Lindelof: Ending will prompt more questions

20goto10

http://livefeed.hollywoodreporter.com/lost-producer-ending-will-prompt-more-questions.html

I'm wondering if I'll bother seeing it out now. I feel violated.

Jay Ru

just seen that on another site, and its another cop out, i think the Jacob and MIB ep will be my finalle

Anima

I feel a rage seizure coming on....

Lets just hope its not too ambiguous and actually means something.

Mr.Nice Guy

The talk of building sets has me wondering if we are in for a Planet of the Apes style ending. A visual of something perhaps?

Anyways I'm not going to trash them too much for that piece as I don't personally have a problem with an ambiguous ending as long as they have cleared up enough of the key issues.

For example if it's a Twilight Zone style WTF moment at the end then I'm cool with that, providing they have explained the central themes of the show. The final scene shouldn't be fixated on too much imo. I'm more concerned about whether they can tie up the loose ends from several seasons ago.

me-skywalker

Remember they could also be building 'fake' sets to put people off from major spoilers being released.

I dont mind if it ends with a major cliff-hanger once they have left enough evidence behind to support the theorizing that will ensue after the finale that there is sufficent cause to believe in several different theories.

Or the major set could be a giant snow-globe on Gods mantle piece

Irish Guitarist

I think the question I'll be asking will be "why did I waste the last five or six years of my life watching this rubbish".

me-skywalker

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

I think the question I'll be asking will be "why did I waste the last five or six years of my life watching this rubbish".

and then the retort will be... because it kept you hooked. If you were listening to a rubbish band would you continue to listen? or if you were eating a rubbish dinner would you continue to eat it>?

tony1kenobi

I didn't hear anything in that interview that will put me off.I'm still looking forward to the finale!

blue_steel

No problem with an ambiguous ending. In fact I'd be disappointed with anything less. But only if the core mysteries of the show are wrapped up beforehand. What I've always hoped for is 1. An exciting coherent answer being put forward before 2. The rug getting pulled out from under us immeadiately before the final L O S T (ala Season 3 ending).

EKRIUQ

Was the ending not the first scene from season 6, the island under water?

SimpleLogic

Lost is a very difficult show to end due to its associated mystery. I have been trying to think of a way I would like it to end but I cant even decide myself. No matter how it ends there will be unhappy people.

The idea of Lost being like a magic trick appeals to me. I found a bit on wiki about why magicians dont reveal their trick;

The purpose of a magic trick is to amuse and create a feeling of wonderment;I][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed"]citation needed[/URL][/I the audience is generally aware that the magic is performed using trickery, and derives enjoyment from the magician's skill and cunning.I][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed"]citation needed[/URL][/I Traditionally, magicians refuse to reveal the methods behind their tricks to the audience. Reasons for secrecy include the following:
Exposure is claimed to "kill" magic as an artform and transforms it into mere intellectual puzzles and riddles.I][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed"]citation needed[/URL][/I It is argued that once the secret of a trick is revealed to a person, that one can no longer fully enjoy subsequent performances of that magic, as the amazement is missing.I][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed"]citation needed[/URL][/I Sometimes the secret is so simple that the audience feels let down, and feels disappointed it was taken in so easily.[

I think best possible ending would reveal as much of Losts secrets as possible but still keep the sense of mystery. I will judge how good an ending it is by how much I want to watch the whole series again. :rolleyes:

Jay Ru

Good god the writers are being compared to Magicians now. Whats next? Gods. Lost if far from magic because unlike magicians who know where a trick came from, and know how to start it and finish it, the producers and writers of Lost have been pulling **** out of the air as they go along. The only reason Lost is gonna be difficult to wrap up is because they've made such a mess of everything.

Heres the ending id love Carlton, Cuse and Abrams some how manage to get sucked back in time to around the time Jughead was found, somehow the bomb goes off killing em and know of us will have to waste 6 years of our lifes watching a seriously over rated show

SimpleLogic

I think I was fairly clear in my post, that I wasnt comparing the writers to magicians or saying how brilliant they are. Just simply saying why the show would be more difficult to end than others.

The constant same critism of lost/writers gets a bit tiresome. Maybe sometimes people should post in the "The "Whine About Lost" Thread.." instead of starting a new thread . Not talking about this thread but just posting in general....

tok9

Jay Ru do you actually watch Lost? All you seem to do is complain about the show.

What Lindelof said doesn't surprise me at all and to say i'm looking forward to the finale is an understatement.

I've no doubt there will be a lot of people disappointed with the finale (i can guarantee Jay Ru will be one of them) but as long as the characters I've invested in get their story concluded i'll be satisfied.

Raedwald

I think its going to be another one of those endings that you'll either accpet or hate! Some people will be satisfied with partial answers others wont and will want everything revealed about everything that has gone on.

Personally once its clear and understandable and you can finally understand all the plot lines linked together.

Jay Ru

tok9 wrote: »

Jay Ru do you actually watch Lost? All you seem to do is complain about the show.

