Lindelof: Ending will prompt more questions

20goto10

http://livefeed.hollywoodreporter.com/lost-producer-ending-will-prompt-more-questions.html

I'm wondering if I'll bother seeing it out now. I feel violated.

Jay Ru

just seen that on another site, and its another cop out, i think the Jacob and MIB ep will be my finalle

Anima

I feel a rage seizure coming on....

Lets just hope its not too ambiguous and actually means something.

Mr.Nice Guy

The talk of building sets has me wondering if we are in for a Planet of the Apes style ending. A visual of something perhaps?

Anyways I'm not going to trash them too much for that piece as I don't personally have a problem with an ambiguous ending as long as they have cleared up enough of the key issues.

For example if it's a Twilight Zone style WTF moment at the end then I'm cool with that, providing they have explained the central themes of the show. The final scene shouldn't be fixated on too much imo. I'm more concerned about whether they can tie up the loose ends from several seasons ago.

me-skywalker

Remember they could also be building 'fake' sets to put people off from major spoilers being released.

I dont mind if it ends with a major cliff-hanger once they have left enough evidence behind to support the theorizing that will ensue after the finale that there is sufficent cause to believe in several different theories.

Or the major set could be a giant snow-globe on Gods mantle piece

Irish Guitarist

I think the question I'll be asking will be "why did I waste the last five or six years of my life watching this rubbish".

me-skywalker

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

I think the question I'll be asking will be "why did I waste the last five or six years of my life watching this rubbish".

and then the retort will be... because it kept you hooked. If you were listening to a rubbish band would you continue to listen? or if you were eating a rubbish dinner would you continue to eat it>?

tony1kenobi

I didn't hear anything in that interview that will put me off.I'm still looking forward to the finale!

blue_steel

No problem with an ambiguous ending. In fact I'd be disappointed with anything less. But only if the core mysteries of the show are wrapped up beforehand. What I've always hoped for is 1. An exciting coherent answer being put forward before 2. The rug getting pulled out from under us immeadiately before the final L O S T (ala Season 3 ending).

EKRIUQ

Was the ending not the first scene from season 6, the island under water?

SimpleLogic

Lost is a very difficult show to end due to its associated mystery. I have been trying to think of a way I would like it to end but I cant even decide myself. No matter how it ends there will be unhappy people.

The idea of Lost being like a magic trick appeals to me. I found a bit on wiki about why magicians dont reveal their trick;

The purpose of a magic trick is to amuse and create a feeling of wonderment;I][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed"]citation needed[/URL][/I the audience is generally aware that the magic is performed using trickery, and derives enjoyment from the magician's skill and cunning.I][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed"]citation needed[/URL][/I Traditionally, magicians refuse to reveal the methods behind their tricks to the audience. Reasons for secrecy include the following:
Exposure is claimed to "kill" magic as an artform and transforms it into mere intellectual puzzles and riddles.I][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed"]citation needed[/URL][/I It is argued that once the secret of a trick is revealed to a person, that one can no longer fully enjoy subsequent performances of that magic, as the amazement is missing.I][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed"]citation needed[/URL][/I Sometimes the secret is so simple that the audience feels let down, and feels disappointed it was taken in so easily.[

I think best possible ending would reveal as much of Losts secrets as possible but still keep the sense of mystery. I will judge how good an ending it is by how much I want to watch the whole series again. :rolleyes:

Jay Ru

Good god the writers are being compared to Magicians now. Whats next? Gods. Lost if far from magic because unlike magicians who know where a trick came from, and know how to start it and finish it, the producers and writers of Lost have been pulling **** out of the air as they go along. The only reason Lost is gonna be difficult to wrap up is because they've made such a mess of everything.

Heres the ending id love Carlton, Cuse and Abrams some how manage to get sucked back in time to around the time Jughead was found, somehow the bomb goes off killing em and know of us will have to waste 6 years of our lifes watching a seriously over rated show

SimpleLogic

I think I was fairly clear in my post, that I wasnt comparing the writers to magicians or saying how brilliant they are. Just simply saying why the show would be more difficult to end than others.

