2010 Hurling Championship Pools

jordainius

2010 Hurling Championship Pools
Hoydy folks,

Started a week late unfortunately but its time to start up the championship pools. Daysha has handed it over to me for the summer so I'll do my best.

Rather than go with my slightly over the top format suggestion on the other thread I will be using the exact same format used in the 2010 National Hurling League pools ran by Daysha as we are all familiar with it.

Furthermore, I will post two separate sets of results; one for the Liam McCarthy Cup only, and one for the other competitions.

I will copy and paste the rules from the NHL pools here for reference.

1.Each Monday evening I will post up the fixtures for the coming week and by Tuesday or Wednesday I'll have the league table of posters and points for the previous week just gone.

2.Late comers will be accepted but points will be forfeited for any games missed.

3.Predictions will be accepted and valid by 12 noon on the day of the games.Should a poster miss this deadline,points will be forfeited.If a poster does miss this deadline,the poster can appeal via PM but where the poster PMs or submits predictions after the stated throw in of the game,there will be no room for appeal.

4.The points system I am using has a twist to it.You get 2 points for predicting the winner of the game.Should a poster predict within 2 points of the winning margin,that poster will receive a bonus point. Points will not be given for draws so don't post a draw as a prediction. (This is to prevent complications that may arise from teams winning drawn games after extra time) Needless to say if you predict a team to win and they lose you get no points.

5.Bonus points will be awarded at the end of the season for predicting correctly the respective winners and runners up of each competition; those competitions being McCarthy Cup, Munster, Leinster, Ulster, Ring, Rackard and Meagher. Bonus points also available for picking teams relegated from the Ring and Rackard cups. (No relegation in the McCarthy cup this year)

6.Posters must predict champions, finalists and relegations in their first post with their first round of predictions.


N.B. Predictions for Finalists, champion, and team relegated from Christy Ring Cup and Ulster finalists and champion will not be accepted after midday Sunday the 16th, as the competitions are already underway. All other champion/finalist predictions will not be accepted after midday of Saturday May the 22nd as the Leinster championship begins that day.

jordainius

All games on Saturday May-15th. Predictions by 12pm on Satutday please!

Christy Ring Cup
Round 2A
Kildare v Wicklow
Kerry v Westmeath

Round 2A
Mayo v Down
Derry v Meath

Ulster Championship
Round 2
London v Monaghan
Armagh v Tyrone

Orizio

Christy Ring Cup
Round 2A
Kildare v Wicklow - Kildare by 5 points
Kerry v Westmeath - Kerry by 3 points

Round 2A
Mayo v Down - Down by 5 points
Derry v Meath - Derry by 10 points

Ulster Championship
Round 2
London v Monaghan - London by 5 points
Armagh v Tyrone - Armagh by 5 points

jordainius

All-Ireland Champions; Galway beat Kilkenny
Munster Champions; Cork beat Clare
Leinster champions; Kilkenny beat Galway
Ulster champions; Antrim beat Down
Ring Champions; Westmeath beat Down
Rackard Champions; Armagh beat London
Meagher Champions; Donegal beat South Down

Ring relegated; Derry
Rackard relegated; Tyrone

jordainius

Christy Ring Cup
Round 2A
Kildare v Wicklow - Kildare by 3
Kerry v Westmeath - Westmeath by 1

Round 2A
Mayo v Down - Down by 6
Derry v Meath - Meath by 2

Ulster Championship
Round 2
London v Monaghan - London by 10
Armagh v Tyrone - Armagh by 5

Orizio

All-Ireland Champions; Kilkenny beat Tipperary
Munster Champions; Tipperary beat Waterford
Leinster champions; Galway beat Kilkenny
Ulster champions; Antrim beat Down
Ring Champions; Kerry beat Kildare
Rackard Champions; Armagh beat Roscommon
Meagher Champions; South Down beat Cavan

Ring relegated; Mayo
Rackard relegated; Monaghan

Orizio

jordainius wrote: »

All-Ireland Champions; Galway beat Kilkenny
Munster Champions; Cork beat Clare
Leinster champions; Kilkenny beat Galway
Ulster champions; Antrim beat Down
Ring Champions; Westmeath beat Down
Rackard Champions; Armagh beat London
Meagher Champions; Donegal beat South Down

Ring relegated; Tyrone
Rackard relegated; Derry

This looks wrong.

