Streetfighter.ie Feedback

Jim

Greetings and salutations,

Feedback regarding the site. Feature wise, design wise, layout, structure, colour scheme. Anything you can think of.

Stuff down the line...
Proper Player List possibly linked to user profiles etc,
New URL with the idea of launching under a new name which isn't SF specfic (That's very down the line though)

Doctor DooM

I'd like the random interviews to be a little more in depth. (I know that's nothing to do with the site itself, but)...

What about some form of short podcast?

A section for inferno/ dragonslayer rankings?

I think the main thing at this point is more content. More regular, I go to SF.ie every day at this point and I hate when there's nothing new on it

I think those of us involved in the filming of tournaments should try and formalise it a little, how the videos are made, what channels etc. Might stream line it a bit (for example, the brianvondoom channel has some international subs that fighting games ireland doesn't. I'd rather new vids posted on fighting games for obvious reasons but then we'd lose these people).

We could then brand and intro the vids for SF.ie too, bringing more people into the community.

Also, Guile should be on the front page, standing on Bisons bleeding and twitching corpse.

Vyze

I dunno if there's a convenient way of doing it, but it'd be cool if you could click on someone's name in the player list and you could get a list of any matches they've played in that are uploaded to YouTube. Obviously the tagging would need to be done manually which could be a bit of a pain, but you could encourage people to tag themselves on the SF.ie site any time they find a video of themselves on YT!

chopperbyrne

Very good idea Vyze.

All for podcasts too. Always good fun to do and listen to.

Doctor DooM

Vyze wrote: »

I dunno if there's a convenient way of doing it, but it'd be cool if you could click on someone's name in the player list and you could get a list of any matches they've played in that are uploaded to YouTube. Obviously the tagging would need to be done manually which could be a bit of a pain, but you could encourage people to tag themselves on the SF.ie site any time they find a video of themselves on YT!

One way would be for someone to create their own playlist of themselves which they could send to one of the guys in SF.ie.


That'd mean it's up to the players themselves to maintain the playlist though.

Doctor DooM

chopperbyrne wrote: »

Very good idea Vyze.

All for podcasts too. Always good fun to do and listen to.

Yeah I have done a rake for boards in the past.

Might be fun to do one for the run in before each tournament or something.

chopperbyrne

Doctor DooM wrote: »

Yeah I have done a rake for boards in the past.

Might be fun to do one for the run in before each tournament or something.

I'd say drunkenly after a tournament would be even better.

A-Trak

chopperbyrne wrote: »

I'd say drunkenly after a tournament would be even better.

Win

Doctor DooM

chopperbyrne wrote: »

I'd say drunkenly after a tournament would be even better.

Yeah I'm not putting my macbook on a table in the bull and castle.

LIFETRAP

A non-street fighter, but fighting game related URL. But you'd probably need people to work on content for the other games. Having videos taken from the source as opposed to cameras on tripods would be better, but that's obviously something that would need to be paid for, just better quality.

Forums@boards.ie button on the top just annoys me from a design perspective cause it's so much bigger than the rest, just make it say 'Forum'. Same with player list and contact us. Players and Contact would be grand, but that's just me, obviously not that big of a deal.

I would say not having a forum on boards. But that's cause I don't like boards and it would look better if the forum stayed in the same sort of colour scheme/layout/SF.ie logo on the top as opposed to changing to the boards.ie layout and look when you click.

Have a match of the week video or something on the right, but of Irish players so people can see without having to look through the site.

A-Trak

Doctor DooM wrote: »

Yeah I'm not putting my macbook on a table in the bull and castle.

I'd totally bring my one though!

Jim

Podcasts are an excellent idea. Well planned and regular ones. Once every two weeks or once a month maybe. If anyone wants to do them I'll set up a section on the site.

The player interview things aren't really my area, although I do agree they'd be better if they were more in depth. Feel free to tell Orim to stop being ****. Although he'll probably read this anyway. Stop being **** Orim.

I half agree about the more content. You do need people coming back to the site daily, but its important not to overload the main page with stuff. More diverse content such as podcasts and videos etc will be good.

Perhaps it would be good to have a main page, with all the major news. Then have something like a "Community Content" section, where people can post up articles or features they have, such as "Chopper's Best Match Vids From The Month" and then any really high quality stuff from there can be put on the main page. I think this would be good if we had good, regular articles on this section. Another example would be if Ramza did regular youtube vid tutorials, then he could put them in this section with a text explanation etc.

