Pub opening times 24 hours or not?

Marty McFly

Just wondering what peoples opinions are on 24 hour drinking.

Having been to few a countrys were the time of the day isnt a factor id have to say im all for it.

Reasons being 1. You dont seem to get a massive influx of drunken people all on the street at the same time which is never going to be a good idea.

2. I found I didnt nor did freinds tend to get as drunk as we werent looking at our watches going damn pubs closing in an hour get them into yeh quick, instead we just sat there drinking at a nice steady pace.


Sorry if this been done before but was just looking at anohter thread that got me thinking about it.

PK2008

Just hook it to my veins!!!!!

enda1

I'm all for it.

I think there is an inverse linear relationship between alcohol availability and alcohol related problems.

MonkeyTennis

totally in favour. We all have different lifestyles and it caters for eg people on shiftwork etc.

120_Minutes

normally i'd be all for it, but if they're gonna take away my head shops, they can **** off with their 24hr pubs.

"this taxable drug is ok, as long as you drink it" - Bill Hicks.

WindSock

Yes. I should be able to buy a drink whenever I like, and not have to have these laws forced upon me because a proportion of people can't handle their drink.

xxlily87xx

im definately all for it, and i think you right there would definately be alot less drunken people on the street at the same time and alot less work for the bouncers trying to get everyone out.

even if the off licences stayed open id be happy with that, was over in england a few weeks ago and i left the pub at about 3am with a few of my friends and we were able to go to the off licence and grab a few beers to drink in the apartment, its handy.

How Soon Is Now

At first it would more then likely be abused as people would be like OMG PUBS OPEN FOREVER DRINK DRINK DRINK!!!!

But it would calm down after awhile and more then likely it would turn out like most things in Ireland when were aloud have it we dont want it as much .

Chet Zar

Absolutely - think about it - if things were otherwise and it was suggested that we have hundreds or thousands of people converging on the streets at the one time late at night and full of booze - unable to get a taxi home for ages - it'd be deemed crazy - and yet what do we have? It's a very Irish situation the way we have it!

Smcgie

My local was serving till 5:30 the other night. Up yours alcohol haters

It would mean I would no longer be saved from being a complete mess by the bar closing but Id still be for 24 hour opening. Although eventually you do get to the point where you want to go home even if the place is still open.

When I lived in London if you ran out of drink at 4am you just go around the corner to the local 24 hour shop which served drink 24 hours a day.

Rabies

staged closing times for bars and clubs. A range of 1am-7am is good.

Apply for a licence, get it at a nice time of 3am limits.

Screw up with minors, intox, fights etc and get it knocked back and hour or so at a time until premise is forced to shut.
Do it right and get the time extended if required.

Venues will police themselves better and take care of their customers

The_Minister

24hr drinking is grand by me.

Fizman

Why just 24 hours? They should be open all the time!

/drunk

Cullen82

Picture it....

You've been out drinking in town since around 4pm - It's now 4am, You have your Laser card in hand again....You realise you've done this every Friday & Saturday for the past Month......It's Rent week

As good as they sound have to admit I'm secretly hoping these never happen :eek:

Overheal

Oh yeah 24 hour ****ing drinking - ranting and raving on the streets @ 5am in the morning. But god forbid the headshops stay open for all the hippies to stay at home glued to the couch quietly scarfing munchies.

baldbear

It would never work. Crime would increase and the eejits who can't handle there drink would make a mess of themselves. A cafe style culture that exists in other countries wouldn't work in this society. Our streets would be like rivers of vomit.

smellslikeshoes

Personally I'm not sure if using other countries as an example of 24 hour drinking is a good idea. We have a very different relationship with alcohol compared to most countries where there is 24 hour drinking.

Marty McFly

baldbear wrote: »

It would never work. Crime would increase and the eejits who can't handle there drink would make a mess of themselves. A cafe style culture that exists in other countries wouldn't work in this society. Our streets would be like rivers of vomit.

Why do you think crime would increase? I honestly think it would decrease, especially violent crime because you wouldnt have thousand of drunks all trying to get the same taxis, or all queing to get the same food. Instead youd have a steady pace of people coming and going throughout the night.

Also the eejits who cant handle there drink will make an eejit of themsleves regardless of pub opening times.

