WWE Fatal 4 Way Pre-Show thread ***Spoilers***

D2D

1 match announced so far:

Fatal-4-Way match for the WWE Title: Cena (c) vs. Orton vs. Edge vs. Sheamus

JP Liz V1

The previous ppv poster featured Christian on it so I guess he is not in SD's main event title match which will be Punk/Swagger/Rey/Show

D2D

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

The previous ppv poster featured Christian on it so I guess he is not in SD's main event title match which will be Punk/Swagger/Rey/Show

Dave Meltzer said Rey has been granted some time off so I don't know whether he'll be in the match

JP Liz V1

Dare_2_defy wrote: »

Dave Meltzer said Rey has been granted some time off so I don't know whether he'll be in the match

Maybe then Kane will take Rey's spot

Furious-Red

I could see Swagger Vs Show Vs Christian Vs MVP

Mr. Guappa

Are all the matches on the card going to be Fatal 4-ways or just the main events? The constant breaking up of pin attempts would get tiresome pretty quickly!!

The IC title picture is pretty crowded with Kofi, Drew, Hardy and Christian all involved, so a 4-way there seems likely. A 4-way US title match would also be easily booked: R-Truth v. Miz v. Ted DiBiase v. Morrison.

D2D

Furious-Red wrote: »

I could see Swagger Vs Show Vs Christian Vs MVP

I wouldn't hold my breath on Christian in SD's main event

F4WOnline.com:

As seen last Friday on Smackdown, Dolph Ziggler attacked Christian from behind on the "Peep Show," which green-lighted a program between the two. The feud is being seen as a demotion for Christian, but a promotion for Ziggler. Furthermore, advertised house show line-ups have Christian teaming up with Hornswoggle to take on Ziggler and Chavo Guerrero.

chopperbyrne

Poor Christian.

At least he's getting plenty of TV time and should get PPV appearances, but it's unlikely he'll ever get that main event push in WWE.

D2D

Credit F4WOnline:

-- WWE isn't one hundred percent sure that Orton will be ready by the Fatal Four Way PPV so they're playing it by ear. If in the next few weeks it doesn't look like he's going to be ready they'll probably shoot and angle where someone takes him out and gets the fourth spot, perhaps Jericho or HHH. But they're hoping he'll be ready.

chopperbyrne

Dare_2_defy wrote: »

Credit F4WOnline:

-- WWE isn't one hundred percent sure that Orton will be ready by the Fatal Four Way PPV so they're playing it by ear. If in the next few weeks it doesn't look like he's going to be ready they'll probably shoot and angle where someone takes him out and gets the fourth spot, perhaps Jericho or HHH. But they're hoping he'll be ready.

Even if he's not 100% it's much easier to keep him protected in a four way match than a one one one match.

He can be left on the outside for large portions of the match. Only being involved in a few preplanned spots and maybe the finish if necessary.

Rjd2

Furious-Red wrote: »

I could see Swagger Vs Show Vs Christian Vs MVP

If MVP ends up in a world title match, I would be shocked.

The IC match could be quality, Drew,Kofi and two out of Cody, Dolph, Christian and even Masters who is pretty good these days could put on the sleeper of the night.

D2D

Based on last night's action at the Smackdown tapings in Cleveland, Jack Swagger will face The Undertaker, The Big Show and C.M Punk in a Fatal-4-Way match for the World Heavyweight Championship at the 6/20 PPV.

glenjamin

Dare_2_defy wrote: »

Furthermore, advertised house show line-ups have Christian teaming up with Hornswoggle to take on Ziggler and Chavo Guerrero.

I'm not sure what's worse: Demoting Christian to a meaningless feud like that, or starting another Chavo/Hornswoggle feud!

I'd say it will be Swagger, Show, Punk, and Taker at Fatal4Way with Swagger retaining as he's suposed to begin a feud with Taker round Summerslam.

D2D

glenjamin wrote: »

I'm not sure what's worse: Demoting Christian to a meaningless feud like that, or starting another Chavo/Hornswoggle feud!

I'd say it will be Swagger, Show, Punk, and Taker at Fatal4Way with Swagger retaining as he's suposed to begin a feud with Taker round Summerslam.

Well, that match is on SD this week

Gerard.C

These concept PPV's are really starting to bore me, and interest is starting to go out the window. Hopefully it'll pick up. Raw has been good lately, but the idea that ppv's HAVE to have a gimmick match is boring, they should only be used when they fit into a fued, not to try and get a little bump in the buyrate for the sake of it

JP Liz V1

There was talk this weekend of holding a four-way match for the WWE Unified Tag Team Titles at WWE's Fatal 4 Way pay-per-view in June. If it happens, two of the teams would be the defending Hart Dynasty and The Miz & Chris Jericho.

