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ABC & FOX ban plus sized lingerie model commercial

  • 24-04-2010 10:24PM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭


    The commercial:


    Her reaction:


    How stupid, I mean what message are they sending to people banning such a commercial? ABC refused to show it during/after Dancing With The Stars because it shows "too much skin", now I am sorry but the irony of that is sickening. She is a beautiful woman and it is nice to see them portrayed in the media, shame the broadcasters are too narrow minded.


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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 13,380 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    Typical pathetic American moral puritanism. TBH that country is still in the dark ages in social terms - no problem executing someone with a firing squad but a bit of flesh is deemed obsecne.

    A society with a very warped sense of priorities.:(

    Or it a could be a ploy of actually getting some "controversy" going to get the product and the model noticed. Banning pop songs in the past made them go to No.1.

    Relax, anyone?:cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Nice bazunkas.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    *boing*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭myflipflops


    Dan is a lucky b**tard.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    More cushin for the pushin! :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭Mrmoe


    jaysus, not bad, not bad at all:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Ban the skinny bitches commericals!! THIS is a damn fine woman!

    *wipes drool off keyboard*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    That's a real woman. (not really, she's far too good looking).


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    Duggy747 wrote: »
    *wipes drool off keyboard*

    Are you sure thats all it was?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    Poll added.











    In my pants!:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Stinicker wrote: »
    Are you sure thats all it was?

    That's what I call "it" :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭force majeure


    What a let down, like I always liked to see those add's on the TV, my tired eyes just cant focus on the skinnies. :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,957 ✭✭✭Euro_Kraut


    How could any man stand over the decision to ban that ad??


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    Jaysus my type of woman, mmmmmmmmmmm Jonjo likes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,778 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    JupiterKid wrote: »
    Typical pathetic American moral puritanism. TBH that country is still in the dark ages in social terms - no problem executing someone with a firing squad but a bit of flesh is deemed obsecne.

    A society with a very warped sense of priorities.:(

    Or it a could be a ploy of actually getting some "controversy" going to get the product and the model noticed. Banning pop songs in the past made them go to No.1.

    Relax, anyone?:cool:

    ... and we're not...???

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,473 ✭✭✭✭Super-Rush


    Closes thread.


    I need to..eh.. check the validity of the video.


    Fcukin hell.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    JupiterKid wrote: »
    Typical pathetic American moral puritanism. TBH that country is still in the dark ages in social terms - no problem executing someone with a firing squad but a bit of flesh is deemed obsecne.

    A society with a very warped sense of priorities.:(

    Or it a could be a ploy of actually getting some "controversy" going to get the product and the model noticed. Banning pop songs in the past made them go to No.1.

    Relax, anyone?:cool:

    /Overheal's head explodes


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    WTF?

    She's not plus sized, she's NORMAL!!







    .....and smoking fúcking hot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    WTF?

    She's not plus sized, she's NORMAL!!







    .....and smoking fúcking hot.


    Her jugs are f*cking massive.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 10,093 Mod ✭✭✭✭marco_polo


    Resi12 wrote: »
    The commercial:

    How stupid, I mean what message are they sending to people banning such a commercial? ABC refused to show it during/after Dancing With The Stars because it shows "too much skin", now I am sorry but the irony of that is sickening. She is a beautiful woman and it is nice to see them portrayed in the media, shame the broadcasters are too narrow minded.

    By the fact that you are shocked I take it you have never tried watch an R rated film on a major American TV Network?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    So, which one would you choose?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    *boggle*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    A little late to the punch, OP.
    Remember yesterday, when we wrote about some major TV networks balking over whether or not to air a sexy Lane Bryant lingerie ad? Well, it looks like Fox -- the arbiter of good taste in prime time -- has decided to not be so prim and proper, and will actually air the commercial.
    According to BrandWeek, the spot will run during the April 28 broadcast of American Idol. "Following Lane Bryant's refusal to make requested edits, Fox agreed to air the unedited ad during the last 10 minutes," the site quotes a source as saying.
    Meanwhile, ABC, who Lane Bryant said would only air the ad during the final seconds of Dancing With the Stars, denies the allegations:

    Their statements are not true. The ad was accepted. Lane Bryant was treated absolutely no differently than any advertiser for the same product. We were willing to accommodate them, but they chose to seek publicity instead.”
    http://consumerist.com/2010/04/fox-no-longer-has-anything-against-this-womans-boobs.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    Overheal wrote: »

    Hehehe. I love the title of the article in the link.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭Kasabian


    Duggy747 wrote: »
    So, which one would you choose?