LIFETRAP

If you have a news and content section you can always say if the content section has been updated in a little entry on the main page.

Jim

LIFETRAP wrote: »

A non-street fighter, but fighting game related URL. But you'd probably need people to work on content for the other games. Having videos taken from the source as opposed to cameras on tripods would be better, but that's obviously something that would need to be paid for, just better quality.

Forums@boards.ie button on the top just annoys me from a design perspective cause it's so much bigger than the rest, just make it say 'Forum'. Same with player list and contact us. Players and Contact would be grand, but that's just me, obviously not that big of a deal.

I would say not having a forum on boards. But that's cause I don't like boards and it would look better if the forum stayed in the same sort of colour scheme/layout/SF.ie logo on the top as opposed to changing to the boards.ie layout and look when you click.

Have a match of the week video or something on the right, but of Irish players so people can see without having to look through the site.

I totally agree. Having a more general URL is definitely on the cards at some point to cover other fighting games. Our own forum would be nice, although this is something we need to be careful about, as to not split the community. If the site grows to a certain size and we have a lot of people registered there / viewing it would could look into our own forums.

LIFETRAP

Jim wrote: »

I totally agree. Having a more general URL is definitely on the cards at some point to cover other fighting games. Our own forum would be nice, although this is something we need to be careful about, as to not split the community. If the site grows to a certain size and we have a lot of people registered there / viewing it would could look into our own forums.

Having more info on different games will only attract people as there are definitely people into all the other fighting games and not necessarily into SSFIV. As for the forum, I don't know how much it would split the community up because I don't know how many people in the FG forum use the other parts of boards.ie.

I know this forum is the only reason I joined boards and never look at anything else on here. But I'm sure there are people who are similar to me but also people who were probably using boards before this section appeared. I would imagine if you are really into fighting games you're gonna post/check where the most activity is.

LIFETRAP

I just noticed you have 12,0000000000000000000000 posts. You definitely were on boards before this section appeared.

Vyze

For extra content, you could maybe have a form where anybody who visits the site can add a story, and then it's down to a site admin to approve it at which point it gets added to the site. That way people can throw up a story about a new MVC3 announcement or whatever without having to given the appropriate user rights to add stuff to the site as they please and without feeling like they need to be committed to adding regular content.

I know I'd be happy to write up something every now and again during quiet periods at work, but I wouldn't want the responsibility of being relied on to write regular stuff every time something happens!

Doctor DooM

Jim wrote: »

Podcasts are an excellent idea. Well planned and regular ones. Once every two weeks or once a month maybe. If anyone wants to do them I'll set up a section on the site.

The player interview things aren't really my area, although I do agree they'd be better if they were more in depth. Feel free to tell Orim to stop being ****. Although he'll probably read this anyway. Stop being **** Orim.

I half agree about the more content. You do need people coming back to the site daily, but its important not to overload the main page with stuff. More diverse content such as podcasts and videos etc will be good.

Perhaps it would be good to have a main page, with all the major news. Then have something like a "Community Content" section, where people can post up articles or features they have, such as "Chopper's Best Match Vids From The Month" and then any really high quality stuff from there can be put on the main page. I think this would be good if we had good, regular articles on this section. Another example would be if Ramza did regular youtube vid tutorials, then he could put them in this section with a text explanation etc.

Agree content needs to be quality. Also think sudividing site may be a good idea.

It's just sometimes it takes me longer to load the page than read the interviews

So in on the podcasts. I do think they should be monthly though as do we really have enough... stuff to fill a bi weekly? I'm so in by the way.

LIFETRAP

Yeah, and stuff will be updated quicker. I'm sure most people check EventHubs, iPW, SRK and like pretty regularly so if something is announced it could be up on SF.ie pretty quickly.

Orim

The Knowing Me Knowing You section is more for profiles at the moment. I wanted to keep it relatively small and simple. I will do proper interviews with people coming up to tournaments etc

Also there has been new content everyday. Just saying. :pac:

Personally I don't see the need for a new URL. It's nice short memorable URL (it also has the nice shortened sf.ie). As long as we put content for other games then I don't see the issue.

Vyze

When you click on the Search textbox it should clear the field, rather than my having to delete the "Search" text manually.

I think bi-weekly podcasts would be too often, is there really that much to talk about?

