Based on my age-Dole??

Con1991

Right,I don't know if this is in the right section,but I don't really care.Basically I am 19 years old,have been receiving dole since March,left school at the end of April last year and have failed to find work.Eventually I chose the last resort.I know that people aged 18-22 are now receiving €100 a week,but on the welfare site it states a few exceptions to these rules.

These include participating in educational courses,and claimants with dependants.

But it also says that IF YOU WERE AT LEAST 18 YEARS OF AGE ON OR BEFORE THE 30TH DECEMBER 2009,AND BECAME UNEMPLOYED ON OR BEFORE 28TH APRIL 2009-YOU SHOULD RECEIVE €196 EVERY WEEK NOT €100.

Now I was 18 then,and I left school on the 26th April 2009.What should I be receiving???I know I did not put in a claim then,but I was the age specified in the rules....

ondarack

call to your local office and explain your situation. i dont think you will get more than 100 though,i think that is the correct rate for someone your age,living at home etc....

Con1991

Yes well I intend to go in and discuss it with them,but after reading those rules on the website,I am amazed i am not receiving the correct rate now.Even living at home,there is not much you can do with €100 a week,trust me.

Gavin "shels"

Con1991 wrote: »

Even living at home,there is not much you can do with €100 a week,trust me.

I live at home and wouldn't spend more than €100 a week, that's going out usually twice a week too. I'm 19, full time student and part time worker.

Con1991

Well,I agree it is possible to go out the odd night,buy a few drinks9I actually don't drink myself)etc.But I also try to save,which is very difficult.I don't think since I started getting SW that I've ever spent the full amount in one week,but you have to watch that sort of money very carefully.I didn't know you could get SW as a student unless you were doing a Fas course or Youthreach.If it is possible,I may actually go back and do the Leaving cert.How do you go about that?

dudara

Moved to State Benefits

dudara

Balagan

Con1991 wrote: »

Right,I don't know if this is in the right section,but I don't really care.Basically I am 19 years old,have been receiving dole since March,left school at the end of April last year and have failed to find work.Eventually I chose the last resort.I know that people aged 18-22 are now receiving €100 a week,but on the welfare site it states a few exceptions to these rules.

These include participating in educational courses,and claimants with dependants.

But it also says that IF YOU WERE AT LEAST 18 YEARS OF AGE ON OR BEFORE THE 30TH DECEMBER 2009,AND BECAME UNEMPLOYED ON OR BEFORE 28TH APRIL 2009-YOU SHOULD RECEIVE €196 EVERY WEEK NOT €100.

Now I was 18 then,and I left school on the 26th April 2009.What should I be receiving???I know I did not put in a claim then,but I was the age specified in the rules....

It's likely that as you would not have been eligible for Jobseekers Allowance for three months after you left school, you would not have been viewed as unemployed until 26 July 2009.

eth0_

Con1991 wrote: »

Well,I agree it is possible to go out the odd night,buy a few drinks9I actually don't drink myself)etc.But I also try to save,which is very difficult.

You're not on the dole to "save", you're on the dole to survive. You're not entitled to €196 a week because you didn't sign on until March this year.

To be frank, your attitude is one of massive self-entitlement. You quit school presumably without even sitting your leaving cert, making it extremely hard for yourself to find work, you're only 19 and you live at home so your overheads must be extremely low.

The higher rate of dole is for people who have actually been paying PRSI for an extended period of time and are old enough to have debts or a partner to support etc.

Con1991

I am well aware that the dole is survival money,money to bridge the gap until we find employment.And I may be viewing it in the wrong way,but unfortunately it is the only source of 'income' I can get right now.I attempted the Leaving cert,but no I did not complete it,which I regret now but jobs are still hard to find.I've lost count of the number of jobs I've applied for.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Con1991 wrote: »

I am well aware that the dole is survival money,money to bridge the gap until we find employment.And I may be viewing it in the wrong way,but unfortunately it is the only source of 'income' I can get right now.I attempted the Leaving cert,but no I did not complete it,which I regret now but jobs are still hard to find.I've lost count of the number of jobs I've applied for.