    The girl at the back talking to the guy , she looks dangerous


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,303 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Duggy747 wrote: »
    So, which one would you choose?
    Honestly? One of the two on the right, or maybe lonad's choice :). The subject of the OP would be much bigger than I personally like. And thats grand. Im clearly in the minority.

    Plus its still BS. Look at how the video is cut. If they're "celebrating her curves" than why do they not show her curves? The long shot of her has her wearing a dressing gown type thingy that covers said curves. If she was a victoria secrets model they wouldnt have. The ad is all about her face and tits, everything else is hidden. As I say, the usual BS.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    Wibbs wrote: »
    HThe subject of the OP would be much bigger than I personally like. And thats grand. Im clearly in the minority.
    You need your dick confiscated if you don't find her hot. :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,000 ✭✭✭spinandscribble


    Wibbs wrote: »

    Plus its still BS. Look at how the video is cut. If they're "celebrating her curves" than why do they not show her curves? The long shot of her has her wearing a dressing gown type thingy that covers said curves. If she was a victoria secrets model they wouldnt have. The ad is all about her face and tits, everything else is hidden. As I say, the usual BS.

    I noticed that as well, I kept thinking, how stupid this is that they wouldnt show her ass, which is probably just as nice as the rest of her.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Resi12 wrote: »
    ABC refused to show it during/after Dancing With The Stars because it shows "too much skin".
    "Shows too much skin"? Eh, it's lingerie - that's what lingerie does...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,264 ✭✭✭✭Alicat


    Well that's just depressing for all of us 'normal' girls :( We're not even allowed on the tv now?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Alicat wrote: »
    Well that's just depressing for all of us 'normal' girls :( We're not even allowed on the tv now?
    Isn't it more about too much skin being revealed rather than the woman being considered too fat though?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,957 ✭✭✭Euro_Kraut


    Dudess wrote: »
    Isn't it more about too much skin being revealed rather than the woman being considered too fat though?

    'Too much skin' is a euphemism for 'too big boobies' in this instance.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,303 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    davyjose wrote: »
    You need your dick confiscated if you don't find her hot. :eek:
    Nope I dont. Gorgeous face but figure wise no. Doesnt do it for me. Too big for my scrawny undernourished bony arse. Not pushed on bewbs much beyond a C cup for a start. Plus if she's a size 12, I'm a 6'4" hunky bastard who women cant resist(I'm not, just in case there was any confusion :D). I'd say 16/18 more like. And again bang on. Like I said contrary to the fashion industry's and too many womens take, men like me who like the smaller woman are actually a minority. Way more go for that woman's look. And more go for bigger again than go for smaller IME.
    I noticed that as well, I kept thinking, how stupid this is that they wouldnt show her ass, which is probably just as nice as the rest of her.
    Exactly. Usual "plus size, we love you" BS in play. She's in a very subtle way reinforcing the skinny stereotype, while apparently thinking she's making a difference(she's seems well clued in so I doubt she is TBH). Thats even more insidious IMHO. Like the "normal" women dove ad. The biggest size in that lot was a 12. Tops. I smell publicity stunt TBH.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,264 ✭✭✭✭Alicat


    Dudess wrote: »
    Isn't it more about too much skin being revealed rather than the woman being considered too fat though?

