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    #32
    eth0_
    Registered Users Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭eth0_


    adser53 wrote: »
    Someone witnessed HIM killing the cat.

    Was there not a thread on here recently where someone stated that whatever way the law is over here, cats are classified as wild animals or vermin or something and not actually as people's property in the same way as dogs are? I'm not condoning it, Jesus that's just wrong, I'm just asking

    Ah. Well in that case, i'm glad the vile man got a criminal record.


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    #33
    adser53
    Registered Users Posts: 849 ✭✭✭adser53


    gaz wac wrote: »
    a few muzzle's should sort that right out !!

    WTF? Cop yourself on. Hows a muzzle going to sort that out? My dogs are already confined and under control. So I should also muzzle them IN MY OWN GARDEN because some tosser lets his cats roam free all day? Good plan Batman. Maybe I should get them all debarked aswell? Or maybe just go all the way and have all four of them put to sleep for the sake of the poor ickle puddy cats next door?


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    #34
    20goto10
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    adser53 wrote: »
    Someone witnessed HIM killing the cat.

    Was there not a thread on here recently where someone stated that whatever way the law is over here, cats are classified as wild animals or vermin or something and not actually as people's property in the same way as dogs are? I'm not condoning it, Jesus that's just wrong, I'm just asking
    Cats can be wild or domestic. A wild cat can be destroyed because they spread disease, but it must be done by a vet afaik.

    My cat was attacked by a dog once. The owner told me to fcuk off when I confronted him about it. I got on to the RSPCA and they fined him 500 euro for having his dog off the lead and for cruelty to animals. He refused to pay it so they destroyed the dog instead. Not saying it's right but it was his choice to sacrifice his dog for the sake of 500 euro.

    The reason a cat doesn't need a licence is because they are not a danger to humans. It doesn't mean you can kill or torture them.


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    #35
    STForSale
    Registered Users Posts: 374 ✭✭STForSale


    crotalus667 wrote: »

    My cousin lost most of his sight when he was young due to paracites in cat poo

    This is called toxoplasmosis, a parasite commonly found in cat feces.
    Cat owners conveniently forget about this when claiming how harmless their animals are.
    My advise is to email minister@environ.ie and lobby for cat controls similar to that placed on dog owners, that's what I have done.


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    #36
    20goto10
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    STForSale wrote: »
    This is called toxoplasmosis, a parasite commonly found in cat feces.
    Cat owners conveniently forget about this when claiming how harmless their animals are.
    My advise is to email minister@environ.ie and lobby for cat controls similar to that placed on dog owners, that's what I have done.
    it's true but it's a myth that it's a cat parasite.
    Toxoplasmosis comes from bacteria in raw meat, which yea cats can sometimes eat, but that would be wild cats you're talking about there. As I've said if you bring a wild cat to a vet it will be destroyed unless an owner is found.


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    #37
    planetX
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    Maybe a need in a very densely populated area. I can't see any need for this in the countryside. If you have farmyards attracting mice and rats there's nothing better than a few cats. Unless you people on the animal board think using poison is a better way of life. I don't understand that mentality.
    I've had cats all my life, they sit on the car, and have NEVER left the tiniest mark. Metal isn't pleasant to scratch...


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    #38
    Zulu
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    20goto10 wrote: »
    ... but that would be wild cats you're talking about there.
    How come? Do domestic cat's not get the same if they eat raw meat? :confused:


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    #39
    neelyohara
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    20goto10 wrote: »
    it's true but it's a myth that it's a cat parasite.
    Toxoplasmosis comes from bacteria in raw meat...

    This is true. Yes it is found in cat feces (AND other animals) but the most common way to pick up Toxoplasmosis is via raw meat.

    I know this as I have Toxoplasmosis, I've suffered from it in the past and have spent many hours and days in hospitals dealing with specialists.


