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Dow Jones plummets

  • 06-05-2010 6:56pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭


    Just watching the markets on TV and the Dow Jones dropped more than 900 points at one point (almost 10%)

    Think its recovering now but bad day if your an investor

    Hard to get an up to date link http://twitter.com/news10nbc


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    My portfolio took a serious baitin'

    I have to slum it on the iseq tomorrow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭PK2008


    orourkeda wrote: »
    My portfolio took a serious baitin'

    I have to slum it on the iseq tomorrow

    Thats if there is an ISEQ tomorrow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭smellslikeshoes


    Here is a link with some info.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Another bad day on Wall Street. Things are getting ugly. Dow Jones is starting to look more like Paula Jones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,344 ✭✭✭Thoie


    And some commentary from the NY Times. They're trying to rationalise it.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/07/business/07markets.html


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,330 ✭✭✭niallon


    Who is Dow Jones and why did he feel the need to jump?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭PK2008


    Automised computer trading kicked in and selling went nuts, it was like watching a countdown on a stopwatch. Thinks its come back up and stabilised a bit now but worst drop since Lehmans I think.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Do you have any idea how cheap stocks are now? Wall Street is now being called Wal-Mart Street.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭The Pontiac


    This is the effect a country the size of Greece has on the global markets and economies. Imagine the effect it's going to have if Portugal and/or Spain need a bailout, or God forbid the UK.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35 NC27


    When the CAC (cack) is down the sh!t will hit the fan.











    grabs coat



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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Is it just me or has dow trading been reduced to reacting like a spoilt child with no memory?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭PK2008


    <Ollie> wrote: »
    This is the effect a country the size of Greece has on the global markets and economies. Imagine the effect it's going to have if Portugal and/or Spain need a bailout, or God forbid the UK.

    Spot on, except for the UK part, I dont think they're likely to default but contagion could easily see Spain and Portugal in trouble


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    NC27 wrote: »
    When the KAC (cack) is down the sh!t will hit the fan.











    grabs coat


    Down? The Cac? It's just gonna surrender.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,605 ✭✭✭Fizman


    Another bad day on Wall Street. Things are getting ugly. Dow Jones is starting to look more like Paula Jones.

    I reckon more like Iain Dowie.

    http://totallylookslike.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/iain-dowie-totally-looks-like-sloth.jpg

    /shudder


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Does anyone remember when George Bush visited the New York Stock Exchange?

    It was an akward moment when he asked, "So, when do I get to meet Dow Jones?"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭PK2008


    Does anyone remember when George Bush visited the New York Stock Exchange?

    It was an akward moment when he asked, "So, when do I get to meet Dow Jones?"

    ...and his mate Nas Daq


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    The market may be bad, but I slept like a baby last night. I woke up every hour and cried.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭Zombienosh


    the dow jones is like your ma, it doesnt go down often but when it does, it goes down hard.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Just watching on Fox now, the fluctuation is scary, it recovered and fell back a percent in a couple of minutes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭krpc


    PK2008 wrote: »
    ...and his mate Nas Daq

    In Guantanamo, no doubt.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    I don't care, Bob. You're fired. You're fired! You're fúcking fired, Bob! Clean out your locker at the club, Bob. You're fúcking fired! I don't fúcking care what he told you, OK? I'm talking about a million fúcking Deutschmark here, Bob. million fúcking Deutschmark! I told you to wire the money to Geneva last week. I say Geneva, you hear Helsinki, huh?! million fúcking Deutschmark, Bob!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭PK2008


    The pictures of riots in Greece rattled the American investors Id say.

    Almost 1000 point drop in about 10 minutes but looks like its rebounded just as quickly and its gained back about 600 points


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    For any person who taught we were on the road to recovery think again, things are getting worse, Greece is nothing wait until it spreads to Spain and Portugal, these 2 countries are too big to bail out. America has Just threw money at the problem not repaired the faults and they will start to crack in the next few months. Think the 1930's were bad? that was a picnic compared to what we are in for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭The Pontiac


    According to CNBC a trader error may be the cause of the earlier crash. They're looking into the possiblity that a trader entered b for billion instead of m for million in a trade of Procter & Gamble shares. And the Greece crisis didn't help either to even further fuel the panic, I'm sure. Source


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    <Ollie> wrote: »
    According to CNBC a trader error may be the cause of the earlier crash. They're looking into the possiblity that a trader entered b for billion instead of m for million in a trade of Procter & Gamble shares. And the Greece crisis didn't help either to even further fuel the panic, I'm sure. Source

    Yes i read that as well but that only accounted for a small bit of the sell off, it was going downhill fast when he made that error out of panic i presume.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭PK2008


    <Ollie> wrote: »
    According to CNBC a trader error may be the cause of the earlier crash. They're looking into the possiblity that a trader entered b for billion instead of m for million in a trade of Procter & Gamble shares. And the Greece crisis didn't help either to even further fuel the panic, I'm sure. Source

    That is classic :D

    Looks like the grammar nazi's were right all along


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,234 ✭✭✭thetonynator


    For any person who taught we were on the road to recovery think again, things are getting worse, Greece is nothing wait until it spreads to Spain and Portugal, these 2 countries are too big to bail out. America has Just threw money at the problem not repaired the faults and they will start to crack in the next few months. Think the 1930's were bad? that was a picnic compared to what we are in for.


