Willie O'Dea searches for Dublin road.

Raiser

The Willie O'Dea fiasco is lurching and staggering to a new low with the revelations that despite showing an renewed appetite for ringing doorbells and doing God knows what for People in "Clinics" in the Spotted Dog Pub, Willie doesn't seemed to be bothered to attend his place of work in the Dail?

Does this mean that he isn't drawing the salary and can we then conclude that he doesn't intend to collect his pension?

- This has to be the worst ever token PR-spun pseudo-resignation, where you subsequently mock your poor Constituents in the history of our sorry little State.

Kess73

Oh well, at least it means the amount that he does for Limerick in the Dail won't change.:rolleyes:

badboyblast

Willie O dea does a lot of good things for families all over Limerick and has in the past.

Kess73

badboyblast wrote: »

Willie O dea does a lot of good things for families all over Limerick and has in the past.

Yep he looks after the big issues like helping people get medical cards that they are already entitled to.

RonMexico

badboyblast wrote: »

Willie O dea does a lot of good things for families all over Limerick and has in the past.

So do the Samaritans. Guess which one has the huge wages and ridiculous pension?

Raiser

badboyblast wrote: »

Willie O dea does a lot of good things for families all over Limerick and has in the past.

Kess73 wrote: »

Yep he looks after the big issues like helping people get medical cards that they are already entitled to.

Eire - A Country where if you want to secure your Social Welfare entitlements or guarantee your Nephew a job for life with the Council then you have to go queue in the Local Pub to be granted an audience with the local Politician who through a series of elbowings, nods, smiles and winks will see that you are sorted.

- All you have to do is then become their faithful, devoted Servant and stand up for them in Public no matter how many times they publicly shame themselves and prove their actual worth.

Its 2010AD BTW - Grow up, open your eyes and learn the basic difference between right and wrong.

If he is a Hero in your eyes only because of what he has done for you and yours personally then by all means keep your "Hero" - We don't fcuking want him......

baza1976

Raiser wrote: »

Eire - A Country where if you want to secure your Social Welfare entitlements or guarantee your Nephew a job for life with the Council then you have to go queue in the Local Pub to be granted an audience with the local Politician who through a series of elbowings, nods, smiles and winks will see that you are sorted.

- All you have to do is then become their faithful, devoted Servant and stand up for them in Public no matter how many times they publicly shame themselves and prove their actual worth.

Its 2010AD BTW - Grow up, open your eyes and learn the basic difference between right and wrong.

If he is a Hero in your eyes only because of what he has done for you and yours personally then by all means keep your "Hero" - We don't fcuking want him......

Do you think there is a difference between politicians???? They are all the same... No matter what party they belong too. There isn't even such thing as an independant these days. when someone states they are independant "vote for me", then they get n and align themselves with one of the major parties!!!:rolleyes:
Sure willie has his faults, but he was at the cabinet table representing limerick, now there is no one at the table and it is limerick who will suffer. Don't drag up the dell thing , as everyone knew that dell was on the way out long before it was offical. I don't care what party the they are from we need someone at that table.

So what if he got medical cards for people or gave referencs for jobs, that's what people wanted and he helped them. He listened to people at every opportunity. So what if he went to local pubs and chatted to the common person??? Maybe more politicians should try and come to the common people, sit down and listen to the common man. Sometimes it's enough to listen to peoples issues and give a sympathic ear.

Do you seriously believe that you are more intelligent then the 1000s of people who have without fail voted for him.

IMHO you seem to have a personal issue with the man

I don't care what party they are from we need someone at that table.

munstergirl

Limerick search & rescue do a lot for limerick, they don't get paid €100,000 a year.

Limerick has also the highest percent of council houses, will willie get me a house if i ask?

Limerick has one of the highest rate of unemployment in the country 22,000 +
Limerick has one of the longest waits for the dole, 10 weeks +

Limerick has the most beautiful city river, king johns, peoples park, nothing to do with willy.

I still don't know what willy has done for limerick, besides get people medical cards, favours and go to funerals.

Willie is an intelligent man with all his degrees, pity he doesn't use them for the good of limerick.

osarusan

baza1976 wrote: »

but he was at the cabinet table representing limerick, now there is no one at the table and it is limerick who will suffer.

What's going to go wrong that wouldn't have gone wrong if auld Willie was still there to represent us?

Raiser

baza1976 wrote: »

Do you think there is a difference between politicians???? They are all the same... No matter what party they belong too. There isn't even such thing as an independant these days. when someone states they are independant "vote for me", then they get n and align themselves with one of the major parties!!!:rolleyes:
Sure willie has his faults, but he was at the cabinet table representing limerick, now there is no one at the table and it is limerick who will suffer. Don't drag up the dell thing , as everyone knew that dell was on the way out long before it was offical. I don't care what party the they are from we need someone at that table.