The constant same critism of lost/writers gets a bit tiresome. Maybe sometimes people should post in the "The "Whine About Lost" Thread.." instead of starting a new thread . Not talking about this thread but just posting in general....

tok9

Jay Ru do you actually watch Lost? All you seem to do is complain about the show.

What Lindelof said doesn't surprise me at all and to say i'm looking forward to the finale is an understatement.

I've no doubt there will be a lot of people disappointed with the finale (i can guarantee Jay Ru will be one of them) but as long as the characters I've invested in get their story concluded i'll be satisfied.

Raedwald

I think its going to be another one of those endings that you'll either accpet or hate! Some people will be satisfied with partial answers others wont and will want everything revealed about everything that has gone on.

Personally once its clear and understandable and you can finally understand all the plot lines linked together.

Jay Ru

tok9 wrote: »

Jay Ru do you actually watch Lost? All you seem to do is complain about the show.

What Lindelof said doesn't surprise me at all and to say i'm looking forward to the finale is an understatement.

I've no doubt there will be a lot of people disappointed with the finale (i can guarantee Jay Ru will be one of them) but as long as the characters I've invested in get their story concluded i'll be satisfied.

Na never seen one an ep is it any good?

Psychedelic

Why do you watch the show if you hate it so much?

syklops

Jay Ru wrote: »

Na never seen one an ep is it any good?

If this is true then you should be banned from this forum.

Relentleslee

If I don't like the ending of Lost then I might plot a Misery and then I will be happy with it :pac:

tok9

Jay Ru wrote: »

Na never seen one an ep is it any good?

Good enough

NukaCola

syklops wrote: »

If this is true then you should be banned from this forum.

Why?
Also i think its quite obvious that JayRu is being sarcastic...

syklops

BumbleBee123 wrote: »

Why?
Also i think its quite obvious that JayRu is being sarcastic...

I didnt notice the sarcasm apologies if he was being sarcastic.

To answer your question why? Well I think people who have never seen Lost should not be able to comment on it. In the same way I would not go into the Films Forum and say I think Iron Man 2 is a load of Bollo*cks, btw I have not seen it yet, but I heard it was rubbish from my friend Mary Beth.

Jay Ru

Of course i've seen an ep Lost, how else wud i be able to start a thread called "Yet another mistake.......". Now to the person who asked why do i watch if i hate it, first off did i ever say i hated the show? No, far from. I think show the very over rated and not very well thought out but there is somethings i enjoy bout it to, like the mythology and certain characters. This is a discussion forum and if i can't discuss the bad points of the show here whats the point of even haven it in the first place. Also i don't think that if somebody has something negative to say about Lost they shudn't have to do so in in the whine about Lost thread.

I'm certainly not enjoying Lost as much as i used to and i've given up on any worth while answers but i've still invested 6 years in the show and i want to see hows its all resolved. And if i want to point out some mistakes along the way, and if u guys don't like that u can feel free to ignore my posts.

Walking Shadow

Lindelof and co. have been saying for about 2 years now that Lost will have an ending that will be tight and answer all the questions, but to be honest, however Lost ends, there will still be countless loose ends, and unanswered questions. I think thats why the writers have got away with it for so long, in that no matter how many proposterous questions are constantly asked, the fans have a hope that everything will eventually make sense. It won't. We are 13 episodes into season 6, and as Michael Emerson said, the stories are expanding, not contracting. We should have had a good chunk of answers by now, and the final few episodes used mainly to play out the big climax. I expect the big issues like the flashsideways and Jacob thing to be resolved by the end, but as for everything else, I wouldnt hold my breath

tok9

Can i just ask what is this list of questions that you have that you think won't be answered? I'm just curious...

It's fine to criticize Jay Ru but the mistake you mention isn't necessarily a mistake and your first comment on this thread was that this is a cop out. Why do you think that?

blue_steel

tok9 wrote: »

Can i just ask what is this list of questions that you have that you think won't be answered? I'm just curious...

