Free Country, My A**!

Liathroidi Dana

Recently I've been reading the book 1984. And its really got me thinking about the world we live in today. Are we really that far apart from a totalitarian society?

For example, the whole recent thing about headshops being made illegal. Now Who's choice is it, to say whether or not people can take these drugs. Why should the government control what I do? It should be my choice, with consequences that I should have to face. Is it not my life to live? The way that I see fit? I personally have no interest in these drugs but its the principle that counts.

The thing that annoys me is that no matter how valid my argument might be, I'll always just be seen as some random prick on the Internet...

Am I wrong in thinking this or what?

starbelgrade

Headshops? Talk to Joe.

Mr. Incognito

VIVA LA REVOLUTION.

Or go get drunk and stop thinking so hard about stuff.

Free country, google anarchy and see what it says.

bronte

Don't you mean 1984?

WindSock

There's a prequel to 1984? (story book, not year)

Edit: Damn you, brontesaurus.

Liathroidi Dana

bronte wrote: »

Don't you mean 1984?

And thats what I get for not proof-reading...

bronte

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Well op, who's going to pay for the healthcare for the people taking these drugs when they end up in hospital? Same people screaming "I can put what I want in my body" will be crying and whinging for free medical care...

MistyCheese

I agree. Wholeheartedly.

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Mrmoe

No such thing as a free country, free society free anything really. If you like having roads , schools etc then you need a system where there are rules. Sometimes not everybody agrees so the same rules but that is life. It is better to not get too worked up about it until you get to a position to change it. Even then it will be something transient for your genertion only.

PhysiologyRocks

Rules help keep the fun on an even keel!

starbelgrade

Recently I've been reading the book 2010. It's based in the future where Ireland has become bankrupt, there's drugs for sale in every 2nd corner shop, there are towns inhabited by ghosts, a strange alien looking thing (described as looking like a scrotum with a sad face & glasses drawn on it) is ruling the country, and there's a strange subplot similar to "Lost" where people can't seem to get off the island.

It's mad stuff. :eek:

Deus Ex Machina

Liathroidi Dana wrote: »

Recently I've been reading the book 1984. And its really got me thinking about the world we live in today. Are we really that far apart from a totalitarian society?

For example, the whole recent thing about headshops being made illegal. Now Who's choice is it, to say whether or not people can take these drugs. Why should the government control what I do? It should be my choice, with consequences that I should have to face. Is it not my life to live? The way that I see fit? I personally have no interest in these drugs but its the principle that counts.

The thing that annoys me is that no matter how valid my argument might be, I'll always just be seen as some random prick on the Internet...

Am I wrong in thinking this or what?

You are absolutely right. It astonishes me that people not only don't complain about this kind of thing, but actually get angered in opposition to freedom. It seems to me like a child screaming at his parents to impose a curfew and take away his video games. It is disgusting to me.

molloyjazz

WindSock wrote: »

There's a prequel to 1984? (story book, not year)

Edit: Damn you, brontesaurus.

what did he put except 1984?

starbelgrade

molloyjazz wrote: »

what did he put except 1984?

1978

Liathroidi Dana

Ariadne Ripe Pit wrote: »

Well op, who's going to pay for the healthcare for the people taking these drugs when they end up in hospital? Same people screaming "I can put what I want in my body" will be crying and whinging for free medical care...

You see I'm not saying that, I'm not trying to imagine a perfect society, I'm just sharing something that I've been thinking about. And yes you are right, if everyone was let do exactly what they want then the whole place would be in utter chaos. But that doesn't change the fact that other people shouldn't control other peoples lives.

Jumpy

You live in a country with almost no enforced laws. What are you whinging about?

adox

Wait a minute. Hairdressers are being outlawed???????

El Weirdo

adox wrote: »

Wait a minute. Hairdressers are being outlawed???????

No. Shops that sell heads apparently.

tolosenc

This is doubleplusungood.

