Getting Discount From McGuirks

Gophur

I would hazard a guess the likes of those stores are operating on margins of 30-40%, and have room to manoeuvre, despite what they might say.

Tell them what you want, and tell them you will do the deal, there and then, if they play ball, and you are prepared to walk.

I was looking at clubs a few years back, in McG Blanchardstown. Assistant was no help top me whatsoever. Clubs were in the region of €300 for a set of irons.

I went home, club-less, and bought the same clubs, brand new, from eBay, for £99.00. Still have them, Wilson Fat Shaft, and find them great.

Mister Sifter

Gophur wrote: »

I would hazard a guess the likes of those stores are operating on margins of 30-40%, and have room to manoeuvre, despite what they might say.

Not a chance. The mnaufacturers are notoriously tight when it comes to selling stock to shops. I'd imagine that on a set of the latest Titleist irons a shop may make in the region of 20-30 euro depending on the store.

Speak to any golf retailer and they'll tell you, it's the clothing/shoes side of the business that has the bigger margins. It's here they may make their 30-40% margin.

They make their money when a guy walks in and buys a new driver and then picks up a t-shirt or jumper while he's there.

Gophur

Mister Sifter wrote: »

Not a chance. The mnaufacturers are notoriously tight when it comes to selling stock to shops. I'd imagine that on a set of the latest Titleist irons a shop may make in the region of 20-30 euro depending on the store.

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There's no way it is economically viable to sell products like that on a 5% margin. Manufacturers cannot set the Selling price.

Stores may say it to you , but I wouldn't believe it.

GorHugh

Gophur wrote: »

There's no way it is economically viable to sell products like that on a 5% margin. Manufacturers cannot set the Selling price.

Stores may say it to you , but I wouldn't believe it.

Margin is a lot more then 5% ... I was Mcguirks in Blanch last year Taylormade Burner Drivers were reduced to E159 , I left with one for E110 , I know the lad who sold it to me , but there's not a chance in hell he would sell it for anything less then cost price ...

I buy the prizes for my Society for all the outings and margins are well above 30/40% ...

Having said that , I was in Halpenny golf in Drogheda and was very impressed with their prices .

Mister Sifter

GorHugh wrote: »

Margin is a lot more then 5% ... I was Mcguirks in Blanch last year Taylormade Burner Drivers were reduced to E159 , I left with one for E110 , I know the lad who sold it to me , but there's not a chance in hell he would sell it for anything less then cost price ...

I buy the prizes for my Society for all the outings and margins are well above 30/40% ...

Having said that , I was in Halpenny golf in Drogheda and was very impressed with their prices .

Go in this weekend and try getting them to budge on the price of the new R9 Supertri. They won't/can't do it as there is no margin. Not even the discount shops online can do it as the prices charged by Taylor Made are so high.

The reason McGuirks could slash the price of the Burner driver you bought is that McGuirks most likely bought a huge batch from Taylor Made at a reduced price as Taylor Made looked to clear their stock ahead of the release of their next model.

All the big companies are the same. They hold so much power and are a nightmare to deal with. Ask any golf retailer.

Again, retailers don't make near as much as you think they do off of clubs.

stumpypeeps

Mister Sifter wrote: »

Go in this weekend and try getting them to budge on the price of the new R9 Supertri. They won't/can't do it as there is no margin. Not even the discount shops online can do it as the prices charged by Taylor Made are so high.

The reason McGuirks could slash the price of the Burner driver you bought is that McGuirks most likely bought a huge batch from Taylor Made at a reduced price as Taylor Made looked to clear their stock ahead of the release of their next model.

All the big companies are the same. They hold so much power and are a nightmare to deal with. Ask any golf retailer.

Again, retailers don't make near as much as you think they do off of clubs.

I really find that hard to believe. The numbers of staff and location of their stores suggests their making a decent return on all their products. How could they let 2009 Cleveland Launchers off at €60 when they were €100 last year. I can't imagine their selling them at a loss?

GorHugh

Mister Sifter wrote: »

Go in this weekend and try getting them to budge on the price of the new R9 Supertri. They won't/can't do it as there is no margin. Not even the discount shops online can do it as the prices charged by Taylor Made are so high.

