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I want to be a mod.
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12-05-2010 7:57pm#1Hello.
Since I became a mod, I would say that I get about two messages a month from genuine, sincere people asking me how to become a mod.
I know that usually when this question is asked on feedback it's met with a lot of sarcasm, from me as well, but I figured it couldn't do any harm to jot a quick note saying what I personally consider when I'm looking for someone to help me mod one of the forums what I mod.
This isn't supposed to be a general list, and in no way am I trying to define official policy - the views expressed herein are my own, only my own, and are not intended to be a canonical list of criteria blah de blah - this is just intended to give you an idea. I hope I don't piss anyone off by posting this.
1. You're going to need to be a fairly regular poster in the forum you want to mod.
-If I'm going to be "working" with you, I'm going to want to be as sure as possible we're going to get along. In order to do that, I'm going to need to know what you're like. I can only judge that based on your posts in the forum, so if you've never posted in the forum, no offense, but I'm not going to risk it. I don't necessarily have to agree with everything you've ever said, but look - the forum is the sum of the posters. If everyone posts on topic, the forum stays on topic. If everyone complains that the forum isn't as good as it used to be, the forum becomes a collection of whinging posts. If you generate positive content, you'll be viewed positively.
2. It would be helpful if you've reported posts from that forum.
-In my experience, there's two reasons why people want to mod. They want to help the forum they enjoy run more smoothly (95%), or they want to boss people around (5%). If it's the former, then you can do that without being a mod. Reporting posts is probably the most help you can give forum moderators, because it means that I don't have to read every single post in every single thread. Also, the more posts you report, the better idea I have of what you think is problematic posting. If you report every little thing, or use reported posts to try and shut someone up you're having an argument with, you're probably going to be too much hassle.
If you're modding a forum with me, then at the end of the day, I'm going to have to deal with the decisions you make. If you're constantly getting personal with other posters, even if they deserve it, you're going to generate loads of helpdesk and feedback threads, and I'm not really into that.
If you ask can you mod a forum with me, and you've never reported a post from that forum, I'm just going to assume that you want to be a mod for the sake of being a mod, and I'm not really into that.
3. If you've a load of infractions or bans, it's not going to happen.
Especially if you've a load of infractions or bans for personal abuse. Most of you wont believe me, but the abuse you can get as a moderator is shocking. A lot of the time, you're dealing with pure ego. Jonny Keyboardwarrior does *not* take kindly to some jumped up little bollocks like me telling him it's not cool for him to say whatever the hell he wants to say whenever he feels like it.
Billy crusader is not willing to believe that I don't have some hidden agenda for asking him to stop soapboxing, and boy, is he ready, willing and able to let me know in graphic detail exactly what he thinks.
The only way you can deal with these dudes is to report the abuse and ignore the rest. Otherwise, you're just going to generate crapstorm after crapstorm, and who needs that, right?
If you're the type of poster who has no problems derailing a thread as long as you get the last word in, then you're going to be too much hassle.
Everyone makes mistakes, and everyone changes.
I've the height of respect for someone who's unafraid to take a banning as the cost of calling someone out, but I'm not going to want to clean up after them. If your last infraction was like, six months ago, and you've been cool ever since, then it's not an issue. If you've been banned from 20 forums but "they were all forums I don't take seriously", you're not really any good to me.
Anyway, enough crap out of me. If I can find someone who ticks the above boxes, I'll feel confident enough that asking them to co-mod with me won't come back to bite me in the arse. If not, I won't. do with that advice what you will
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Just to fry your noodle tbh, I was made mod of a forum I'd never posted in or ever read much let alone reported posts in (series of unfortunate events:eek:) - it's actually worked out quite well since then.
Just saying, there are always exceptions to the rule. 0 -
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Just to fry your noodle tbh, I was made mod of a forum I'd never posted in or ever read much let alone reported posts in (series of unfortunate events:eek:) - it's actually worked out quite well since then.
Just saying, there are always exceptions to the rule.
I was made a mod because I am a crap football player.
I was the one of 17 lads in the Phoenix Park one Wednesday evening not good enough to be on a team, so they made me "manager". After a week or two, when it seemed there was actually going to be a team, and it wasn't just a laugh, we got a forum, and because I was "manager" I was nominated as "mod" of the forum.
All the other forums under my name ther are because I volunteered at one time or another to give a dig out to someone who needed a hand.
Now, though, I have a grá for those forums. I enjoy looking after them. Deleting Spam is the main thing for most of them, which in it's own little way makes the "boards experience" better for others. That's the second reason I like being a Mod.
I get a lot from Boards, I effing love the football team. I've been there since it started the very first day, and now we're winning medals. That's great. And that's because of Boards. It's because of Boards that I, and twenty other lads, go out and shout "Come on Boards" every week.
How many other Boards users get to show that kind of pride in this community on a weekly basis?.
We were on TV. That's brilliant.
The "work" I do as a mod on here is payback for that. I know that by being a mod I make the experience here better for people. Another example is the Cooking Club. I love that. I help it along the way, along with my Co-mods in that Forum. How great is that? For seventeen weeks people all over the country have been cooking the same thing and having it for dinner, then comparing notes. Great!