Insect Overlord

Shows how talented Orwell really was, if something he wrote 60-odd years ago is still making people paranoid...

longhalloween

Ah jeez theres a big difference between 1984 and ireland. Sure you can do pretty much whatever you want here. It just depends on what estate you live on.

Wanna drink, do drugs, burn out cars and rob ol women and childrens piggy banks? Wanna have 4 kids before youre 18? Wanna go out get hammered get beaten up, buy a screwdriver and stab the guy who hit you cuz ya were feelin up his woman? Sure the gardai wont touch ya cuz the squad cars get stoned and shot at when they enter.


To sum up, if you want to live in a truly egalitarian society move to the estates the people who call Adrian Kennedy live in.

I think Ireland can be a pretty free society

Einhard

Liathroidi Dana wrote: »

Recently I've been reading the book 1984. And its really got me thinking about the world we live in today. Are we really that far apart from a totalitarian society?

For example, the whole recent thing about headshops being made illegal. Now Who's choice is it, to say whether or not people can take these drugs. Why should the government control what I do? It should be my choice, with consequences that I should have to face. Is it not my life to live? The way that I see fit? I personally have no interest in these drugs but its the principle that counts.

The thing that annoys me is that no matter how valid my argument might be, I'll always just be seen as some random prick on the Internet...

Am I wrong in thinking this or what?

Yup, your oppression is truly up there with that of the millions deported to the Siberian gulags, murdered in North Korea for expressing dissent, or imprisoned in Burma for questioning the status quo. :rolleyes:

partyatmygaff

Liathroidi Dana wrote: »

Recently I've been reading the book 1984. And its really got me thinking about the world we live in today. Are we really that far apart from a totalitarian society?

For example, the whole recent thing about headshops being made illegal. Now Who's choice is it, to say whether or not people can take these drugs. Why should the government control what I do? It should be my choice, with consequences that I should have to face. Is it not my life to live? The way that I see fit? I personally have no interest in these drugs but its the principle that counts.

The thing that annoys me is that no matter how valid my argument might be, I'll always just be seen as some random prick on the Internet...

Am I wrong in thinking this or what?

Nope, you're 100% right :pac:

partyatmygaff

Einhard wrote: »

Yup, your oppression is truly up there with that of the millions deported to the Siberian gulags, murdered in North Korea for expressing dissent, or imprisoned in Burma for questioning the status quo. :rolleyes:

But the government is oppressing me by not allowing me to poison myself. How evil of them... :rolleyes:

adox

The fact that you could read 1984 at your leisure should be an answer in itself.

Einhard

partyatmygaff wrote: »

But the government is oppressing me by not allowing me to poison myself. How evil of them... :rolleyes:

Maybe they should make exceptions to that rule for some people...








Joking people!

Liathroidi Dana

Wow my post was really misinterpreted...

You'd swear that I just wrote: "I have the worst life ever because Headshops might be getting shut down."

Once again all I'm sharing is a thought, I'm not wanting to start up a rebellion tomorrow to overthrow the Irish Government.

Absurdum

Liathroidi Dana wrote: »

Wow my post was really misinterpreted...

You'd swear that I just wrote: "I have the worst life ever because Headshops might be getting shut down."

Once again all I'm sharing is a thought, I'm not wanting to start up a rebellion tomorrow to overthrow the Irish Govrenment.

don't get offended bro, I'm with you on this one!

It wouldn't be so bad if this govt weren't so ****ing retarded and useless

Einhard

Liathroidi Dana wrote: »

Once again all I'm sharing is a thought, I'm not wanting to start up a rebellion tomorrow to overthrow the Irish Govrenment.

Awww you're not???



*Packs his things up and goes home*

longhalloween

The reason headshops are closing is not because the govt doesnt want you to have fun. Its because no one knows what drugs go into making them, what effect theyll have on your system and how to treat them if you end up in hospital. Also theyre being sold as incense and other herbal crap and that illegal too.

Also the shops themselves are gettin burned out regularly by pissed of parents or out of pocket drug dealers.