Client R8 and server R12

Spear

http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/bc2-pc-service-update/1088496-client-r8-server-r12-qa.html

Now in QA, but plenty of likable changes.

CelticDemon

Spear wrote: »

http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/bc2-pc-service-update/1088496-client-r8-server-r12-qa.html

Now in QA, but plenty of likable changes.

Fingers crossed.....

Krieg

Gameplay - Countermeasures can be fired when driving a helicopter
Gameplay - Knifing people in the back works again

THANK ****!

The knifing thing was an unbelievable oversight
Countermeasures for choppers sounds brilliant. I must admit, BF2 habits are still with me as there was the odd occasion where I pressed 'X' while I was locked with a missile incoming

youcancallmeal

Interesting weapon tweaks

Slightly increased the damage of the UZI at long range.
The AKs74u now has more felt recoil when aiming.
The G3, VSS, and all SemiAutomatic rifles now settle slightly faster between shots when aiming.
The PKM, Type 88LMG, G3, An94, and 40mm shotgun have returned to their former glory.
Increased the damage of the MG3 to bring it in line with the rest of the LMGs.
Fixed a bug where the Saiga12 with slugs would do too much damage at long range.
Fixed a bug where the SVU would do too little damage at long range.
Fixed a bug where M95 rounds would not kill armored targets with headshots.

I remember somebody saying shortly after the game was released that once they start tweaking the weapons it will be the beginning of a long line of tweaks until support for the games is eventually finished. This seems to be the case.

I'm pretty happy about this

Client - Any points you get while being dead will be added to your score

Ponster

Lots of small fixes that all add up together to make what looks like a great patch.

AnCapaillMor

Until people start whinging that the MG3\PKM\G3 etc is too powerful and everytime you kill someone it'll be "noob<insert random weapon>". Happy they fixed the knifing, stabbed one guy 7 seven times before he turned around and killed me.

Wonda-Boy

Again the RPG is left untouched.....MADNESS. But the knife had to be fixed.

youcancallmeal

Wonda-Boy wrote: »

Again the RPG is left untouched.....MADNESS. But the knife had to be fixed.

Whats wrong with the RPG? If you mean using it on people instead of tanks I think its fine because you pretty much need a direct hit to get a kill with it

Dublin_Gunner

Lots of brilliant fixes, and also reverted some of the weapons back to the way they were.

Lookin forward to this.

BeansBeans

some brilliant fixes reduction in negative mouse acceleration is a bit late but anyway. Points when dead is great too.

Wonda-Boy

youcancallme>al wrote: »

Whats wrong with the RPG? If you mean using it on people instead of tanks I think its fine because you pretty much need a direct hit to get a kill with it

Not with the splash damage add on mate.....:(

Wonda-Boy

When does this patch go live?

Dublin_Gunner

Probably Wednesday I'd say.

The splash damage add-on does feck all for the 40mm, which is a bit stupid. They nerfed that altogether. The RPG & Gustav are still pretty much the same as they were, with the splash damage thing.

Wonda-Boy

I honestly think that EA/DICE got the whole "Noob Tube" thing arse about face....and nerfed the wrong thing. Most peeps who played COD etc see the 40mm nade as the noob tube where I class the noob tube as the CG!!!!

MONGOS! :eek:

Dublin_Gunner

Wonda-Boy wrote: »

I honestly think that EA/DICE got the whole "Noob Tube" thing arse about face....and nerfed the wrong thing. Most peeps who played COD etc see the 40mm nade as the noob tube where I class the noob tube as the CG!!!!

MONGOS! :eek:

Same as myself. I see the 40mm as something which actually requires a bit of skill at range (judging the arc of the projectile, I was a master of it in BF2) where as the CG is point & shoot = kill.

shootermacg

I'd say the CG is limited ammo or the eng has to stay near an ammo crate vs a portable infinite GL for the infantry. As far as the CG goes it is what it is.