The edit: problem with calling the site "sf.ie" when talking about it is that new people might think that's the real URL and get confused when it doesn't work!

Doctor DooM

LIFETRAP wrote: »

Having more info on different games will only attract people as there are definitely people into all the other fighting games and not necessarily into SSFIV. As for the forum, I don't know how much it would split the community up because I don't know how many people in the FG forum use the other parts of boards.ie.

I know this forum is the only reason I joined boards and never look at anything else on here. But I'm sure there are people who are similar to me but also people who were probably using boards before this section appeared. I would imagine if you are really into fighting games you're gonna post/check where the most activity is.

There's plenty of people who were just passing by who are now posters here.

Me included. I was totally out of fighting games.

Boards strength with reference to fg in Ireland is the passing trade. A forum on SF.ie could be great and highly specialised but you'd never, ever get the randomers boards will pick up. And if I did it I am sure others did too.

Doctor DooM

Orim wrote: »

Personally I don't see the need for a new URL. It's nice short memorable URL (it also has the nice shortened sf.ie). As long as we put content for other games then I don't see the issue.

We don't get rid of the old one, we use two and one redirects. Problem solved.

Orim

Doctor DooM wrote: »

We don't get rid of the old one, we use two and one redirects. Problem solved.

That's a technical way to solve the problem. But my question is What is the problem?

People have said they want a general URL. Name a URL that has the snap of streetfighter.ie? Also I believe that there isn't an Irish player base out there for other games to justify the change. It just seems pedantic and pointless to me, not to mention it being a needless expense.

Vyze I get what your saying about the shortening but people don't seem to have issues with SRK. It's a shame we can't register sf.ie.

chopperbyrne

www.fightinggames.ie doesn't appear to be registered.

A bit bland though.

Sagat06

Orim wrote: »

but people don't seem to have issues with SRK. It's a shame we can't register sf.ie.

put srk into google and you get the website, put sf.ie into it and your going to san francisco to learn english

plus I think the website is geared almost completely to street fighter. tekken blazblue mvc etc and players that are exclusive to these games would take a quick look and be gone!!

Vyze

Orim wrote: »

Vyze I get what your saying about the shortening but people don't seem to have issues with SRK. It's a shame we can't register sf.ie.

How often do people call it SRK.com as opposed to just SRK? Using a domain extension as part of the name implies that you're reading the full URL.

tickthrow.ie is probably free. Only .com and .org were taken on a search I tried a little while ago, but it didn't list .ie domains.

meducation

a podcast would be great even it was monthly or every 2 months or something..
the site is savage all the same and i think the play list for players names is a great idea,even just a link to your youtube accounts

Sagat06

I really like the new videos bar on the srk website if you could do that with a link to signed up users account

Orim

Sagat06 wrote: »

put srk into google and you get the website, put sf.ie into it and your going to san francisco to learn english

plus I think the website is geared almost completely to street fighter. tekken blazblue mvc etc and players that are exclusive to these games would take a quick look and be gone!!

Vyze wrote: »

How often do people call it SRK.com as opposed to just SRK? Using a domain extension as part of the name implies that you're reading the full URL.

tickthrow.ie is probably free. Only .com and .org were taken on a search I tried a little while ago, but it didn't list .ie domains.

tickthrow.ie is a nice one. I'd vote that if we end up changing the url.

The site being geared towards street fighter isn't going to change with a name change. The vast majority of players play street fighter. There is minimal amounts of other players. Old games like Marvel don't seem have players. The soul calibur player base has given up. Tekken players a) have zaibatsu and seem happy there / b) they are learning street fighter.

Blazblue has probably got the biggest playerbase of any non streetfighter and you can still count them on one hand.

This all opinion but I don't think I'd be far wrong.

chopperbyrne

Vyze wrote: »

How often do people call it SRK.com as opposed to just SRK? Using a domain extension as part of the name implies that you're reading the full URL.

tickthrow.ie is probably free. Only .com and .org were taken on a search I tried a little while ago, but it didn't list .ie domains.

www.srk.com is some engineering consultancy firm. www.shoryuken.com is shortened to SRK all the time, but the URL remains the original one.

LIFETRAP

Orim wrote: »

tickthrow.ie is a nice one. I'd vote that if we end up changing the url.