    I love an optimist . . .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭PK2008


    Proctor & Gamble dropped from $62 to $39 and then went back up to $61 in a matter of minutes, meaning if you were quick enough to buy at 39 you would have got a return of almost 33% in a few minutes.

    Someone made a 5hit load on that Id say

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/proctergamble-not-clear-why-share-price-plunged-2010-05-06


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    They closed down 347.8 points. That's a loss of 3.2 per cent.
    Standing at 10,520.32.
    Here is the graph of the dow for the past year or so.
    http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=^DJI
    Here's the one day:
    http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=^DJI&t=1d

    Financial services got hit the worst.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,789 ✭✭✭Caoimhín


    Just generally, if i did have any savings in euro i would be actively changing it into Swiss/German government bonds or gold.

    Quote me in 6 months if you like but the Euro is going to collapse and we will be back to the punt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 444 ✭✭schween


    PK2008 wrote: »
    Proctor & Gamble dropped from $62 to $39 and then went back up to $61 in a matter of minutes, meaning if you were quick enough to buy at 39 you would have got a return of almost 33% in a few minutes.

    Someone made a 5hit load on that Id say

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/proctergamble-not-clear-why-share-price-plunged-2010-05-06

    $40 to $0.01 and back at Accenture...someone is definitely a bit richer.

    http://blogs.wsj.com/marketbeat/2010/05/06/accenture-went-to-a-penny-at-248-pm/


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    schween wrote: »
    $40 to $0.01 and back at Accenture...someone is definitely a bit richer.

    http://blogs.wsj.com/marketbeat/2010/05/06/accenture-went-to-a-penny-at-248-pm/

    Jaysus:eek:,but i doubt many people brought at 1c such was the pace of the turaround.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 276 ✭✭random10


    sorry I have no idea about markets at all but i'm going on holidays to USA in july and need to order dollars. with all this uncertainty am i better to order dollars now or wait a while?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,789 ✭✭✭Caoimhín


    Ahhh, dont worry folks, our billions are safe.

    It is being reported as a technical glitch..

    More to come as my brilliant (but insane) mind researches some more/falls asleep watching Prime Time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭PK2008


    schween wrote: »
    $40 to $0.01 and back at Accenture...someone is definitely a bit richer.

    http://blogs.wsj.com/marketbeat/2010/05/06/accenture-went-to-a-penny-at-248-pm/

    :eek:

    That is insane!! 1 cent???????????

    Something must have happened to the systems, no way Accenture was ever worth 1 cent a share!!!!

    (in saying that I hadnt realised ACN was only $40, thought they were worth more)


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    random10 wrote: »
    sorry I have no idea about markets at all but i'm going on holidays to USA in july and need to order dollars. with all this uncertainty am i better to order dollars now or wait a while?

    Well you can wait until tomorrow if you fancy but I think they just wiped 5 cents or so off of the euro to dollar value as far as I know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,789 ✭✭✭Caoimhín


    random10 wrote: »
    sorry I have no idea about markets at all but i'm going on holidays to USA in july and need to order dollars. with all this uncertainty am i better to order dollars now or wait a while?

    Yep, get your dollars now, the Euro is only going one way. I just wonder if Spain, Portugal, Italy or Ireland will be the last straw for the German taxpayer.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Caoimhín wrote: »
    Yep, get your dollars now, the Euro is only going one way. I just wonder if Spain, Portugal, Italy or Ireland will be the last straw for the German taxpayer.

    Dude it isn't only going one way. It just hit a severe low as a result of a reactionary turn to the Greece situation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭PK2008


    random10 wrote: »
    sorry I have no idea about markets at all but i'm going on holidays to USA in july and need to order dollars. with all this uncertainty am i better to order dollars now or wait a while?

    Euro dropped big time today against the dollar so Id give it a few days to see if it recovers anyway. No telling really it depends on how the Greek issue pans out, plus demand for dollars might go up with the market glitch (has to be a glitch).

