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Stephen King's The Dark Tower

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,649 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    Skerries wrote: »
    I'd say people in LA and New York must get a pain their ring with the disruption from the non-stop filming going on all the time

    Actually very little public filming happens in both cities. It's too expensive.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭GerB40


    The latest pictures fom the set. It looks like Roland and Jake reunite in New York. I don't know how I feel about these changes but they're not necessarily a bad thing...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭cowboyBuilder


    So will this be a bunch of films ?

    Also Matthew MCconnaghey playing the Dark Man I assume ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,042 ✭✭✭✭L'prof


    So will this be a bunch of films ?

    Also Matthew MCconnaghey playing the Dark Man I assume ?

    The man in black, yeah. I was hoping for a tv show, but it definitely warrants multiple movies if it's going down that route!

    I see that Katheryn Winnick from Vikings is on board now too. No mention of who she's playing yet though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭cowboyBuilder


    So has the Stand been delayed then ?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭cowboyBuilder


    I actually stopped reading the DT series - halfway through book II, I was enjoying it , I just got distracted ... I should pick it up again soon !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,917 ✭✭✭nix


    A friend said they're gonna skim over the first two books (probably a voice over intro/credits i predict) and pick up from the third book.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,680 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    So has the Stand been delayed then ?

    Yes, will probably never happen.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,590 ✭✭✭blue note


    nix wrote: »
    A friend said they're gonna skim over the first two books (probably a voice over intro/credits i predict) and pick up from the third book.

    Fcekers! I've only read the first one so far! Better pick up the second I suppose!

    And on the stand, it just has massive potential for a really great trilogy. But if they actually did it low key as opposed to a 100m blockbuster each with battle scenes. With a director like David fincher. Or maybe Danny Boyle!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,844 ✭✭✭py2006


    Massive King fan but for some reason these books never appealed to me. I tried the first one but just couldn't get into it. I think I just prefer King when he is writing about real people in everyday life.

    Having said that, I am sure I will watch this...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭Avatar MIA


    nix wrote: »
    A friend said they're gonna skim over the first two books (probably a voice over intro/credits i predict) and pick up from the third book.

    Shocked, yet not too surprised. The first two books were the best.

    Final straw. Someone give me a heads up when released for TV.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭cowboyBuilder


    Yes, will probably never happen.

    Big pity, because Mattew McConnaghey is a good choice for Randal Flagg.

    edit he's even better :)

    27489864354_2e275beb59_z.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭PirateShampoo


    nix wrote: »
    A friend said they're gonna skim over the first two books (probably a voice over intro/credits i predict) and pick up from the third book.


    Well that scene above with Roland and Jake is from near the end of the second book.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭PirateShampoo


    Avatar MIA wrote: »
    Shocked, yet not too surprised. The first two books were the best.

    Final straw. Someone give me a heads up when released for TV.

    I really enjoyed The Wasteland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,556 ✭✭✭✭Skerries


    py2006 wrote: »
    I just prefer King when he is writing about real people in everyday life.

    yes real people with telekinetic powers killing people or ordinary people being murdered by possessed cars or real clowns coming back as demons ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭Avatar MIA


    Skerries wrote: »
    yes real people with telekinetic powers killing people or ordinary people being murdered by possessed cars or real clowns coming back as demons ;)

    He may have only read one short story - Shawshank Redemption. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,844 ✭✭✭py2006


    Avatar MIA wrote: »
    He may have only read one short story - Shawshank Redemption. ;)

    Hah, I have read most of his work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,844 ✭✭✭py2006


    Skerries wrote: »
    yes real people with telekinetic powers killing people or ordinary people being murdered by possessed cars or real clowns coming back as demons ;)

    Hah, I meant not fantasy or whatever. Small town America with strange things happening to normal folk and all that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,004 ✭✭✭conorhal


    py2006 wrote: »
    Hah, I meant not fantasy or whatever. Small town America with strange things happening to normal folk and all that.