Just remember one thing, it's not ok to make sacrifices and save your money, but it is ok to piss it up against the wall, or to spend on smokes, or whatever...

Jasonw

You know what? you should try being self-employed, contributing over €100,000 to the exchequer over the boom years and see how much you are entitled to when you can't find work.




FYI it's exactly NOTHING.

I've spent the last year living off my savings which are now just about gone. I'd be so lucky to be getting €100 a week.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Jesus christ, the OP is looking for a bit of advice, who are ye to judge him exactly?

Op, somebody somewhere will have an answer for ya, just ignore the begrudgers

longhalloween

eth0_ wrote: »

You're not on the dole to "save", you're on the dole to survive. You're not entitled to €196 a week because you didn't sign on until March this year.

To be frank, your attitude is one of massive self-entitlement. You quit school presumably without even sitting your leaving cert, making it extremely hard for yourself to find work, you're only 19 and you live at home so your overheads must be extremely low.

The higher rate of dole is for people who have actually been paying PRSI for an extended period of time and are old enough to have debts or a partner to support etc.

Although you are a moderator I have to say thats a very shallow and self-serving view you have. What about my case, in 21, finished my leaving, finished 3 years in college and theres no work for me so I have to sign on. I have 38 PRSI contribution (1 less than required for JA) as I worked my ass of to put myself through school so i can only claim JB.

I lived off my savings since finishing college, not wanting to sponge off the govt but finally I had to give in. They told me my claim would take 5 weeks to process and the was 9 weeks ago, a quick call today confirmed that it would take another 3 weeks to get any money.

I may not be 'old' enough to have a family or debts, and no one can find work anywhere but are young people any less entitled to benefit than anyone else?

eth0_

If you're living at home and are only 19 then your overheads are minute and I thought the OP had a cheek to think he could be considered a special case in order to get 196 a week.

And - declaration of interest here - I am also on the dole so i'm not looking down my nose at the unemployed.

dudara

longhalloween wrote: »

Although you are a moderator

eth0_ is not a moderator in this forum - therefore there is exactly zero difference between eth0_ and any other poster.

Moderators only carry weight in the forums they moderate. Please check their list of forums before making such comments.

dudara

cee_jay

OP you didn't register as unemployed with Social Welfare until March so therefore are not entitled to 196 a week. Your rate of pay will be 100 euro a week, minus any means.
Also as someone else stated, you cannot claim until 3 months after finishing secondary school, so if you did claim at the time, that would only go from June 2009, which is past the April 2009 date.

Lads, word of warning to everyone, please keep posts on topic and helpful. Nobody comes here looking to be judged. If you have a problem with a post use the report post function.

Balagan

dudara wrote: »

eth0_ is not a moderator in this forum - therefore there is exactly zero difference between eth0_ and any other poster.

Moderators only carry weight in the forums they moderate. Please check their list of forums before making such comments.

dudara

With respect, this is a cop out. If someone, such as eth0_ posts on here with the word 'moderator' under his or her name, it does, for all intents and purposes, carry weight and is not only upsetting for those they slap down and those who view such postings but also reflects badly on all boards.ie moderators. Surely, it should not be the responsibility of users of the forum to check out the peramaters of the 'authority' of different moderators but up to boards.ie to tighten up the system whereby moderators can use such a title while posting in forums that they do not moderate.

danbohan

longhalloween wrote: »

Although you are a moderator I have to say thats a very shallow and self-serving view you have. What about my case, in 21, finished my leaving, finished 3 years in college and theres no work for me so I have to sign on. I have 38 PRSI contribution (1 less than required for JA) as I worked my ass of to put myself through school so i can only claim JB.

I lived off my savings since finishing college, not wanting to sponge off the govt but finally I had to give in. They told me my claim would take 5 weeks to process and the was 9 weeks ago, a quick call today confirmed that it would take another 3 weeks to get any money.