If this happens when the hell is Miz V Bryan going to happen :mad:

Bounty Hunter

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

If this happens when the hell is Miz V Bryan going to happen :mad:

would this not if anything make it more likely to happen as a lot more of the people who could have been filling up that card with matches will be lumped into just one instead?

dont know when Miz vs Bryan will happen but it will happen

d1975

is this going to be on Sky Sports?

D2D

d1975 wrote: »

is this going to be on Sky Sports?

According to the Sky Sports website, Fatal-4-Way will be on Sky Sports 2/HD2. Money in the Bank is also meant to be on it.

paddyismaddy

Dare_2_defy wrote: »

Based on last night's action at the Smackdown tapings in Cleveland, Jack Swagger will face The Undertaker, The Big Show and C.M Punk in a Fatal-4-Way match for the World Heavyweight Championship at the 6/20 PPV.

sounds awful

D2D

Dare_2_defy wrote: »

According to the Sky Sports website, Fatal-4-Way will be on Sky Sports 2/HD2. Money in the Bank is also meant to be on it.

It's now live on Sky Sports HD1/1 at 1am. The replay will be at 9pm on Sky Sports HD3/3 on the Monday

JP Liz V1

Rey Mysterio won a battle royal to determine Undertaker's WWE Fatal 4-Way replacement. Due to injuries, Taker will miss the match that he was originally scheduled to compete in at the upcoming PPV event.
So the World title match is set for Fatal 4-Way. It will be Rey Mysterio, CM Punk, Big Show and Jack Swagger in a four-way match for the title.

JP Liz V1

Source: The Wrestling Observer Newsletter
It's being reported that The Usos vs The Hart Dynasty is expected to take place at WWE's Fatal Four Way PPV.

geeky

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Rey Mysterio won a battle royal to determine Undertaker's WWE Fatal 4-Way replacement. Due to injuries, Taker will miss the match that he was originally scheduled to compete in at the upcoming PPV event.
So the World title match is set for Fatal 4-Way. It will be Rey Mysterio, CM Punk, Big Show and Jack Swagger in a four-way match for the title.

Could be a good match with a happy outcome. Unless they've gone mad, they won't have Rey win with the time off coming up, and IIRC Big Slow's knee is giving him a fair bit of bother. This could mean a good strong win for Punk or Swagger, and there's only one guy in the bout that bores me to tears.

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Source: The Wrestling Observer Newsletter
It's being reported that The Usos vs The Hart Dynasty is expected to take place at WWE's Fatal Four Way PPV.

This underlines how thin the tag-team division is. Unless WWE are cancelling one of their shows, they seriously need to bring the NXT rookies in and chuck a few of them in Tag-teams. Jericho-Barrett and Hardy-Gabriel seem natural choices.

D2D

Just realised this PPV is a week away and only 2 matches are on the card atm

jaykhunter

I don't think this PPV was ever going to sell well. And since it's not, they should let Barrett into the main event.

Rjd2

jaykhunter wrote: »

I don't think this PPV was ever going to sell well. And since it's not, they should let Barrett into the main event.

To take Orton's place? I dunno I suspect that if RKO misses out they may throw in a face, Evan maybe?


Ideally they should hold off on the Wade and Cena match for a few months, make it a lumberjack match with all the NXT guys outside, Cena doing his Superman gimmick would be perfect for that match.

jaykhunter

Rjd2 wrote: »

To take Orton's place? I dunno I suspect that if RKO misses out they may throw in a face, Evan maybe?


Ideally they should hold off on the Wade and Cena match for a few months, make it a lumberjack match with all the NXT guys outside, Cena doing his Superman gimmick would be perfect for that match.

Works for me Especially if the NXT guys were outside; giving Barrett a 'legit' chance at actually winning the title. Bourne probably makes more sense; invading RAW 13 days before a PPV is probably bad timing (too close to have a PPV match), but they could just 'invade' the 4 way matches as well

Rjd2

jaykhunter wrote: »

Works for me Especially if the NXT guys were outside; giving Barrett a 'legit' chance at actually winning the title. Bourne probably makes more sense; invading RAW 13 days before a PPV is probably bad timing (too close to have a PPV match), but they could just 'invade' the 4 way matches as well

Yep Cena overcoming those impossible odds does bring in the money. :pac:

Bourne should get RKO'S spot if Orton can't make it, I know as a draw Evan is unproven but Cena and Edge to a lesser level are proven money makers. They obviously feel that Sheamus can bring in some buys so one youngster in it isn't going to effect the buyrate that much.