    The best Stephen King adaptions tend to to come from such source material, Stand By Me, The Shawshank Redemption, Misery and (the very underrated) Delores Clayborne.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,844 ✭✭✭py2006


    Avatar MIA wrote: »
    He may have only read one short story - Shawshank Redemption. ;)

    Actually, that isn't a short story... :P


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭Avatar MIA


    py2006 wrote: »
    Actually, that isn't a short story... :P

    Touché (if a little belated)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,515 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    http://www.ew.com/article/2016/07/14/dark-tower-ew-cover-stephen-king

    Idris Elba as Roland and Matthew McConaughey as Randall Flagg on cover


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,815 ✭✭✭Burgo




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,846 ✭✭✭✭Liam McPoyle


    Burgo wrote: »

    They don't feature in The Gunslinger anyway so that's to be expected.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,844 ✭✭✭py2006


    "If [this film] is a hit, there are unlimited plans for sequels and even a companion TV series, exploring all the further dimensions of King’s [Dark Tower] books...
    "The good news: if there’s a sequel, they are guaranteed."

    Source


  • Posts: 21,679 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    After so many false starts it is finally happening.
    I was at first disapointed with how far they seem to have deviated from the books. In my mind I had a tall slim Roland, Viggo Mortensen perhaps or Matthew Mcconaughey.
    But now I think the change is a good thing. Idris looks amazing in the pics and Matthew's subtle menace is the perfect fit for The Man in Black rather than Roland's strong nobilty.

    The books are so epic that I'm not sure how they would have managed to pull off a truer adaptation. If they attempted that and fell wide off the mark it would have been pretty terrible. Whereas this way it's a little bit different to begin with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,042 ✭✭✭✭L'prof


    Genuinely looking forward to this release. Currently finishing off book 6 at the moment. Enjoyed the whole series immensely, just not sure I like the direction that this one has taken. Hopefully the final book smashes it out of the park!


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,906 ✭✭✭✭Rothko


    I like Idris Elba but not sure how he'll do as Roland. I would have liked someone like Jon Hamm for the role.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭GerB40


    Suas11 wrote: »
    I like Idris Elba but not sure how he'll do as Roland. I would have liked someone like Jon Hamm for the role.

    I've made my peace with Idris Elba as Roland. He has the ability to pull of the sullen broodiness of Roland and, like the director said, the movie(s) are set in a sort of alternate universe so his skin colour should stay largely irrelevant. I can't wait to see a scene similar to the scene in Tull, pure chaotic action, that should be a good indicator of how well Elba can tackle Roland's gunslinger side..


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,846 ✭✭✭✭Liam McPoyle


    Companion tv show being developed by Ron Howard.

    http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/ron-howard-is-still-developing-companion-tv-series-for-the-dark-tower-321

    I could see it being a Netflix release or perhaps HBO if they are going down that route.

    17th of February next for a theatrical release which is little over 6 months away.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,846 ✭✭✭✭Liam McPoyle




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 874 ✭✭✭crybaby


    Just finishing Book 3 can't wait to see how they include the classic unsettling King stuff like Charlie The Choo Choo Train into the sequels.

    Excited to see The Gunslinger on the big screen especially Tull and the Cort and Roland scrap


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,435 ✭✭✭weemcd


    crybaby wrote: »
    Just finishing Book 3 can't wait to see how they include the classic unsettling King stuff like Charlie The Choo Choo Train into the sequels.

    Excited to see The Gunslinger on the big screen especially Tull and the Cort and Roland scrap

    You're in for a treat. That and the next book are the series at it's absolute peak for me. Wizard and the Glass is incredible writing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭Avatar MIA


    weemcd wrote: »
    Wizard and the Glass is incredible writing.

    That was where I joined the story, then went back to the first one. Possibly SK's high point.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,846 ✭✭✭✭Liam McPoyle


    In honor of Stephen King’s birthday, the makers of The Dark Tower film are unwrapping their plans for the saga’s companion TV series.

    The movie — starring Idris Elba as the gunslinger Roland Deschain, and Matthew McConaughey as the menacing Man in Black — opens on Feb. 17 and explores the hero and villain’s opposing quests to reach an otherworldly tower that connects their apocalyptic realm with ours.

    Ever since the film project was first proposed, it came packaged with an unusual idea: a spin-off TV show that would fill in the fantasy epic’s prodigious backstory.

    Now, sources at production company MRC and the film’s producer and co-screenwriter, Akiva Goldsman, have revealed to EW exclusive details about what they have planned for that series.