Danno

Christy Ring Cup
Round 2A
Kildare v Wicklow - Wicklow by 2
Kerry v Westmeath - Kerry by 15

Round 2A
Mayo v Down - Down by 4
Derry v Meath - Derry by 5

Ulster Championship
Round 2
London v Monaghan - London by 16
Armagh v Tyrone - Armagh by 9

spideog7

All-Ireland: Galway to beat Tipperary (But it'll probably go to a replay )
Leinster: Galway to beat Kilkenny
Munster: Tipperary to beat Waterford
Ulster: Antrim to beat Down

This is a shot in the dark now for some of these and I'm not too even too sure on whether they can meet or not, but based on the bit I've seen:

Ring: Westmeath to beat Kerry
Rackard: London to beat Armagh
Meagher: Donegal to beat Monaghan

Ring relegated: Mayo
Rackard relegated: Louth

spideog7

Christy Ring Cup
Round 2A
Kildare v Wicklow - Wicklow by 4
Kerry v Westmeath - Westmeath by 3

Round 2A
Mayo v Down - Down by 8
Derry v Meath - Meath by 3

Ulster Championship
Round 2
London v Monaghan - London by 9
Armagh v Tyrone - Armagh by 12

Diabhal Beag

Christy Ring Cup
Round 2A
Kildare v Wicklow = Wicklow by 2 points
Kerry v Westmeath = Westmeath by 3 points

Round 2A
Mayo v Down = Down by 5 points
Derry v Meath = Derry by 2 points

Ulster Championship
Round 2
London v Monaghan = London by 4 point
Armagh v Tyrone = Armagh by 1 point

Diabhal Beag

All-Ireland Champions; Galway beat Kilkenny
Munster Champions; Tipp beat Clare
Leinster champions; Galway beat Killkenny
Ulster champions; Antrim beat Down
Ring Champions; Westmeath beat Down
Rackard Champions; Armagh beat London
Meagher Champions; Donegal beat South Down

Ring relegated; Derry
Rackard relegated; Tyrone

Stevecw

Christy Ring Cup
Round 2A
Kildare v Wicklow - Kildare by 8
Kerry v Westmeath - Kerry by 2

Round 2A
Mayo v Down - Down by 5
Derry v Meath - Derry by 4

Ulster Championship
Round 2
London v Monaghan - London by 4
Armagh v Tyrone - Armagh by 12

Stevecw

All-Ireland Champions; Tipp beat Kilkenny
Munster Champions; Tipp beat Waterford
Leinster champions; Kilkenny beat Galway
Ulster champions; Antrim beat Down
Ring Champions; Kildare beat Kerry
Rackard Champions; Armagh beat London
Meagher Champions; Donegal beat South Down

Ring relegated: Meath
Rackard relegated; Tyrone

ShamoBuc

Christy Ring Cup
Round 2A
Kildare v Wicklow - Kildare by 3 points
Kerry v Westmeath - Kerry by 7 points

Round 2A
Mayo v Down - Down by 8 points
Derry v Meath - Derry by 7 points

Ulster Championship
Round 2
London v Monaghan - London by 8 points
Armagh v Tyrone - Armagh by 9 points

ShamoBuc

All-Ireland Champions; Galway beat Tipperary
Munster Champions; Cork beat Waterford
Leinster champions; Galway beat Kilkenny
Ulster champions; Antrim beat Down
Ring Champions; Kerry beat Kildare
Rackard Champions; Armagh beat Roscommon
Meagher Champions; South Down beat Cavan

Ring relegated; Mayo
Rackard relegated; Monaghan

Pappy o' daniel

The system is weighted towards being very conservative with predictions.
If you predict kerry will beat tipp this sunday you get the same amount of points as if you correctly predicted that limerick would beat tipp/cork on june 20th!

