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Who in the flying f*ck is this asshole?

  • 07-05-2010 05:04PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭




    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20004214-503544.html
    Dan Fanelli, a Florida Republican hoping to emerge from a competitive Republican primary field to challenge Democratic Rep. Alan Grayson, has released an ad in which he appears to argue that the United States should engage in racial profiling to fight terror. "Does this look like a terrorist?" he asks in the spot, pointing at a white-haired white man in a tie. Then a darker-skinned man in a black t-shirt enters the frame as Fanelli asks, "or this?"
    "It's time to stop this political correctness and the invasion of our privacy," he says. He then goes on to make an apparent joke about how he wouldn't mind being pulled out of line at the airport if "a good looking, ripped guy without much hair was flying airplanes into the twin towers."
    The Washington Post's Greg Sargent, who first flagged the spot, interviewed Fanelli about it. The candidate, a pilot, insisted the spot wasn't intended to suggest that people with darker skin are more likely to be terrorists. The point, he said, was that people from countries like Iran and Iraq require more security.
    "You can be light and from those countries," he said.
    Fanelli also argued that people from the Middle East should support profiling.
    "If the people that were doing this kind of thing looked like me, even though I'm not the guy doing the terrorist thing I would want to be examined more closely," he told Sargent.
    Contacted for comment, Julie Tagen, a senior advisor to Grayson's campaign, said that "Mr. Fanelli is running in a very crowded Republican field."
    "In the highly-unlikely event that he wins the nomination, Congressman Grayson will comment on his ads, however misguided or offensive they are," she said.

    I have a mind to fedex him some wiki article printouts about white terrorists.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭Pittens


    Still though, we should live little old ladies alone, until Al Queda are wise to our ways.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    wow,

    what an idiot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,470 ✭✭✭Kiwi_knock


    Only in America would someone have such a stupid video and policy but still have a chance of being elected.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Is that for real?
    Looks like something the daily show would make.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    20Cent wrote: »
    Is that for real?
    Looks like something the daily show would make.

    I suspected the onion meself, but the links and the not-as-good production values seem to indicate its real.

    Mind you, for all I know, they might like that kind of thing in Florida.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭Dob74


    Personally I love these attack ads.
    So stupid they put a smile on your face.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Nodin wrote: »
    I suspected the onion meself, but the links and the not-as-good production values seem to indicate its real.

    Mind you, for all I know, they might like that kind of thing in Florida.
    Its a swing state, and nobody I know down there even utters the word republican.

    Not saying they dont probably have a lot of supporters in the more rural districts. I just remember sitting on the floor of the theatre to watch F-9/11 when I was down in Volusia.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭Amerika


    Can’t see the video right now, but from the OP, I get the gist. I won't comment on the politican in question, but personally I’m getting tired of political correctness for the sake of political correctness. Someone needs to speak truth to power.

    Fact is, every one of the terrorist attacks against the U.S. in the last two years (as I recall) were carried out by Muslim jihadists. That’s a mighty high common denominator (can't really get much higher). So until the US government comes out with a “Really Really No Fly List,” maybe we should at least not be afraid to debate the fact that using racial or religious profiling as an aspect of the screening process would simply be one of the smartest tools at our disposal.

    Let the hate posts begin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭billy the squid


    Amerika wrote: »
    Can’t see the video right now, but from the OP, I get the gist. I won't comment on the politican in question, but personally I’m getting tired of political correctness for the sake of political correctness. Someone needs to speak truth to power.

    Fact is, every one of the terrorist attacks against the U.S. in the last two years (as I recall) were carried out by Muslim jihadists.

    How many terrorist attacks have there been in the US in the last two years.

    European-americans have carried out their fair share of terrorist attacks themselves even as far back as the 1960s right up to the recent planned attack on a tennessee courthouse last week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 709 ✭✭✭Exile 1798


    Amerika wrote: »
    Can’t see the video right now, but from the OP, I get the gist. I won't comment on the politican in question, but personally I’m getting tired of political correctness for the sake of political correctness. Someone needs to speak truth to power.