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    #40
    STForSale
    Registered Users Posts: 374 ✭✭STForSale


    Yes but there is no raw meat in my garden, nor is their animal droppings of any other variety other than cats.
    The only risk of a member of my family contracting toxoplasmosis is from the
    ample amounts of cat 5hit in my garden that the neighbourhood cats deposit on a daily basis.


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    #41
    20goto10
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    Zulu wrote: »
    How come? Do domestic cat's not get the same if they eat raw meat? :confused:

    A domestic cat will not eat raw meat unless you feed it to it or if it's neglected and starving and happens upon a piece. It's possible the kid ate some raw meat directly but many will believe the myth and jump to the conclusion the kid got it from cat poo.


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    #42
    20goto10
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    STForSale wrote: »
    Yes but there is no raw meat in my garden, nor is their animal droppings of any other variety other than cats.
    The only risk of a member of my family contracting toxoplasmosis is from the
    ample amounts of cat 5hit in my garden that the neighbourhood cats deposit on a daily basis.
    Or maybe you're a bad cook. I can jump to conclusions too.


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    #43
    saraz86
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    STForSale wrote: »
    This is called toxoplasmosis, a parasite commonly found in cat feces.
    Cat owners conveniently forget about this when claiming how harmless their animals are.
    My advise is to email minister@environ.ie and lobby for cat controls similar to that placed on dog owners, that's what I have done.

    AghH! the neighbours cat is prowling around my flowerbeds as i type!


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    #44
    STForSale
    Registered Users Posts: 374 ✭✭STForSale


    It is not a myth, contact with cat's feces IS a cause of toxoplasmosis infection if the cat is carrying the disease.
    I wasn't aware I had made a conclusion?


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    #45
    20goto10
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    It's a myth that it is a cat parasite and that all cat poo causes it or even that cat poo is the main cause. Read the post above from someone who has had it.

    If you want sone constructive advice, there's things you can do to stop the cats going in your garden. The best would be to chuck some water over it. Get yourself a super soaker and blast the hell out of it. It might take a couple of goes but the cat will get the message.


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    #46
    STForSale
    Registered Users Posts: 374 ✭✭STForSale


    I've tried all the deterrants, these things cost money and I have better things to do.
    Why is this my problem, the onus should be on the owner of the animal to behave responsibly, as is the case with dogs.

    A dog craps in my garden, the owner either cleans it up or faces a fine.
    A cat craps in my garden.......

    Why is this so hard for you to understand?


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    #47
    Ticktactoe
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    Zulu wrote: »
    It's not cats vs dogs, its considerate pet owners vs complacent pet owners.

    Using cats owners and dog owners.
    Zulu wrote: »
    Then don't! Just secure your garden, and prevent them from getting into mine! .

    Chances are I dont live near you.
    Zulu wrote: »
    A bit of consideration for your neighbors wouldn't go astray..

    Are you suggesting Im not considerate to my neighbours? Did I state that my cats go roaming into to the neighbours gardens. I said I dont lock them in the whole time.
    Zulu wrote: »
    It's not that complicated really.

    I never said it was.

    :)


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    #48
    20goto10
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    STForSale wrote: »
    I've tried them all, these things cost money and I have better things to do.
    Why is this my problem, the onus should be on the owner of the animal to behave responsibly, as is the case with dogs.

    A dog craps in my garden, the owner either cleans it up or faces a fine.
    A cat craps in my garden.......
    Clearly it is your problem. A cat owner is not responsible for it's cats poo nor should they be. You cannot take a cat for a walk on a lead. They're different animals. You dont get it that's fine. Ignorance is not a good enough reason to enforce dog laws onto cats.