Surely there should be more points given for longshots.

patmac

Christy Ring Cup
Round 2A
Kildare v Wicklow - Kildare by 2
Kerry v Westmeath - Kerry by 5

Round 2A
Mayo v Down - Down by 2
Derry v Meath - Meath by 2

Ulster Championship
Round 2
London v Monaghan - London by 22
Armagh v Tyrone - Armagh by 17


All-Ireland Champions; Tipperary beat Galway
Munster Champions; Tipp beat Waterford
Leinster champions; Galway beat Killkenny
Ulster champions; Antrim beat Down
Ring Champions; Westmeath beat Kerry
Rackard Champions; London beat Armagh
Meagher Champions; Donegal beat Longford

Arctic89

Christy Ring Cup
Round 2A
Kildare v Wicklow - Kildare by 7 points
Kerry v Westmeath - Kerry by 3 points

Round 2A
Mayo v Down - Down by 10 points
Derry v Meath - Derry by 7 points

Ulster Championship
Round 2
London v Monaghan - London by 15 points
Armagh v Tyrone - Armagh by 20 points

All-Ireland Champions; Galway beat Kilkenny
Munster Champions; Tipp beat Waterford
Leinster champions; Galway beat Killkenny
Ulster champions; Antrim beat Down
Ring Champions; Westmeath beat Down
Rackard Champions; Armagh beat Louth
Meagher Champions; Donegal beat South Down

Ring relegated; Mayo
Rackard relegated; Tyrone

jordainius

I have decided to make one last rule change- 3 points will be awarded for successfully predicting a draw rather than 2. (This is because predicting a winner is worth 2 points and a bonus point is given if the player predicts the points difference within 2 points.)


Also- I'm not sure what to do in the event of a game going to extra time. Lets take the Cork v Tipp game next weekend: Lets suppose it finishes drawn after 70 minutes, and Cork win after extra time. (Lets for the sake of this example overlook the fact that the draw would go to a replay and not extra time!)

Player 1 predicts a Cork win.
Player 2 predicts a draw.

Both player1 and player2 can claim to have made the correct prediction; but who gets the points?!

Hammer Archer

Christy Ring Cup
Round 2A
Kildare v Wicklow - Kildare by 11 points
Kerry v Westmeath - Kerry by 5 points

Round 2A
Mayo v Down - Down by 7 points
Derry v Meath - Meath by 1 point

Ulster Championship
Round 2
London v Monaghan - London by 17 points
Armagh v Tyrone - Armagh by 30 points

All-Ireland Champions; Kilkenny beat Cork
Munster Champions; Cork beat Tipp
Leinster champions; Galway beat Killkenny
Ulster champions; Down beat Antrim
Ring Champions; Kerry beat Down
Rackard Champions; London beat Armagh
Meagher Champions; Donegal beat Longford

Ring relegated; Mayo
Rackard relegated; Tyrone

Orizio

Hammer Archer wrote: »

Christy Ring Cup
Round 2A
Kildare v Wicklow - Kildare by 11 points
Kerry v Westmeath - Kerry by 5 points

Round 2A
Mayo v Down - Down by 7 points
Derry v Meath - Meath by 1 point

Ulster Championship
Round 2
London v Monaghan - London by 17 points
Armagh v Tyrone - Armagh by 30 points

All-Ireland Champions; Kilkenny beat Cork
Munster Champions; Cork beat Tipp
Leinster champions; Galway beat Killkenny
Ulster champions; Down beat Antrim
Ring Champions; Kerry beat Down
Rackard Champions; London beat Armagh
Meagher Champions; Donegal beat Longford

Ring relegated; Mayo
Rackard relegated; Tyrone

Arctic89

jordainius wrote: »

I have decided to make one last rule change- 3 points will be awarded for successfully predicting a draw rather than 2. (This is because predicting a winner is worth 2 points and a bonus point is given if the player predicts the points difference within 2 points.)