Are you serious? Take your pick:

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Portal:Mysterious

Yitzhak Rabin

tok9 wrote: »

Can i just ask what is this list of questions that you have that you think won't be answered? I'm just curious...

I doubt if even 10% of these will even be addressed, let alone answered. I just makes me wonder, why bother introduce them in the first place. At the time they seem so important.

Why did Desmond tell Charlie he saw a vision of Claire and Aaron getting on a helicopter that could only come true if he died?

What caused the bad luck surrounding Hurley and the numbers?

How and why was Locke cured of his paralysis?

Why did the Monster not attack Locke at first, then later drag him into a hole? That **** makes no sense now, that apparently it was all part of MiB ridiculously convoluted plan.

How did Locke escape the Swan when it imploded?
What the fcuk is the story with Walt? Why was he so important, and then never explained?

Why did Matthew Abaddon send a cultural anthropologist Charlotte on the mission to find the Island?

Why does Faraday have an American accent if he lived in England as a child, attended Oxford University, and both of his parents are English? In fact, why the fcuk is he even called Faraday?

The others in general? I don't feel it was ever adaquately addressed. How did they start, why were they so sure of their purpose when its later revealed that basically, their leader knows sfa, and neither does the mysterious guy who never ages.

Why was Ben's mother appearing to him?

Whats the story with Jacobs ash? Who does it keep in out etc? Because, clearly the MiB was flying around the island since the pilot, but then we're led to believe that at some point, someone moved the ash and thats how he escaped?

Why do the Others have such faith in him as their leader when they have not even seen him? How do they know that he is a "great man" or a "magnificent man", just from Ben's reports?

Was it Jacob who said "Help me" to Locke, and why did he say it? Why didn't Ben hear it?

Why are the Numbers the code for pushing the button, why were they on the medicine? Why were they being broadcast from the island? Why are they bad luck? Why are they the valensetti variables, and at the same time being a seemingly random selection of Jacobs up to 360 candidates?

Whats the story with, "the sickness" What was the point in all that Hocus Pocus shyte in the temple examining Sayid? How did dogen know about it etc.
Whats the story with Hurley's bird?

How does a frozen donkey wheel transport the island? Why is it even frozen? How did Ben know about that stuff, when he seems completely clueless this season?

What are the rules? between MiB and Jacob, and the same goes for the now defunct Ben v Whidmore

Whats the deal with the dagger that Richard, Sayid were given? Why did dogen give it to Sayid when it did nothing to Flocke?

Who was in Jacobs cabin?

Who is MiB's mother?

How does Jacobs lighthouse work? Magic like everything else right?

Who killed the ajira passengers? Why kill them?

Whos the mystery boy? How did smokey take the form of the young altar boy and richards wife when they werent on the island?

That is just a very small sample of questions. If you watched each episode from the start, there would definitely be things that at the time they placed great significance on but are now irrelevant. The reason is, because they hadn't a clue what they were writing about.

blue_steel

But hey they will answer who Adam and Eve are and what the f**king flash-sideways were all about so that's all that matters right

syklops

yekahs wrote: »

I doubt if even 10% of these will even be addressed, let alone answered. I just makes me wonder, why bother introduce them in the first place. At the time they seem so important.......

Sorry for truncating your comment. I could not have written that better myself.

tok9

blue_steel wrote: »

Are you serious? Take your pick:

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Portal:Mysterious

I was asking more specifically what did you want answered.

yekahs wrote: »

I doubt if even 10% of these will even be addressed, let alone answered. I just makes me wonder, why bother introduce them in the first place. At the time they seem so important.

Why did Desmond tell Charlie he saw a vision of Claire and Aaron getting on a helicopter that could only come true if he died?

What caused the bad luck surrounding Hurley and the numbers?

How and why was Locke cured of his paralysis?

Why did the Monster not attack Locke at first, then later drag him into a hole? That **** makes no sense now, that apparently it was all part of MiB ridiculously convoluted plan.

