Shocking Prime Time episode on tyre dumping.

Darsad

Thought the poor guy in Kildare got an unnecessary hard time ! all he did was collect tyres and bring them to a tyre recycler . Cant see where the crime was there plus door stepping him with the camera was a bit OTT. €150 for 2 hours work fair dues to him !

yoshytoshy

Darsad wrote: »

Thought the poor guy in Kildare got an unnecessary hard time ! all he did was collect tyres and bring them to a tyre recycler . Cant see where the crime was there plus door stepping him with the camera was a bit OTT. €150 for 2 hours work fair dues to him !

I don't think they were after that guy ,it seemed they were high lighting the fact that anyone can pickup tyres and get rid of them.
What chance have we of regulation ,if anyone can claim to be a recycler.

edanto

Well if you're feeling entrepreneurial, I hear there's at least one warehouse full of tyres that you could probably get cheap!

fatherbuzcagney

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Tyres are highly inflammable and the fumes would more than likely kill off every living thing inside.

less flammable than what is been pumped into the cavities at present? If a fire starts in the cavity of any of the thousands of (grant aided) houses pumped with polystyrene and certified by the government funded sei who will take responsibility.

I cannot see how shredded tyres would be more hazardous than polystyrene , safer i would guess and would not catch fire or spread as quickly as polystyrene.

thebman

ednwireland wrote: »

loved gormleys plausible deniabilty

he must sit in his ivory tower not reading the paper and only travelling round certain parts of dublin to not realise how big a problem this is

didnt suprise me at all tbh

esp. the guy at the end who dumped the stuff on a farm and in a bog, bet he doesnt even get a fine

Wouldn't he need a car to get to a farm or bog :P

Run_to_da_hills

fatherbuzcagney wrote: »

less flammable than what is been pumped into the cavities at present? If a fire starts in the cavity of any of the thousands of (grant aided) houses pumped with polystyrene and certified by the government funded sei who will take responsibility.

I cannot see how shredded tyres would be more hazardous than polystyrene , safer i would guess and would not catch fire or spread as quickly as polystyrene.

Were you ever near / close to a blaizing tyre fire. The smoke is jet black,

fatherbuzcagney

yes i have seen tyres on fire and seen and smelled the fumes. Did you ever see a load of polystyrene on fire or smell the fumes?

If a house catches fire and is not caught in time it wouldn't make a difference whether you had the cavity filled with polystyrene bead or shredded rubber tyres. Thats the point im making.

Run_to_da_hills

fatherbuzcagney wrote: »

yes i have seen tyres on fire and seen and smelled the fumes. Did you ever see a load of polystyrene on fire or smell the fumes?

If a house catches fire and is not caught in time it wouldn't make a difference whether you had the cavity filled with polystyrene bead or shredded rubber tyres. Thats the point im making.

I am no fire expert but im sure tyre compound would burn a lot longer and fiercer than polystyrene. Going by any of the reports on the Galway or recent Worsop fires.

argosy2006

tire fire ,

argosy2006

if the cost of recycling the tyre is in cost of new one then aren't the tyre fitters ones who are responsible for hiring people with no waste permits to collect the tyres from them

pat58

whole new meaning to its made round to go round,after all us tax payers will have to pay to get rid of the stock pile of tyres.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

fatherbuzcagney

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I am no fire expert but im sure tyre compound would burn a lot longer and fiercer than polystyrene. Going by any of the reports on the Galway or recent Worsop fires.

i agree , if i had to burn one of them to keep me warm i would burn the tyre as they would throw off great heat and last longer;) if i had a choice of which one to keep the cold out i would go for the tyres as well,

i think that the old tyres could be put to better use than burying them in bogs or quarries , shipping them to Vietnam or stock piling them so as they can accidently go up in flames.

i just don't see any greater risk in having shredded rubber in the cavity of a wall over polystyrene insulation.

Atlantic Dawn

Very hard problem now to solve as if you put a return bounty on the tyres the lads with the stockpiles will become multi millionaires at the stroke of a pen.

I suppose with all things we need to do the most simplest, run a search in Google for whatever works best throughout the EU and copy that, solved, no need for 10 groups of advisors consulting the Book Of Kells for inspiration at €90,000 a week.

goat2

ei.sdraob wrote: »

Greens policy/regulation epic fail

greens policy
you can bury tyres in bogs
but
you should not cut turf

bmw535d

Winty wrote: »

I heard an Urban Legend that may well be true.

Some travellers rented a storage yard in the midlands of England and paid a deposit and the rent on time every month much to the delight of the landlord. He believed the unit would be used to store road repair equipment.

They travelled the highways and byways of England under the disguise of a legitimate waste Management Company offering cut price tyre waste disposal.

The Landlord did not receive rent for a couple of weeks and when he called around his warehouse was locked and abandoned.

When he gained access he found thousands of used tyres stored in the unit. The tenants had disappeared of the face of the earth leaving him with a massive bill to dispose of hazardous waste.

Could be true, Could happen again.

i heard a similar story, this contractor was doing a large site in London, the cost of getting rid of the landfill was huge so he rented a massive warehouse and filled it to the brim. he then went back to Ireland

nuac

I have no technical knowledge of how tyres degrade but

1. Apart from volume issues, what would be the problem about putting them into landfill such as old quarries etc - I presume nothing leaches from them?

2. Can they be ground up and used in road construction?.

In what respect have the Green gone further than EU Directives?

Bucklesman

nuac wrote: »

Apart from volume issues, what would be the problem about putting them into landfill such as old quarries etc - I presume nothing leaches from them?

Well, firstly there's the risk of fire. People called arsonists like to set things on fire for their own amusement. A quarry full of tyres is going to burn for days, releasing toxic air pollutants (dioxins, sulphurs, heavy metals) and putting people and property at risk. Two fires in the North, according to Prime Time, cost £400,000 to put out.

Secondly, there are only so many quarries and landfill sites to actually fill. According to this, Irish people go through 3 million tyres a year, and they all have to go somewhere.

Can they be ground up and used in road construction?

Yup. The system that's been set up for the re-use of old tyres includes making them into road construction materials. Heck of a lot better than dumping them in quarries for scumbags to burn.

nuac

Thanks Buclesman.