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Nuravictus

So few questions,

Noodles are they bad, read somewhere on here they are 600 Calories a pack which is shocking

Rice Cakes, are they good or bad, have to say I am enjoying eating them plain atm but could see how they would be amazing with some sliced fruit like kiwi or strawberry

Also Cider, how bad is Cider. I drink a lot of Apple Cider (maybe 5/6 Pints) when I go out drinking. How many Calories

One thing I learned is that the calories are were you never expect them, fecking calories.

El_Dangeroso

Rice cakes are one of those nutritional trick questions. Is one low in calories? Yes, but one also weighs next to nothing, your eating mostly air and your body doesn't detect food by volume, but by nutritional content and there is almost zero nutrition in a rice cake, just the type of calories that send your blood sugar skyrocketing.

But all of these things are dose-dependant, so if you really love the odd rice cake and it will make your life considerably more miserable to live without them, then have one with some sardines on top or something to slow the digestion of the carbs a little and actually provide you with some nutrition.

In my low-fat days I loved rice cakes, I'm probably one of the few people who likes the taste of them, they taste like popcorn to me. I could polish off a packet in next to no time, but that was ok, 'cos they were fat free.:)

corkcomp

Nuravictus wrote: »

So few questions,

Noodles are they bad, read somewhere on here they are 600 Calories a pack which is shocking

Rice Cakes, are they good or bad, have to say I am enjoying eating them plain atm but could see how they would be amazing with some sliced fruit like kiwi or strawberry

Also Cider, how bad is Cider. I drink a lot of Apple Cider (maybe 5/6 Pints) when I go out drinking. How many Calories

One thing I learned is that the calories are were you never expect them, fecking calories.

bulmers has fewer calories than budweiser. if your trying to lose weight its obviously not something to be drinking, but if it fits into your calorie allowance its fine.

rice cakes are ok too if you put something with some nutritional value on them.. however tbh, they taste like cardboard - oatcakes ftw.

noodles dont even taste nice imo..

Ciaran500

Nuravictus wrote: »

Also Cider, how bad is Cider. I drink a lot of Apple Cider (maybe 5/6 Pints) when I go out drinking. How many Calories

~200 calories per 500ml so you could be having 1200 in a night.

ya-what-now?

I'd advise maybe changing to bulmers light? I changed from regular bulmers to that and don't notice the difference. Actually find the regular one a little bit too sweet now tbh.

Only problem is, is that they don't do pint bottles so it could prove a little more expensive, but hey it's not that much of a sacrifice in the long run!

Jammy

Are the light beers actually significantly lower in calories or are they just kidding us?

I usually drink budweiser, so would bud light be better then?

The alcohol is always the real killer :rolleyes:

Macha

What about Ryvita instead of rice cakes? They're low calorie, have some fibre and low carb (for the low carbers)

They have quite a range, but looking at the info suggests the Dark Rye ones are best:

http://www.ryvita.com/products/crispbread

ya-what-now?

Jammy wrote: »

Are the light beers actually significantly lower in calories or are they just kidding us?

I usually drink budweiser, so would bud light be better then?

The alcohol is always the real killer :rolleyes:

There's a bit of a difference alright, I'm doing weight watchers and know a longneck bottle of bulmers light is over half the points of a pint bottle of regular bulmers, but obv there's a difference in volume here too.

The calorific difference per 330ml of regular bulmers is 135 kcals, and for 330ml of bumers light is 92kcals.

http://www.bulmers.ie/about-us/faqs.asp

Not sure about the beers but I'd imagine it's probably much of the same!

rubadub

corkcomp wrote: »

bulmers has fewer calories than budweiser.

Bulmers light would be lower than bud, but I would expect normal bulmers is more, it is higher in alcohol 4.5% Vs 4.3% and is sweeter.

Jammy wrote: »

Are the light beers actually significantly lower in calories or are they just kidding us?

They brew light beers out until almost all the sugars are gone, like dry vs sweet wines, this is how they have fewer calories. Pilsner lagers are also brewed out fully (and better tasting!), most strong pilsners have less calories per unit alcohol than lite beers -but they will have more calories per pint, but as it is stronger you should drink less.

As the bulmers light contains sweeteners it might get you more drunk than standard bulmers, even though they are both the same 4.5%. More info in this big post. http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=57902740&postcount=10

Another one that shocks some people is that a quarter pounder burger pattie usually has around the same calories as the bun.

brianthebard

taconnol wrote: »

What about Ryvita instead of rice cakes? They're low calorie, have some fibre and low carb (for the low carbers)

They have quite a range, but looking at the info suggests the Dark Rye ones are best:

http://www.ryvita.com/products/crispbread

I dunno if you'd class them as low carb, they're 5g of carbs per 10g slice (not counting the fibre), if you eat more than one of two that will start to stack up.

corkcomp

brianthebard wrote: »

I dunno if you'd class them as low carb, they're 5g of carbs per 10g slice (not counting the fibre), if you eat more than one of two that will start to stack up.

they not low carb, for sure, but they have to be better than rice cakes. in fact anything has to be better than rice cakes

brianthebard

True. I just got excited when Tac said that and now I'm disappointed again.