I may not be 'old' enough to have a family or debts, and no one can find work anywhere but are young people any less entitled to benefit than anyone else?

your 21 , you have no ties , get up off your ass and find a job , its a big big WORLD out there ,this is a small corrupt little pond , dont be destroying your life waiting on handouts

eth0_

Balagan wrote: »

With respect, this is a cop out. If someone, such as eth0_ posts on here with the word 'moderator' under his or her name, it does, for all intents and purposes, carry weight and is not only upsetting for those they slap down and those who view such postings but also reflects badly on all boards.ie moderators. Surely, it should not be the responsibility of users of the forum to check out the peramaters of the 'authority' of different moderators but up to boards.ie to tighten up the system whereby moderators can use such a title while posting in forums that they do not moderate.

WRONG. The rules of boards.ie state that my views are my own and can only "carry weight" on the forums that I actually moderate.

Am I expected to never ever express my personal opinion anywhere on boards.ie because of the possibility I might offend you? :rolleyes:

And as for checking my 'authority' - is it too much effort for you to simply shift your eyes a few inches to the left to see that I moderate the mac and work & jobs forum and *not* the state benefits forum?

Now, you've dragged this thread off topic again and the OP's question has been answered several times. Time to drop it, methinks.

eth0_

danbohan wrote: »

your 21 , you have no ties , get up off your ass and find a job , its a big big WORLD out there ,this is a small corrupt little pond , dont be destroying your life waiting on handouts

In fairness, he has said he's applying for lots of jobs and having no luck. However, I hope he's at least giving himself a fighting chance by signing up to do a FAS course in order to make himself more attractive to prospective employers.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

danbohan wrote: »

your 21 , you have no ties , get up off your ass and find a job , its a big big WORLD out there ,this is a small corrupt little pond , dont be destroying your life waiting on handouts

If only 450K other people thought same... :rolleyes:


What jobs are you talking about exactly?

Balagan

eth0_ wrote: »

WRONG. The rules of boards.ie state that my views are my own and can only "carry weight" on the forums that I actually moderate.

Am I expected to never ever express my personal opinion anywhere on boards.ie because of the possibility I might offend you? :rolleyes:

And as for checking my 'authority' - is it too much effort for you to simply shift your eyes a few inches to the left to see that I moderate the mac and work & jobs forum and *not* the state benefits forum?

Now, you've dragged this thread off topic again and the OP's question has been answered several times. Time to drop it, methinks.

You are expected to abide by the forum charter just like everyone else and you have certainly proved yourself, on more than one occasion, unable to do that. You'd have to be capable of moderating yourself before you could possibly moderate anyone else. Methinks.

danbohan

Dane Clean Bathhouse wrote: »

If only 450K other people thought same... :rolleyes:


What jobs are you talking about exactly?

ok no jobs here , posibly ,maybe. , its a small island , 4 million peole , a tiny speck in terms of global population and opportunity , he is 21 ,no house no kids etc etc so go somewhere else where you can get a job , canada , germany ,singapore , australia , might not be great job but you will learn a lot , see new things , gain experience , none of which you will by staying here on benefit or a fas course

eth0_

danbohan, that's easy to say but if he has no money how can he do that? I'm lucky i'm on JSB which I can transfer to any EU country for 3 months, so i'm doing that and moving to London at the end of the month because the job situation in my profession looks a lot better than it does here.

The OP must be on JSA so he doesn't have the option to do that.

jor el

Balagan wrote: »

You are expected to abide by the forum charter just like everyone else and you have certainly proved yourself, on more than one occasion, unable to do that. You'd have to be capable of moderating yourself before you could possibly moderate anyone else. Methinks.

You've been warned twice already about this, I suggest you stop posting on this thread right now if you can't stick to the topic at hand.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

danbohan wrote: »

ok no jobs here , posibly ,maybe. , its a small island , 4 million peole , a tiny speck in terms of global population and opportunity , he is 21 ,no house no kids etc etc so go somewhere else where you can get a job , canada , germany ,singapore , australia , might not be great job but you will learn a lot , see new things , gain experience , none of which you will by staying here on benefit or a fas course

Not everybody can travel for whatever reasons, be it personality, finance or medical.

Also, there is a lot to be said for fas courses. Whatever your perception of them is.