So what if he got medical cards for people or gave referencs for jobs, that's what people wanted and he helped them. He listened to people at every opportunity. So what if he went to local pubs and chatted to the common person??? Maybe more politicians should try and come to the common people, sit down and listen to the common man. Sometimes it's enough to listen to peoples issues and give a sympathic ear.

Do you seriously believe that you are more intelligent then the 1000s of people who have without fail voted for him.

IMHO you seem to have a personal issue with the man

I don't care what party they are from we need someone at that table.

Did you even read the opening Post?

- He doesn't even bother to go to fcuking work!!!!!!!!

When they are all "at the table" Willie O'Dea is walking posturing laps of Limerick pretending he is a Man of the People.....

mysterious

Instead of Limerick people complaining about Willie O Dea, what has any of you done for this city?

Seriously stop deluding yourselves "as in you all"

What have you done to make this city a better place? Besides voting which is for shills and fools. People who vote politicians in, deserve the kind of slavery they bargained for.

If you want to make a place a better place. You get off your "ass" and do "something" to make it a better place. Why don't you organise a community in your area to improve your area. Bring a community spirit to your surroundings? Why don't you organise a picking up litter day in your estate. It's may now, you should be all planting flowers and trees at roadsides. Go to council meetings and submit your "views" for this city. Do some fundraising events even. The list is endless.

People are the problem not the governments I can assure you of that..

RonMexico

I think these quotes describe Willie O'Dea perfectly.They originally were penned by Hunter S. Thompson about that other bastion of political integrity Richard Nixon.

"He is like a hyena that you shoot and gut, then see a few hours later, loping along in his stinking way, oblivious to the fact that he is not only dead, but gutted as well."

""He could shake your hand and stab you in the back at the same time."

"He is a foul caricature of himself, a man with no soul, no inner convictions, with the integrity of a hyena and the style of a poison toad. He was absolutely humorless; I couldn't imagine him laughing at anything except maybe a paraplegic who wanted to vote Democratic but couldn't quite reach the lever on the voting machine."

"He was utterly without ethics or morals or any bedrock sense of decency. Nobody trusted him - and honest historians will remember him mainly as a rat who kept scrambling to get back on the ship."

baza1976

Raiser wrote: »

Did you even read the opening Post?

- He doesn't even bother to go to fcuking work!!!!!!!!When they are all "at the table" Willie O'Dea is walking posturing laps of Limerick pretending he is a Man of the People.....

Have you read the opening post and link that you posted/wrote!!???!?!?:rolleyes:

Well if had bothered you would have noticed that new "clock in system" was introduced in March 2010!!!! Willie was not at the table, as you have pointed out on a number occasions in a number of threads (mostly started by you) was not a Minister since mid Feb 2010.

I don't know why you keep on about the man to be honest....... it's getting boring. He's gone...build a bridge get over it.

osarusan asked on this thread (in relation to my comment that Willie was not at the table representing Limerick any more) how much worse/better would Limerick be if Willie was still at the table. Well at the moment probably no better or no worse. But when/if the economy turns and some jobs are created you need a Minister at the table to shout for his area/region. That's why I believe in what I said which was, we need someone at the table, no matter what party they are from.

bacon&cabbage

Baza is correct, I'm also fed up of your constant rants on WOD, get over it please. This must be the 4th or 5th WOD bashing thread and all it ever turns into is a mud flinging contest. Your point is well made Raiser - MOVE ON

Raiser

bacon&cabbage wrote: »

Baza is correct, I'm also fed up of your constant rants on WOD, get over it please. This must be the 4th or 5th WOD bashing thread and all it ever turns into is a mud flinging contest. Your point is well made Raiser - MOVE ON

Baza is incorrect - He thought he had a fantastic angle and he paraded it in a giddy lap of honour complete with clowns......

- Wille O'Dea as an elected Teachta Dala is, surprise surprise, expected to attend the Dail occasionally - He doesn't bother his arsé 'cause he is too busy sitting in The Spotted Mongrel and Fennessys getting replacement wooden legs for Peoples Aunts to score brownie points with People who are both easily bought and easy to separate from the ethics their Parents tried to instil.

I'm not sure what threads you like Bacon - But if this isn't your thing then please move on - the way out is to your top right and it looks like this X

bacon&cabbage

Raiser wrote: »

Baza is incorrect - He thought he had a fantastic angle and he paraded it in a giddy lap of honour complete with clowns......