What Lindelof said doesn't surprise me at all and to say i'm looking forward to the finale is an understatement.

I've no doubt there will be a lot of people disappointed with the finale (i can guarantee Jay Ru will be one of them) but as long as the characters I've invested in get their story concluded i'll be satisfied.

Na never seen one an ep is it any good?

Psychedelic

Why do you watch the show if you hate it so much?

syklops

Jay Ru wrote: »

Na never seen one an ep is it any good?

If this is true then you should be banned from this forum.

Relentleslee

If I don't like the ending of Lost then I might plot a Misery and then I will be happy with it :pac:

tok9

Jay Ru wrote: »

Na never seen one an ep is it any good?

Good enough

NukaCola

syklops wrote: »

If this is true then you should be banned from this forum.

Why?
Also i think its quite obvious that JayRu is being sarcastic...

syklops

BumbleBee123 wrote: »

Why?
Also i think its quite obvious that JayRu is being sarcastic...

I didnt notice the sarcasm apologies if he was being sarcastic.

To answer your question why? Well I think people who have never seen Lost should not be able to comment on it. In the same way I would not go into the Films Forum and say I think Iron Man 2 is a load of Bollo*cks, btw I have not seen it yet, but I heard it was rubbish from my friend Mary Beth.

Jay Ru

Of course i've seen an ep Lost, how else wud i be able to start a thread called "Yet another mistake.......". Now to the person who asked why do i watch if i hate it, first off did i ever say i hated the show? No, far from. I think show the very over rated and not very well thought out but there is somethings i enjoy bout it to, like the mythology and certain characters. This is a discussion forum and if i can't discuss the bad points of the show here whats the point of even haven it in the first place. Also i don't think that if somebody has something negative to say about Lost they shudn't have to do so in in the whine about Lost thread.

I'm certainly not enjoying Lost as much as i used to and i've given up on any worth while answers but i've still invested 6 years in the show and i want to see hows its all resolved. And if i want to point out some mistakes along the way, and if u guys don't like that u can feel free to ignore my posts.

Walking Shadow

Lindelof and co. have been saying for about 2 years now that Lost will have an ending that will be tight and answer all the questions, but to be honest, however Lost ends, there will still be countless loose ends, and unanswered questions. I think thats why the writers have got away with it for so long, in that no matter how many proposterous questions are constantly asked, the fans have a hope that everything will eventually make sense. It won't. We are 13 episodes into season 6, and as Michael Emerson said, the stories are expanding, not contracting. We should have had a good chunk of answers by now, and the final few episodes used mainly to play out the big climax. I expect the big issues like the flashsideways and Jacob thing to be resolved by the end, but as for everything else, I wouldnt hold my breath

tok9

Can i just ask what is this list of questions that you have that you think won't be answered? I'm just curious...

It's fine to criticize Jay Ru but the mistake you mention isn't necessarily a mistake and your first comment on this thread was that this is a cop out. Why do you think that?

blue_steel

tok9 wrote: »

Can i just ask what is this list of questions that you have that you think won't be answered? I'm just curious...

Are you serious? Take your pick:

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Portal:Mysterious

Yitzhak Rabin

tok9 wrote: »

Can i just ask what is this list of questions that you have that you think won't be answered? I'm just curious...

I doubt if even 10% of these will even be addressed, let alone answered. I just makes me wonder, why bother introduce them in the first place. At the time they seem so important.

Why did Desmond tell Charlie he saw a vision of Claire and Aaron getting on a helicopter that could only come true if he died?

What caused the bad luck surrounding Hurley and the numbers?

How and why was Locke cured of his paralysis?

Why did the Monster not attack Locke at first, then later drag him into a hole? That **** makes no sense now, that apparently it was all part of MiB ridiculously convoluted plan.

How did Locke escape the Swan when it imploded?
What the fcuk is the story with Walt? Why was he so important, and then never explained?

Why did Matthew Abaddon send a cultural anthropologist Charlotte on the mission to find the Island?

Why does Faraday have an American accent if he lived in England as a child, attended Oxford University, and both of his parents are English? In fact, why the fcuk is he even called Faraday?

The others in general? I don't feel it was ever adaquately addressed. How did they start, why were they so sure of their purpose when its later revealed that basically, their leader knows sfa, and neither does the mysterious guy who never ages.

Why was Ben's mother appearing to him?

Whats the story with Jacobs ash? Who does it keep in out etc? Because, clearly the MiB was flying around the island since the pilot, but then we're led to believe that at some point, someone moved the ash and thats how he escaped?

Why do the Others have such faith in him as their leader when they have not even seen him? How do they know that he is a "great man" or a "magnificent man", just from Ben's reports?

Was it Jacob who said "Help me" to Locke, and why did he say it? Why didn't Ben hear it?

Why are the Numbers the code for pushing the button, why were they on the medicine? Why were they being broadcast from the island? Why are they bad luck? Why are they the valensetti variables, and at the same time being a seemingly random selection of Jacobs up to 360 candidates?