Con1991

Actually I registered back in August 2009.But it took them that long to actually process my claim.But it was after April 2009 and yes you do have to be out of school 3 months before signing on.So I understand now.I am registered with FAS,but the waiting lists are constantly holding me back.That is the only way to get full the amount for people my age.

Con1991

Con1991 wrote: »

That is the only way to get full the amount for people my age.

As far as I know, FAS will match Social Welfare. So you're not going to get the €196 off them (again, that's only as far as I know).

OP you'd be better off going Back to Education to get the leaving cert (I believe you said you don't have it?). That's what I'm doing (also 21) and I'm hoping that, even if I don't pass it when it's all said and done, it'll give me something to do.

Clown Shoes

Con, It´s a grim situation jobs wise but there are the usual menial jobs available like McDonald´s and Burger King. Now I know that you probably won´t even countenance that right now but please read on.

There´s a real chance right now that the ~100e you´re supported with may not be worth the paper its printed on this time next year. The currency is in real trouble and we could be using punts, pounds or who knows what for money. The unfortunate thing is that welfare recipients will get pasted if this happens, their payments will not increase in tandem with the real currency depreciation and value. Wage earners won´t either, but will see their earnings at least lag with inflation. Treat a job like an investment.You´ll be in a much stronger position.

Balagan

Con1991 wrote: »

Actually I registered back in August 2009.But it took them that long to actually process my claim.But it was after April 2009 and yes you do have to be out of school 3 months before signing on.So I understand now.I am registered with FAS,but the waiting lists are constantly holding me back.That is the only way to get full the amount for people my age.

If you haven't already, check this out about the Youthreach programmes. http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/education/vocational-education-and-training/training-and-apprentiship-programmes/youthreach

It would give you a way to continue with your education and the allowance for someone your age would equal the full amount of Jobseekers Allowance. The courses run year round so you can apply to join a course at any time.

Balagan

Deleted User wrote: »

As far as I know, FAS will match Social Welfare. So you're not going to get the €196 off them (again, that's only as far as I know).
.

Fas doesn't pay any allowance to new entrants who are not entitled to JB or JA, but the training allowance for someone over 18 who has that entitlement is the full €196.00 plus any add ons to which they are entitled.

Balagan

Balagan wrote: »

Fas doesn't pay any allowance to new entrants who are not entitled to JB or JA, but the training allowance for someone over 18 who has that entitlement is the full €196.00 plus any add ons to which they are entitled.

Ah I see. Your're correct

Clown Shoes wrote: »

There´s a real chance right now that the ~100e you´re supported with may not be worth the paper its printed on this time next year. The currency is in real trouble and we could be using punts, pounds or who knows what for money. The unfortunate thing is that welfare recipients will get pasted if this happens, their payments will not increase in tandem with the real currency depreciation and value. Wage earners won´t either, but will see their earnings at least lag with inflation. Treat a job like an investment.You´ll be in a much stronger position.

What an absolutely mental post.

Con1991

No.It clearly states that one of the exceptions to the cut's for under 24's is those participating in a full time course of education(Fas,Youthreach,LTI etc).But things may now have changed.I think the idea is to make younger people go back to education,it is an incentive.

Con1991

I can't begin to tell you the trouble I had trying to get in the door of my nearest Youthreach centre,Fr Mathew St Cork.The coordinator Des Cullinane,said to ring him back the first time I rang.I have been ringing for over a month now and I cannot get hold of him.Was told by Youthreach in Dean street I was pretty much 'too old' and they cater mainly for 16-17 year olds.Everywhere else is either too far away,or areas I would rather avoid.So that is why I am now looking at Fas ao BTEA.

eth0_

Con1991 wrote: »

No.It clearly states that one of the exceptions to the cut's for under 24's is those participating in a full time course of education(Fas,Youthreach,LTI etc).But things may now have changed.I think the idea is to make younger people go back to education,it is an incentive.