The reason McGuirks could slash the price of the Burner driver you bought is that McGuirks most likely bought a huge batch from Taylor Made at a reduced price as Taylor Made looked to clear their stock ahead of the release of their next model.

All the big companies are the same. They hold so much power and are a nightmare to deal with. Ask any golf retailer.

Again, retailers don't make near as much as you think they do off of clubs.

I've no doubt that are price restriction on certain driver's .. But not on all clubs all the time .

A little hint i was given when it comes to prices on clubs in McG's , When you look at the big price tags on the bags where the clubs are held ,Check If the price is printed in green ink , if it is there is room to negotiate , If it's printed in Red ink there is no room to move on it ..

No way . shops would but in a ****e load of clubs with just a 5% margin on them !!!!

Gophur

Mister Sifter wrote: »

Go in this weekend and try getting them to budge on the price of the new R9 Supertri. They won't/can't do it as there is no margin. Not even the discount shops online can do it as the prices charged by Taylor Made are so high.

The reason McGuirks could slash the price of the Burner driver you bought is that McGuirks most likely bought a huge batch from Taylor Made at a reduced price as Taylor Made looked to clear their stock ahead of the release of their next model.

All the big companies are the same. They hold so much power and are a nightmare to deal with. Ask any golf retailer.

Again, retailers don't make near as much as you think they do off of clubs.

If that is the case then they shouldn't be retailing the products. Retailers can put as much margin as they like on the clubs, BTW, the manufacturers cannot set the selling price.

As an aside, I was in McGuirks Blanchardstown today. They have COBRA CALLAWAY and WILSON iron sets only. A very poor set of options.

Mister Sifter

Gophur wrote: »

If that is the case then they shouldn't be retailing the products. Retailers can put as much margin as they like on the clubs, BTW, the manufacturers cannot set the selling price.

I'm well aware that the manufacturers can't set the price. I never said they did. What i am saying is that the top tier manufacturers are notoriously difficult to get 'deals' out of. Titleist don't budge on their stock prices.

Sure, McGuirks could buy a set of Titleist irons from Titleist at 499 and stick a huge margin on them, but to what end? If i see them at 699 in McGuirks i'll simply come home and buy them onlin at 529 from an online retailer.

Stumpypeeps - ive already answered why they can sell 2009 Cleveland Launchers off at €60 when they were €100 last year. It's all to do with the price that they buy the clubs from Cleveland at. That changes during the lifespan of the product.

GorHugh

Gophur wrote: »

If that is the case then they shouldn't be retailing the products. Retailers can put as much margin as they like on the clubs, BTW, the manufacturers cannot set the selling price.

As an aside, I was in McGuirks Blanchardstown today. They have COBRA CALLAWAY and WILSON iron sets only. A very poor set of options.

Unless i've read this wrong you must be 1 of 2 things

1. lying .
2. Blind as a bat ,

I was in there 2day getting prizes for our society's outing 2moro , I held and swung Taylormade burner and R9 irons ( down the back on the right hand side ) . They also had Mizuno iron sets , Titleist irons .????

Bradz213

Hi, didn't want to start a new thread for this so posted here.

I've started playing golf about 2 years ago but want to play more regularly this year. The clubs i use are old and not all from te same set so this effects my game. Im looking to buy my first set. I don't expect to ever be better than a mid to high handicap. I was hopping to get best part of a full set (irons 5-SW, driver and a hybrid) for about €450-500. Any recommendations on clubs/where to buy them for someone like me?

Thanks in advance

dan_ep82

I'm sure for that money you could squeeze in a set of irons and a driver with fitting in either Halpenny and McGuirks but I don't think buy the driver and irons, let alone the hybrid together are possible unless you buy on the cheaper side.

Might be worth going to get a fitting (€40) in McGuirks to find a club that suits you best then buy a second hand set off adverts. You may have to pick up last years model of the club but generally they're very similar with inly minor tweaking.. You'll save a big chunk of money and if you buy the right ones the clubs will be in really good condition.

Norfolk Enchants_

Bradz213 wrote: »

Hi, didn't want to start a new thread for this so posted here.