But tbh I don't have a problem with either, lots of real powerful weapons for all classes. Lots of options with the shared guns/loadouts.

My pet hate is snipers, but that's life I guess. It's same in cs a sniper would just oneshot at the chokepoints. At least there's none of this macro, drop/aim/shoot crap ala CoD.

I'm pretty happy with what I got for my 40 yoyos the guns seem more accurate than previous BF games and as a former quake3 player I like to think the bullet goes where I aim. I get owned a lot on the TiG server but then that's because of the likes of WOND3rBOY etc . Better players will always pwn you regardless of loadout.

Wonda-Boy

HAHA....I seem to recall getting my balls blown off a few times by you in a tank.....Grrrrrr.

The one thing that really needs to change aswell is the 4 man squads....deffo need to allow more in min 6 I think. See you on the battlefield mate

Dublin_Gunner

Any idea when this is being implemented?

Its badly needed, even just to fix the server browser / friends list issues (though I'm not sure if this will be fixed in the patch).

Spear

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

Any idea when this is being implemented?

Its badly needed, even just to fix the server browser / friends list issues (though I'm not sure if this will be fixed in the patch).

It was delayed from last week due to last minute crashing issues, it's meant to be out early this week.

BeansBeans

Really looking forward to the 40mm Shotgun getting back to the old stats, really enjoy the weapon but its so random at the moment. Release the bloody patch!

At least theyre testing it though, thats a first for dice is it?

Wonda-Boy

Was the patch released yesterday....I turned on my steam and noticed briefly in the corner that BFBC2 had finished updating....????

And the server browser seemed alot snappier.

Spear

Wonda-Boy wrote: »

Was the patch released yesterday....I turned on my steam and noticed briefly in the corner that BFBC2 had finished updating....????

And the server browser seemed alot snappier.

No, you're imagining things. The even more updated build of the patch has even more updated crashes, so it'll be a few days more at least.

Dublin_Gunner

I think we're actually up to R20.

Each revision they've tested they've had to go back to the drawing board due to server crashes.

Probably won't be until next week now...

They give updates on twitter, knobs :rolleyes:
http://twitter.com/Bazajaytee

BeansBeans

Bazajaytee mentioned on the forum today that the new crashes they discovered are due to new content.
I got a little excited then i thought well its probably that SPECACT arse. but if youre really optimistic you can fool yourself into thinking its new maps i suppose

Ponster

BeansBeans wrote: »

Bazajaytee mentioned on the forum today that the new crashes they discovered are due to new content.
I got a little excited then i thought well its probably that SPECACT arse. but if youre really optimistic you can fool yourself into thinking its new maps i suppose

2 new maps which are in fact existing maps but with new modes (squad-rush and squad deathmatch).

Wonda-Boy

Maybe I am dreaming and my new internet connection is better ...LMAO

BeansBeans

Ponster wrote: »

2 new maps which are in fact existing maps but with new modes (squad-rush and squad deathmatch).

Oh right, i forgot about those "new" maps. I thought they were released already really.

spooky donkey

yes I agree its kinda a rip calling them new maps when they are just old maps played a different way.

Dublin_Gunner

Has the patch been implemented yet?

Spear

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

Has the patch been implemented yet?

Nope, now expected early next week.

FJFF

Bet this patch comes out when i'm off on my hols in 3 weeks

Spear

http://planetbattlefield.gamespy.com/fullstory.php?id=162668

Seems the patch is being held hostage by the Romanian transportation system.

shootermacg

Spear wrote: »

http://planetbattlefield.gamespy.com/fullstory.php?id=162668

Seems the patch is being held hostage by the Romanian transportation system.

The guy doing the questioning was a bit of a **** haha, why didn't you just hire a QA dept for 2 days lol what a stupid question!

AnCapaillMor

Latest changelog, nothing on individual gun tweaks.

