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No Show for LIDL again

  • 26-04-2010 7:24am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭


    The soccer kits advertised over the weekend on LIDL weekly special ... called into shop a min ago to pick up three for my kids. None available. When I asked them if they were going on sale today the manager told me they wont be getting them in after all. Trouble with supplier he said.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,942 ✭✭✭Danbo!


    Wow, bargain!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,500 ✭✭✭✭cson


    Consumer Issues
    >


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,200 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Moved to 'Consumer Issues'


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    Not much they can do if they haven't gotten them, its not like they have to compensate you or anything :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,689 ✭✭✭✭TheDriver


    I can see the OPs point though, has happened to me before where they advertise an offer and either they only have 1 or 2 or noever got them in in the first place. Kinda sick of gunning for lidl bargains to be honest, if they are there at lunchtime then it was meant to be


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭alibabba


    Cabaal wrote: »
    Not much they can do if they haven't gotten them, its not like they have to compensate you or anything :)

    Who said I want ot be compensated !
    They advertised these in the national newspapers and in the end they fell thru. Its blant false advertisement. And its not the first time this has happened with LIDL.

    When i spoke to the manager about it, he admitted they knew a good few days ago they werent going to get the kits in, yet they still ran with the ads on their website and their newspaper pull-out.

    Now I'm done ... thants my rant over with for today.
    I feel better now !
    :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    It's not false advertising, they just couldn't get stock. They also can't do anything about the flyers, as these will have been printed and sent to the Newspaper distributor well in advance, long before they knew the stock wouldn't be available.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 513 ✭✭✭Antigone05


    it happens! as said above it would have been too late to pull the advertising, its usually prepped weeks in advance.

    did they put a notice up in the store?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭CamperMan


    it's a con to get you into their store, the amount of times I have seen "bargains" advertised and when i go there, not a thing, it's a joke, I don't shop shop their now! :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭alibabba


    Antigone05 wrote: »
    it happens! as said above it would have been too late to pull the advertising, its usually prepped weeks in advance.

    did they put a notice up in the store?

    The manager was putting up the sign as I was arguing with him.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    CamperMan wrote: »
    it's a con to get you into their store, the amount of times I have seen "bargains" advertised and when i go there, not a thing, it's a joke, I don't shop shop their now! :mad:

    Its not a con but it is the whole point of the bargains


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭CamperMan


    godtabh wrote: »
    Its not a con but it is the whole point of the bargains

    it's a con to get you into the stores, the amount of times I have seen Lidl promoting a special offer maybe some electronic goods, I go down to several stores looking for these items and they are never in the stores, I ask the managers and they say either they sold out or the goods have not arrived in the stores.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,208 ✭✭✭✭aidan_walsh


    either they sold out or the goods have not arrived in the stores.
    Not much they can do on either count.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭alibabba


    Not much they can do on either count.

    YES there is.
    Dont advertise (and con the reader) unless they know they will have stock


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,208 ✭✭✭✭aidan_walsh


    OR read the small print where it will likely say that the offer is subject to stock availability.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭alibabba


    OR read the small print where it will likely say that the offer is subject to stock availability.

    God how did i miss that !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭jpb1974


    God how did i miss that !

    LOL... good one :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 93 ✭✭dogeyknees


    I work in advertising and there is feck all you can do when a supplier lets you down. Those leaflets would need to be printed well in advance (they have to be at the papers at least 3 working days before the insert is run) then the leaflets are probably printed abroad as there is only 1 web printer in Ireland capable of doing that size of a job, so you may add another 2 weeks to the job. All in all it would a minimum of 3 weeks to get from final sign off to print and a lot can happen in 3 weeks. Thats not including the design time so i would think that its circa 4 weeks from creative is done until the leaflet is out to customers.

    Im not sure what you expect them to do - wait until they have the offers and then start on the process of getting them advertised? If they were to do that they would have to hold onto stock for 4 weeks which would cost them a lot as most credit is 30 days and these bargains are based on a quick turnaround. I doubt they work off sale or return so that probably wouldn't affect them, but if they did that's another massive consideration. I do think that as soon as they know something is not running they should have a poster up stating this, but that's as far as they can go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,200 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Pretty cryptic strategy by Lidl alright! :pac:

    kitsb.jpg


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    alibabba wrote: »
    God how did i miss that !