How did Locke escape the Swan when it imploded?
What the fcuk is the story with Walt? Why was he so important, and then never explained?

Why did Matthew Abaddon send a cultural anthropologist Charlotte on the mission to find the Island?

Why does Faraday have an American accent if he lived in England as a child, attended Oxford University, and both of his parents are English? In fact, why the fcuk is he even called Faraday?

The others in general? I don't feel it was ever adaquately addressed. How did they start, why were they so sure of their purpose when its later revealed that basically, their leader knows sfa, and neither does the mysterious guy who never ages.

Why was Ben's mother appearing to him?

Whats the story with Jacobs ash? Who does it keep in out etc? Because, clearly the MiB was flying around the island since the pilot, but then we're led to believe that at some point, someone moved the ash and thats how he escaped?

Why do the Others have such faith in him as their leader when they have not even seen him? How do they know that he is a "great man" or a "magnificent man", just from Ben's reports?

Was it Jacob who said "Help me" to Locke, and why did he say it? Why didn't Ben hear it?

Why are the Numbers the code for pushing the button, why were they on the medicine? Why were they being broadcast from the island? Why are they bad luck? Why are they the valensetti variables, and at the same time being a seemingly random selection of Jacobs up to 360 candidates?

Whats the story with, "the sickness" What was the point in all that Hocus Pocus shyte in the temple examining Sayid? How did dogen know about it etc.
Whats the story with Hurley's bird?

How does a frozen donkey wheel transport the island? Why is it even frozen? How did Ben know about that stuff, when he seems completely clueless this season?

What are the rules? between MiB and Jacob, and the same goes for the now defunct Ben v Whidmore

Whats the deal with the dagger that Richard, Sayid were given? Why did dogen give it to Sayid when it did nothing to Flocke?

Who was in Jacobs cabin?

Who is MiB's mother?

How does Jacobs lighthouse work? Magic like everything else right?

Who killed the ajira passengers? Why kill them?

Whos the mystery boy? How did smokey take the form of the young altar boy and richards wife when they werent on the island?

That is just a very small sample of questions. If you watched each episode from the start, there would definitely be things that at the time they placed great significance on but are now irrelevant. The reason is, because they hadn't a clue what they were writing about.

Fair enough on some of them but some seem a bit unimportant too and i don't think there was ever a stage where some were of great significance but are now irrelevant e.g the hurley bird, Locke escaping the swan, Abbadon sending charlotte, Faraday's accent etc.

Do you genuinely even need the ones I've bolded answered? Even some of the ones i haven't have been partially answered, just checkout Blue_steels helpful link.

Some of them look like they'll be answered too, MIBs mother, the mystery boy, who killed the ajira passengers

blue_steel

Why did the Monster not attack Locke at first, then later drag him into a hole?

I would say that this (just your first example) is a massive question because it goes to the heart of the problems Lost has ran into this season. It highlights the ever growing list of contradictions in character motivation and plot development.
What we have subsequently learned about MIB shows his actions in earlier episodes to be inexplicable imo.

leggo

Darlton should just keep their mouths shut and let people judge it for themselves. Comments like this only open them up to wind anxious fans up. I guarantee if they weren't giving us a running commentary along the way we'd just sit tight and hope they resolve it sufficiently.

Yitzhak Rabin

blue_steel wrote: »

Why did the Monster not attack Locke at first, then later drag him into a hole?

I would say that this (just your first example) is a massive question because it goes to the heart of the problems Lost has ran into this season. It highlights the ever growing list of contradictions in character motivation and plot development.
What we have subsequently learned about MIB shows his actions in earlier episodes to be inexplicable imo.