    Fact is, every one of the terrorist attacks against the U.S. in the last two years (as I recall) were carried out by Muslim jihadists. That’s a mighty high common denominator (can't really get much higher). So until the US government comes out with a “Really Really No Fly List,” maybe we should at least not be afraid to debate the fact that using racial or religious profiling as an aspect of the screening process would simply be one of the smartest tools at our disposal.

    Let the hate posts begin.

    If you don't know that there is already "unofficial" profiling of Arab and Muslim travelers, you don't know anything. To make this official would be problematic in the extreme.

    Apart from human rights and legal concerns, an official racial/religious profiling policy would only further alienate normal Muslims. More then that, such a program of racial/religious profiling would likely create a huge hole in security measures that would be white terrorists would walk right through.

    I'd say you'd have to be extremely naive to believe that Al-Queda or any such group couldn't manage to get the odd white American/European convert to do their bidding. Or perhaps a British-Jamaican guy with an un-suspicious name like Richard Reid as has already happened.

    It seems apparent that the calls from the American Right for just such a policy isn't out of any real concern over security, but rather comes from their desire to have their racism officially sanctioned by the Government.

    In the practical sense, I'm happy for an experienced profiler to take a second look at the Syrian tourist on my flight named Mahmoud Al-Hussieni and the Pakistani gentleman named Wasim Khattab. What I don't want is someone like Amerika on the job emboldened by an official policy strip searching those guys 5 times and giving a free pass to John Walker Lindh...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    Amerika wrote: »
    Fact is, every one of the terrorist attacks against the U.S. in the last two years (as I recall) were carried out by Muslim jihadists.

    The Hutaree militia and the rising risk of far-right violence

    Deadly plane attack in Austin is the latest in long line of tax protests

    George Tiller Killed: Abortion Doctor Shot At Church

    Fact is, is that you are wrong in your claims.

    Also, racial profiling will fail spectacularly. Also, trying to do Religious profiling, won't be a whole lot better, after all a Islamic terrorist, can just thrown in a copy of the God delusion in there bag, and claim to be an atheist, or a Bible and claim to be a Christian, and wear a nice big cross, or any other number of methods to avoid be identified as a Muslim.

    Then there are all the other nut jobs, who will slip right on by who belong to various other extremists groups.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,082 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Still, something like the Israeli security system is still considered to be the best in the world by experts, and they profile out the wazoo. But it's not as if they've not had their own Jewish incidents as well.

    Honestly, I think the 'not allowed to profile' thing has been taken a bit too far. Security personnel should not be wasting their time giving extra screening to Norwegian families of five with Granny visiting.

    NTM


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭steelcityblues


    Dan Fanelli = U.S. answer to Alan Partridge!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭kev9100


    Amerika wrote: »
    We should at least not be afraid to debate the fact that using racial or religious profiling as an aspect of the screening process would simply be one of the smartest tools at our disposal.


    Racial profiling would be one of the dumbest things we could do. All it would accomplish is alienate Muslim-Americans and make the lives of non-brown terrorists a lot easier. I'm a liitle bit depressed that you can't actually see that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭billy the squid


    Still, something like the Israeli security system is still considered to be the best in the world by experts, and they profile out the wazoo. But it's not as if they've not had their own Jewish incidents as well.

    Honestly, I think the 'not allowed to profile' thing has been taken a bit too far. Security personnel should not be wasting their time giving extra screening to Norwegian families of five with Granny visiting.

    NTM

    The israelis treat everyone, regardless of race as a potential terrorist. you get on an el al flight and they will probably be able to tell you what you had for breakfast at the customs desk.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,768 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Overheal wrote: »
    Its a swing state, and nobody I know down there even utters the word republican.
    You are joking, right? ;) I'm just too tired after pulling an all nighter to see the craic...

    Republicans in Florida hold the governorship, one US Senate seat, and 15 out of 25 US House seats.

    Source: http://electedlist.com/Florida.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    You are joking, right? ;) I'm just too tired after pulling an all nighter to see the craic...

    Republicans in Florida hold the governorship, one US Senate seat, and 15 out of 25 US House seats.

