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Non-whites and the environment can get lost

  • 29-04-2010 1:22pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭


    According to Nick Griffin and the BNP :P
    Source: The Guardian
    The BNP would offer non-white British people £50,000 to leave "overcrowded" Britain and return to the land of their ancestors, the party's leader Nick Griffin said today.

    Griffin said the voluntary programme would be open to around 180,000 people a year who "could go back and help develop their own countries". He said the scheme would be funded from the foreign aid budget and money the government is "wasting at the moment on ridiculous climate change adaptation policies".

    "We're saying that we'd give resettlement grants ... this is voluntary ... we're looking probably at £50,000 per person," he told BBC Radio 4's Today programme.

    Griffin said that the doors would be closed to everyone because Britain was "the most overcrowded country in Europe", but he did give exceptions. He said that Irish people would be allowed in because "as far as we are concerned the Irish are part of Britain and are fully entitled to come here".

    Griffin also gave the example of a Japanese physicist needed to help with a fleet of British-built nuclear power stations to be developed under a BNP government. He claimed that French people who came to the country were unlikely to be targeting "soft-touch Britain".

    "If you are talking about Polish plumbers or Afghan refugees, the doors are going to be shut because Britain is full," the BNP leader said.

    Griffin, who claimed he would rather be about the economy "like the other leaders", but was "very pleased" to talk about immigration, continued: "The door is shut to any significant numbers whatsoever, from anywhere. It's open where it suits Britain and suits the British people. That's fair enough."

    He claimed "British indigenous" people would be in a minority in the country between 2050 and the end of the century.

    Griffin said the BNP would be prepared to tear up international treaties in order to achieve its objectives. Asked what would happen if other countries reciprocated by not allowing British people in, Griffin replied: "The last thing I saw there wasn't a queue of Brits trying to go to Albania or Somalia."

    Parts bolded by myself.

    Well it's never a bad time to bash this toad of a man. Cutting policies on climate change to get non white people out of his country... It's hard to imagine a more backwards mentality.

    So does anyone on here actually agree with him?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    i dont necessarily agree with him but i understand that he has a certain group of voters to appeal to so he's pushing the buttons so to speak. he is technically right about some things but to be honest his policies dont really do anything for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    Ah Britain. Tommy Tiernan summed it up best.

    A Nation that went out and conquered the world and then got upset when these people followed them home.

    Hate clowns make me laugh into my breakfast cereal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,190 ✭✭✭✭IvySlayer


    Griffin is a twat.

    I do agree with him about 'climate change' though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭KingLoser


    The empire that spanned the entire globe.

    And not one country could they find that wanted anything to do with them. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,824 ✭✭✭RoyalMarine


    whats to stop a "non-white" "british" people taking the £50,000, going to their home country, and then returning the next day?

    or going to their home country and then going to another country like ireland etc.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭whadabouchasir


    does anyone even take this Mans policies seriously?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    He'd have my vote anyway.

    At least it'd be interesting then, rather than just corrupt and incompetent :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    Griffin is an assclown, and the knuckle - draggers who support him are as bad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,227 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    whats to stop a "non-white" "british" people taking the £50,000, going to their home country, and then returning the next day?

    or going to their home country and then going to another country like ireland etc.

    He's probably assuming that they would stick out like a sore thumb at the airport.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,178 ✭✭✭Bob the Seducer


    Wonder if this...
    ...he did give exceptions. He said that Irish people would be allowed in because "as far as we are concerned the Irish are part of Britain and are fully entitled to come here

    is just in case his family roots could be traced to this... :pac::pac::pac:

    http://www.griffinproductions.com/hist1.html
    The Irish surname Griffin is the Anglicization of the Old Gaelic surname O'Griobhta... There is no doubt however, that the great majority of Irish Griffins are really O'Griobhtas of Gaelic stock who merely anglicized their name during the seventeenth century.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭aDeener


    have to laugh at the last bolded line, hilarious!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭Sykk


    Why would they take that? They already have state funded 500k houses and 09 reg cars.. 50k is nothing to them.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    A lot of English taxpayers seem to think that Britain's immigration policies has been an economical and cultural disaster.
    They are entitled to hold this view in a democracy..the problem is that certain people want to silence the democratic right of others to voice thier opinion,citing "racism" at the drop of a hat to silence thier opponents.
    Remember racism cuts both ways,there are areas in england such as bradford where you can be attacked on sight for being white or indeed black.
    A friend of mine who's father is kashmiri had to leave Hounslow because of harrasment due to his mother being irish.
    The simple fact is that many people resent being made to feel like underdogs in thier "own country" and people like the BNP are preying on these concerns to further thier political agenda.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    "We're saying that we'd give resettlement grants ... this is voluntary ... we're looking probably at £50,000 per person," he told BBC Radio 4's Today programme.