    If you reckon the Greek issue is going to get worse then buy your dollars sooner rather than later, but Im not sure my gut is telling me the markets may recover slightly, at least while the dust settles, dont know though, its a risk


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    Guys bear in mind that all Euro notes come with a serial number pertaining to where they were printed, now if Greece leave the euro, the euro notes from Greece will only be worth the conversion rate back to there currency.
    This explains why if you go to countries like Crotia they will check the serial numbers on Euro notes, they would not take any Greek notes prefering instead German euro notes, it might of seemed absurd a few months ago, but folks its far from absurd now so bear this in mind.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,789 ✭✭✭Caoimhín


    Dude it isn't only going one way. It just hit a severe low as a result of a reactionary turn to the Greece situation.

    Mmmm, not sure why the DOW would drop by so much because to the Greek's potential default.

    Must read between the lines sometimes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭PK2008


    Guys bear in mind that all Euro notes come with a serial number pertaining to where they were printed, now if Greece leave the euro, the euro notes from Greece will only be worth the conversion rate back to there currency.
    This explains why if you go to countries like Crotia they will check the serial numbers on Euro notes, they would not take any Greek notes prefering instead German euro notes, it might of seemed absurd a few months ago, but folks its far from absurd now so bear this in mind.

    The EU just approved €110 billion for Greece, aint no way Greece are leaving the EU now.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Caoimhín wrote: »
    Mmmm, not sure why the DOW would drop by so much because to the Greek's potential default.

    Must read between the lines sometimes.

    It was a very volatile market day. Greece was a factor. Not the only one. Crude and financial services got hit bad short term. You're advising somebody to buy dollars from euro at a 13 month low. Perspective is needed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,485 ✭✭✭Thrill


    Guys bear in mind that all Euro notes come with a serial number pertaining to where they were printed, now if Greece leave the euro, the euro notes from Greece will only be worth the conversion rate back to there currency.
    This explains why if you go to countries like Crotia they will check the serial numbers on Euro notes, they would not take any Greek notes prefering instead German euro notes, it might of seemed absurd a few months ago, but folks its far from absurd now so bear this in mind.
    Where do my euros come from? The code breaker

    The 11 digit serial number on every note begins with a prefix which identifies which country issued it.

    German notes begin with an X, Greek notes start with a Y, Spain's have a V, France a U, Ireland T, Portugal M and Italy S.
    Belgium is Z, Cyprus G, Luxembourg 1, Malta F, Netherlands P, Austria N, Slovenia H, Slovakia E and Finland L.

    http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=503732&in_page_id=2


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    PK2008 wrote: »
    The EU just approved €110 billion for Greece, aint no way Greece are leaving the EU now.

    This could well spread and the Euro currency could be gone within a year with only peharps Germany, France and a few other countries holding onto the euro thus the rational behind the currency codes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,789 ✭✭✭Caoimhín


    It was a very volatile market day. Greece was a factor. Not the only one. Crude and financial services got hit bad short term. You're advising somebody to buy dollars from euro at a 13 month low. Perspective is needed.

    Mmmm, well some advised that the property market was at the bottom 12 months ago.

    True though, the FED is printing money like monkeys, my point is the value of the Euro is just going to drop and drop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭PK2008


    It was a very volatile market day. Greece was a factor. Not the only one. Crude and financial services got hit bad short term. You're advising somebody to buy dollars from euro at a 13 month low. Perspective is needed.

    I have to agree, I wouldnt buy the day a drop happens anyway it bound to come back up, even a little and in the short term- this is an extreme market reaction I dont think its going to representative of a consistant drop, I mean it recovered over half of what it lost in a matter of minutes, plus it was at the end of the trading day. I wouldnt be surpirsed if markets came back up another 1-2% tomorrow.

    but nobody knows, so to that person who wants advice about buying dollars, sorry but nobody can tell you mate. If we could we'd be billionaires.

    I dont understand that post about "Greek Euro's", surely a euro is a euro, it doesnt matter where its printed, theyre all worth the same. Sounds like conspiracy theory stuff to me. Plus theres no way Greece would be approved for 110 billion bailout if they were about to secede.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 19,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭L.Jenkins


    Dow Jones shed 900 points, Columbian Coke Merchants will be píssed!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,789 ✭✭✭Caoimhín


    PK2008 wrote: »
    this is an extreme market reaction I dont think its going to representative of a consistant drop

    I believe, or i am led to believe that a large shareholder in Procter and Gamble dumped a massive volume of shares. This caused the market to panic for a few hours but it will be back up by the time the Asian markets open.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Caoimhín wrote: »
    I believe, or i am led to believe that a large shareholder in Procter and Gamble dumped a massive volume of shares. This caused the market to panic for a few hours but it will be back up by the time the Asian markets open.

    Procter & Gamble always makes me think of a bookie with his finger up his ass.


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