    Source: http://electedlist.com/Florida.html
    Al Gore?

    Florida carried obama also


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,768 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Overheal wrote: »
    Al Gore?
    Didn't GW win Florida by about 500 votes (or so his brother Gov Jeb Bush claimed)? When I read about the dimpled chads and butterfly ballots of Florida's 2000 presidential, I have to laugh at how GW Bush stole the election. It truly must of been a comedy of errors that elected Bush II back then.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,082 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Didn't GW win Florida by about 500 votes (or so his brother Gov Jeb Bush claimed)? When I read about the dimpled chads and butterfly ballots of Florida's 2000 presidential, I have to laugh at how GW Bush stole the election. It truly must of been a comedy of errors that elected Bush II back then.

    There were a couple of different recounts sponsored by the media afterwards. The conclusion was that had the recounts requested by Gore not been stopped by the courts that Bush would have still won.

    NTM


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭20Cent


    There were a couple of different recounts sponsored by the media afterwards. The conclusion was that had the recounts requested by Gore not been stopped by the courts that Bush would have still won.

    NTM

    Not recounts its the counts I'd be worried about.
    Not to mention the thousands scrubbed off voting lists illegally and dodgy voting machines.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Okay, NOT trying to turn this into a recount thread... just saying: Florida is a Swing State.


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 21,504 Mod ✭✭✭✭Agent Smith


    Never Underestimate the stupidity of some people. Look at overheal :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,401 ✭✭✭Royal Irish


    I'd vote for him for the simple reason I hate political correctness.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,768 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    There were a couple of different recounts sponsored by the media afterwards. The conclusion was that had the recounts requested by Gore not been stopped by the courts that Bush would have still won.
    If this was in fact the case, and not problematic for many of us reflecting on a decade past (I was 12), do you see the craic in that Gore's popular vote roughly exceeded Bush's by a half million, while the final count in Florida determining the election was a mere 500?

    So much for one person, one vote? Federalism wins again with the Electoral College?
    Overheal wrote: »
    just saying: Florida is a Swing State.
    I would have to agree with this statement, because there are a lot of retirees in Florida that probably still dance the swing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭Amerika


    Never Underestimate the stupidity of some people. Look at overheal :pac:

    I THINK NOT! Overheal is one of the few rational characters in the US Politics section. He can and does try to look a both sides of an argument.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭Amerika


    So much for one person, one vote? Federalism wins again with the Electoral College?

    Here, Here! Sometimes good does triumph.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,768 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Amerika wrote: »
    Here, Here! Sometimes good does triumph.
    As it pertains to the 2000 election of Bush-Cheney? :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭Amerika


    As it pertains to the 2000 election of Bush-Cheney? :rolleyes:

    LOL. I rather think of it as the judilicous defeat of Gore-Liberman. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    dance the swing.
    I love going on Charleston craigslist and seeing all the listings for free shag lessons as well.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,768 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Amerika wrote: »
    LOL. I rather think of it as the judilicous defeat of Gore-Liberman. :D
    Well, I seriously doubt that Gore-Liberman could have done worse than Bush-Cheney. But we will never know, and can only speculate in fiction about "Lock Box" Gore-Liberman had they won.

    When future historians look back to the Bush-Cheney presidency, it will not be something that Republicans will take pride in recalling I would bet. Just a few of many failures in judgment:
    • Bush appointing Cox to chair the SEC, along with the deregulation decisions (loved by so many Republicans) that occurred in 2004 that allowed investment banks like Goldman Sachs to run wild; plus the employment cuts in SEC regulators to where the investment banks became defacto self-regulating (i.e., the fox watching the chickens).
    • Wasting hundreds of billions on the Second Gulf War (Iraq II) lasting longer than WWI or WWII, which was originally justified using fear tactics before Congress and the American people based upon (non-existent) weapons of mass destruction, and (erroneous) connections between bin Laden and Saddam Hussein.
    • Doubling the federal deficit during the 8 years between Clinton and Obama, and doing virtually nothing to mitigate the onset of the great recession other than last minute panic billion dollar taxpayer bailouts in 2008.


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