Also- I'm not sure what to do in the event of a game going to extra time. Lets take the Cork v Tipp game next weekend: Lets suppose it finishes drawn after 70 minutes, and Cork win after extra time. (Lets for the sake of this example overlook the fact that the draw would go to a replay and not extra time!)

Player 1 predicts a Cork win.
Player 2 predicts a draw.

Both player1 and player2 can claim to have made the correct prediction; but who gets the points?!

Dont allow a draw as a selection and withhold giving points until the match is eventually settled?

Perhaps also give players a chance to rename their selection if it goes to a replay? For instance, if Kilkenny drew with Galway and Joe Canning got injured in the first game, I might be more willing to select Kilkenny to win the replay. Other little factors might also lead you to changing selection, (e.g venue of replay, different referree, amount of games players have played in the last number of weeks.)

PTH2009

All Ireland Champions- Kilkenny Beat Galway
Leinster Champions- Kilkenny Beat Wexford
Munster Champions- Cork Beat Clare
Ulster Champions- Antrim Beat Down
Ring Champions- Kildare Beat Westmeath
Rackard Champions- London Beat Armagh
Meagher Champions- Monaghan Beat Donegal

student2010

Christy Ring Cup
Round 2A
Kildare v Wicklow - Kildare by 15 points
Kerry v Westmeath - Kerry by 2 points

Round 2A
Mayo v Down - Down by 12 points
Derry v Meath - Derry by 5 points

Ulster Championship
Round 2
London v Monaghan - London by 10 points
Armagh v Tyrone - Armagh by 6 points

All-Ireland Champions; Tipp beat Galway
Munster Champions; Cork beat Waterford
Leinster champions; Killkenny beat Offaly
Ulster champions; Antrim beat Derry
Ring Champions; Kerry beat Westmeath
Rackard Champions; London beat Tyrone
Meagher Champions; Donegal beat Longford

Ring relegated; Mayo
Rackard relegated; Sligo

Pride Fighter

Christy Ring Cup
Round 2A
Kildare v Wicklow- Kildare 5 points
Kerry v Westmeath- Kerry 1 point

Round 2A
Mayo v Down- Down 9 points
Derry v Meath- Derry 3 points

Ulster Championship
Round 2
London v Monaghan- London 15 points
Armagh v Tyrone Armagh 6 points

Pride Fighter

All-Ireland Champions- Tipperary beat Kilkenny
Munster Champions- Cork beat Tipperary
Leinster champions- Galway beat Kilkenny
Ulster champions- Antrim beat Down
Ring Champions- Westmeath beat Kerry
Rackard Champions- Roscommon beat Armagh
Meagher Champions; South Down beat Cavan

Ring relegated- Mayo
Rackard relegated- Monaghan

unknown13

Christy Ring Cup
Round 2A
Kildare v Wicklow - Kildare by 8 points
Kerry v Westmeath - Westmeath by 7 points

Round 2A
Mayo v Down - Down by 8 points
Derry v Meath - Derry by 7 points

Ulster Championship
Round 2
London v Monaghan - london by 13 points
Armagh v Tyrone - armagh by 2 points

unknown13

All-Ireland Champions; Tipp beat Kilkenny
Munster Champions; Tipp beat Waterford
Leinster champions; Kilkenny beat Galway
Ulster champions; Antrim beat Down
Ring Champions; Westmeath beat Down
Rackard Champions; London beat Armagh
Meagher Champions; Cavan beat South Down

Ring relegated; Mayo
Rackard relegated; Monaghan

jordainius

All-Ireland Championship;
Only 3 out of 13 so far see Kilkenny winning 5 in a row. Galway and Tipperary get 5 votes each.

Leinster; Galway get the nod so far with 8 votes compared to Kilkenny's 5.
Munster; Everyone predicts the winners of the Cork v Tipp game to go on to win the Munster title. Tipp lead 7-6.
In other competitions Antrim are clear favourites to win Ulster, Westmeath get most votes in the Christy Ring, Armagh and London get 6 votes each in the Rackard cup, and Donegal get most votes in the Meagher Cup.