I've started playing golf about 2 years ago but want to play more regularly this year. The clubs i use are old and not all from te same set so this effects my game. Im looking to buy my first set. I don't expect to ever be better than a mid to high handicap. I was hopping to get best part of a full set (irons 5-SW, driver and a hybrid) for about €450-500. Any recommendations on clubs/where to buy them for someone like me?

Thanks in advance

Buying new gear is a mugs game, buy 2nd hand from adverts, donedeal or golfbidder.co.uk you'll get way more bang for your buck.
Buy clubs that are 4/5 years old, you'll still get quaility with all the top brands like Titleist, Mizuno etc. and easily get what you want for your budget and will have money to spare if you shop right.
There has been near to zero improvements in equipment in the last 20 years, just new marketing techniques to get us to part with out hard earned.

Rippeditup

Gophur wrote: »

I would hazard a guess the likes of those stores are operating on margins of 30-40%, and have room to manoeuvre, despite what they might say.

Tell them what you want, and tell them you will do the deal, there and then, if they play ball, and you are prepared to walk.

I was looking at clubs a few years back, in McG Blanchardstown. Assistant was no help top me whatsoever. Clubs were in the region of €300 for a set of irons.

I went home, club-less, and bought the same clubs, brand new, from eBay, for £99.00. Still have them, Wilson Fat Shaft, and find them great.

Take it from someone who worked in these stores when in college they do not have high margins on clubs.. The money is made on the clothes so they tend to do better deals when clothes are involved (or in McGuirks golfs case John is about as he seems to give the stuff away sometimes) They also get deals on expiring clubs (when new ones are coming) and they buy massive bulk buys which offers free stock on top of the order but margins are tight and sometimes below cost for top clubs.

golfguy1

Dont know why op assumes he should get discount from any golf store.
Above poster is correct in saying margins on all hardware is between 5-10%.
Wonder why it seems its only golf shops that people expect discount never seen anybodody ask tesco, pubs, restaurants for discount when buying products.

dan_ep82

golfguy1 wrote: »

Dont know why op assumes he should get discount from any golf store.
Above poster is correct in saying margins on all hardware is between 5-10%.
Wonder why it seems its only golf shops that people expect discount never seen anybodody ask tesco, pubs, restaurants for discount when buying products.

Maybe because of the sales they have on from time to time?
I know Tesco and other places have it to an extent but some of the sales give a huge reduction.

When I was in in the pre Christmas sale some of the irons had 80-120 knocked off. Not on all of course but it would still lead you to believe that the mark up was quite a bit.

golfguy1

dan_ep82 wrote: »

Maybe because of the sales they have on from time to time?
I know Tesco and other places have it to an extent but some of the sales give a huge reduction.

When I was in in the pre Christmas sale some of the irons had 80-120 knocked off. Not on all of course but it would still lead you to believe that the mark up was quite a bit.

My question is why only golf shops? Ive seen people haggle on the price of a €10 sleeve of balls.
Never seen anyone haggle at any supermarkets, pubs restaurants and im pretty sure they have a healthy mark-up on their products.

FixdePitchmark

golfguy1 wrote: »

My question is why only golf shops? Ive seen people haggle on the price of a €10 sleeve of balls.
Never seen anyone haggle at any supermarkets, pubs restaurants and im pretty sure they have a healthy mark-up on their products.

Mcguirks set the tone with that - it was known around Dublin " That he will do you a deal"

Obviously he would mark up stuff with large margin - then your man would get a deal and tell all his friends. Everybody happy.

If a retailer can't get a feel for the tone of the market - frankly he shouldn't be in retail.

shane 007

golfguy1 wrote: »

My question is why only golf shops? Ive seen people haggle on the price of a €10 sleeve of balls.
Never seen anyone haggle at any supermarkets, pubs restaurants and im pretty sure they have a healthy mark-up on their products.

I tried to haggle with Tesco's over a 12 pack of sausages and a litre of milk. They checkout girl didn't have the authority to ok any deal. Had to wait for an available manager. The whole thing was very stressful. In the end we agreed on a 5 cent discount for the milk but he wouldn't budge on the sausages.