I doubt its going to do much of a buyrate and judging by the lack of effort the E are putting into promoting it they probably agree. :pac::pac:

Although obviously if Orton is fit he should be in the match. :pac:

jaykhunter

JP Liz V1

After losing his US Title on Raw, R-Truth invoked his rematch clause against The Miz and at The WWE Fatal Four Way PPV it will be The Miz (c) vs. R-Truth for the US Title.

D2D

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

After losing his US Title on Raw, R-Truth invoked his rematch clause against The Miz and at The WWE Fatal Four Way PPV it will be The Miz (c) vs. R-Truth for the US Title.

Also added was a Fatal-4-Way match for the Diva's title between Eve, Alicia Fox, Maryse and Gail Kim

JP Liz V1

I wonder will we see a Team Nxt V Team Raw at this ppv also maybe

jaykhunter

they didn't show up on last week's SmackDown so i'd reckon it'd just be an NXT invasion sometime during the show.

Furious-Red

Yea would hope that NXT get involved with SD aswell

Mr.Nice Guy

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

After losing his US Title on Raw, R-Truth invoked his rematch clause against The Miz and at The WWE Fatal Four Way PPV it will be The Miz (c) vs. R-Truth for the US Title.

I thought all the matches were going to be fatal four way matches. Suppose it's good one isn't.

Mr. Guappa

This is such a filler PPV. I am only aware of 4 matches that have been announced, 2 of which were announced on Raw, there was no Harts/Usos interaction on Raw so that match looks unlikely.

Hopefully the NXT angle is furthered at the PPV to make it worth watching.

jaykhunter

yeah, totally. It's gonna bomb on PPV. Who cares about any of the matches? The only thing with any interest in the NXT angle.....i dunno if anyone would order the PPV to see if they do something on it.

JP Liz V1

Drew V Kofi for the IC title also added

Rjd2

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Drew V Kofi for the IC title also added

Seen it to often to care. They should have thrown in 2 out of Cody, Ziggler or Christian and you would have an awesome match.

JP Liz V1

Rjd2 wrote: »

Seen it to often to care. They should have thrown in 2 out of Cody, Ziggler or Christian and you would have an awesome match.

Yes Ziggler, Cody, MVP, Masters or Christian added would have made it better

jaykhunter

Agreed. Might as well make it a fatal four way.

OK lads, Extreme Rules got 178,000 buys worldwide. How many buys will this Sunday's Fatal Four Way get? More or less than 178,000?

grames_bond

^ id say less if i am being honest! they havent built the undercard at all, and even the ME's are a bit iffy and slapped together. Pure curiosity over the NXT

invasion

angle (spoilers just incase) may increase them a bit however so it will be interesting!

D2D

jaykhunter wrote: »

Agreed. Might as well make it a fatal four way.

OK lads, Extreme Rules got 178,000 buys worldwide. How many buys will this Sunday's Fatal Four Way get? More or less than 178,000?

Around 150,000 would be around the mark so less. This PPV feel's so thrown together, it's unreal. 1 week before the PPV, only 2 matches were on the card. They added 3 matches in the space of 2-3 days and the card still looks weak imho. This will bomb in the States (imagine paying $50 for this). It's lucky for us because this is on Sky Sports HD2/2. If it was on Box Office, the buy rates from that would be very small.

They should've promoted the PPV like these guys have

*bang*

Nody

100k mark is my prediction.

D2D

Nody wrote: »

100k mark is my prediction.

If it get's that, would that be the lowest buys of a WWE PPV. I know Breaking Point got 150,000ish buys but 100k?

The Bull

Any sign of the PPV perdiction Thread ??

Rjd2

Nody wrote: »

100k mark is my prediction.

Nah, I seriously feel their is a diehard 125 000 people who will buy WWE PPV's no matter what.


Its going to bomb badly, maybe 140 to 150 000 thousand?

jaykhunter

Nody wrote: »

100k mark is my prediction.

Jaysus! ECW December to Dismember territory!! (94,000 i think)

If it was called ECW Fatal 4 Way i think we could really see something that low, but agreed with the lads that it'd have to be at least 140,000.

I'll go for 165,000, which is kind of impressive considering how badly this PPV is suffering. I hope I'm wrong and this PPV bombs - it'd teach WWE that they can't put out any old tripe and expect a buy rate.

Spongey1975

The Bull wrote: »

Any sign of the PPV perdiction Thread ??

Gonna start it this evening, was waiting to see if there is any more matches to be added as there is only five so far

D2D

Who needs Night of Champions?? All 5 matches on the card are title matches:rolleyes: