Jose Mourinho, the greatest football manager of all time.......

Johnny Utah

I certainly think so.

Peyton Manning

No.

Just no.

flahavaj

Certainly unquestionably the best in the world right now. Love the man so much.

He'll take the league off Barca as well if/when he goes to Madrid.

Jarren

Jose the Great -- not the greatest:rolleyes:

JPA

He's good but he annoys me.

kippy

Ah now, seriously. ALL TIME.
You're obviously about 10 or 11.

Zapp Brannigan

All time? Not yet.

At the moment? Very probable.

OPENROAD

How much has he spent at Inter?

JerryHandbag

Yeah obviously he is....since Alex Ferguson, Bill Shankly, Bobby Robson, Bob Paisley, Kenny Dalglish, Matt Busby were never quite up to his level. Dear dear me.

Nulty

When he retires we may judge...he's not done too bad so far

Xavi6

:pac:

davyjose

Archimedes wrote: »

No.

Just no.

Maybe.

Just maybe.

Peyton Manning

davyjose wrote: »

Maybe.

Just maybe.

I didn't say he couldn't be someday. I just said - right now - no. A big, fat, emphatic NO.

davyjose

Since he started managing Porto 8 seasons ago, and he has SIX leagues, and TWO champions leagues.

That is fcuking incredible, and if he continues that way, he'll easily be the greatest manager of all time.

davyjose

Archimedes wrote: »

I didn't say he couldn't be someday. I just said - right now - no. A big, fat, emphatic NO.

That's what i was saying too, tbh. it seemed like you were writing him off though.

davyjose

JerryHandbag wrote: »

Yeah obviously he is....since Bobby Robson, Kenny Dalglish, were never quite up to his level. Dear dear me.

Agreed.

JPA

What will happen him at Real Madrid? He almost can't help but play attractive football with the players they have, he cannot stifle them.

Peyton Manning

davyjose wrote: »

That's what i was saying too, tbh. it seemed like you were writing him off though.

Oh God no. I love José. He's incredible. Hate to replay what the lads on Sky say, but he really is just so efficient. He's more than capable of forging a career that could one day be referred to as the best of all time, but to say he is already after tonight is reactionary in the extreme.

abouttobebanned

Too much ego. Would hate him to be manager of man utd. He'd want busby's statue ripped down and replaced with one of him

Lukker-

abouttobebanned wrote: »

Too much ego. Would hate him to be manager of man utd. He'd want busby's statue ripped down and replaced with one of him

Don't worry he'd never go!

dreamers75

Johnny Utah wrote: »

I certainly think so.

irish forum full of english club supporting fans.

this will not end well.

Scorpion Sting

He's the best in the world now. But no way is he the greatest of all time.

flahavaj

JPA wrote: »

What will happen him at Real Madrid? He almost can't help but play attractive football with the players they have, he cannot stifle them.

No but he'll teach them to defend properly and organise them properly. They've already been more efficent than spectacular this season, Jose will just do what Pellegrino did but better. It'll be both frightening and brilliant all at once. He and Ronaldo will go down as the most reviled pairing in footballing history, much to my amusement.

JPA

flahavaj wrote: »

No but he'll teach them to defend properly and organise them properly. They've already been more efficent than spectacular this season, Jose will just do what Pellegrino did but better. It'll be both frightening and brilliant all at once. He and Ronaldo will go down as the most reviled pairing in footballing history, much to my amusement.

We'll see, but I don't know if he can make the team play with style. It'll be more a case of the players doing their natural stuff within a well organised team and hope, for his sake, it is attractive.

eZe^

flahavaj wrote: »

He'll take the league off Barca as well if/when he goes to Madrid.

Sigh, it'll be a shame if he does, because instead of the players (the same players who amassed 96 points this year, 3 less than Barca), it'll be 95% Jose who'll be revered. Potentially one of the greatest, he's a long way away from being even up there with people like SAF imo.

CorkMan

IMO Mourinho is the best manager of the best 10 years, including Capello, Pat Dolan, Ferguson, you name him.

RichTea

FFS. He's not the greatest of all time. Sky Sports want his babies but let him develop his career some more.

CorkMan

eZe^ wrote: »

Sigh, it'll be a shame if he does, because instead of the players (the same players who amassed 96 points this year, 3 less than Barca), it'll be 95% Jose who'll be revered. Potentially one of the greatest, he's a long way away from being even up there with people like SAF imo.

Well he beat United in 03/04 CL with an average Porto side, and proved himself in 3 leagues, including 2 which are considered pinnacle European Leagues. He might not have the trophies SAF has yet, but IMO he is a better manager than Ferguson was at his age, if not now.

Mr.Nice Guy

I would actually love him to get stuck into that farcical circus at Madrid. He's probably the only character that could do it and get away with it because of the force of his personality.

Diabhal Beag

He will be. He only has to go into international positions now. He has done everything at club level.

Mr. Presentable

CorkMan wrote: »

IMO Mourinho is the best manager of the best 10 years, including Capello, Pat Dolan, Ferguson, you name him.

I would agree, but he's no Brian Clough - start with nothing and become Champions of Europe when it meant something. He has a ways to go yet.

parker kent

davyjose wrote: »

Since he started managing Porto 8 seasons ago, and he has SIX leagues, and TWO champions leagues.

That is fcuking incredible, and if he continues that way, he'll easily be the greatest manager of all time.

They are the key words in that sentence, IF he continues that way. Ferguson has decades of success, Mourinho has not reached the end of his first yet. Then people like Capello, Paisley etc have achieved so much as well.

Jose needs to keep up the success and importantly, to do it at one team for a sustained period. He needs a dynasty to seal his legacy. Success in international football wouldn't go amiss either if he is to be the greatest.

DB10

parker kent wrote: »

They are the key words in that sentence, IF he continues that way. Ferguson has decades of success, Mourinho has not reached the end of his first yet. Then people like Capello, Paisley etc have achieved so much as well.

Jose needs to keep up the success and importantly, to do it at one team for a sustained period. He needs a dynasty to seal his legacy. Success in international football wouldn't go amiss either if he is to be the greatest.

Mourinho already has a better European record than Ferguson. 2 Champions Leagues, both of which with sides who are not big European clubs. He also has a Uefa Cup to his name.

wobblyknees

Johnny Utah wrote: »

I certainly think so.

Really. Born in 1992 were we? Seriously, i am a born and bred, been to actual real live football matches and thankfully, in my lifetime CL finals, Liverpool fan. Even I can admit to the fact that the following few managers acheived more, in real terms, than Moneybags Mourinho has done:

Matt Busby
Rinus Michels
Bill Shankly
Ernst Happel
Bob Paisley
Brian Clough
Alex Ferguson
Arrigo Sacchi
Jock Stein
Johan Cryuff

jesus_thats_gre

He is the best out there now and there is a very good chance that he will become one of the best ever. He has managed to combine all the skills that a manager needs to succeed with the ability to choose the right club at the right time.

CSF

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therecklessone

JerryHandbag wrote: »

Yeah obviously he is....since Alex Ferguson, Bill Shankly, Bobby Robson, Bob Paisley, Kenny Dalglish, Matt Busby were never quite up to his level. Dear dear me.

You need to expand your football horizons beyond the boundaries of the United Kingdom tbh.

tdv123

Lets not forget about Lippi either. Took Juventus to 3 champions league finals in a row, won a world cup with an aging italian team & then guided a even worse italian team to the 2010 world cup with relative ease.

jesus_thats_gre

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

I would actually love him to get stuck into that farcical circus at Madrid. He's probably the only character that could do it and get away with it because of the force of his personality.

Strange, this is the very reason that I want Rafa to stay at Liverpool. I rate him as a manager but it is his ability to cope with everything else that impresses me the most.

At the moment - Yes.

Of all time - No, just no.

Ridiculous question OP tbh.

Mr.Nice Guy

DB10 wrote: »

Mourinho already has a better European record than Ferguson. 2 Champions Leagues, both of which with sides who are not big European clubs. He also has a Uefa Cup to his name.

What about Fergie's Cup Winners Cup victory with Aberdeen?

therecklessone

wobblyknees wrote: »

Really. Born in 1992 were we? Seriously, i am a born and bred, been to actual real live football matches and thankfully, in my lifetime CL finals, Liverpool fan. Even I can admit to the fact that the following few managers acheived more, in real terms, than Moneybags Mourinho has done:

Matt Busby
Rinus Michels
Bill Shankly
Ernst Happel
Bob Paisley
Brian Clough
Alex Ferguson
Arrigo Sacchi
Jock Stein
Johan Cryuff

Can't believe nobody has mentioned Helenio Herrera, the last manager to deliver a European Cup to Inter.

This is a potential thread of the year

flahavaj

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

I would actually love him to get stuck into that farcical circus at Madrid. He's probably the only character that could do it and get away with it because of the force of his personality.

It will be absolutely fascinating. In my wildest dreams, he wins la Liga next year with Madrid, wins the CL the following year and then takes over at United with Fergie's blessing the next year.

wobblyknees

therecklessone wrote: »

Can't believe nobody has mentioned Helenio Herrera, the last manager to deliver a European Cup to Inter.

Good point, missed him off the list. I think we are on the same wave length in general though.

tdv123

therecklessone wrote: »

Can't believe nobody has mentioned Helenio Herrera, the last manager to deliver a European Cup to Inter.

It was actually Jose Mourinho who did that.

flahavaj

rarnes1 wrote: »

This is a potential thread of the year

It just needs someone to disagree with jesus thats gre's point about Rafa and BOOM we have 50+ pages before the weekend is out...:pac:

wobblyknees

flahavaj wrote: »

It will be absolutely fascinating. In my wildest dreams, he wins la Liga next year with Madrid, wins the CL the following year and then takes over at United with Fergie's blessing the next year.

Well according to rumours, Fergie is all set to become madrid manager THIS year as long as he can bring Rooney with him. :eek::eek::eek::eek:

DB10

wobblyknees wrote: »

Really. Born in 1992 were we? Seriously, i am a born and bred, been to actual real live football matches and thankfully, in my lifetime CL finals, Liverpool fan. Even I can admit to the fact that the following few managers acheived more, in real terms, than Moneybags Mourinho has done:

Matt Busby
Rinus Michels
Bill Shankly
Ernst Happel
Bob Paisley
Brian Clough
Alex Ferguson
Arrigo Sacchi
Jock Stein
Johan Cryuff

Yeah because Mourinho spent loads when he won Porto the CL? :rolleyes:

Bull**** excuse, from the same folks who hail the likes of Ferguson who wastes 90m on the likes of Berbatov,Veron,Anderson and Nani.

Yet he spends nothing does he?

JP Liz V1

There is no doubt he is great but not the greatest

wobblyknees

tdv123 wrote: »

It was actually Jose Mourinho who did that.

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