Thats exactly how I feel. To me its so evidently clear that they had no idea what the monster was back then. I mean MiB clearly acts and thinks like a human, however the moster, was exactly that, an unthinking maniacal monster. It seemed to just be some sort of deranged creature/entity/robot. It seemed like it had no motivations back then. Now we're ask to suspend reality and believe that it was a powerful man/or at least spirit of a man, who just wanted to get off the island, and the best way he came up with was the most convoluted and ridiculous plan I have ever heard of. Convice Locke that he needed to stay on the island, and kill people who tried to get them off(Naomi) and destroy things that could get them off(the sub), then convince him he needs to leave, in the hope that he would die, and that someone else would be convinced to bring the body back, so he could take it over, and convince Ben to kill Jacob, so he could then lead or kill temple people to the plane, and fight widmore in the process, and end up with jack at the bottom of a banyan tree...

Now perhaps the writers will have a savage four episodes that completely puts me back in my box, and makes complete sense of the most complicated plan ever conceived...but based on their track record of creating mysteries basically for the sake of being mysterious, then I doubt it

/rant

One thing I always thought, that if MiB is a black smoke monster. Then perhaps Jacob is a white smoke monster. Maybe the first encounter that locke had with smokie was actually Jacob(hence why Locke said it was a bright light, and that he looked into the eye of the island and it was beautiful.) That would be kind of interesting, and at least go some way to showing that the writers at least knew smokie would have a nemesis back in S1.

me-skywalker

But the phrase... 'Security system' kept getting thrown about too much for them to understand it so they left it open to futher development later on.

qz

leggo wrote: »

Darlton should just keep their mouths shut and let people judge it for themselves. Comments like this only open them up to wind anxious fans up. I guarantee if they weren't giving us a running commentary along the way we'd just sit tight and hope they resolve it sufficiently.

Doubtful, people would be getting freaked that they weren't giving answers :rolleyes:

blue_steel

qz wrote: »

Doubtful, people would be getting freaked that they weren't giving answers :rolleyes:

People want answers in the show not in interviews with the writers.

cooker3

Mysteries >>> answers. That's the fundamental problem. They shouldn't explain everything as it that would be horrible but I'd imagine there is stuff which I feel deserves an explanation that will not get it. Just have to see how much.

syklops

Lindelof should not be giving a running commentary on the show. And he definitely should not have to make some things clearer via interviews. Thats a precedent right there. In another thread I listed a few things that I wanted explained, and a poster replied saying "Oh lindelof/Darlton clarified that in a recent interview". Thats very bad writing if he has to do that. If a movie director had to explain some aspect of plot for a film it would be an epic fail.

As for the various mysteries, there are a few things which have been completely forgotten about. Like the button. Did 'pressing the button' actually do something or was it just a dharma test? What exactly did it do? How did that situation come about?

Other mysteries like the numbers cropping up all the time I can live with. Some mysteries will never be explained, and I can understand that. I dont know how the warp drive works in Star Trek, but despite it being used in every episode, I dont need to know.

Star Lord

syklops wrote: »

As for the various mysteries, there are a few things which have been completely forgotten about. Like the button. Did 'pressing the button' actually do something or was it just a dharma test? What exactly did it do? How did that situation come about?

Wasn't that all answered sufficiently when they DIDN'T press the button at the end of season 2?

jimbling

syklops wrote: »

If a movie director had to explain some aspect of plot for a film it would be an epic fail.

That's just not true at all.

And lost is a different kettle of fish anyway. Part and parcel of lost is the web/nerd aspect. I'm sorry, but if you're a casual watcher of lost and take no interest in finding out more by reading a bit about it then you will miss a hell of a lot.

For example, there are thousands of little nuances in the show. Nods in this episode that point to something in an episode 3 seasons ago. Or little mini mysteries that most people don't notice.
If I didn't read episode threads there would be stuff I miss in every single episode.


Now, I'm not talking about things like Walt that made up a major part of the series. I mean, I'm still hoping that he'll appear in the finale or something (even though my head tells me it's not happening).

So, don't get me wrong... I want the major stuff dealt with in show. But I have no problem if the writers explain, via interview/podcast, why Ben's list in season 2 differs from the Candidate lists in season 6.... or what the Hurley bird was about... or that the "Help me" was MiB and not Jacob (which I assume)... or majority of the little questions that people seem preoccupied with.
If they tried to answer all these little things the show would be absolutely woeful. It would just be full of ****e seasons like we had for the "answers" to the whispers.

