Channels currently available on Irish DTT

Charles Slane

So what have we got at the moment?

RTE1
RTE2
Test channel (originally TV3)
TG4
RTE News
2nd Test channel

RTE Radio 1
2FM
Lyric FM
RnaG

Is this correct for all transmitters? Would it be worth keeping a sticky in order to keep track of any changes? I'd have thought the RTE digital radio stations would make a re-appearance at some stage in the future.

SRB

The channel line up should be the same at each site, it's one stream sent to them all, unless they have an "opt" facility in the system, it's not as easy to opt from "mux" if you like, as it is from the analogue TX system.

Sam Russell

Are any of the test channels in HD?

Pat Gleeson

Sam Russell wrote: »

Are any of the test channels in HD?

No, not that I know of. The PlayTV / PS3 I use automatically upscales to 720p, so I could be open to correction on this.

fat-tony

Sam Russell wrote: »

Are any of the test channels in HD?

With the exception of RTE2 (704x576) they are less than full SD resolution - all at 544x576:( Don't know why they are saving bandwidth at this stage!

christo82

When did the 2nd test channel start? has been just a testcard or has been showing anything? I've been afraid to rescan my Sony Tv since someone said the channels weren't showing up.

Charles Slane

christo82 wrote: »

When did the 2nd test channel start? has been just a testcard or has been showing anything? I've been afraid to rescan my Sony Tv since someone said the channels weren't showing up.

I'm cautious too with my Panasonic.

pa990

christo82 wrote: »

When did the 2nd test channel start? has been just a testcard or has been showing anything? I've been afraid to rescan my Sony Tv since someone said the channels weren't showing up.

It's safe to rescan with the sony's
Just do a manual scan.

I do a scan every second day.

fat-tony

christo82 wrote: »

When did the 2nd test channel start? has been just a testcard or has been showing anything? I've been afraid to rescan my Sony Tv since someone said the channels weren't showing up.

I think I saw reports of a test card last week. Since I scanned it in there hasn't been any video - only occasional clicking on the audio. On DVBviewer on the PC right now, no video or audio.

22.00 Update - there are two audio streams available! When I pick the second stream (NAR) I can get the associated test card which is colour bars overlaid with (RTENL Ath Cliath) and a set of moving black bars with an associated audio click when the bars meet in the middle of the screen. It's like a simplified version of the audio sync test used on BBC HD.

Here's a screen grab:

keithoh

Charles Slane wrote: »

I'm cautious too with my Panasonic.

There's no problem rescanning with Panasonics at present. I did a rescan last week and all channels were stored.

SRB

Lyric (I think it was Lyric) was playing the other 2nd audio stream on that channel the other day.

Mayo Exile

As TV3 is due to go on what is now RTENL1 would 3e be a possibility for RTENL2?

Sam Russell

Mayo Exile wrote: »

As TV3 is due to go on what is now RTENL1 would 3e be a possibility for RTENL2?

Or BBC 1

Charles Slane

Which is more likely - 3e or BBC1? Was there a license change recently for 3e that could facilitate it's appearance on DTT?

watty

TV3 won't be on DTT till
(a) DTT offically launches
(b) TV3 actually pay RTENL.

They don't get a free ride.

Sam Russell

TV3 refuse to pay to go on all the relay stations at present so I do not think they will be in a rush to go on DT if it involves extra fees. If 3E has to pay the same as TV3, do not expect them anytime soon either.

However BBC1 might make it onto the DTT if the MoU is implemented the way it was launched before the sticky finger marks got on to it.

watty

RTE won't put BBC R4 on DAB, vetoed by management even though those implementing DAB keen.

Who pays the Transmission, feed and royalty costs for BBC on DTT? BBC won't. UK Government won't.

Sam Russell

watty wrote: »

Who pays the Transmission, feed and royalty costs for BBC on DTT? BBC won't. UK Government won't.

That is not clear, because it was not discussed, but I would have expected that from the wording of the MoU, the costs would be bourne where they lay. That is, for BBC broacasts on Irish DTT, no royalty would be paid, carriage costs would be bourne by RTE, with recipricol arrangements applying for NI. If it was a straight commercial arrangement, why have a MoU?