In the match predictions the boardsies predictions are as follows;
Kildare 10-3 Wicklow
Kerry 9-4 Westmeath (Interestingly, 7 people predict Westmeath to win the Ring cup and only 4 tip Kerry)
Down 13-0 Mayo
Derry 9-4 Meath
London 13-0 Monaghan
Armagh 13-0 Tyrone


Predictions by 12pm tomorrow and best of luck to you all!

Daysha

Good luck to everyone taking part. Missed out on winning this by just a few points last year so I would've loved to try go one step further, but I know I just won't have the time to get those predictions in every week.

G'luck to jordainius as well (you'll understand come results time tomorrow )

grenache

Christy Ring Cup

Round 2A
Kildare v Wicklow - Kildare by 15 points
Kerry v Westmeath - Kerry by 2 points

Round 2A
Mayo v Down - Down by 8 points
Derry v Meath - Derry by 10 points

Ulster Championship

Round 2
London v Monaghan - london by 10 points
Armagh v Tyrone - Armagh by 9 points


All-Ireland Champions; Tipperary beat Kilkenny
Munster Champions; Tipperary beat Waterford
Leinster champions; Galway beat Kilkenny
Ulster champions; Down beat Antrim
Ring Champions; Down beat Kerry
Rackard Champions; Roscommon beat London
Meagher Champions; Donegal beat Longford

Ring relegated; Mayo
Rackard relegated; Tyrone

Gingy

Christy Ring Cup
Round 2A
Kildare v Wicklow - Kildare by 10
Kerry v Westmeath - Kerry by 4

Round 2A
Mayo v Down - Mayo by 2
Derry v Meath - Derry by 4

Ulster Championship
Round 2
London v Monaghan - London by 10
Armagh v Tyrone - Armagh by 8

All-Ireland Champions; Kilkenny to beat Galway
Munster Champions; Tipperary to beat Waterford
Leinster champions; Galway to beat Kilkenny
Ulster champions; Antrim to beat Down
Ring Champions; Kildare to beat Westmeath
Rackard Champions; Armagh to beat London
Meagher Champions; Donegal to beat Longford

Ring relegated; Mayo
Rackard relegated; Tyrone

windowlicker

All-Ireland Champions; tipp beat kk
Munster Champions; tipp beat waterford
Leinster champions; kk beat Galway
Ulster champions; antrim beat down
Ring Champions; kildare beat kerry
Rackard Champions; armagh beat london
Meagher Champions; donegal beat south down

Ring relegated: Meath
Rackard relegated; Monaghan

Christy Ring Cup
Round 2A
Kildare v Wicklow - Kildare by 3 points
Kerry v Westmeath - Kerry by 7 points

Round 2A
Mayo v Down - Mayo by 2 points
Derry v Meath - Derry by 7 points

Ulster Championship
Round 2
London v Monaghan - London by 8 points
Armagh v Tyrone - Armagh by 15 points

mac85

All Ireland Champions; Galway beat Kilkenny
Munster Champions; Tipperary beat Waterford
Leinster Champions; kilkenny beat Galway
Ulster Champions; Antrim beat Down
Christy Ring Champions; Kerry beat Derry
Nicky Rackard Champions; Roscommon beat louth
Lory Meagher Champions; Longford beat Fermanagh

Christy Ring relegated: Mayo
Nicky Rackard relegated; Tyrone

Christy Ring Cup
Round 2A
Kildare v Wicklow - Kildare by 5 points
Kerry v Westmeath - Kerry by 4 points

Round 2B
Mayo v Down - Down by 6 points
Derry v Meath - Derry by 4 points

Ulster Championship
Round 2
London v Monaghan - London by 8 points
Armagh v Tyrone - Armagh by 6 points

jordainius

Christy Ring Cup
Kerry 3-14 : 2-11 Westmeath
Kildare 1-19 : 1-16 Wicklow
Down 3-19 : 2-12 Mayo
Meath 2-16 : 0-15 Derry