My fear is that they don't give us any information after the show at all. I like the idea that we'll be left thinking...hmm, I wonder. But some of the questions must be answered in some form, at some time.

Dempsey

The only surprise is that people were expecting everything to be answered. Revealing mysteries wont satisfy the audience at all imo and I want an ending to Lost that makes the endings to previous season seem predictable.

Why did Desmond tell Charlie he saw a vision of Claire and Aaron getting on a helicopter that could only come true if he died?

If Desmond interfere's with his vision then the future changes. He prevented Charlie's death in the Jungle so the "butterfly effect" of his vision then became defunct. That was explained by Desmond in that episode.

Psychedelic

One thing that annoys me is that there probably aren't any answers to some of the mysteries i.e. the writers don't even know themselves. I could accept not knowing some things if I thought the writers actually knew themselves but just weren't revealing the answers to us.

Teddy Daniels

I really want the numbers explained.
I want to know what the button does.
I really want to know about walt, did he just age too fast or was he never really a big deal?

me-skywalker

My mate jsut start watching it for the 1st time gonna try get it finished before the finale and you should hear all his questions.... its great having someone like that haha..

His first text to me was 'WTF is up with Walt?'

Its interesting having someone just starting to watch it for the first time as their questions will get me thinking about it more now too.

syklops

DamoElDiablo wrote: »

Wasn't that all answered sufficiently when they DIDN'T press the button at the end of season 2?

Not sufficiently no. They didn't press the button so the hatch imploded. Why? What did typing in the numbers do? What caused the ex/implosion? What did the hieroglyphics that appeared on the clock thing all mean? Why did Desmond survive the explosion and his clothes didnt?

Until the above questions are answered, and others too i would not call it sufficiently answered.

That's just not true at all.

Care to elaborate?

And lost is a different kettle of fish anyway. Part and parcel of lost is the web/nerd aspect. I'm sorry, but if you're a casual watcher of lost and take no interest in finding out more by reading a bit about it then you will miss a hell of a lot.

If thats directed at me then its misplaced. I would not call myself a casual watcher. Infact between seasons 1 and 4 I was an avid watcher. I hung out in lost threads and I read theories and took part in discussion and it was fun. But reading other peoples theories and creating my own is one thing but there comes a time when you want the answer to be revealed, and revealed in the story not by the director telling it in an interview.

So, don't get me wrong... I want the major stuff dealt with in show. But I have no problem if the writers explain, via interview/podcast, why Ben's list in season 2 differs from the Candidate lists in season 6.... or what the Hurley bird was about... or that the "Help me" was MiB and not Jacob (which I assume)... or majority of the little questions that people seem preoccupied with.
If they tried to answer all these little things the show would be absolutely woeful. It would just be full of ****e seasons like we had for the "answers" to the whispers.

They dont need to answer everything, and to be honest I think the whispers didnt need to be answered. But ask 100 lost fans what they want explained and the majority would say the numbers. What is the deal with the numbers. Why do they keep cropping up?

As for Walt, it seems pretty clear to me that in Season 2 they had no idea there would be a season 6. They didnt consider the possibility that when walt was 14 in Season 1, he would be 20 in the Season finale, so they conveniently scrapped his storyline.

I'm a little like John when he found out(or thought he found out) that pushing the button did nothing, because I am sticking with lost simply because I dont want to believe that I spent 4 years doing something that won't deliver. John got his explosion. I hope I get mine.

jimbling

syklops wrote: »

Not sufficiently no. They didn't press the button so the hatch imploded. Why? What did typing in the numbers do? What caused the ex/implosion? What did the hieroglyphics that appeared on the clock thing all mean? Why did Desmond survive the explosion and his clothes didnt?

Until the above questions are answered, and others too i would not call it sufficiently answered.

If you expected to get further clarification on any of those sort of questions (ones pretty much already answered, and they are...I'm not going to get into details though) you were sadly mistaken. If you found the answers unsatisfactory then you'll continue to do so.

syklops wrote: »

Care to elaborate?