Changelog:

Server - Some potential sources for lag/rubberbanding have been eliminated
Server - The old reserved slots has been replaced by a kick-on-demand system like in BF2
Server - Log file for server admins: all remote admin interface commands/events are logged
Server - Log file for server admins: major server events + all chat messages are logged
Server - Idle kick is controllable
Server - Profanity filter can be disabled
Server - Teamkill-kick system is controllable
Server - Ticket counts and bleed rate are controllable per-level
Server - Infantry only mode available per-level
Server - Initial spawn delay and respawn delay are adjustable
Server - Server description can be up to 400 characters, and use "|" for line breaks
Server - Banlist can contain up to 10.000 entries
Server - reduced latency in packet handling

Admin Interface - fixed the player.onKill spam that occasionally happened
Admin Interface - ensured that player.onJoin events always report the player name
Admin Interface - events triggered when people spawn
Admin Interface - much more info on kills
Admin Interface - detailed stats are reported at end-of-round

Gameplay - Various minor level bugfixes
Gameplay - Helicopter handling has been tweaked
Gameplay - Weapon tweaks have been implemented based on PC public feedback
Gameplay - Tracer dart gun speed has been changed from 300 m/s to 200 m/s
Gameplay - Fixed technical hang when a crate was armed outside of the combat area
Gameplay - "Victory is near" message was shown for the wrong team on Valparaíso, this has been fixed
Gameplay - Countermeasures can be fired when driving a helicopter
Gameplay - The brightness of the pilot view in the Russian helicopter has been reduced
Gameplay - Advanced Spotting scope works better
Gameplay - Knifing people in the back works again (we backed out the change that we had done for Server R11)
Gameplay - Hit box for moving targets expands based on the speed of the targets movement
Gameplay - G36 now has crosshair when in Hardcore mode

Server Browser - Servers are sorted into 3 categories: Normal, Modified, Hardcore depending on their settings
Server Browser – Added support for retrieving update progress
Server Browser - Now refreshes information
Server Browser - Join queue system when attempting to join a full server
Server Browser - All settings are automatically saved between sessions
Server Browser - Pings are sent via an alternate mechanism, which should work for non-Administrator users as well

Client - Fixed DX9 issue, which likely caused graphics glitches and perhaps crashes
Client - Fixed some crashes
Client - Toggle/hold crouch is user controllable
Client - Toggle/hold zoom is user controllable
Client - Vsync bugfixed for DX10/DX11
Client - Rewritten how settings are written to disk; this should reduce/eliminate the spawn lag
Client - Fixed bug where a player could join a server before the stats has been downloaded causing faulty stats in "EOR- unlock progression"-screen
Client - New chat system allows chatting when dead (but not during end of round) and keeps a 100 lines log
Client - Improved Play Now functionality
Client - Removed K/D ratio and Skill Level filters in the leaderboards
Client - Any points you get while being dead will be added to your score
Client - Reduced negative mouse acceleration
Client - Increased health on the Cobra to match other vehicles
Client - More informative disconnection/kick reasons
Client - Support for SPECACT kits in all game modes
Client - Support for Map Packs so PC gets future VIP maps at the same time as consoles

Spear

AnCapaillMor wrote: »

Latest changelog, nothing on individual gun tweaks.

Slightly increased the damage of the UZI at long range.
The AKs74u now has more felt recoil when aiming.
The G3, VSS, and all SemiAutomatic rifles now settle slightly faster between shots when aiming.
The PKM, Type 88LMG, G3, An94, and 40mm shotgun have returned to their former glory.
Increased the damage of the MG3 to bring it in line with the rest of the LMGs.
Fixed a bug where the Saiga12 with slugs would do too much damage at long range.
Fixed a bug where the SVU would do too little damage at long range.
Fixed a bug where M95 rounds would not kill armored targets with headshots.

AnCapaillMor

Spear wrote: »

The PKM, Type 88LMG, G3, An94, and 40mm shotgun have returned to their former glory.

You're sh1tting me, the AN-94 is lethal at the moment, i'm back on assault now that i got a plat on an LMG. so its going to get better, brilliant!!!


and just had a horrible thought, you with the knife bug fixed.