Ulster Championship
London 3-16 : 1-15 Monaghan
Armagh 3-20 : 2-09 Tyrone

Pos Poster Pts BP TS
1st patmac 12 2 14
1st Shamobuc 10 4 14
3rd Hammer Archer 12 1 13
3rd mac85 10 3 13
5th Orizio 10 2 12
5th Pride Fighter 10 2 12
5th windowlicker 8 4 12
8th Arctic89 10 1 11
8th grenache 10 1 11
8th jordainius 10 1 11
8th spideog7 8 3 11
8th Stevecw 10 1 11
8th student2010 10 1 11
14th Gingy 8 1 9
14th unknown13 8 1 9
16th Danno 8 0 8
17th Diabhal Beag 6 0 6


Let me know if you think I made any mistakes! patmac and Hammer Archer correctly called the outcome of all 6 matches while windowlicker and Shamobuc collected 4 bonus points each. Lead jointly held by Shamobuc and patmac!

Next weeks fixtures will be posted tomorrow night or Monday.

Note; Predictions for Ulster champions, Ring champions/runner-up and Ring relegated will now no longer be accepted.

jordainius

Leinster Championship Preliminary Round (venue in brackets) All fixtures on Saturday May 22
Carlow v Laois (Portlaoise)

Christy Ring Cup Quarter Finals
Down v Westmeath (Navan)
Meath v Wicklow (Newbridge)

jordainius

Carlow v Laois - Laois by 8

Down v Westmeath - Westmeath by 3
Meath v Wicklow - Wicklow by 3

Hammer Archer

Carlow v Laois - Laois by 3

Down v Westmeath - Down by 4
Meath v Wicklow - Meath by 5

spideog7

Carlow v Laois - Laois by 7

Down v Westmeath - Westmeath by 6
Meath v Wicklow - Meath by 4

student2010

Carlow v Laois - Laois by 2

Down v Westmeath - Westmeath by 8
Meath v Wicklow - Meath by 1

patmac

Carlow v Laois - Carlow by 2

Down v Westmeath - Down by 2
Meath v Wicklow - Meath by 5

Orizio

Leinster Championship Preliminary Round
Saturday May 22
Carlow v Laois (Portlaoise) - Laois by 4

Christy Ring Cup Quarter Finals
Down v Westmeath (Navan) - Westmeath by 5
Meath v Wicklow (Newbridge) - Wicklow by 4

ShamoBuc

Leinster Championship Preliminary Round
Saturday May 22
Carlow v Laois (Portlaoise) - Laois by 9

Christy Ring Cup Quarter Finals
Down v Westmeath (Navan) - Down by 3
Meath v Wicklow (Newbridge) - Wicklow by 5

FatherTed

Missed last week but here goes:

All-Ireland Champions; Galway beat Kilkenny
Munster Champions; Tipp beat Clare
Leinster champions; Kilkenny beat Galway
Ulster champions; Antrim beat Down
Ring Champions; Westmeath beat Down
Rackard Champions; Armagh beat Roscommon
Meagher Champions; South Down beat Donegal

Ring relegated; Derry
Rackard relegated; Tyrone

For this week:

Carlow v Laois - Laois by 7

Down v Westmeath - Down by 3
Meath v Wicklow - Wicklow by 1

Arctic89

Carlow v Laois - Laois by 5

Down v Westmeath - Westmeath by 3
Meath v Wicklow - Meath by 4

Pride Fighter

Carlow v Laois - Laois by 9

Down v Westmeath - Westmeath by 1
Meath v Wicklow - Meath by 2

windowlicker

Carlow v Laois - Laois by 5

Down v Westmeath - Westmeath by 3
Meath v Wicklow - Meath by 2

Stevecw

Carlow v Laois - Laois by 11

Down v Westmeath - Westmeath by 4
Meath v Wicklow - Meath by 2

Danno

Carlow v Laois - Laois by 5

Down v Westmeath - Down by 1
Meath v Wicklow - Wicklow by 5

mac85

Carlow v Laois - Laois by 6

Down v Westmeath - Down by 3
Meath v Wicklow - Meath by 3