    :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,735 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    jor el wrote: »
    It's not false advertising, they just couldn't get stock. They also can't do anything about the flyers, as these will have been printed and sent to the Newspaper distributor well in advance, long before they knew the stock wouldn't be available.

    I think that is debatable in the case of Lidl.

    When does it move from being just one of those things they couldn't source to being a regular ploy used to get people into stores? I think it goes a little beyond the realms of fair advertising.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭alibabba


    Cabaal wrote: »
    :rolleyes:

    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,089 ✭✭✭✭P. Breathnach


    noodler wrote: »
    I think that is debatable in the case of Lidl.

    When does it move from being just one of those things they couldn't source to being a regular ploy used to get people into stores? I think it goes a little beyond the realms of fair advertising.

    I shop regularly in LIDL. I have never noticed them fail to stock specials in which I have had an interest (although, of course, I don't pay much attention to specials that I am not interested in buying).

    So, if we are going to debate it, I would say that LIDL generally live up to their promises.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,735 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    I shop regularly in LIDL. I have never noticed them fail to stock specials in which I have had an interest (although, of course, I don't pay much attention to specials that I am not interested in buying).

    So, if we are going to debate it, I would say that LIDL generally live up to their promises.

    I don't see why you are happy to have them stock most of what they advertise on the cover of their little weekend leaflets.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,321 ✭✭✭IrishTonyO


    CamperMan wrote: »
    it's a con to get you into the stores, the amount of times I have seen Lidl promoting a special offer maybe some electronic goods, I go down to several stores looking for these items and they are never in the stores, I ask the managers and they say either they sold out or the goods have not arrived in the stores.

    Wow imagine they sell out of bargains!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭alibabba


    Jasus this thread is going downhill fast


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,321 ✭✭✭IrishTonyO


    noodler wrote: »
    I think that is debatable in the case of Lidl.

    When does it move from being just one of those things they couldn't source to being a regular ploy used to get people into stores? I think it goes a little beyond the realms of fair advertising.

    That would be stupid of them to do as it would lose them customers in the long run. And if you go to Lidl and they don't have the bargain you went for, no one is there forcing you buy something else.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    IrishTonyO wrote: »
    Wow imagine they sell out of bargains!

    Its crazy isn't it, who would have thought it...shocking stuff :eek::eek:

    OP's also done a good job of dragging this thread further into the gutter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,089 ✭✭✭✭P. Breathnach


    noodler wrote: »
    I don't see why you are happy to have them stock most of what they advertise on the cover of their little weekend leaflets.

    That's not what I said.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭jpb1974


    OP's also done a good job of dragging this thread further into the gutter

    It's just a rant... and I thought his/her JPG post was quite funny.

    People seem to get a bit wound up about nothing.

    No harm done from where I'm sitting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    alibabba wrote: »
    YES there is.
    Dont advertise (and con the reader) unless they know they will have stock
    They can also put customer quotas on things. In bargain alerts they said lidl had chickens for €2 each, but people said they were sold out and saw auld ones with 10-12 chickens in their trolleys. They could also possibly put up average quantites that will be stocked, so you know if it is even worth the risk of travelling out there. Like at christmas DID or powercity might have 5 plasmas at half price etc, 1 per customer -if they did not advertise the fact there is only 5 of them you would get many pissed off customers, just like empty handed lidl customers.
    dogeyknees wrote: »
    I work in advertising and there is feck all you can do when a supplier lets you down....

    Im not sure what you expect them to do - wait until they have the offers and then start on the process of getting them advertised?
    The OP is questioning if they are deliberately pulling scams, and I presume they might be wondering if they could be reported & investigated by some authority.
    IrishTonyO wrote: »
    And if you go to Lidl and they don't have the bargain you went for, no one is there forcing you buy something else.
    Of course nobody is forcing you, but most people would cut their losses and shop there rather than travel elsewhere and waste more time, petrol & effort, of course some might leave lidl out of spite. It might be the deciding factor in choosing between 2 supermarkets.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭Shelflife


    Lidl and Aldi have a habit of only having a few items in stock of their really good offers, it can give the impression of them offering wonderful value when in effect there was only a few items in each store available.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,735 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    IrishTonyO wrote: »
    That would be stupid of them to do as it would lose them customers in the long run. And if you go to Lidl and they don't have the bargain you went for, no one is there forcing you buy something else.