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    #49
    STForSale
    Registered Users Posts: 374 ✭✭STForSale


    Ignorance?
    All I can say is send the email off people, this situation and the attitude of above poster is not acceptable to me, nor should it be to you.
    minister@environ.ie


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    #50
    pegasus1
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    Zulu wrote: »
    How come? Do domestic cat's not get the same if they eat raw meat? :confused:

    yes but a domesticated cat would have a high percentage of his/her intake via cat food from your local shop's.....which i believe is precooked.

    if there were no cats in the neighborhood i would think that you might get an even greater disease from the abundance of rats who pee everywhere they go inc. your furniture on your patio and can even squeeze into a very small hole into any house, etc


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    #51
    adser53
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    20goto10 wrote:
    Clearly it is your problem. A cat owner is not responsible for it's cats poo nor should they be. You cannot take a cat for a walk on a lead. They're different animals. You dont get it that's fine. Ignorance is not a good enough reason to enforce dog laws onto cats.

    So thats it? Youre answere is it's a cat, it can crap everywhere, what can you do?!:eek:

    I think I'll get a pet badger or better yet, a pet elephant and let it roam in my neighbours gardens. Sure it's a wild animal so it $hitting everywhere isn't my problem :rolleyes:

    I have seen people walking cats on leads (looks pretty ridiculous tbh) and there's a difference between ignorance and stating that it's just wrong that a DOMESTICATED animal OWNED by someone, has the right to go into other peoples property and crap and it's not the owners problem. If cats where confined to their owners gardens, this would solve the problem. I don't see whats hard to understand or ignorant about that opinion. Yes they are different animals but no other pets roam free like they do. If my on leash dog walked through your garden, pooped and scraped a bit of loose soil over the top of it, would that be ok with you?


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    #52
    pegasus1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭pegasus1


    STForSale wrote: »
    I've tried all the deterrants


    have you tried lion poop?


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    #53
    20goto10
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    No other animals roam like they do because no other animal is a cat. The facts are they are clean animals and bury their poo. If they were going around causing toxoplasmosis then there would be something done about it. But the fact is it's total bs.


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    #54
    STForSale
    Registered Users Posts: 374 ✭✭STForSale


    Replace the cat 5hit with a bigger cat's 5hit, ehhh, no?
    but I am intrigued, do go on.


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    #55
    20goto10
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    They also have a commercial purpose to protect agricultural land from vermin. How does that work if the farmer had to follow it around with a pooper scooper?


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    #56
    pegasus1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭pegasus1


    STForSale wrote: »
    Replace the cat 5hit with a bigger cat's 5hit, ehhh, no?
    but I am entrigued, do go on.

    a cat will in no way poop in a garden that has the scent of a lion and the easiest way to do this is ask a friendly zoo keeper for some lion poop! google it


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    #57
    crotalus667
    Registered Users Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭crotalus667


    20goto10 wrote: »
    No other animals roam like they do because no other animal is a cat.
    there are lots of animals that roam like cats if alowed to so that argument falls flat on it's face
    20goto10 wrote: »
    The facts are they are clean animals and bury their poo.
    I have often cleared cat poo from my crandmothers path way

    20goto10 wrote: »
    If they were going around causing toxoplasmosis then there would be something done about it. But the fact is it's total bs.
    The fact is it is not total bs and health boards have spent alot of money
    over the years warning about about it .


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    #58
    STForSale
    Registered Users Posts: 374 ✭✭STForSale


    pegasus1 wrote: »
    a cat will in no way poop in a garden that has the scent of a lion and the easiest way to do this is ask a friendly zoo keeper for some lion poop! google it

    If this actually worked, i'd give it a whirl.
    I'm off to ask google.
    Thanks


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    #59
    crotalus667
    Registered Users Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭crotalus667


    20goto10 wrote: »
    They also have a commercial purpose to protect agricultural land from vermin.
    there are much more effective ways at controling vermin that letting cats roam


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    #60
    20goto10
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    crotalus667 wrote: »

    I have often cleared cat poo from my crandmothers path way

    did it have a name tag on it saying cat poo?


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    #61
    planetX
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    Why so many animal haters on the pet board? I've never met a single person who objects to cats. I find this discussion weird.


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