Sure, there are loads of good movies that require further clarification after a viewer has watched it... in fact, I love a movie that makes me go straight to the internet to find out more about it.

syklops wrote: »

If thats directed at me then its misplaced. I would not call myself a casual watcher. Infact between seasons 1 and 4 I was an avid watcher. I hung out in lost threads and I read theories and took part in discussion and it was fun. But reading other peoples theories and creating my own is one thing but there comes a time when you want the answer to be revealed, and revealed in the story not by the director telling it in an interview.

I don't think it is misplaced at all. Your point is that everything should be answered in the show, you dont want the writers having to explain anything after the series. Well what I'm saying is that is completely impossible. Lost is ridiculously convoluted with tons and tons of loose ends..... and it will end that way too.
I know there will be loads of things unanswered or not dealt with. I would hope that these things will get some sort of clarification after the show. I understand there will always be some mystery and that's to be expected.

syklops wrote: »

They dont need to answer everything, and to be honest I think the whispers didnt need to be answered.

Okay, I'm confused. You don't think everything needs to be answered, but you think that it's unacceptable that a writer has to clarify anything outside the show? So you're just happy that some questions go unanswered in the show, as long as you don't get further clarification from the writers?

Oh, and you don't think the whispers needed to be answered, but you do think the hieroglyphics on the timer for the button should be answered?

syklops wrote: »

But ask 100 lost fans what they want explained and the majority would say the numbers. What is the deal with the numbers. Why do they keep cropping up?

Yes, the numbers are absolutely vital. One of the biggest things in the show. And they have come up very often this season so I'm still hopeful that something will be explained in the show. If not, I'm hopeful we might get further clarification after the show.

Edit: By the way, your question. Why do they keep cropping up?
Well, we kind of know that already dont we? They're the final 6 candidates.... That's why they keep coming up. The question really is How do they keep cropping up?
And that can pretty easily be written off by them being pre-destined, or time travel or some such.
I'm not sure it's going to be much more than that, which will be disappointing all right.

syklops wrote: »

As for Walt, it seems pretty clear to me that in Season 2 they had no idea there would be a season 6. They didnt consider the possibility that when walt was 14 in Season 1, he would be 20 in the Season finale, so they conveniently scrapped his storyline.

Of course they didn't know if there would be a season 6..... that's how television works. It's all about the ratings.

I agree with you that it's pretty bad that they just completely ignored Walt in all this though. I mean, he did appear in the show last year, so you never know....maybe he'll turn up in the two hour finale... I wont hold my breath though



I'm tired, and maybe I've picked you up wrong. If you were only talking about the bigger mysteries then fair enough, I agree. But you did go on about the button in fairness, that's no longer a big mystery...there may be a few small niggling questions, but that could be said for every single mystery in the show.

syklops

jimbling wrote: »

If you expected to get further clarification on any of those sort of questions (ones pretty much already answered, and they are...I'm not going to get into details though) you were sadly mistaken. If you found the answers unsatisfactory then you'll continue to do so.

So tough is what your saying.

Sure, there are loads of good movies that require further clarification after a viewer has watched it... in fact, I love a movie that makes me go straight to the internet to find out more about it.

There are plenty of movies I go to IMDB or somewhere to find more info on or to discuss. I cant think of any which I needed to get a clarification from the director or producer about aspects of the plot. Maybe I am missing something. Whats the movie you liked which you went in search of further clarification for?

I don't think it is misplaced at all. Your point is that everything should be answered in the show, you dont want the writers having to explain anything after the series. Well what I'm saying is that is completely impossible. Lost is ridiculously convoluted with tons and tons of loose ends..... and it will end that way too.
I know there will be loads of things unanswered or not dealt with. I would hope that these things will get some sort of clarification after the show. I understand there will always be some mystery and that's to be expected.

I never said everything should be answered in the show. Mysteries exist in many of the things I watch. I used the analogy of warp drive in Star trek earlier in the thread. No one ever explains exactly how it works, though there are some theories, but despite the fact that it is used regularly, it does not need to be explained.