:-)

Carpo86

golfguy1 wrote: »

My question is why only golf shops? Ive seen people haggle on the price of a €10 sleeve of balls.
Never seen anyone haggle at any supermarkets, pubs restaurants and im pretty sure they have a healthy mark-up on their products.

It's to do with the turnover of goods. As a general rule if the seller is turning over goods at a quick rate (supermarkets and pubs being obvious examples) you don't really have any haggle room.

By contrast, if you're dealing with a situation where the seller is turning over goods at a much slower rate (but usually at a much higher per unit price) you have more room to haggle. You should almost always haggle when buying a house or car for instance.

golfguy1

Not sure what speed of turnover has to do with it. Surely it comes down to profit margin as to whether the retailer has a better price if u haggle. I kow for a fact that margin on meals in restaurants is dramatically higher than golf equipment.
Never seen a woman ask for discount in a ladies boutique and they deal on 200-300% margin.

dan_ep82

golfguy1 wrote: »

Not sure what speed of turnover has to do with it. Surely it comes down to profit margin as to whether the retailer has a better price if u haggle. I kow for a fact that margin on meals in restaurants is dramatically higher than golf equipment.
Never seen a woman ask for discount in a ladies boutique and they deal on 200-300% margin.

Most people won't try to haggle for those kinds of products as generally you'll never get it. With the golf stores, even if its only a fraction off, you can get something reduced more often than not.

Also, when a boutique has a sale , say 30% off a certain line, they keep it going until the stock is gone.

With the golf stores they have a 30% sale in October. Back up to retail in November then back to -30% in December on the same line. Also, if you watch Halpenny and McGuirks, if one has a sale the other has one an hour later, with 5% more off or lasting longer. I doubt you'd see Penny's and Dunnes stores doing the same.

And as above, not many people will haggle over a €20 pair of jeans from penny's, but if the jeans were €200 I bet you they wouldn't sell as many, unless of course they said they might do you a deal, making it feel like your getting something cheaper than others.

JIdontknow

Just saw in Irish golf world newspaper add for mcguirks and €20 off next purchase over €100, said I would share it with ye, promo code is "IGW20" says enter at checkout and offer valid until 31st march.

BigChap1759

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Mcguirks set the tone with that - it was known around Dublin " That he will do you a deal"

Obviously he would mark up stuff with large margin - then your man would get a deal and tell all his friends. Everybody happy.

If a retailer can't get a feel for the tone of the market - frankly he shouldn't be in retail.

This is exactly the reason - they used to have signs all over the shop saying "ask for best price"

Always get at least 10% off, sometimes a bit more

ryaner777

Remember halpeeny offer a minimum discount of 12.5% if you're insured with AXA.

Just bring in your AXA card or policy number.

And it includes items that are already discounted.

millerj

ryaner777 wrote: »

Remember halpeeny offer a minimum discount of 12.5% if you're insured with AXA.

Just bring in your AXA card or policy number.

And it includes items that are already discounted.

Thanks for that. My wife's car is insured with AXA and was never aware of this. Will definitely make use of this.

Bradz213

dan_ep82 wrote: »

I'm sure for that money you could squeeze in a set of irons and a driver with fitting in either Halpenny and McGuirks but I don't think buy the driver and irons, let alone the hybrid together are possible unless you buy on the cheaper side.

Might be worth going to get a fitting (€40) in McGuirks to find a club that suits you best then buy a second hand set off adverts. You may have to pick up last years model of the club but generally they're very similar with inly minor tweaking.. You'll save a big chunk of money and if you buy the right ones the clubs will be in really good condition.

Norfolk Enchants_ wrote: »

Buying new gear is a mugs game, buy 2nd hand from adverts, donedeal or golfbidder.co.uk you'll get way more bang for your buck.
Buy clubs that are 4/5 years old, you'll still get quaility with all the top brands like Titleist, Mizuno etc. and easily get what you want for your budget and will have money to spare if you shop right.
There has been near to zero improvements in equipment in the last 20 years, just new marketing techniques to get us to part with out hard earned.

Thanks for the response guys. I done a bit of research and got a second hand set of Wilson DI9 irons.