The site being geared towards street fighter isn't going to change with a name change. The vast majority of players play street fighter. There is minimal amounts of other players. Old games like Marvel don't seem have players. The soul calibur player base has given up. Tekken players a) have zaibatsu and seem happy there / b) they are learning street fighter.

Blazblue has probably got the biggest playerbase of any non streetfighter and you can still count them on one hand.

This all opinion but I don't think I'd be far wrong.

By your logic of Tekken players having Zaibatsu, what's the point in the Irish street fighter site when there's already SRK? It's meant to be for the Irish fighting game scene, so it should have stuff on other games. It's also a way to get other people into other games.

Doctor DooM

LIFETRAP wrote: »

By your logic of Tekken players having Zaibatsu, what's the point in the Irish street fighter site when there's already SRK? It's meant to be for the Irish fighting game scene, so it should have stuff on other games. It's also a way to get other people into other games.

I think Orim is referring to the fact that we tried with Tekken and it didn't really work out.


As it happens I agree with you though, SF will always be my game but I'd love to see other games grow.

LIFETRAP

Yeah, same here. SF will always be my favourite. But I still play BB, 3s, CVS2, MVC2, GG, TVC. It'd be cool to be able to play them offline with a group of people. I know there has been some 3s at the casuals recently. I can hardly ever make it to them cause of other stuff. Some day I'll make it down again.

Sagat06

Orim wrote: »

The site being geared towards street fighter isn't going to change with a name change. The vast majority of players play street fighter. There is minimal amounts of other players. Old games like Marvel don't seem have players. The soul calibur player base has given up. Tekken players a) have zaibatsu and seem happy there / b) they are learning street fighter.

Blazblue has probably got the biggest playerbase of any non streetfighter and you can still count them on one hand.

I think by not accomodating/acknowledging other playerbases no matter how small are we just creating an elitist community, 'you can join us as long as you play our game'?

Shouldnt the website be about catering for players who happen upon the website, rather than someone establishing themselves as a player of a game in this forum and then asking for some info to be added to the website??

Doctor DooM wrote: »

SF will always be my game but I'd love to see other games grow.

And isnt that what its all about.

Orim

Sagat06 wrote: »

Shouldnt the website be about catering for players who happen upon the website, rather than someone establishing themselves as a player of a game in this forum and then asking for some info to be added to the website??

And isnt that what its all about.

It is, I just don't see the issue with the name. As for catering for other games, I point you to the most recent point on sf.ie (:pac:) : http://streetfighter.ie/?p=334

We did our best to try and help out the tekken guys and get them involved but they don't seem to want to move over from zaibatsu. That's not our fault and I don't see how a name change is going encourage them especially since it wasn't sf.ie (:pac:) that they didn't want to get involved with but the Fighting Games forum. That's generic as hell but didn't help.

chopperbyrne

I posted on tekkenzaibatsu today to tell the guys who were playing SSFIV the past few times to integrate with us more and two people just replied saying that it's ****e.

There's no pleasing some people.

Sagat06

Orim wrote: »

I point you to the most recent point on sf.ie (:pac:) : http://streetfighter.ie/?p=334
.

D4RK ONION

Orim wrote: »

Personally I don't see the need for a new URL. It's nice short memorable URL (it also has the nice shortened sf.ie). As long as we put content for other games then I don't see the issue.

I also think that the URL is fine as is. Sure doesn't SRK have Blazblue, tekken and KoF forums? But shock horror their URL is SF related. Yes most of their traffic is SF related, but then so is ours.

Podcasts sound awesome. We could do rotations around the country and have it bi-monthly, Dublin, North, Limerick, Cork (soon!) repeat. Or two for Dublin seeing as how there's lots of ye.

Ramza

D4RK ONION wrote: »

I also think that the URL is fine as is. Sure doesn't SRK have Blazblue, tekken and KoF forums? But shock horror their URL is SF related. Yes most of their traffic is SF related, but then so is ours.

Podcasts sound awesome. We could do rotations around the country and have it bi-monthly, Dublin, North, Limerick, Cork (soon!) repeat. Or two for Dublin seeing as how there's lots of ye.

Where does Westmeath come into all of this! :pac:

D4RK ONION

That falls under Dublin right?

(Oh yes, that's right, I got to make a county joke!)

Sisko

chopperbyrne wrote: »

I posted on tekkenzaibatsu today to tell the guys who were playing SSFIV the past few times to integrate with us more and two people just replied saying that it's ****e.