    EVERYTHING’S EVENTUAL
    First off, it’s definitely happening.

    MRC and Sony Pictures, which is releasing the film, have committed not just to financing a pilot but a full run of between 10 and 13 episodes, depending on how the scripts and story arcs develop. The Dark Tower show will begin shooting in 2017 with plans to premiere it in 2018, ideally around the time the film becomes available on cable or streaming services.

    What the producers don’t yet have is a distributor. The darkness of the story rivals that of Game of Thrones, so they will require either a cable or streaming platform (MRC also makes House of Cards for Netflix, so they have a history already.) But MRC is not going to wait for a partner to come aboard before moving forward.

    Elba has signed on to appear as older Roland alongside Tom Taylor, 15, who plays Jake Chambers in the film, a boy from present-day New York who harbors a secret, psychic power and is grappling with visions of the tower and the men (and other creatures) who are trying to reach it.

    That duo will serve as the framing device for the show’s central story, which takes place many years before the events depicted in the film. Since the series will be Roland’s origin story, a younger actor will be cast to play the aspiring gunslinger as a teenager, back before the realm of Mid-World “moved on” into chaos and bloodshed.

    Goldsman will serve as one of the executive producers, along with Jeff Pinkner and Imagine Entertainment’s Ron Howard and Brian Grazer (who inspired McConaughey’s spiky, crow-feathered hair in the movie.) The film’s director, Nikolaj Arcel, and co-writer, Anders Thomas Jensen, are working on the script for the show and will be executive producers as well, but another showrunner will be hired to oversee day-to-day operations.

    McConaughey’s involvement is a possibility, but not locked in. His character, Walter, is a semi-immortal who wields powerful, ancient magic and is a major element of Roland’s origin as a six-shooting knight, but in King’s books this sorcerer often takes on different names and appearances.

    So, the character will be in the show, but he may be inhabiting the shape of another actor.

    NIGHTMARES & DREAMSCAPES
    Back in Roland’s younger years, the Man in Black was known as Marten Broadcloak, an adviser to Roland’s father, Steven, the ruler of Gilead. (Yes, ironically, the father of Roland is… King Steven.) Even back then, Marten was a ruthless manipulator who, in a gambit to destroy young Roland, manuevers the hot-headed boy into prematurely taking his gunslinger trials against instructor Cort Andrus.

    That part of Roland’s tale was partially laid out in King’s original novel, The Gunslinger, and it will form part of the TV series while the bulk of the show will focus on the fourth book in the saga, Wizard and Glass, which told another tale of young Roland and his early tribulations.

    Although written in the middle of the series, Wizard and Glass is primarily a prequel that features Roland and his ka-tet of fate-forged allies, including the boy Jake, listening to the story of the gunslinger’s past while preparing for the next leg of their journey.

    In this framing device for the book, they are camped within reach of a “thinny,” which is a kind of aurora where reality has eroded and people who draw too close can be consumed like it’s a black hole. Roland tells his new friends of his first encounter with such a thing, unspooling a tale about being sent by his father on a mission to the Barony of Mejis, a distant seaside kingdom in the same dimension as his homeland of Gilead.

    As a tribute to King on his 69th anniversary in our world, MRC created this map, overlayed with a quote from the book, which was spoken by Cort to a young Roland.

    dark-tower-tv-image.jpg
    The map demarcates the various towns and landmarks within the territory of Mejis: the capital, Hambry, along the Clean Sea; Coos Hill, home of the witch, Rhea; Citgo, the oil fields that could help fuel an army; Bad Grass, the toxic meadowlands; and Eyebolt Canyon, where a different thinny cries out for victims.

    We won’t spoil the whole story-within-a-story of Wizard and Glass, but in brief, Roland reveals how he fell for the beautiful Susan Delgado, and later tested the faith of his original ka-tet — friends Alain Johns and Cuthbert Allgood. (None of these roles, including the young gunslinger, have been cast yet.)

    “In the movie, Roland is suffering tremendous loss. The most concrete, personal, existential heartbreak a character can have,” Goldsman says. “If the movie chronicles his final reach toward hope again, the TV show is the loss of that hope.”