AFAIK you only get 196 per week on BTEA if you are doing a degree level course or a Hdip. Also, don't you have to be on JSB to be entitled to BTEA? You have to have enough PRSI stamps to be entitled to it.

eth0_

eth0_ wrote: »

AFAIK you only get 196 per week on BTEA if you are doing a degree level course or a Hdip. Also, don't you have to be on JSB to be entitled to BTEA? You have to have enough PRSI stamps to be entitled to it.

I'll be doing my Leaving Cert (hopefully) in the Louth VEC, and though I'm on JSA, I'll be paid €196 whilst I'm doing it.

Don't ow if they're operated any different though.

OP; If you plan to go back to education, try to do it this year. I love the Irish sense of entitlement, but I don't see the BTE allowance sticking around for too long. Not in it's current form anyway. I reckon it'll be severely reduced/cut in the 2010 budget.

Balagan

eth0_ wrote: »

AFAIK you only get 196 per week on BTEA if you are doing a degree level course or a Hdip. Also, don't you have to be on JSB to be entitled to BTEA? You have to have enough PRSI stamps to be entitled to it.

You can even do second level on BTEA as long as you qualify and don't have to be on JSB.

http://www.welfare.ie/EN/Publications/SW70/Pages/ABacktoEducationAllowanceBTEA.aspx

Balagan

Con1991 wrote: »

I can't begin to tell you the trouble I had trying to get in the door of my nearest Youthreach centre,Fr Mathew St Cork.The coordinator Des Cullinane,said to ring him back the first time I rang.I have been ringing for over a month now and I cannot get hold of him.Was told by Youthreach in Dean street I was pretty much 'too old' and they cater mainly for 16-17 year olds.Everywhere else is either too far away,or areas I would rather avoid.So that is why I am now looking at Fas ao BTEA.

You won't qualify for BTEA until you're 21. You are eligible for Youthreach as you are between 15 and 20. There is a great demand now, so you may have to go and make a polite nuisance of yourself at the office to show you are serious. Good luck with everything.

Con1991

Well I did hear that,so why in god's name did the fool coordinator of Youthreach Dean Street Cork,tell me I'd be better of doing BTEA??Ideally the course I want is one that allows me to do an ordinary level Leaving cert,something i probably could do with my eyes closed,but I got too big for my boots and left making it even harder now.Oh,and I thought Youthreach was until 21 or 25??

Balagan

It may be possible that what was mentioned to you was the Back to Education Initiative for which you would be eligible now

http://www.corkvec.ie/community_education/btei.shtml

but, unlike with Youthreach and Fas courses, your social welfare payment would remain at its present rate although course fees are waived for those on JSA.

With regard to age and Youthreach, to be eligible you have to be between 15 and 20 and I assume if you got at 19 they would allow you to finish your one or two year course, which seems the length of courses offered. You would need to check this.

kellyj77

Hi

I have just been made redundant in my job. Its a funny situation. I amm 22 and have been working part time for the last 7 years. I was in school and then college. I finished a 4 year course 3 weeks ago and have been working full time since. Now as i said i have just been made redundant. Does anyone have any idea what i will be entitled to? I have a 7 month baby and a car by the way if that makess a difference. I just dont have a clue at the moment what my entitlements are as 100 a week will barely do me and the baby. Any help is appreciated

me8989

kellyj77 wrote: »

Hi

I have just been made redundant in my job. Its a funny situation. I amm 22 and have been working part time for the last 7 years. I was in school and then college. I finished a 4 year course 3 weeks ago and have been working full time since. Now as i said i have just been made redundant. Does anyone have any idea what i will be entitled to? I have a 7 month baby and a car by the way if that makess a difference. I just dont have a clue at the moment what my entitlements are as 100 a week will barely do me and the baby. Any help is appreciated

Are you a single parent? If so you're entitled to lone parents allowance.
You could apply for rent allowance too.
check out, welfare.ie all the info is there. good luck

kellyj77

like im the dad...i live at home with my mum and brother. my brother is in college and unemployed and my mum works part time

me8989

kellyj77 wrote: »

like im the dad...i live at home with my mum and brother. my brother is in college and unemployed and my mum works part time

You should be entitled to JSA http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/social-welfare/social-welfare-payments/unemployed-people/jobseekers-allowance