There's no pleasing some people.

Can you link this?

After you left yesterday, pretty much just before everyone was leaving the 2 tekken lads that were left came over to us.

I explained everything to them, the scene, the community how we're here to help grow other fighting game scenes also and they seemed really interested, were really sound and had plenty of questions about everything.

They said they'd join us on Saturdays casuals. I told them to post on here but I guess they havnt yet.



I generally agree with Orim about just cause its called sf.ie doesn't mean we're all about sf only. I don't think the name is perfect though I'd rather something like FightingGamesIreland, FGI with a totally original logo. Something about us using capcoms font and so forth doesnt settle fully with me.

However having said that I'm pretty damn pleased with everything so far. Its not a big issue for me, just something on my mind.


As for the link saying forums @ boards.ie well we've gone through that before and its really the best option.

imo. It would be nice if boards had a green theme that matches the site though

Orim

D4RK ONION wrote: »

That falls under Dublin right?

(Oh yes, that's right, I got to make a county joke!)

Jeez I can't wait to see your group in the next tournament following that insult of Shadaloo land.

Also do people want to see a more constant stream of updates to the site?
Currently I am trying to keep it fairly relevent to our community rather then repeating every story that pops up on eventhubs, IPW or SRK. I am limiting it to more or less one update a day in order to ensure that there is always updates rather than splurges of info.

Sisko

I think your doing fine, it looks lame when sites just copy and paste info from other sites all the time.

PPC

D4RK ONION wrote: »

I also think that the URL is fine as is. Sure doesn't SRK have Blazblue, tekken and KoF forums? But shock horror their URL is SF related. Yes most of their traffic is SF related, but then so is ours.

This is why i registered streetfighter.ie, Originally i was going to register fight.ie but it was unavailable, sf is pretty much the most universally known fighting game so it kind of works as an umbrella term.

We could always do blazblue.streetfighter.ie or tekken.streetfighter.ie aswell. Would keep everything under a central easy to remember name but give diversity to the content.

Misty Chaos

If you really want to consider another url, www.fightingspirit.ie isn't registered yet either, which could be shortened to fs.ie as well.

As for the podcast, perhaps have it done in one central location but people from all over the country would send in pieces that would make up a podcast, the other idea might not work so well, tbh.

Owwmykneecap

The name change is essential. Inferno is the name we've been using for a year and I and others have been spreading it around the net.
Inferno.ie is availible I think thats a good choice and has good branding potential.

.ie or .com is another issue to discuss.

Also a forum on the site is top priority. I don't visit often because of that, rather than wait for more traffic, the forum will drive that traffic and would get around some of the limitations of boards.

Rob any good ideas from any site you find.
Try get the nothern lad to post news on it (maybe give someone posting rights) we should try unify all irish FG stuff in one place, regardless of politics, we are physically one island.

podcasts are a great idea too.


emm, probably other stuff too.
The site is looking good though so keep up the good work.

D4RK ONION

Owwmykneecap wrote: »

Also a forum on the site is top priority. I don't visit often because of that, rather than wait for more traffic, the forum will drive that traffic and would get around some of the limitations of boards.

What are these limitations you speak of? Are they worth splitting the community over?

Cause I know I only check Fighting Games as often as I do, because I've lots of other reasons to be on boards. And as DooM said, we get a good few randomers who hang out on boards who wouldn't have known this was here otherwise. Me included.

I really don't see a new forum getting as much traffic as this one.

Sisko

You are a mod though onion , you wouldn't see the limitations of free speech as being as much of an issues as others would on here.

I'm just glad your not a mod of these forums haha I can picture the banning spree lol

D4RK ONION

Sisko wrote: »

You are a mod though onion , you wouldn't see the limitations of free speech as being as much of an issues as others would on here.

I'm just glad your not a mod of these forums haha I can picture the banning spree lol

How to be a mod 101:
Outside my forums, I am a regular user like yourself. I'll get infracted (has happened twice) and banned just like anyone else here if I act the muppet.

Also, that hurts, I'm a lovely mod, I've only ever banned one person from any of my forums, and that's cause he kept saying Santa wasn't real. :mad:

Sisko

hahah you know I'd be banned instantly with my bogger jokes , sure didnt you try to mod the irc channel at one stage too, tsk tsk onion your one of those guys that goes mad with power.

haha