    The "too much skin" thing is BS as far as I'm concerned. She's wearing a coat/dress/shirt thing for half the ad! If they were really concerned about "too much skin", they wouldn't allow half the ads on the telly these days and the girls from DWTS would be made cover up more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭MistyCheese


    A size-16 lady flashing the flesh in an ad? Drool, Fap, Approve
    A size-14/16 lady on Boards? Ew, You're too fat, A drain on society! Disgusting. You should lose weight. You're not healthy. You don't care about yourself.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,540 ✭✭✭Giselle


    Wibbs wrote: »
    I'd say 16/18 more like. And again bang on.

    American size 12 is a size 16 in Irish/British sizing.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,303 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Yep we'll show the bits that most skinny women dont have(bewbs) without surgical help, but cover up the bits that dont "fit".

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭Scram


    Mrmoe wrote: »
    jaysus, not bad, not bad at all:eek:

    this was banned? lol wow americans you can shoot anyone with a gun but show some boob and its all over.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,303 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Giselle wrote: »
    American size 12 is a size 16.
    Doh! sorry yes.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,440 ✭✭✭✭Piste


    I don't get it, where does it say it was banned because she's a plus-sized model? (God I hate that term, fashion's "plus size" is reality's "average" =/)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,957 ✭✭✭Euro_Kraut


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Like I said contrary to the fashion industry's and too many womens taste, men like me who like the smaller woman are actually a minority. Way more go for that woman's look. And more go for bigger again than go for smaller IME.

    I think that is often the issue with models. Models are not meant to be attractive to men. They supposed to are attractive to women. Not sexually, perhaps appealing is a better word.

    When models are involved the target market is nearly always women. Therefore the industry often reflects a womens ideas of what a beautiful women is, rather than a mans.

    It would explain why often models have smallish boobs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Piste wrote: »
    I don't get it, where does it say it was banned because she's a plus-sized model?
    Yeah, but I think others are arguing the "too much skin" excuse is a smokescreen, seeing as there's never such a fuss over slimmer women (but also with big boobs) showing too much skin in ads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,264 ✭✭✭✭Alicat


    Piste wrote: »
    I don't get it, where does it say it was banned because she's a plus-sized model? (God I hate that term, fashion's "plus size" is reality's "average" =/)

    They don't, apparently
    A source at Lane Bryant said: 'The cleavage of the plus-size model, they said, was excessive, and we don't think that's the case.

    Just a cover up for not wanting her on the tv! Wasn't there a Dior ad where Charlize Theron stripped down to her nip, walking away from the camera? No complaints about that as far as I'm aware. There are countless ads on the tv for all sorts of underwear/perfumes, models walking around half-naked and you don't see them banning them.

    Last one I remember them banning was Eva Mendes for CK because they showed a nipple. Maybe a bit of an over-reaction but fair enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,313 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Whether you find her size attractive or not, the point is the ad would be shown during Dancing on Ice, probably more flesh shown during that!

    PS. She is hot.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,957 ✭✭✭Euro_Kraut


    I think I should help inform the debate by letting you know that the model in question (Ashley Graham) is in this photo, third one in from the left.

    Ashley Graham and some friends


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭MistyCheese


    Euro_Kraut wrote: »
    I think I should help inform the debate by letting you know that the model in question (Ashley Graham) is in this photo, third one in from the left.

    Ashley Graham and some friends


    Which one is she?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭Resi12


    Fox agreed to air this but only if it is an edited version and they also gave a date of its airing (28th during American Idol) which is a bit odd for an ad, perhaps they only plan to show it once and no more after that.

    ABC deny they rejected it and claim Lane Bryant are only after publicity but I don't really believe that. Whatever is being said still isn't the full story by all parties involved surely?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,303 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    The brunette you ringed at the top. She has a very pretty face, redolent of Eva Mendes.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭MistyCheese


    Thanks Wibbs, I did think so, but wasn't clear.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,957 ✭✭✭Euro_Kraut


    Thanks Wibbs, I did think so, but wasn't clear.

    Sorry. By 'third one in from the left' I meant 'fourth one in from the left'.

    Obviously.


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