- Wille O'Dea as an elected Teachta Dala is, surprise surprise, expected to attend the Dail occasionally - He 'cause he is too busy sitting in The Spotted Mongrel and Fennessys getting replacement wooden legs for Peoples Aunts to score brownie points with People who are both easily bought and easy to separate from the ethics their Parents tried to instil.

I'm not sure what threads you like Bacon - But if this isn't your thing then please move on - the way out is to your top right and it looks like this X

My God you really act like a spoilt, silly little child.

WOD recieved over 19,000 first preference votes in the 2007 election, more than twice the quota, nearly 40 % of the vote in a 5 seat constituency.
You cannot argue with this fact.
What are you suggesting about those 19,000 people ?
Do you think a TD who "doesn't bother his arsé" will still get nearly 40 % of the first preference vote ?

By the way, "Teachta Dala" doesn't make any sense, it's Teachta Dála, have some respect for the language please.

Raiser

bacon&cabbage wrote: »

My God you really act like a spoilt, silly little child.

WOD recieved over 19,000 first preference votes in the 2007 election, more than twice the quota, nearly 40 % of the vote in a 5 seat constituency.
You cannot argue with this fact.
What are you suggesting about those 19,000 people ?
Do you think a TD who "doesn't bother his arsé" will still get nearly 40 % of the first preference vote ?

By the way, "Teachta Dala" doesn't make any sense, it's Teachta Dála, have some respect for the language please.

I'll ignore the personal abuse, retrospective references to June 2007 when the Electorate weren't telepathic enough etc. as it serves me well to allow you to let yourself down.....

- Its interesting how you're quoting voting statistics though - Any chance you are one of Willie's "Entourage" that he pays handsomely out of my wages to ring doorbells and litter letterboxes?

Also, it is of course easier to sit in some Pub shaking hands with Nannas winning over/keeping the easily led of Limerick on side than it is to bother to travel to the Dáil to be an actual diligent Politician.

By the way the difference between Teachta Dala and Teachta Dála is precisely the difference between petty pedantry and a good honest debate.

baza1976

Raiser wrote: »

Baza is incorrect - He thought he had a fantastic angle and he paraded it in a giddy lap of honour complete with clowns......

Could you elaborate please?

- Wille O'Dea as an elected Teachta Dala is, surprise surprise, expected to attend the Dail occasionally - He doesn't bother his arsé 'cause he is too busy sitting in The Spotted Mongrel and Fennessys getting replacement wooden legs for Peoples Aunts to score brownie points with People who are both easily bought and easy to separate from the ethics their Parents tried to instil.

I'm not sure what threads you like Bacon - But if this isn't your thing then please move on - the way out is to your top right and it looks like this X

Why you so rude to other posters on here, esp when they don't agree with you???
If you want people around with the same opinion, grab a chair and sit in front of that mirror over there. It's the only place you'll find that situation.

A see above you called someone a troll. The words black, pot & kettle spring to mind.

If you are so sure of your opinion on a political view, why don't you take your issues with WOD to the political forum? Just asking thats all.

Hey how is that bridge coming on??? I'm begining to wonder if you are a child taken the p#ss, I really am

I await a dignified reply:rolleyes:

gaf1983

RonMexico wrote: »

"He is like a hyena that you shoot and gut, then see a few hours later, loping along in his stinking way, oblivious to the fact that he is not only dead, but gutted as well."

That's a fabulous, fabulous quote.

John Gormley went to Munchin's so there's our Limerick link at the cabinet table.

To the people who are giving out to Raiser for harping on about WO'D, he was commenting about a story raised in last week's Sunday Times, one of legitimate public concern about TDs not doing what we pay them to do: at a time when An Bord Snip Nua et al are scrutinizing every area of the public expenditure looking for areas that represent bad value for taxpayers money I think our local TD's non-attendance is a matter of public concern rather than a mere "mud-slinging contest."

Raiser

baza1976 wrote: »

I await a dignified reply:rolleyes:

I've been educated just a little bit more only very recently... I trust that the People whose opinions I have time and respect for will overlook the slings and arrows of the People I have absolutely no respect for.

Icky Thump

badboyblast wrote: »

Willie O dea does a lot of good things for families all over Limerick and has in the past.

problem is willie has done the job of a local counceller when he isnt one.

he should focus on his own job and he would get to keep it

willie is good at what he does(playing people)

Icky Thump

mysterious wrote: »

Instead of Limerick people complaining about Willie O Dea, what has any of you done for this city?

Seriously stop deluding yourselves "as in you all"

What have you done to make this city a better place? Besides voting which is for shills and fools. People who vote politicians in, deserve the kind of slavery they bargained for.