Lost is ridiculously convoluted with tons and tons of loose ends

I dont mind a convoluted story, but its sheer amount of loose ends I have a problem with, and I dont think I am the only one.

Okay, I'm confused. You don't think everything needs to be answered, but you think that it's unacceptable that a writer has to clarify anything outside the show? So you're just happy that some questions go unanswered in the show, as long as you don't get further clarification from the writers?

Yes I do think its unacceptable that a writer has to clarify something outside of the show. The writer is meant to be a story teller. And the show should end when the story is finished. Am I happy that some questions go unanswered as long as the writers dont give me clarification? What a stupid thing to ask. Do I sound happy?

Oh, and you don't think the whispers needed to be answered, but you do think the hieroglyphics on the timer for the button should be answered?

Well I am sorry, but on an island where there are ghosts, a monster, people with psychic visions, people who can time travel, people who can talk to the dead, and people who never age, I dont think the whispering needed to be at the top of the list of things to be explained. With all the other strange goings on on the island you might expecting some spooky whispers coming from the jungle.

Yes, the numbers are absolutely vital. One of the biggest things in the show. And they have come up very often this season so I'm still hopeful that something will be explained in the show. If not, I'm hopeful we might get further clarification after the show.

Nice to see we agree on something.

I'm tired, and maybe I've picked you up wrong. If you were only talking about the bigger mysteries then fair enough, I agree. But you did go on about the button in fairness, that's no longer a big mystery...there may be a few small niggling questions, but that could be said for every single mystery in the show.

I wouldnt say I went on about the button. I asked 3 questions. As for whether the mystery of the hatch, the button and the hieroglyphics is sufficiently explained, well I suppose thats a matter of opinion.

Star Lord

syklops wrote: »

Not sufficiently no. They didn't press the button so the hatch imploded. Why? What did typing in the numbers do? What caused the ex/implosion? What did the hieroglyphics that appeared on the clock thing all mean? Why did Desmond survive the explosion and his clothes didnt?

Typing in the numbers vented/discharged some of the electromagnetism that was building up before they reached dangerous levels.

Not entering the numbers caused it to reach and exceed that point, thus the hatch imploded because it was built using lots of metal which was pulled in to the centre of the magnetic anomoly (sp?)

The hieroglyphics I'm not certain about other than they were a warning, probably to get the numbers entered promptly.

How Desmond ended up naked in the jungle is anyone's guess, I don't think we'll ever know for certain, but I'm ok with not knowing.

syklops

DamoElDiablo wrote: »

Typing in the numbers vented/discharged some of the electromagnetism that was building up before they reached dangerous levels.

How?

Thats what I mean about not sufficiently explained.

jimbling

DamoElDiablo wrote: »

Typing in the numbers vented/discharged some of the electromagnetism that was building up before they reached dangerous levels.

syklops wrote: »

How?

Thats what I mean about not sufficiently explained.

Skylops, I dont know what to say, you're clearly insane

syklops wrote: »

I never said everything should be answered in the show. Mysteries exist in many of the things I watch. I used the analogy of warp drive in Star trek earlier in the thread. No one ever explains exactly how it works, though there are some theories, but despite the fact that it is used regularly, it does not need to be explained.

How is it the workings of the warp drive is no problem and accepted, but the venting of a build up of electromagnetism by a button a major mystery?

that seems very contradictory to me, they're both very similar in context. Just something you accept about the show.

syklops

Maybe I am insane, but is it not human nature to ask why things are?

How is it the workings of the warp drive is no problem and accepted, but the venting of a build up of electromagnetism by a button a major mystery?

that seems very contradictory to me, they're both very similar in context. Just something you accept about the show.

Well for a start Star Trek is set 500 years into the future. So it is connceivable that they would have knowledge and technology beyond our comprehension.

The flip side of that is the hatch button et al was built in the 1970s, so I think I would(or could) be able to understand how it works.