I dont know about that some of the places ive been didnt have cafe style culutres either and it worked grand. Sure just look at england its seems to be working over there, ive also found in places like england they are policed a lot better than here in ireland. The police dont really have to do anything but there presence alone seems enough of a deterrent to stop people doing anything.

enda1

smellslikeshoes wrote: »

Personally I'm not sure if using other countries as an example of 24 hour drinking is a good idea. We have a very different relationship with alcohol compared to most countries where there is 24 hour drinking.

A lot of the difference in the Irish attitude towards alcohol is perhaps because we handle it differently to our continental cousins.

Perhaps if we treated it more like the continent does, then as a society we would change our attitude?

bonerm

Wouldn't work here. Too many piss-heads per capita in Ireland spoiling it for everyone else.

Prohibition is the way go imho. Drive out the evil drug users & dealers who are ruining this country.

rossie1977

bonerm wrote: »

Prohibition is the way go imho. Drive out the evil drug users & dealers who are ruining this country.

prohibition created the evil drug users and dealers in the first place

rossie1977

luvbulmers01 wrote: »

Why do you think crime would increase? I honestly think it would decrease, especially violent crime because you wouldnt have thousand of drunks all trying to get the same taxis, or all queing to get the same food. Instead youd have a steady pace of people coming and going throughout the night.

get away with that sort of common-sense talk would you

jester77

24 hours is great, you head out and head home when you please, you can relax, enjoy your drinks without having to worry about closing times, queues for a dirty boorger or having to wait in the rain for 45 mins for a taxi while all hell breaks loose around you.

I've yet to see a fight in all my time on the Reeperbahn while 8 times out of 10 in Ireland I would see one.

Cinful

Give it a rest.

stovelid

My wife is from a small town in the West where 24-hour licensing has been operating since the 50s?

TheZohanS

Cullen82 wrote: »

Picture it....

You've been out drinking in town since around 4pm - It's now 4am, You have your Laser card in hand again....You realise you've done this every Friday & Saturday for the past Month......It's Rent week

As good as they sound have to admit I'm secretly hoping these never happen :eek:

The problem there is with poor money management, not alcohol.

PeterIanStaker

I think too many eejits/thugs/chavs would ruin it for everyone. Having said that, not being able to get offy after 10pm annoys the **** outta me I see it as pure nanny state ****e. So, maybe only a few pubs/clubs for starters on a trial period? or more late licences? or bring back late offy opening times?

Gaunty

It's worked well in England i'm told, has reduced drink related crime significantly and our drinking culture is similar to Englands. I'm all for it.

The Big Red Button

Apt username OP ...

poisonated

It would work. Maybe have the pubs/clubs which do have it over 21's.

itsallaboutheL

poisonated wrote: »

It would work. Maybe have the pubs/clubs which do have it over 21's.

Over 21s is a joke to be fair.

I'm the same twat now that i was 5 years ago. I'm just bigger and angrier.

Steodonn

They already are you just have to know the right pub

Greyfox

I think it's a superb idea. People wouldn't feel the need to get pissed as fast as possible and it would cut down on the usual 3am mayhem. Yes, people will go crazy for drink at the start but the novilty will wear off quite quickly. It's not fair that we get punished for what a small minority or idiots do. I think the currect law if very unfair on people who have to work unsociable hours also if this came in it would be much harder for nightclubs to rip us off

Sanjuro

Theoretically, yes. Unfortunately there are literally thousands of fuckwits in this country who just don't know how to drink with any sense. And then there are the others who turn into violent idiots once they're plyed with booze. If these problems can be properly tackled, then 24 hour drinking hurrah! We need a shift in our attitudes towards booze. And I don't see that happening quickly. Christ, they cant even see sense enough to bring in staggered closing times in this country.

Mimikyu

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brummytom

Living near a load of pubs with 24 hour drinking is not fun, it just means dribs and drabs of idiots roaming the streets throughout the night.

stovelid

Gaunty wrote: »

It's worked well in England i'm told, has reduced drink related crime significantly and our drinking culture is similar to Englands. I'm all for it.