If you want to make a place a better place. You get off your "ass" and do "something" to make it a better place. Why don't you organise a community in your area to improve your area. Bring a community spirit to your surroundings? Why don't you organise a picking up litter day in your estate. It's may now, you should be all planting flowers and trees at roadsides. Go to council meetings and submit your "views" for this city. Do some fundraising events even. The list is endless.

People are the problem not the governments I can assure you of that..

lol what????:D

so who do we vote in as oppose to politicians????

for the record they are not all the same and some do their jobs.

willie does not

willie plays the system. the game of go to the local pubs and talk rubbish get a few numbers put in a word here and there and thats it.

did you take any notice of his clinic diary???

pub a 9:00
pub b 9:30
pub c 10:00
pub d 10:30

thats just one night. its a fecking pub crawl. not exactly a busy night of meetings. stop deluding yourselves. what he does isnt even his feckin job. its to win votes in his area. he is good at what he does and is a great politition which means he is rubbish for limerick

also willie has helped friends of mine. but he has also helped scum(limerick exports:D) to get passports...................................(not going to mention a particular thread we had not so long ago)

Raiser

Icky Thump wrote: »

lol what????:D

so who do we vote in as oppose to politicians????

for the record they are not all the same and some do their jobs.

willie does not

willie plays the system. the game of go to the local pubs and talk rubbish get a few numbers put in a word here and there and thats it.

did you take any notice of his clinic diary???

pub a 9:00
pub b 9:30
pub c 10:00
pub d 10:30

thats just one night. its a fecking pub crawl. not exactly a busy night of meetings. stop deluding yourselves. what he does isnt even his feckin job. its to win votes in his area. he is good at what he does and is a great politition which means he is rubbish for limerick

also willie has helped friends of mine. but he has also helped scum(limerick exports:D) to get passports...................................(not going to mention a particular thread we had not so long ago)

pub a 9:00 - Willie my bin was robbed on Tuesday night
pub b 9:30 - Willie can ya get my stoopidest Child into da Council?
pub c 10:00 - Willie my benefits are dropping but my ankle is still a tad sore.
pub d 10:30 - Willie any chance of replacing my farm with 850 Semi D's?

- No wonder Limerick City is a slowly suffocating Ghost Town if our Political representation is out fighting with People in one Pub and then 'fixing' things for People in another.


P.S. Check the next post below if you came on here for off-topic, lowbrow, uninspired, petty, childish point-scoring

baza1976

baza1976 wrote: »

I await a dignified reply:rolleyes:

Raiser wrote: »

I've been educated just a little bit more only very recently... I trust that the People whose opinions I have time and respect for will overlook the slings and arrows of the People I have absolutely no respect for.

I knew you could do it.

Thanks,

B

testicle

badboyblast wrote: »

Willie O dea does a lot of good things for families all over Limerick and has in the past.

That's the job of a County/City Councillor, not a TD.

RonMexico

I think this thread is a perfect example of the mix of ignorance and cronyism that has helped destroy our country.

The fact that people are still defending Willie O'Dea makes me want to gouge my eyes out.

The man should never be allowed inside Dail Eireann again.

Aidric

Raiser wrote: »

pub a 9:00 - Willie my bin was robbed on Tuesday night
pub b 9:30 - Willie can ya get my stoopidest Child into da Council?
pub c 10:00 - Willie my benefits are dropping but my ankle is still a tad sore.
pub d 10:30 - Willie any chance of replacing my farm with 850 Semi D's?

- No wonder Limerick City is a slowly suffocating Ghost Town if our Political representation is out fighting with People in one Pub and then 'fixing' things for People in another.

I'm afraid your analysis falls down consistently on the back of this sort of ridicule. Most TD's I'm aware of hold their clinics in pubs. They tend to be focal points for communities so I don't see a problem with holding them there.

bacon&cabbage

Raiser wrote: »

I'll ignore the personal abuse,...as it serves me well to allow you to let yourself down.....

Raiser wrote: »

Its 2010AD BTW - Grow up, open your eyes and learn the basic difference between right and wrong

Pot Kettle black

Raiser wrote: »

retrospective references to June 2007 when the Electorate weren't telepathic enough etc.

Fine, in 2002 he again topped the poll, if you still contend that Willie "doesn't bother his arsé" how come they didn't punish him in 2007 ? No instead they gave hime an even bigger share of the vote.

Raiser wrote: »

- Its interesting how you're quoting voting statistics though - Any chance you are one of Willie's "Entourage"

No, not even the same constituency, but I do proudly admit to being an FF supporter.
Can I ask what your political affiliation is ?