Clearly, the sticky finger marks were left by others who thought differently.

Charles Slane

Sam Russell wrote: »

TV3 refuse to pay to go on all the relay stations at present so I do not think they will be in a rush to go on DT if it involves extra fees.

I'd have thought there would be some kind of "must carry" status?

Sam Russell

Charles Slane wrote: »

I'd have thought there would be some kind of "must carry" status?

And a 'must pay' status as well.

watty

TV3 are obligated to arrange carriage and have full coverage. They to date have only partially done this, claiming RTENL is charging too much. This claim is nonsense. TV3 are actually technically in breach of licence but are getting slack as they claim they are negotiating.

The same will apply to Digital. The onus is on TV3 to have national coverage.

The onus is on RTENL to give them it at sustainable commercial rate. RTENL would be in trouble if they subsidized TV3.

Charles Slane

RTE Radio 1 Extra has reappeared, but with EPG data for RTE Radio 1 and no audio.

Might this see the return of all the RTE digital radio stations?

GeneHunt

Mayo Exile wrote: »

As TV3 is due to go on what is now RTENL1 would 3e be a possibility for RTENL2?

or Oireachtas TV?:(

The Cush

GeneHunt wrote: »

or Oireachtas TV?:(

or a DTT promo/information channel?

SRB

That would be the most logical step, a DTT Promo channel. (I see the RTE NL 1 Test Card has had another tweak and now says "TDT - DTT"...)

sesswhat

SRB wrote: »

That would be the most logical step, a DTT Promo channel.

Preferably with some HD content?

SRB

RTE Radio 1 Extra has appeared.....

pa990

sesswhat wrote: »

Preferably with some HD content?

+1

GeneHunt

Television Stations
RTE1
RTE2
TG4
RTE News Now
RTENL1 (Test channel - Originally TV3)
RTENL2 (Test channel)

Radio Stations
RTE Radio 1
RTE Radio 1 Extra
RTE 2FM
RTE Lyric FM
RTE RnaG

Is this correct?

The Cush

SRB wrote: »

That would be the most logical step, a DTT Promo channel. (I see the RTE NL 1 Test Card has had another tweak and now says "TDT - DTT"...)

TDT - DTT = Teilifís Digiteach Trastíre - Digital Terrestrial Television

The captions in Irish appeared this date one month ago initally as Tarchur Digiteach (Digital Transmission) and few days later changed to Digiteach (Digital).

Charles Slane

GeneHunt wrote: »

Television Stations
RTE1
RTE2
TG4
RTE News Now
RTENL1 (Test channel - Originally TV3)
RTENL2 (Test channel)

Radio Stations
RTE Radio 1
RTE Radio 1 Extra
RTE 2FM
RTE Lyric FM
RTE RnaG

Is this correct?

Yep, that's right at the moment.

Charles Slane

RTE Radio One Extra now has audio, but seems to be just replicating RTE Radio One.

And as pointed out in other threads, RTENL 2 is now high definition.

Mayo Exile

Charles Slane wrote: »

RTE Radio One Extra now has audio, but seems to be just replicating RTE Radio One.

Different programme to Radio 1 on it at the moment, even though the EPG for R1 Extra is listing the same programme as Radio 1. (John Creedon Show).

According to the online schedule for Extra its been a collection of R1 programmes since 7pm.

R1 Extra Schedule

glimmerman123

RTE NL 2 test card has gone the screen is blank but still relaying Lyric fm as audio.

Mr McBoatface

glimmerman123 wrote: »

RTE NL 2 test card has gone the screen is blank but still relaying Lyric fm as audio.

Just checked mine and I'm still getting the test card, well a HD video test card http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=65991795&postcount=675

Souriau

glimmerman123 wrote: »

RTE NL 2 test card has gone the screen is blank but still relaying Lyric fm as audio.

