Belfast who invented this crackpot theory and it was supported by other unionist politicans like MP John Taylor as well as paramilitry's such as the UDA, is it not correct to ascribe this theory to that political viewpoint ?

Mike 1972

mcmickey wrote: »

Well since it was a unionist councilor called Ian Adamson from Queen's uni in Belfast who invented this crackpot theory and it was supported by other unionist politicans like MP John Taylor as well as paramilitry's such as the UDA, is it not correct to ascribe this theory to that political viewpoint ?

About as correct as ascribing the ramblings of say Jackie Healy Rae to the entire Nationalist population on the island of Ireland ?

dlofnep

Mike 1972 wrote: »

And one million + people got into a room together one day and came up with this little theory ? :rolleyes:

It's interesting that you've never highlighted this when sweeping generalizations are made about republicans. Food for thought.

Not that I disagree with your sentiment.

mcmickey

Mike 1972 wrote: »

About as correct as ascribing the ramblings of say Jackie Healy Rae to the entire Nationalist population on the island of Ireland ?

Unfortunately we have to owe up that Jackie is one of our own :rolleyes:

Mike 1972

dlofnep wrote: »

It's interesting that you've never highlighted this when sweeping generalizations are made about republicans. Food for thought.

Examples ?

dlofnep

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Examples ?

That would be an idea. Find me one of your posts that corrects a user for making sweeping generalisations about Republicans and we'll call it quits.

Here's a start: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=66115595&postcount=666