Raiser wrote: »

Also, it is of course easier to sit in some Pub shaking hands with Nannas winning over/keeping the easily led of Limerick on side than it is to bother to travel to the Dáil to be an actual diligent Politician.

I agree that TD's in general spend too much time, going to funerals, getting potholes fixed etc, this is the work of a County Councillors. At the same time there still needs to be some level of communication with the general public.

Raiser wrote: »

By the way the difference between Teachta Dala and Teachta Dála is precisely the difference between petty pedantry and a good honest debate.

LOL, nope you're still incorrect, the two expressions mean completely different things and no amount of debating will ever change that. I find it interesting however, that you managed to spell "Dáil" correctly in your latest sig, so you've obviously taken on board my comments, well done !

BTW Fianna Fáil is spelt incorrectly or was that on purpose ?

bacon&cabbage

RonMexico wrote: »

I think this thread is a perfect example of the mix of ignorance and cronyism that has helped destroy our country.

The fact that people are still defending Willie O'Dea makes me want to gouge my eyes out.

The man should never be allowed inside Dail Eireann again.

I think this thread is a perfect example of how we in Ireland (as much as I love the place) are a nation of complainers, whingers and begrudgers.:mad:

RonMexico

Yeah how dare we criticise a self-serving ethically bankrupt politician.

Liam Byrne

bacon&cabbage wrote: »

I do proudly admit to being an FF supporter.

Can I ask what it is that makes you "proud" ?

xsiborg

here's the thing really, willie o dea is simply a carricature figure that is elected to the dail simply because limerick people are apathetic towards politicians. the "old faithful" fianna faillers will of course vote for willie, who likes to think he is "the common man's man", and the voters from limericks less wealthier areas who couldnt give a damn, will vote for willie simply for a piss-take!

i think willie instead of holding his clinics in pubs, should hold his clinics in brothels, let him lend his friendly ear in there, or whatever other bodily parts he might so generously be willing to put forward!

i for one anyway am glad he's gone because i was sick of seeing this embarrassment, charlie chaplin doppleganger "cute hoor" held up as representing the people of limerick.

im not from limerick myself, but i can tell ye lads- ye deserve a hell of a lot better in the dail to represent the interests of limerick. how micheal dell must have laughed to see willie walking through the door when he went on a pointless jaunt to the states. im only reminded of that now as i watch a program on how dell moving out of ireland left 1900 people on the dole.

not a word from willie then, but he got auntie mabel a medical card... great lad, NOT!

anyway this was much of a rant off the top o me head so, spelling errors- meh! :rolleyes:

badboyblast

xsiborg wrote: »

here's the thing really, willie o dea is simply a carricature figure that is elected to the dail simply because limerick people are apathetic towards politicians. the "old faithful" fianna faillers will of course vote for willie, who likes to think he is "the common man's man", and the voters from limericks less wealthier areas who couldnt give a damn, will vote for willie simply for a piss-take!

i think willie instead of holding his clinics in pubs, should hold his clinics in brothels, let him lend his friendly ear in there, or whatever other bodily parts he might so generously be willing to put forward!

i for one anyway am glad he's gone because i was sick of seeing this embarrassment, charlie chaplin doppleganger "cute hoor" held up as representing the people of limerick.

im not from limerick myself, but i can tell ye lads- ye deserve a hell of a lot better in the dail to represent the interests of limerick. how micheal dell must have laughed to see willie walking through the door when he went on a pointless jaunt to the states. im only reminded of that now as i watch a program on how dell moving out of ireland left 1900 people on the dole.

not a word from willie then, but he got auntie mabel a medical card... great lad, NOT!

anyway this was much of a rant off the top o me head so, spelling errors- meh! :rolleyes:

So besides the few f*ck ups he made (we`re all human) what makes you able to understand or make a judgement on Willies work?

Politicians hold their clinics in pubs in Ireland because they are seen as a meeting point for the community and some where open and warm during the winter etc (where else you gonna meet someone out oin Croom, Castleconnell Etc ) besides a pub - They ain`t in there getting pissed!!

You talk about the man like you know him......people vote for him as a piss take.........(that sounds like a piss take)
Willie does genuine work for his community and is a lot better then a lot of the tossers in the dail but sure you would`nt know this because you`ve never spoken to him or been involved in any areas where he has helped them, any charities he helped or any poor areas where he got them facilities that never existed until he got them. :rolleyes:

badboyblast

Raiser wrote: »

pub a 9:00 - Willie my bin was robbed on Tuesday night
pub b 9:30 - Willie can ya get my stoopidest Child into da Council?
pub c 10:00 - Willie my benefits are dropping but my ankle is still a tad sore.
pub d 10:30 - Willie any chance of replacing my farm with 850 Semi D's?