    While the big-screen film mixes and matches elements of King’s saga (it serves as a a sequel, for those who understand the meaning of that instrument on Elba’s hip, known as the Horn of Eld), Goldsman says The Dark Tower TV series will be a more straightforward adaptation. “This one has much more fidelity to the story as King wrote it,” Goldsman says.

    DIFFERENT SEASONS
    As for what lies beyond … ?

    Just as Arcel’s movie was developed with a door open to other films, a second season of TV is also a possibility if all goes according to plan. Although they will have exhausted King’s original narrative by that point, they could then explore the stories of Marvel’s Dark Tower comics, primarily plotted by Robin Furth, King’s in-house historian for the saga and author of The Dark Tower: The Complete Concordance.

    The comic book stories explore young Roland’s return to Gilead and the later Battle of Jericho Hill, where the fate of the gunslingers – and their world – is decided in brutal fashion.

    In addition to the source material in the comics, King could also choose to offer them tips on where to take the story in a future season, since he has been presiding over the film project from afar, weighing in on scripts and story changes. Or, he may sit back and decide to let them run with it on their own.

    What the King wants, he gets. Especially on his birthday.


    Source.

    Pretty exciting tbh!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭GerB40


    dark-tower-tv-image.jpg




    Source.

    Pretty exciting tbh!

    I hated the idea of a series of movies, You could easily get 50/60 episodes of the books. Either way I cannot wait...


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Salivating at the prospect of Wizard and Glass as a TV show, really was the highest point of the series for me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭GerB40


    Salivating at the prospect of Wizard and Glass as a TV show, really was the highest point of the series for me.

    I remember realising it was mostly a flashback book and thinking 'aww fúck', I hate flashbacks in books because they're often just filler. But it is by far the best book in the series. I'd go one further and say it's King's best writing (judging by the 20 or so Stephen King books I've read).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,435 ✭✭✭weemcd


    I really had hoped they would treat the Wizard and the Glass as a series on its own. It really is superlative. Even if the film wasn't that hot the series is gonna be separate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭PirateShampoo


    I really hope they cast Brendan Gleeson as Cort.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭GerB40


    I really hope they cast Brendan Gleeson as Cort.

    Too similar to the lad he played in Harry Potter. James Cosmo (played Jeor Mormont on Game of Thrones) fits the bill for me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭GerB40


    GerB40 wrote: »
    Too similar to the lad he played in Harry Potter. James Cosmo (played Jeor Mormont on Game of Thrones) fits the bill for me.

    I'm mean look at him, that is Cort..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,340 ✭✭✭nc6000


    Not sure this thread is suitable for someone who has only read the first two books.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,846 ✭✭✭✭Liam McPoyle


    nc6000 wrote: »
    Not sure this thread is suitable for someone who has only read the first two books.

    Its prolly best avoided for those that havnt alright.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,435 ✭✭✭weemcd


    Leaked trailer yesterday looked pretty good lads.

    Don't have the link right now, but it's worth a look.


  • Registered Users Posts: 485 ✭✭Boo Radley


    Here's a working link for the trailer:

    https://vid.me/ExZG
    Seems to be largely from the perspective of Jake, which works.

    Worth pointing out that this is an unfinished trailer with some green-screen in the mix.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,308 ✭✭✭✭.ak


    Boo Radley wrote: »
    Here's a working link for the trailer:

    https://vid.me/ExZG
    Seems to be largely from the perspective of Jake, which works.

    Worth pointing out that this is an unfinished trailer with some green-screen in the mix.

    Hrmmmm. Still not sold on Idris... Tbh aside from his Stringer Bell he hasn't really impressed me. I defo find he's fond of a bit of over-acting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    .ak wrote: »
    Hrmmmm. Still not sold on Idris... Tbh aside from his Stringer Bell he hasn't really impressed me. I defo find he's fond of a bit of over-acting.
    i thought it was just me


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭Avatar MIA


    Boo Radley wrote: »
    Here's a working link for the trailer:

    https://vid.me/ExZG

    Hmmmmm

    Hmmmmm

    Hmmmmm

    I'm not feeling it :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,815 ✭✭✭Burgo


    .ak wrote: »
    Hrmmmm. Still not sold on Idris... Tbh aside from his Stringer Bell he hasn't really impressed me. I defo find he's fond of a bit of over-acting.

    Thought he was quite good as Luther myself.


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