Whats the story with, "the sickness" What was the point in all that Hocus Pocus shyte in the temple examining Sayid? How did dogen know about it etc.
Whats the story with Hurley's bird?

How does a frozen donkey wheel transport the island? Why is it even frozen? How did Ben know about that stuff, when he seems completely clueless this season?

What are the rules? between MiB and Jacob, and the same goes for the now defunct Ben v Whidmore

Whats the deal with the dagger that Richard, Sayid were given? Why did dogen give it to Sayid when it did nothing to Flocke?

Who was in Jacobs cabin?

Who is MiB's mother?

How does Jacobs lighthouse work? Magic like everything else right?

Who killed the ajira passengers? Why kill them?

Whos the mystery boy? How did smokey take the form of the young altar boy and richards wife when they werent on the island?

That is just a very small sample of questions. If you watched each episode from the start, there would definitely be things that at the time they placed great significance on but are now irrelevant. The reason is, because they hadn't a clue what they were writing about.

blue_steel

But hey they will answer who Adam and Eve are and what the f**king flash-sideways were all about so that's all that matters right

syklops

yekahs wrote: »

I doubt if even 10% of these will even be addressed, let alone answered. I just makes me wonder, why bother introduce them in the first place. At the time they seem so important.......

Sorry for truncating your comment. I could not have written that better myself.

tok9

blue_steel wrote: »

Are you serious? Take your pick:

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Portal:Mysterious

I was asking more specifically what did you want answered.

yekahs wrote: »

I doubt if even 10% of these will even be addressed, let alone answered. I just makes me wonder, why bother introduce them in the first place. At the time they seem so important.

Why did Desmond tell Charlie he saw a vision of Claire and Aaron getting on a helicopter that could only come true if he died?

What caused the bad luck surrounding Hurley and the numbers?

How and why was Locke cured of his paralysis?

Why did the Monster not attack Locke at first, then later drag him into a hole? That **** makes no sense now, that apparently it was all part of MiB ridiculously convoluted plan.

How did Locke escape the Swan when it imploded?
What the fcuk is the story with Walt? Why was he so important, and then never explained?

Why did Matthew Abaddon send a cultural anthropologist Charlotte on the mission to find the Island?

Why does Faraday have an American accent if he lived in England as a child, attended Oxford University, and both of his parents are English? In fact, why the fcuk is he even called Faraday?

The others in general? I don't feel it was ever adaquately addressed. How did they start, why were they so sure of their purpose when its later revealed that basically, their leader knows sfa, and neither does the mysterious guy who never ages.

Why was Ben's mother appearing to him?

Whats the story with Jacobs ash? Who does it keep in out etc? Because, clearly the MiB was flying around the island since the pilot, but then we're led to believe that at some point, someone moved the ash and thats how he escaped?

Why do the Others have such faith in him as their leader when they have not even seen him? How do they know that he is a "great man" or a "magnificent man", just from Ben's reports?

Was it Jacob who said "Help me" to Locke, and why did he say it? Why didn't Ben hear it?

Why are the Numbers the code for pushing the button, why were they on the medicine? Why were they being broadcast from the island? Why are they bad luck? Why are they the valensetti variables, and at the same time being a seemingly random selection of Jacobs up to 360 candidates?

Whats the story with, "the sickness" What was the point in all that Hocus Pocus shyte in the temple examining Sayid? How did dogen know about it etc.
Whats the story with Hurley's bird?

How does a frozen donkey wheel transport the island? Why is it even frozen? How did Ben know about that stuff, when he seems completely clueless this season?

What are the rules? between MiB and Jacob, and the same goes for the now defunct Ben v Whidmore

Whats the deal with the dagger that Richard, Sayid were given? Why did dogen give it to Sayid when it did nothing to Flocke?

Who was in Jacobs cabin?

Who is MiB's mother?

How does Jacobs lighthouse work? Magic like everything else right?

Who killed the ajira passengers? Why kill them?

Whos the mystery boy? How did smokey take the form of the young altar boy and richards wife when they werent on the island?

That is just a very small sample of questions. If you watched each episode from the start, there would definitely be things that at the time they placed great significance on but are now irrelevant. The reason is, because they hadn't a clue what they were writing about.

Fair enough on some of them but some seem a bit unimportant too and i don't think there was ever a stage where some were of great significance but are now irrelevant e.g the hurley bird, Locke escaping the swan, Abbadon sending charlotte, Faraday's accent etc.

Do you genuinely even need the ones I've bolded answered? Even some of the ones i haven't have been partially answered, just checkout Blue_steels helpful link.

Some of them look like they'll be answered too, MIBs mother, the mystery boy, who killed the ajira passengers

blue_steel

Why did the Monster not attack Locke at first, then later drag him into a hole?

I would say that this (just your first example) is a massive question because it goes to the heart of the problems Lost has ran into this season. It highlights the ever growing list of contradictions in character motivation and plot development.
What we have subsequently learned about MIB shows his actions in earlier episodes to be inexplicable imo.