All it will take here is a Joe Duffy hysteria campaign to have the politicians running for cover.

tiocimarla

Its like good friday you want it coz you are told you cant have it by mammy and daddy Government.

wanrek

In all fairness who'd go home?

prinz

I would love to see some 24 hour pubs etc, but absolutely not in Ireland anytime soon. Until personal responsibility is ingrained into the national psyche. Then and only then should 24 hour bars be considered.

120_Minutes

prinz wrote: »

I would love to see some 24 hour pubs etc, but absolutely not in Ireland anytime soon. Until personal responsibility is ingrained into the national psyche. Then and only then should 24 hour bars be considered.

so, about 2110 then?

enda1

prinz wrote: »

I would love to see some 24 hour pubs etc, but absolutely not in Ireland anytime soon. Until personal responsibility is ingrained into the national psyche. Then and only then should 24 hour bars be considered.

Ireland along with other common law countries I feel have far more personal responsibility ingrained in our societies than civil law countries such as France, Belgium etc.

There they see the state as having to care for them to provide free services like rubbish, health, education, etc. I mean think of the attitude towards dog **** you find in those countries? They feel its the cities responsibility to clean up after their dogs rather than their own!

The grass is not always greener.

prinz

120_Minutes wrote: »

so, about 2110 then?

If we're lucky

enda1 wrote: »

The grass is not always greener.

I never said it was nor compared Ireland to other legal jurisdictions. We have a serious problem in this country with regard to personal responsibility that much is certain.

enda1

prinz wrote: »

We have a serious problem in this country with regard to personal responsibility that much is certain.

I completely disagree. I think we are quite high on the list of those who take most responsibility for their actions.

Of course we are not perfect and there are problems, but serious; nah.

Snowie

24 hour drinking sounds graeat ho to be honest i dont think any one on this thread whos posted, could quite possibly manage it...

enda1

Snow-Monkey wrote: »

24 hour drinking sounds graeat ho to be honest i dont think any one on this thread whos posted, could quite possibly manage it...

Where I live there is 24 drinking. I manage quite fine thanks.

prinz

enda1 wrote: »

I completely disagree. I think we are quite high on the list of those who take most responsibility for their actions..

Our compensation culture was known worldwide. It's coming down a lot but is still prevalent.

A 1999 IBEC report on Personal Injury Compensation gave an example of an award of £12,000 to a man who cycled through a warning tape while drunk.
The same IBEC report showed that Irish workers are twice as likely to claim for injury as workers in Britain, despite us having the lowest workplace accident rate in Europe, less than half that of the U.K.

http://www.actuaries.ie/Events%20and%20Papers/Events%202003/2003-02-12_Current%20issues/2003-02-12_Effect_Society.pdf

Claim, claim claim!! It was always somebody else's fault! Hurt your toe because you weren't watching where you were going. Sue someone else!

During the late 90's and early 00's we were the second most litigious country on earth after the US. This is slowly changing but still prevalent.

Criminal defence is Irish law still seems to centre on abdicating personal responsibility as opposed to challenging the nature of the crime charged itself.

yoyo

In favour but they should review the ridiculously early off license closing times first

Nick

Snowie

enda1 wrote: »

Where I live there is 24 drinking. I manage quite fine thanks.

Gold star for you so :P

Sofiztikated

In theory, it would be a great idea. Not everyone works the 9-5 Monday - Friday, and we'd like to have a social life as well, but are limited in where we can go. It would also stop the influx of people on the streets at 3ish, with the row's in the chippers and on the streets subsiding as you wouldn't have as many drunk ****wits fighting over a boird/burger/taxi/repressed homosexuality and what not.

OT I'd also like to see drinks promotions and Happy Hour making a return, as it would force some bloody competition back into the bar trade, and **** Vintners.

BUT (And there's always a but)

We as a people? Probably not a good idea. There'd be so much ****ing havoc played in the first month of it starting that it would quickly get Joe Duffied back to where we're at now, and probably worse. I mean, Joe, he was urinating. On my bushes. What would the baby Jebus think?

While the majority of people would say to themselves (or the mirror, street lamp, or whatever inanimate object catches their eye) "Right, I'm a bit worse for wear, I should go home, maybe stop and get some chips, and sleep it off," there are quite a few about that would get to that stage, and keep on going, hell for leather, until their liver/kidneys 'splode. And then go back to the bar for a Jagerbomb.