- No wonder Limerick City is a slowly suffocating Ghost Town if our Political representation is out fighting with People in one Pub and then 'fixing' things for People in another.


P.S. Check the next post below if you came on here for off-topic, lowbrow, uninspired, petty, childish point-scoring

Easily known you`ve never had to contact a policitcian for any help or seek advice.

billy the squid

With respect, that is what Citizens Information Centres are for.

osarusan

badboyblast wrote: »

Willie does genuine work for his community and is a lot better then a lot of the tossers in the dail but sure you would`nt know this because you`ve never spoken to him or been involved in any areas where he has helped them, any charities he helped or any poor areas where he got them facilities that never existed until he got them. :rolleyes:

When and where was this?

munstergirl

+1 when + where?

Can someone please tell me what he has done for limerick?

I keep hearing willy has done "lots" for limerick.

But what has he done?

xsiborg

badboyblast wrote: »

So besides the few f*ck ups he made (we`re all human) what makes you able to understand or make a judgement on Willies work?

BESIDES the few? fairness now, as a public representative on his salary, paid for by my taxes, i think im well within my rights to judge his performance as a TD and say that it's BECAUSE of his **** ups that i have no time for his nonsense. pointing a gun into the lens of a camera, who, WHO, i ask you, does that? lying in court? i'd be writing this from jail if i did that. making disparaging and ufounded remarks about another electoral candidate?

whats good for the goose willie, eh? :rolleyes: i needn't go on, we all know willies "mistakes", riiiiight. again, if i was on a politicians salary working in the private sector, my bosses wouldn't be long turfing me out for making a "mistake".

badboyblast wrote: »

Politicians hold their clinics in pubs in Ireland because they are seen as a meeting point for the community and some where open and warm during the winter etc (where else you gonna meet someone out oin Croom, Castleconnell Etc ) besides a pub - They ain`t in there getting pissed!!

are you honestly suggesting that they couldn't meet in the local GAA club or the community hall? there are plenty of places they could hold their clinics besides the pub! pub is for pub talk, not for serious discussion!

somewhere open and warm during the winter?

you're talking like we're back in the days of the famine for goodness sake! as for "they aint in there gettin pissed".... riiight :rolleyes:

badboyblast wrote: »

You talk about the man like you know him......people vote for him as a piss take.........(that sounds like a piss take)

i dont know the man, but i do know the politician, and it doesnt exactly endear me to the man! the reason it sounds like a pisstake is because it is laughable that this charlie chaplin lookalike (now with extra ineptitude!) gets a seat in the dail, charlie chaplin at least was a genuine comedian and not just a clown!

badboyblast wrote: »

Willie does genuine work for his community and is a lot better then a lot of the tossers in the dail but sure you would`nt know this because you`ve never spoken to him or been involved in any areas where he has helped them, any charities he helped or any poor areas where he got them facilities that never existed until he got them. :rolleyes:

i havent actually spoken to the man, suffice to say a polite "hello" to him as he shuffles past me while i walk home with my son from school (his house isnt too far from me). the man buries his head in his collars as if to hide his face. trust me willie, theres no mistaking your funny mask disguise! :rolleyes: i've yet to hear a polite reply from "the common man's man" though, strangely enough. i was in the company of a fellow once who shared the delusion as you seem to, that willie cared about limerick, and as willie's driver pulled up in his ministerial car (it could have been a '06 LEXUS!!!), this fellow ran, (i know, yes, he ran! :rolleyes:) over to chat to willie about something. willie looked like he couldn't get away fast enough! maybe if my aquaintance had offered him a place to get warm and a 7up in fennessys, eh? :rolleyes:

Raiser

An Irish TD can walk into the Social Welfare Office and make 'indications' about a certain Person, perhaps that his Fadder was a Champion Ploughman or his Ma was of good character etc. - Stuff will then happen for that Person. Good stuff.

An Irish TD can walk into the Planning Office and nod, wink, secret handshake himself into a 19 bedroom Brothel on a Beach front in this Country on behalf of himself or someone else if it suited him to do so. I read recently that Páidí Ó'Sé is apparently building a Gym 1/3 of a mile from the Sea on Slea Head.

An Irish TD will get you a Council House ahead of the rest - Just go see, put him to the test!

Any Irish TD going today will get you out of work through benefits, disability payments, medical cards etc. if you want - Or if you're completely insane they could do the opposite and get you 60 years work in the Public Sector where you'll probably do even less.......

