Lung capacity Q?.

arybvtcw0eolkf

A strange one maybe!.

I'd consider myself reasonably fit, and in particular fit to fight.

However I visited a different Judo club last night, its in a much smaller hall than I normally train, with little or no air moving through it (there's no doors or window openings to fresh air) - and I started to gas right from the 'get go'.

However the lads training there were grand.

I wasn't physically exhausting, just gasping for air.

I'm thinking that this might prove a good for my conditioning, my lungs will have to grow to accomodate the lack of fresh air?.

(Hope I'm explaining this correctly).

If I was to give an example, it felt like training in a hot & humid country.

So, good for conditioning?.

mushykeogh

mmmmm i dont think it the lungs will grow to accommodate. Purely because we are at sea level. The partial pressure of the oxqygen is the same as where you normally train just maybe not as much fresh air in the room. Maybe breathing frequency and tidal volume might increase,if even. You could also have had an off day?.
Even at altitude the intensity of training is significantly lower than at sea level. Its common for athletes to train at sea level and sleep or live at a higher altitude.
the idea being that you increase the hemoglobin content in the blood and increased red blood cell production from the altitude but train at max intensity at sea level. The hot and humid training adaptations would be mainly from improved cooling efficiency and fluid balance than lung capacity.

ciaran

arybvtcw0eolkf

mushykeogh wrote: »

mmmmm i dont think it the lungs will grow to accommodate. Purely because we are at sea level. The partial pressure of the oxqygen is the same as where you normally train just maybe not as much fresh air in the room. Maybe breathing frequency and tidal volume might increase,if even. You could also have had an off day?.
Even at altitude the intensity of training is significantly lower than at sea level. Its common for athletes to train at sea level and sleep or live at a higher altitude.
the idea being that you increase the hemoglobin content in the blood and increased red blood cell production from the altitude but train at max intensity at sea level. The hot and humid training adaptations would be mainly from improved cooling efficiency and fluid balance than lung capacity.

ciaran

Thanks, another detail I left out of my original post was that I've recently been diagnosed with asthma, but its not something which has bothered be in training (either in the gym, Judo or cycling).

Maybe as you said, I may have been having an off night - however it was certainly damned stressing

cc87

The asthma could definitely have affected your training, some people only have trouble training with asthma in hot or humid conditions.

the drifter

cc87 wrote: »

The asthma could definitely have affected your training, some people only have trouble training with asthma in hot or humid conditions.

+1

there is a young fella that trains with us...very fit and a very good fighter...but on hot days where the place we train heats up his asthma kicks in bad....it doesnt stop him though....his dedication is amazing... there is some machine they use...im not sure of the name of it...but he went and bought a second one just to keep in in the dojo....

brianthebard

the drifter wrote: »

+1

there is a young fella that trains with us...very fit and a very good fighter...but on hot days where the place we train heats up his asthma kicks in bad....it doesnt stop him though....his dedication is amazing... there is some machine they use...im not sure of the name of it...but he went and bought a second one just to keep in in the dojo....

Was it a nebuliser? maki you could look into a powerbreathe if you want to train your lungs directly, it should help your asthma and your general endurance abilities.

cc87

Just gonna suggest a powerbreathe myself there. heres an old thread about the powerbreathe

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055676577&highlight=powerbreathe

the drifter

brianthebard wrote: »

Was it a nebuliser? maki you could look into a powerbreathe if you want to train your lungs directly, it should help your asthma and your general endurance abilities.

yes sir it was i was going to say neutraliser but it sounded too star trekie...:D

brianthebard

Roffles I can imagine the ads now....They are handy all right, never had to use one myself from what I remember. They're expensive though, wouldn't want to have to buy one myself.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Great stuff everyone, thanks.

The asthma issue is very recent to me, after x-rays etc the doc just diagnoised asthma and I was given an inhaler but little info so you've all given me food for thought.