El_Dangeroso

brianthebard wrote: »

True. I just got excited when Tac said that and now I'm disappointed again.

Anything is low carb if you eat little enough of it.:pac:

corkcomp

Temple_Grandin wrote: »

Anything is low carb if you eat little enough of it.:pac:

LOL! What your trying to say is that ryvita are full of air bubbles? Based on that I'm going to have a nice small square of low carb dairy milk

El_Dangeroso

I'm breathing some great low carb air at the moment.

rubadub

corkcomp wrote: »

LOL! What your trying to say is that ryvita are full of air bubbles?

Well they are pretty much full of air, they are not low carb per 100g, they are low carb per slice/cracker since they are very light, i.e. I could easily scoff 500g worth of slice pan over a full day, that would be 2 full packs of ryvita which I could not see myself eating. 4 ryvitas are 40g, 1 slice of mc cambridges bread is 38g, I usually only have 2-3 ryvitas and would see it as more substantial than 1 slice of mc-cambridges -i.e. I usually want a bread fix and it fills that spot better than a single slice of mc cambridges. There is a lot of room on them for toppings, so this would be why 2 would do me fine. I might be getting the same calories in overall but I eat loads of carbs anyway, so cut where I can.

corkcomp wrote: »

Based on that I'm going to have a nice small square of low carb dairy milk

Just look in the WW threads, rather than your dairy milk they would eat aeros, wispa, malteasers, which are literally full of air bubbles. But they look substantial to people so they enjoy them more than the same weight of dairy milk would. It works for some people. People will eat soup which they can find more filling as it is bulked out with water rather than air. The WW folks eat light crips like snacks & skips etc, again airy while appearing to be substantial.

Macha

rubadub wrote: »

Well they are pretty much full of air, they are not low carb per 100g, they are low carb per slice/cracker since they are very light, i.e. I could easily scoff 500g worth of slice pan over a full day, that would be 2 full packs of ryvita which I could not see myself eating. 4 ryvitas are 40g, 1 slice of mc cambridges bread is 38g, I usually only have 2-3 ryvitas and would see it as more substantial than 1 slice of mc-cambridges -

Doesn't fibre also come into it for counting carbs?

rubadub wrote: »

Just look in the WW threads, rather than your dairy milk they would eat aeros, wispa, malteasers, which are literally full of air bubbles. But they look substantial to people so they enjoy them more than the same weight of dairy milk would. It works for some people. People will eat soup which they can find more filling as it is bulked out with water rather than air. The WW folks eat light crips like snacks & skips etc, again airy while appearing to be substantial.

Just on this topic, there'a a great researcher called Brian Wansik who writes about Mindless Eating. He's found things like if your plate is smaller you eat less, if your glass is tall and slim, rather than short & wide you'll drink less, etc etc.

http://www.mindlesseating.org/

Khannie

taconnol wrote: »

Doesn't fibre also come into it for counting carbs?

In fact it doesn't (I was a little surprised to learn this myself). Because you can't break it down / it isn't usable as a source of energy it isn't counted in the calorie section of the nutritional information. That's my understanding anyway.

El_Dangeroso

Khannie wrote: »

In fact it doesn't (I was a little surprised to learn this myself). Because you can't break it down / it isn't usable as a source of energy it isn't counted in the calorie section of the nutritional information. That's my understanding anyway.

Fibre is weird, sometimes it provides calories, sometimes it doesn't, usually dependent on how healthy your digestive system is. I think soluble fiber can yield 1-2.5 cals per gram, but only in the form of free fatty acids (basically fat) through fermentation carried out by gut bacteria, so even if you get some energy from fibre, it can't raise your blood sugar.

Macha

Khannie wrote: »

In fact it doesn't (I was a little surprised to learn this myself). Because you can't break it down / it isn't usable as a source of energy it isn't counted in the calorie section of the nutritional information. That's my understanding anyway.

Temple_Grandin wrote: »

Fibre is weird, sometimes it provides calories, sometimes it doesn't, usually dependent on how healthy your digestive system is. I think soluble fiber can yield 1-2.5 cals per gram, but only in the form of free fatty acids (basically fat) through fermentation carried out by gut bacteria, so even if you get some energy from fibre, it can't raise your blood sugar.

Argh! It was here I read to deduct fibre from carb grams. Grr!!

El_Dangeroso

taconnol wrote: »

Argh! It was here I read to deduct fibre from carb grams. Grr!!

Only on US food, I know it's confusing! Both the EU and US have different regulations when it comes to food labeling.

Wednesdays Girl

Nuravictus wrote: »

Noodles are they bad, read somewhere on here they are 600 Calories a pack which is shocking.

Flavoured instant noodles can be very high in calories owing to the amount of fat in them i.e. Supernoodles, etc. Plain noodles that you'd add to a stir fry are often way lower. I can only describe it in Weightwatchers terms but instant flavoured noodles can be 7-8 points whereas plain noodles are only 2.5-3. Hope that helps, sorry it's a bit vague.