Spear

AnCapaillMor wrote: »

You're sh1tting me, the AN-94 is lethal at the moment, i'm back on assault now that i got a plat on an LMG. so its going to get better, brilliant!!!


and just had a horrible thought, you with the knife bug fixed.

That means the AN94 is being toned down slightly once more, not buffed even further.

youcancallmeal

AnCapaillMor wrote: »

You're sh1tting me, the AN-94 is lethal at the moment, i'm back on assault now that i got a plat on an LMG. so its going to get better, brilliant!!!

Ha i was just about to say the same thing, AN-94 is easily the best gun in the game now!

Most Irish servers have been quiet for a while now, might see a bit of a pick up in numbers with this patch

TheFairy

We'll switch to Inf only, for a while at least to see how that runs.

Spear

TheFairy wrote: »

We'll switch to Inf only, for a while at least to see how that runs.

I'd be interested to see how that impacts Atacama and the opening of Arica rush. It might actually make them fun.

TheFairy

Should mean the game has natural choke points with full out firefights, if its like BF2 inf only then it should be madness.

youcancallmeal

6 weeks in QA was a bit mad or maybe thats normal, I dunno?

Dublin_Gunner

They've obviously been busy making the Vietnam Mod.

Latest changelog doesnt seem all that much different. I wish they'd just release the damn thing.

AnCapaillMor

Spear wrote: »

I'd be interested to see how that impacts Atacama and the opening of Arica rush. It might actually make them fun.

Atacama should be grand except it'll have alot of running, said it before about africa harbour, it'll be 14 snipers vs 14 with 1 medic and 1 assault making a bucketload of points with revives and ammo points.

TheFairy

Ah but the next version of Wolfcon will have kit limiting in it. This means that if snipers piss off the clan running the server they can limit the number per side.

Wonda-Boy

Glad that the V SYNC has been fixed...wil make for a smoother screen. And I dont care a toss about all the tweaks to the guns....coz they will keep changing them.

Dublin_Gunner

I wish they'd just leave the gins alone, they're never going to be perfect, and you'll have to get used to the 'new' guns all over again. :rolleyes:

AnCapaillMor

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

I wish they'd just leave the gins alone,

I just hope they don't change the vodka's.

Changing guns is a lost cause, you'll have guys whinging about the next set of gun changes. When will EA\Dice learn that forums are full of whingers and will never be happy. I see on some forums guys whinging about gustavs:p

Dublin_Gunner

AnCapaillMor wrote: »

I just hope they don't change the vodka's.

Changing guns is a lost cause, you'll have guys whinging about the next set of gun changes. When will EA\Dice learn that forums are full of whingers and will never be happy. I see on some forums guys whinging about gustavs:p

lol epic typo!

Exactly. Sure, there were some WAY overpowered guns initially, but they've been fixed, and I think the guns are OK now. They should just leave them.

yankinlk

Happy to see my top three complaints in there;
Gameplay - Knifing people in the back works again (we backed out the change that we had done for Server R11)
Client - Any points you get while being dead will be added to your score
Gameplay - The brightness of the pilot view in the Russian helicopter has been reduced

Server - The old reserved slots has been replaced by a kick-on-demand system like in BF2
Does this one mean that we can finally setup reversed slots for regulars to Craggy?

Client - Support for SPECACT kits in all game modes
I don't see anything in there about fixing the bug on the Garand so we can complete the Bronze medals. Now I guess we have to do SPECTAT as well??

Gameplay - Helicopter handling has been tweaked
OH - this could be really good or really bad...seen a demo on youtube and a good heli pilot will clean up!

shootermacg

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

lol epic typo!

I think the guns are OK now. They should just leave them.

The AN94 needed a bit more recoil tbh, if you tap the trigger its full auto with accurate aim and it's the most powerful assault rifle. Might be good to see an assault without one for a change and yes I'm guilty of sticking with it too