There's been a lot of comments re. the Pubs - To clarify, I don't care if they meet on roadsides, Tree Houses or in Hen houses; My point is that its a ridiculous framework to build a local governance platform on. Meeting your Local Politician in a dark corner and getting him to swing things your way, stack the odds and fix your race.......

Finally Willie O'Dea is Jackie Healy Rae, is Lowry, etc. They are Political Plants that live in our midst orchestrating a daily popularity contest at the expense of transparent, open, honest dealings to guarantee a landslide of votes on Polling day.

- The really interesting thing is that People are willing to lose their credibility, integrity, and the respect of others in standing up for them.

Disclaimer - The above is a general comment about standards and norms in Irish Politics. It is most certainly not a commentary or assessment of any individual in any sense.

baza1976

munstergirl wrote: »

+1 when + where?

Can someone please tell me what he has done for limerick?

I keep hearing willy has done "lots" for limerick.

But what has he done?

What has any TD done for any party done from Limerick as a whole in that last 20years!!???!??

They're all the same. When FF are out and FG are in people will be given out about Michael Noonan or someone else.

People think things will change as soon as FF get thrown out... I have news for ye lads , it won't change so easy/so soon.
As for the past..... who knows, Fg wanted to get rid of stamp duty before the last election as part of their campaign to get the building sector going again, but if you mention it now they will shout you down.

There are a lot of hard decisions to make over the next few years, and if you ask me that's why the opposition aren't jumping up and down for an election. If the FG or LB wanted an election they could get one, but instead they give a half hearted demand.
One of the few times the opposition threw a real strop was when the media were highlighting the expenses fiasco. and that says it all about TDs really.

But i repeat my main argument, if the jobs are being created you need someone at the cabinet table looking for them jobs. And I don't care what party they are from.

baza1976

Raiser wrote: »

- The really interesting thing is that People are willing to lose their credibility, integrity, and the respect of others in standing up for them.

Some people stand up for TD's and not worried about losing your respect (would you believe), some others are sick of hearing YOU going on about the same thing every 2 weeks.

Disclaimer - The above is a general comment about standards and norms. It is most certainly not a commentary or assessment of any individual in any sense.

Kess73

baza1976 wrote: »

What has any TD done for any party done from Limerick as a whole in that last 20years!!???!??

They're all the same. When FF are out and FG are in people will be given out about Michael Noonan or someone else.

People think things will change as soon as FF get thrown out... I have news for ye lads , it won't change so easy/so soon.
As for the past..... who knows, Fg wanted to get rid of stamp duty before the last election as part of their campaign to get the building sector going again, but if you mention it now they will shout you down.

There are a lot of hard decisions to make over the next few years, and if you ask me that's why the opposition aren't jumping up and down for an election. If the FG or LB wanted an election they could get one, but instead they give a half hearted demand.
One of the few times the opposition threw a real strop was when the media were highlighting the expenses fiasco. and that says it all about TDs really.

But i repeat my main argument, if the jobs are being created you need someone at the cabinet table looking for them jobs. And I don't care what party they are from.

You mention Michael Noonan. I know he had to deal with the Hep C scandal when he was minister for Health, but has he not been the TD involved in the past with getting extensions and equipment for the regional hospital when he was a member of Government? Was he not a Limerick minister who was involved in getting business into both the Raheen and Shannon Industrial estates when he was minister of Industry and Commerce? Was he not the minister who during his time as Minister for justice who made public the fact that the previous Fianna Fail government had been illegally tapping the phonelines of journalists and some businesses?

Seems to me that despite a fair share of knockers and his own fair share of mistakes that Noonan was a TD from Limerick who was able to achieve quantifiable results at both national and local level.

Funny how for a man with such a long career that Willie O'Dea does not have a similar record at national and local level, other than doing things that local councillors should be doing or giving informatiopn that is available anyway through places like the Citizen's advice centre or the Social Welfare Office.

It is all well and good saying he was a Limerick voice at the Government table, but when were we going to see signs of that?

baza1976

Kess73 wrote: »

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It is all well and good saying he was a Limerick voice at the Government table, but when were we going to see signs of that?

Thats a fair enough reply. One in which I feel you are not trying to "rise" me like some posters liek to do at every reply!!!

But anyway...... yeah fair points about Micheal..... I could mention how WD improved the resources of the defence forces, which helps on peace keeping missions and someone might come back and say what good is that to Limeirck and we'll have a tit for tat thing going on again. And there has been enough of that.

But I'm not really a WD supporter or any other party either. It's just the same WD bashing record that gets played here over and over.