I also love modding the Dublin City Forum. My City, and I get to moderate the chat about it on Boards.ie. I'm a lucky man.0 -
Just to fry your noodle tbh, I was made mod of a forum I'd never posted in or ever read much let alone reported posts in (series of unfortunate events:eek:) - it's actually worked out quite well since then.
Just saying, there are always exceptions to the rule.
for sure - and no problems with that at all, but I'm just laying out my thought process if one of my co-mods steps down and I'm asked to suggest someone to take over. If I'm asked as a Cmod to forward a nomination on, my filtering process is just to make sure they don't have too many bans/infractions, I leave it to the suggesting mod to decide all the other stuff.0 -
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Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »Its a bit hit and miss with the mod selection but imo this has to be done via admins and the forum and cat mods.
I know. I'm a cat mod
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Anyway, enough crap out of me. If I can find someone who ticks the above boxes, I'll feel confident enough that asking them to co-mod with me won't come back to bite me in the arse. If not, I won't. do with that advice what you will
Okay (btw just got that whole John Lennon thing with the avatar good one) I think it could come possibly back to bite you on the arse.
You have no way of knowing how genuine the posters are. That they approached you and not the other way around I would have concerns about. Again its canvassing and its against procedure which is for admins and staff to select the mods.0 -
Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »Okay (btw just got that whole John Lennon thing with the avatar good one) I think it could come possibly back to bite you on the arse.
You have no way of knowing how genuine the posters are. That they approached you and not the other way around I would have concerns about. Again its canvassing and its against procedure which is for admins and staff to select the mods.
ok, you've got the wrong end of the stick. Sometimes people send me a message, or start feedback or helpdesk threads, asking how mods get selected.
My OP was an illustration of my thought process whenever I'm looking for someone to suggest as a mod for one of the forums I mod.
or, to put it another way,a quick note saying what I personally consider when I'm looking for someone to help me mod one of the forums what I mod. 0 -
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Join Date:Posts: 29920
There's a group of "regulars" here who are like broken records and are just continuing rows from other threads anywhere they interact.
Its got to stop and it will stop. No more sniping, no more stupid "I was just wondering" threads which are laced with agenda (SOTS, you listening?). No more snide pot-shot taking. Cut it out, this is yore ma givin' you one of *those* looks....
Back on topic. (Thanks Tom!)
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I don't know whether to take you seriously or in jest sometimes.There's a group of "regulars" here who are like broken records and are just continuing rows from other threads anywhere they interact.
Its got to stop and it will stop. No more sniping, no more stupid "I was just wondering" threads which are laced with agenda (SOTS, you listening?). No more snide pot-shot taking. Cut it out, this is yore ma givin' you one of *those* looks....
Back on topic. (Thanks Tom!)
DeV.
Anywho, SOTS is banned so unless he logged out or re-regged he can't see this, silly. :P
I do have a genuine Q, though, not a complaint or anything but just a small thing that's niggling at the back of the cranium. Are LoLth and trojan busy with other things that Zaph and Tom had to step in on the threads? (I think Dav even stepped in on one or two aswell a week or two ago?) Again, just a curious question as they're listed as the forum mods but we don't see them all that much. You may delete upon reading so it doesn't clutter the thread. 0 -
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Of course I get the fact that they're all only human and it's voluntary so real life comes first. I didn't see it odd that tom and zaph have been active on the threads. I think it's a good thing that admins arms can stretch site wide to help out when needs be. I was just curious as to how they got here before trojan or LoLth. Being nosey, basically.
The warnings were fair & clear and put out there and stood to everyone. It's pretty shít on tbh. He put in a good bit of effort into his Op and the thread and then the silly bitch fits and agendas destroyed the thread.
It cluttered it up, made those posters look silly (for want of a better word) and created extra, and most definitely not needed, extra work for admins to deal with in deleting posts, keeping an eye on the thread etc.
Anywho, I'll go venture being nosey elsewhere for a while. o/0 -
El_Ganador wrote: »Of course I get the fact that they're all only human and it's voluntary so real life comes first. I didn't see it odd that tom and zaph have been active on the threads. I think it's a good thing that admins arms can stretch site wide to help out when needs be. I was just curious as to how they got here before trojan or LoLth. Being nosey, basically.
I just happened to be around when intervention was needed, as was Tom Dunne. Nothing more to it than that really. While Trojan and LoLth may be listed as the mods for Feedback, in reality any admin can step in here, and as TD and I haven't got any specific areas of responsibility we tend to just roam the corridors of boards looking for trouble. Or something like that. 0 -
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Sharpshooter wrote: »I can only answer for AHs here, but we do communicate if we won't be around for a while.
It works well, and the rest of us know who is around re a certain time frame.
As for shift work, Rabies is generally about when the rest of us are sleeping or just being posters elsewhere.
But in general, it's when the rest of us are sleeping he is starting his day.
I haveto take my hats off to ye really cos lets face it, boards is a commercial site relying on traffic for revenue and I would imagne the largest part of that comes from AH.
So I hope you get more than a secret handshake and free access to the S&S forum, I'm assuming there's a mod swinging club tbh 0 -
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