It could be your TV is not HD compatible as I am still receiving a colour test card with HD 1080i and duel audio

glimmerman123

Souriau wrote: »

It could be your TV is not HD compatible as I am still receiving a colour test card with HD 1080i and duel audio

I was receiving the test card for RTENL Test 2 up to a couple of days ago. I have a HD TV and a Sky Plus HD box and that works fine. The box i am using for RTE DTT is a Sky Line STB 40 which i bought of ebay. It' not a HD box. I am picking up RTE DTT from Maghera with a very good signal and with all other channels working fine.

Souriau

Quote:
Originally Posted by Souriau
It could be your TV is not HD compatible as I am still receiving a colour test card with HD 1080i and duel audio

glimmerman123 wrote: »

I was receiving the test card for RTENL Test 2 up to a couple of days ago. I have a HD TV and a Sky Plus HD box and that works fine. The box i am using for RTE DTT is a Sky Line STB 40 which i bought of ebay. It' not a HD box. I am picking up RTE DTT from Maghera with a very good signal and with all other channels working fine.

Sorry, I thought you have a MPEG-4 Digital TV. Then it is your STB for your RTE digital. HD start transmitting on RTENL2 a few days back and before that it was SD.
I assume your box can not accept 1080i over the air to your Sky Line STB40

Martin_F

Similar problem on my Sagem Picnic box - Lyric + black screen. My Samsung HD TV is showing the 1080i test card loud and clear.

parasite

it's not a problem with your tv, the testcard on both rtenl channels just intermittently disappears

Apogee

The RTÉNL2 testcard is now transmitting in 1440x1088 resolution. It won't display on the Sagem and Skyline boxes, because they are MPEG4 SD boxes and are not MPEG4 HD compatible.

glimmerman123

I wonder will their be any HD channels on RTE DTT when it launches or will it be a few years before we see any HD Channels on the service? I will upgrade to a new HD box when HD channels start to launch.

Sponge Bob

I can see the RTENL2 HD test card from Maghera. I have a Net gem HD DTT box and an SD telly BTW.

Roll on the world cup in HD lads

bob11

Hi Guys,

Got 2 Panasonic TVs displaying all the Test channels , including the very exciting HD test channel .....

A question for ye ... Is there any way of telling what resolution is being broadcast from a standard Panasonic TV , or are ye using PC based DTT cards to work this out ?

Just worked out today how to switch between the dual audio channels using the Option Button :-))

MustangMick

Updated my Panasonic P42G10B
No problem at all receiveing the new channels.

Mick

Mr McBoatface

I receiving 5 extra radio channels so now it's

Television Stations
RTE1
RTE2
TG4
RTE News Now
RTENL1 (Test channel - Originally TV3)
RTENL2 (Test channel)

Radio Stations
RTE Radio 1
RTE Radio 1 Extra
RTE 2FM
RTE Lyric FM
RTE RnaG
RTE Pulse
2XM
Choice
Gold
Junior

glimmerman123

There seems to be a lot of activity happening today with the RTE DAB stations been added and no audio on RTE News Now at the moment. Also epg information for RTENL1,RTENL2 tests and RTE News Now have disappeared.

Charles Slane

The changes seem to have had a bad effect on my Panasonic. No sound on RTE1 and the channel won't change from RTENL2 using the channel up and down button.... meanwhile the Playstation Play TV seems to be taking it in it's stride.

Charles Slane

Spoke too soon. Someone had been over-eager with the remote control and deleted channels etc. A re-scan set everything right.

Mr McBoatface

Those newly added radio stations have had their names updated . The current line up with the names corrected to reflect EPG are :-

Television Stations
RTÉ1
RTÉ2
TG 4
RTÉ News Now
RTÉNL 1 (Test channel - Originally TV3)
RTÉNL 2 (HD-Test channel)

Radio Stations
RTÉ Radio 1
RTÉ Radio 1 Extra
RTÉ 2FM
RTÉ Lyric FM
RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta
RTÉ Pulse
RTÉ 2XM
RTÉ Choice
RTÉ Gold
RTÉ Chill/RTÉ Junior

BuzzG

Anyone else seeing lip sync issues? Sound seems to be out of sync with the pics.