    That's very generous. I might move to the UK just so I can apply for the resettlement grant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 260 ✭✭fartmaster


    I work with some English people who moved to Ireland some years ago, one of the reasons they moved was because of the ghettoisation of many British towns and cities by Blacks. England is like America with regard to multiculturism but on a smaller scale and I believe is over run with the 'wrong' types people. its not racism what this guy is spouting but trying to stem the flow of mass migration which England hasnt handled well. A lesson for us to Irish to learn before the same happens here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    fartmaster wrote: »
    I work with some English people who moved to Ireland some years ago, one of the reasons they moved was because of the ghettoisation of many British towns and cities by Blacks. England is like America with regard to multiculturism but on a smaller scale and I believe is over run with the 'wrong' types people. its not racism what this guy is spouting but trying to stem the flow of mass migration which England hasnt handled well. A lesson for us to Irish to learn before the same happens here.

    They moved to a new country because they didn't like multiculturalism?:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭Flying Abruptly


    I wonder what Gordon Brown would have to say about this :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 260 ✭✭fartmaster


    dvpower wrote: »
    They moved to a new country because they didn't like multiculturalism?:eek:

    No, they moved because the placed the lived became a GHETTO full of Tu Pac Shakur wannabes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭OctavarIan


    IvySlayer wrote: »
    I do agree with him about 'climate change' though.

    In what respect?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Nick Griffin himself is probably the best tool that his opponents possess. I can't stand him or of his views, but the way he's used by the big boys in British politics to paint a bad picture of anything to do with immigration reform isn't right either.. if no problem existed with immigration in Britain then the BNP wouldn't need to exist, and it certainly wouldn't have as many followers. But the rest of the parties ignore the concerns that people have, so you can blame them for the support that the BNP is gaining


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,067 ✭✭✭Gunmonkey


    So what happens to stop a British born non-white person taking the £50,000 and returning to Britain??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Sykk wrote: »
    Why would they take that? They already have state funded 500k houses and 09 reg cars.. 50k is nothing to them.

    And before the second page too.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,227 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Nick Griffin himself is probably the best tool that his opponents possess. I can't stand him or of his views, but the way he's used by the big boys in British politics to paint a bad picture of anything to do with immigration reform isn't right either.. if no problem existed with immigration in Britain then the BNP wouldn't need to exist, and it certainly wouldn't have as many followers. But the rest of the parties ignore the concerns that people have, so you can blame them for the support that the BNP is gaining

    The reason for him doing so well in winding people up about immigration, is that none of the other parties dare mention immigration. I think that the last mainstream UK politician to bring it up was Enoch Powell, and it pretty much finished his career.


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    dvpower wrote: »
    They moved to a new country because they didn't like multiculturalism?:eek:

    English culture -v- Irish culture, almost the same when you compare toEnglish culture -v- (insert Asian/African country) Culture!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭RMD


    I laugh at the BNP and how ridiculous their policies often are.

    I don't like the the hate and violence they incite though, disgusting stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,199 ✭✭✭twinQuins


    Haha, oh wow! Their immigration page Shows a line of Asian people along with a terrorist at the front. That's the sign of a reasonable approach to the subject.
    Gunmonkey wrote: »
    So what happens to stop a British born non-white person taking the £50,000 and returning to Britain??

    One of their policies is to "Stop all new immigration except for exceptional cases".

    Besides, they're trying to get rid of non-whites, do you really think they'll let anyone who isn't genetically pure back in?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    I'm moving to the UK and changing my name to Aditya Abumali. £50,00 here I come!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 708 ✭✭✭zimovain




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    we should do the same in the north and send all the scots back to britain because they werent invited here in the first place


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,608 ✭✭✭✭sceptre


    fartmaster wrote: »
    I work with some English people who moved to Ireland some years ago, one of the reasons they moved was because of the ghettoisation of many British towns and cities by Blacks.
    Ah, perhaps he was that English chappie I met down in West Cork a few years ago (IIRC, he was married to an aunt of a cousin of a now ex-girlfriend) who told me that he loved the country and was overjoyed that he and his family had moved here.

    When I asked him what he liked most about jolly old Ireland his answer ran along the lines of "the blacks haven't taken over this entire country and ruined it like they have in the UK, you guys would want to be careful here with who you let in". My straight-faced reply went something like "Mmmm, I see we're definitely letting in too many racist darkie-haters".