But to answer your quote above: I don't know when we would have seen signs, who does?. It's jsut that when jobs come back is my concern. And having Willie there would have been better than nothing.

But again if there is an election tomorrow I don't mind what party they are from. And I think people should keep that in mind (if an election happens)

Kess73

baza1976 wrote: »

Thats a fair enough reply. One in which I feel you are not trying to "rise" me like some posters liek to do at every reply!!!

But anyway...... yeah fair points about Micheal..... I could mention how WD improved the resources of the defence forces, which helps on peace keeping missions and someone might come back and say what good is that to Limeirck and we'll have a tit for tat thing going on again. And there has been enough of that.

But I'm not really a WD supporter or any other party either. It's just the same WD bashing record that gets played here over and over.

But to answer your quote above: I don't know when we would have seen signs, who does?. It's jsut that when jobs come back is my concern. And having Willie there would have been better than nothing.

But again if there is an election tomorrow I don't mind what party they are from. And I think people should keep that in mind (if an election happens)

Oh getting a rise is not my intention. It is just that I keep hearing on here how important it is to have him as a Limerick voice, and with him gone things will get worse.

It just strikes me as odd that someone around as long as he has been has so little to show what having him there did for Limerick.

I am no FG or Michael Noonan fan but it struck me that he did have a number of things on a larger scale at National and local level that could be pointed to, as well as having dealt with the medical cards/council houses/man on the street issues.

But with Willie, I have never found anybody who could point to anything concrete other than the medical cards/council houses/man on the street issues.

O'Dea to me comes across as a spoofer if I am to be honest. I have lost count of the times when he has come out on local radio saying he was going to "kick ass" on some Limerick or Mid West issue in the Dail, and then a few days later when a vote was held in the Dail, there was Willie towing the party line and voting for whatever issue he was claiming to be fighting against when in front of local people.

His recent interviews about having no idea at all as to why he had to step down were cringeworthy, and his interview with 95FM, last week I think, where he then decided that his fall was caused totally by a campaign against him by a newspaper which he named.

His recent record as the person with the worst attendence record in the Dail since the new clock in system started does him no favours either. He is still an elected TD, so by not turning up at all, he is the one that is costing Limerick the voice in the Dail that he himself claimed was so important.


As for the next general election, I don't really have any alliegence to any one party, but I do have a belief that a sitting government should either be rewarded with voted or punished by a lack of votes based on their track record. It may be an obvious thing to say, but from my own experiences many people do not see things that way and will vote for a Party banner based on what way their families voted in the past or similar rather than basing it on the performance of the sitting government and/or the need for a change.

coldwood92

Raiser wrote: »

The Willie O'Dea fiasco is lurching and staggering to a new low with the revelations that despite showing an renewed appetite for ringing doorbells and doing God knows what for People in "Clinics" in the Spotted Dog Pub, Willie doesn't seemed to be bothered to attend his place of work in the Dail?

Does this mean that he isn't drawing the salary and can we then conclude that he doesn't intend to collect his pension?

- This has to be the worst ever token PR-spun pseudo-resignation, where you subsequently mock your poor Constituents in the history of our sorry little State.

he resagin from the dail

bacon&cabbage

Liam Byrne wrote: »

Can I ask what it is that makes you "proud" ?

Peace Process in Northern Ireland

Liam Byrne

bacon&cabbage wrote: »

Peace Process in Northern Ireland

A single achievement! Wow! And one whose groundwork was far, far more than FF alone :rolleyes:

And anyway, how does this "achievement" relate to one dodgy, vindictive and non-attending politician who doesn't do accountability ?

Raiser

Just saw this here on another thread and thought it would fit in nicely here with an edit to Limerick - Credit ejmaztec.

"Ask not what your TD can do for your Country, ask what he can do for you"

JFK Limerick-style.

bacon&cabbage

Liam Byrne wrote: »

A single achievement! Wow!

I specifically picked only one because I have better things to be doing with my evenings than arguing with you lot. I picked what I thought was the most significant.

Liam Byrne wrote: »

And one whose groundwork was far, far more than FF alone :rolleyes:

Of course there were others involved, I never said there wasn't. The FF led governments contributed far more than anyone else in the republic. It was a significant achievement by FF. I think any reasonable person would agree with that.

Liam Byrne wrote: »

And anyway, how does this "achievement" relate to one dodgy, vindictive and non-attending politician who doesn't do accountability ?

I don't know, you were the one that asked the question, I answered it. Ask yourself !

flutered

i cannot escape the hunch that bacon and cabbage is really willie o d

Liam Byrne

flutered wrote: »

i cannot escape the hunch that bacon and cabbage is really willie o d

"You'd want to check with your sources!"