    Thats a bit naive isn't it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,786 ✭✭✭slimjimmc


    Shelflife wrote: »
    Lidl and Aldi have a habit of only having a few items in stock of their really good offers, it can give the impression of them offering wonderful value when in effect there was only a few items in each store available.
    Well it is wonderful value for those who get out of bed early enough to buy them before stock runs out. It's the same in any retail business e.g. tile shops, clothes shops, furniture shops, even car sales. BTW, all the other main supermarkets also heavily advertise their discounted items to make them look cheaper than the competition, that's business.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    CamperMan wrote: »
    it's a con to get you into their store, the amount of times I have seen "bargains" advertised and when i go there, not a thing, it's a joke, I don't shop shop their now! :mad:

    Yes it's a con.

    They get you in there on the pretence of cheap football kit and you are so angry when you see they have none in stock that you wild and buy up a load of other cheap stuff.

    What a con.

    :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭Shelflife


    slimjimmc wrote: »
    Well it is wonderful value for those who get out of bed early enough to buy them before stock runs out. It's the same in any retail business e.g. tile shops, clothes shops, furniture shops, even car sales. BTW, all the other main supermarkets also heavily advertise their discounted items to make them look cheaper than the competition, that's business.

    Its not business its bad business and in their case its a scam, it doesnt matter how early you get there they dont open till 10 anyway ive heard of queues outside and only 3 or 4 computers inside for sale. its a joke really


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 dcbs


    i'm sorry no offence intended but reading some of these threads some people have no clue what ye are talking about... you should try working iin one of these shops for a day and practice all those bright ideas and see how well they work out and see how things happen eg, advertised stock not coming in and finding out last minute = not the managers fault he/she simply following orders from their boss and so on , as for Lidl it is a discount shop where you do get your goods cheaper so you should allow for some minor problems...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,735 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    dcbs wrote: »
    i'm sorry no offence intended but reading some of these threads some people have no clue what ye are talking about... you should try working iin one of these shops for a day and practice all those bright ideas and see how well they work out and see how things happen eg, advertised stock not coming in and finding out last minute = not the managers fault he/she simply following orders from their boss and so on , as for Lidl it is a discount shop where you do get your goods cheaper so you should allow for some minor problems...


    Sorry, no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    dcbs wrote: »
    i'm sorry no offence intended but reading some of these threads some people have no clue what ye are talking about
    Well no offence but I don't think you (and some other posters) have a clue what the OP was on about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭alibabba


    rubadub wrote: »
    Well no offence but I don't think you (and some other posters) have a clue what the OP was on about.

    I gave up on this a a good few posts back.
    Why dont people read the thread from the start like normal people !

    And while Im at it , the odd mod or two should try making their own arguments rather than just agreeing with other mods for the sake of it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    alibabba wrote: »
    And while Im at it , the odd mod or two should try making their own arguments rather than just agreeing with other mods for the sake of it.

    @alibabba if you have a problem with a post, then please use the Report Post functionality. There is no need to clutter the thread with unhelpful observations that are not relevant to the discussion.

    dudara


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,321 ✭✭✭IrishTonyO


    Was in Lidl today (Nangor Road) and they had 2 stacks of the football thing about 30 or 40 of them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭alibabba


    IrishTonyO wrote: »
    Was in Lidl today (Nangor Road) and they had 2 stacks of the football thing about 30 or 40 of them

    thing ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,321 ✭✭✭IrishTonyO


    alibabba wrote: »
    thing ?

    The football kits that this thread is about, see OP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭alibabba


    IrishTonyO wrote: »
    The football kits that this thread is about, see OP

    Thnaks, I'll check my local on way home from work.


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