    I didn't get an invite to his house for tea. And I quite like white tea and all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    we should do the same in the north and send all the scots back to britain because they werent invited here in the first place

    ... as for all of those vikings and normans...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,608 ✭✭✭✭sceptre


    Morkarleth wrote: »
    Haha, oh wow! Their immigration page Shows a line of Asian people along with a terrorist at the front. That's the sign of a reasonable approach to the subject.
    I believe the guys and gals who caused the most damage in the UK through bombing things looked pretty white. Then again, Griffin says that Irish people are pretty cool so it was all in the best of fun.
    dvpower wrote:
    ... as for all of those vikings and normans...
    Indeed. I reckon the Tuatha De Danann would like the Celts to fook off and hand back their country as well. And if the Nemed return or the Fir Bolg decide the Aran islands aren't good enough for them we might all be emigrating to Hull.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,079 ✭✭✭PCros


    sceptre wrote: »
    I believe the guys and gals who caused the most damage in the UK through bombing things looked pretty white. Then again, Griffin says that Irish people are pretty cool so it was all in the best of fun.

    As did Britain did here too...

    I'm sure he doesnt want to go down that road considering the whole of Ireland and the UK have moved on from all that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭dazberry


    When he said non-whites in an environmental context he probably meant the greens, that would make a lot more sense, the greens only add to the tax burden and contribute nothing back.

    D.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭Freddie59


    He's a nutter alright. But as one poster already said, they're attracting increasing numbers. It must be remembered that what attracts 'asylum seekers' to Britain is not the lovely country or people, nut the welfare system which has been left wide open to abuse.

    Kinda like here. And our own aren't shy about it either. As that Granny said to Gordon Brown, people are getting welfare who shouldn't be receiving it in the first instance, and those who need it can't qualify. It's loopers.

    And a large section of the population of Ireland (and the UK) query this. But no-one listens.:(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,608 ✭✭✭✭sceptre


    PCros wrote: »
    As did Britain did here too....
    Don't be knocking our success. We should all be enraged that Griffin thinks Muslims make better terrorists.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    Would have been better if it came from Peter Griffin to be honest...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭AgileMyth


    Why does anything Nick Griffin says even make the news? He has less chance of getting into power there than I do. His 'policies' are and will remain nothing more than the opinions of a racist twat.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭spudmonkey17


    fartmaster wrote: »
    its not racism what this guy is spouting

    From the BBC:
    When asked in 1993 if the BNP was racist, its deputy leader Richard Edmonds said, "We are 100 per cent racist, yes"

    But I'm sure you're right. The leader of a self proclaimed "racist party" has absolutely no racist motives behind this scheme.
    fartmaster wrote: »
    A lesson for us to Irish to learn before the same happens here.

    I love the way Irish people continually forget the fact that we had net emigration from this country for more than a century. We're well known as a country with a history of emigration. We've been getting the f*ck out of this country for years and settling in the US, the UK, and Australia among other countries. It's only since the economic boom that we've all come flooding back.

    But God forbid if anyone from any other country decides to come in here! Oh no, we can't have that!! Your point is as small minded, hypocritical and ignorant as Nick Griffin's and sadly represents the opinions of a vast number of Irish people today.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 355 ✭✭Princess Zelda


    Pay people to leave the country?

    Why that's absurd :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    It's funny ...I know a few white folks in england who would be pretty quiet and not realy hold extreme views but they're not far from the BNP's stance on the cultural and racial shift over there, they do feel a bit like an endangered species in some parts. I think one of the problems is that this topic is one of the great taboo's of our era much like sex was in victorian times.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    AgileMyth wrote: »
    Why does anything Nick Griffin says even make the news? He has less chance of getting into power there than I do. His 'policies' are and will remain nothing more than the opinions of a racist twat.

    0.7% of the votes cast last time round. Alas that means that should the BNP drag their knuckles over that total, we'll have people talking about how it's a 'victory'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31 Shazzy


    dvpower wrote: »
    ... as for all of those vikings and normans...

    i that chase england is going to have no one left


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭aDeener


    Would have been better if it came from Peter Griffin to be honest...

    no, no it wouldnt. at least you can laugh at nick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,201 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    dlofnep wrote: »

    That was aimed at unemployed immigrants from outside the EU. Not really the same as non-white Irish (working or not), is it?

    And it was proposed by Leo Varadkar, not Fine Gael.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 290 ✭✭kuntboy


    Racism is perfectly acceptable in Asia. Japan has very strict immigration laws. A Chinese general said he would be perfectly happy to see Han Chinese economic migrants colonise the world. Try starting a business in some Asian country without locals owning the majority of it. Our open door policy baffles them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    When the irish version of the BNP is formed they'll be getting my vote.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    orourkeda wrote: »
    When the irish version of the BNP is formed they'll be getting my vote.

    Didn't the INP set up recently?


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